Listen To PB And Grace Industrial Song By Spivkurl At Looperman.com

He MUST be the "Moondog" who is referred to on the famous Janis Joplin live album, that I have listened to religiously over the years.

She even said that he "dressed like a viking" on the record we have! The song was credited to him, way beck then, and my wife and I have grown up with this credit.

It's weird living where we do right now, as out city still has characters like this... we've been interacting with the same people since we moved in together in 1996. "Crazy Greg" (Who is no crazier than myself)... "Deaf Ricky" who sees more than I've ever seen. Kevin who they've been trying to catch stealing bikes since '94... appar3ently we've become a fixture now. SAD.

I'm the guy, who just today carried a cottonwood log home for several miles. We scare the scaries.

Thank you for reminding me of your comment and listen. "We love you"

My friend Silverman, you have once again made my day with your words! I had no idea that so many regular users around here had not yet heard this track, so I'm happy that I re-featured it. For some reason, I assumed it was mostly due to the adult content.

I'm thinking that you are the only person who has identified McKenna in this one, and that also makes me happy...that someone still knows. Recently learned that Dennis McKenna is apparently stationed at the U of Minnesota very near here... wonder if I could track him down? "Chaos is what we've lost touch with" is something which is beginning to make sense, it seems like it refers to the extreme obsession that humans have developed with controlling all aspects of life. I have my moments of this obsession as well, however where natural growth/development is concerned, I try to take a more balanced approach. There is already far too much control, and life is already too convenient.

Your compliments are not taken lightly, and you give me renewed inspiration in these all too difficult times. I also realise that you have been struggling as well, and simply seeing you here is important to me.

Being driven, while it does usually help in creative matters, also gets me into trouble and stretches me beyond my capabilities. I have to switch into a lower gear or reverse, simply to protect myself. I'm getting better at it, which is why The Dept of Ag is invetigating public schools for me instead of me sitting in jail, after Wednesdays travesties.

In you closing comments, I read into it possibly differently from the intentions. It seems to me that men are machines, and lions are mice these days. Maybe I'll be a mechanical man-mouse with incisors some day.

Thanks for listening and your support my friend!

Thank you for listening to this!

Front242 is always a group which I have mostly ignored... I even have a cassette which I found and still has the cellophane still on it after a couple of years.

I will admit to listening to large amounts of early punk back in the early ninenties... (my browser doesn't know the word ninenties, how sad is that?) ... any way, I loved the Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Damned, Adam and the Ants, Rolling Stones, and all that shits back then... Still do.

People who I've known for years, they look at my pants and think I don't care, but really I just have some one who loves me. I DO CARE, and that is everything in each of my days, whether I like it or not. The best I can do is ignore the things I care about.

I was so angry when I made these vocals, that I am lucky to not have a felony and still be locked up at this point. It is all that I wanted.

Life is gritty, and there isn't shit we can do about it. So survivalism it is! Thank you!

Hello, my old friend. Thank you for taking a listen to something old while I get my SH together!

In a visual way... this sort of thing makes me go down into a fibonacci spiral, losing myself in the days observations. I will do my best.

In a visual way... I don't know if these "sights" are past, present or future in relation to this song... ...

Hello Orlando, thank you for taking a listen to this one, which is getting older by the minute!

I've been re-featuring quite a few tracks lately for some reason. I actually have several new songs created. I think that the horribleness of life has become so overwhelming that I have lost my will to do things... it all comes down to simple survival, defence, and feeding my family. I know that at some point, this studio oriented phase in my music will be over... I know I will have to be on the run, and that does not lend itself to building complex instruments or having room to use them.

I'm very happy that you enjoyed this song, as it still is one of my personal favorites, especially within the genre. My anger knew no bounds at that time, as it seems to lately. I am just learning to control it for fear of jail time, or at least to direct it inwards.

I appreciate your continued support! Thank you!

Bleep, your comments are always a pleasure to read, and you have made me happy to have revisited a few older tracks as featured! Thank you for that!

I would definitely agree that Germany has a different feel to gothic forms, as well as industrial in general, from what I think of most commonly. Much of my gothic influence comes from UK groups, which border on punk or gypsy models. My Industrial ideas definitely is more influenced by North American groups though, such as Skinny Puppy/Ohgr, Nine Inch Nails, and even some rap such as Saul Williams and Sims. It's a weird group of influences I suppose, but it really is name dropping... songs like this are mostly just pure expression of momentary anger or despair for me.

If I had not handled yesterday's multi-department sting operation better yesterday, I would probably be angry enough to make a new song in this vein... but I also would have been in jail. So, good for me!

I really appreciate your words and listening!

Hey there friend!

This genre is, to my thoughts, industrial along the lines of Skinny Puppy or Ohgr, or secondarily KMFDM or Atari Teenage Riot. The song stemmed from a large amount of anger and frustration... luckily it was created more than two years ago!

I must have handled my anger and frustration acceptably well, since the involved parties are not six feet under, and I have still not spent time in jail or prison! Possibly I, and the others involved, are both just lucky... maybe we are all of partially Irish descent? HAW HAW

I really appreciate you continued support and listening! You, and those like you, make it all worthwhile! Thanks! Have a good day!

Hey Ocean, thank you for stopping by to listen and leave your words! That's very interesting that you mention 1984. I was never a huge fan of the book, aside from it's pop culture status... for example "big brother is watching you." That sort of thing. But looking back, I feel that the novel is much more relevant now than it was in earlier times. I really appreciate you giving some feedback!

The line is "It's all illusion, it's all hallucination; that's what experience is." I guess your interpretation of the high hat sound as being indicative of "industrial music" is pretty accurate. To me, white noise, and other types of random or semi-random noise are some of the most common and ignored sounds in nature. For example, take a field recording almost anywhere, chop a section of it, then stretch it down to the length of a simple waveform... play this in an endless loop, and I guarantee it will sound pretty much like random noise. Not to mention the "static" that runs through my brain on a regular basis or the deceptively "silent" background of the electrical grid which connects us all. The wind which brings the rain, and the thunder. Sounds *are* just sounds, they only become something they are not when interpreted by nerves, and ultimately a brain. Thank you again!

Hey there, thank you for the replies! I understand where you are coming from regarding the "acoustic" and "electronic" sorts of music. I guess my thinking is a bit different. It is hard for me to think of any sound as anything other than a collection of vibrations (wave forms) of differing amplitudes, shapes and frequencies. For that reason, I have little problem using whatever gives me the type of sound I'm looking for; electronic, acoustic, or combinations (electroacoustic). I fully agree that a DAW is an instrument unto itself. I just got a MIDI to CV converter the other day, so now I can play my analog stuff from any of my midi keyboards, as well as sequencing full parts from the DAW. This will change things for me, as up until now it's been mostly sampling one shots and using them in the DAW as an instrument, or sampling longer loops and finding a key that works with them then building a song around that. Decadent is an appropriate word for what I've been doing lately. Happy that you can listen beyond musical styles, and appreciate it for what it is! Thanks!

Hey Wayne, thank you for taking a few listens to this track! I'm happy that you were entertained by this! I've been changing how I do things lately, and I expect more changes forthcoming. It's good to have along for the ride. Been trying to ignore "musical tastes and likes" for the moment, and have been more concerned with expressing and challenging myself. I'm finding it really difficult to enjoy virtual synthesizers anymore, and it shows in a song like this. I realized this even more when I got my MIDI to CV converter a couple days ago and was tuning it up to my modular. Playing a simple sin wave simultaneously on a software synth and the modular with my midi controller, it was just sad the difference. The lack of character in the software was just disappointing. I'm sure you know what I mean there. I understand not being into a whole album like this of course. I don't think that I have a target audience anymore, either someone likes a song or not despite their usual listening preferences, and if someone actually listens to my albums, then all the better... that really is my ultimate goal is to release full albums to be heard in their entirety. I really appreciate your feedback!

For some reason, I thought that I had replied to this comment already. I must have been just thinking about your words a lot since you posted this. I'm actually pretty pleased that you found it somewhat pop, as I don't think most people would agree. I think mostly I've just been getting a more trained ear, as well as trying new things each time I bring a song to completion. I really appreciate harsh sounds in a clear sounding final product. Thank you so much for the feedback!

ha ha, yeah, you got the message that's for sure! Kind of though about moshing when making this one (or slam dancing if that's your preference). Was picturing a giant dirty circle pit. Thanks for the comment! Smash the system while you're at it!

I guess I'm not sure what is meant by "This should sound like noise". In the end, it ended up sounding exactly like I wanted it too. Literal "noise" is incorporated into so many genres now, including pop music, and people instantly accept it as an instrument. Don't know why this song would be any different. I appreciate the compliment though. I only use industrial as a genre because it is the only place this will fit. When it's sounds that people don't usually hear, you are limited in genres. Thank you for the interesting comment!

Hey there Mr Being! Good to help you dance for a while! Sorry about the mania effect, I guess I channelled mine into this song a bit. The lyrics are in the "song lyrics" tab right below the song description here. The ones that are not typed in are a mystery even to me! Hope you are well! Thank you for the comment!

Hello, and thank you for checking out this track! You are right, the high hats are stronger than many of my tracks, but in relation to the balance of high and low frequencies, they are fairly low in the mix. You can kind of tell at the beginning when there is only high hats, then everything else comes in, and it's all much louder and focused on different frequencies. It was quite a strain on the ears getting the mix and master how I wanted, so I understand. This is quite different from the things that you write, so I wouldn't expect you to listen to it much. I appreciate you listening regardless of the pain it may have caused!

Hey there. Checked out that video, and while I appreciate the comparison, I don't really think it sounds much like this song. I did enjoy hearing/watching it, and played it for my wife last night. Looks like it would've been a fun video shoot to be at! Thanks for the comment!

Hey, thanks for the feedback! I guess I didn't realize LivingInSilence was building instruments, I'll have to look into that! Happy that you enjoyed listening to this. Appreciate it!

Hey, thank you for the follow up comment! I'm guessing that the similarities in the waveform between SN and I is mostly due to the mastering, and secondly to having instruments in most frequency ranges present in the mix. Beyond that I can't say why it would be, as they are different sorts of music altogether. The "ultimate sound" comment is quite a nice one. I think that it would be far more ultimate if I could do all of this in a live/one take sort of setting, as opposed to using a DAW to compose and mix (would need about eight hands!!!)... beyond that, ultimate could be taken to another level if all of my built creations could be sustainably powered and not reliant upon batteries or mains power. There will come a time when these things are not an option, and I hope to start taking that into consideration when building things. I don't expect anyone to connect with these lyrics, as no one has lived my life... on top of that, this is really like three songs in one, at least two. Not sure about the acoustic/electronic battle reference though, or the "Zank" thing, care to elaborate? I appreciate you stopping by again!

Hey, thank you! I appreciate the comment!

Hey, no problem, I appreciate the feedback and that you listened! By "static's", do you mean StaticNomad? Or do you mean that it looks like static (noise)? Just curious, because that would mean two totally different things... ha ha! Thanks for the fave!

Hey joe, thank you for the kind words and the listen! I'm honored that this song reminded you of one of your favorite albums! I have listened to some of the link which you sent me, and I can understand the comparison a bit. I have a special place in my heart for German culture and quality craftsmanship, though I know little about the music. Seems like the unusual synthesis and sampling, plus pretty raw vocals must be some of the similarities. In general, my songs are meant to be heard in an album setting, but I like to make them stand alone in most cases. I wish I had that album on LP! Have some obscure stuff, but nothing like that. Thank you for the link! I have bookmarked it for further consideration! Appreciate the comment my friend!

Hey there! Thank you for being the first to leave a comment on this one! Put a lot of effort into this one, so it's good to hear that it has entertainment value. I was doing a lot of 8 hour days to get this one how I wanted it, sometimes starting at 3 AM. Appreciate it!