Description : Here is a new Spivkurl track for all of you to check out! My thought process interprets this as industrial gothic, but it's open to external interpretation. This song's sounds were almost entirely sampled from equipment which I hand soldered, whether it be synthesizer builds or circuit bending. The lead vocals were recorded with the new microphone which I built in the past few days, and I'm happy with the way it interacts with my voice. In fact the only piece of gear used that I didn't build was the microphone for the hook vocals... and they are meant to be unintelligible, as they were recorded spontaneously with a patch I called a Spivocoder (on my modular synth). Uptempo and aggressive, it's definitely my sort of industrial. Please give me your opinions if you have the time! Thanks!

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  1. Oceanically
    Oceanically on Sun 22nd Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    this was such a fascinating listen. Somehow, it reminded me of the novel, 1984! Instant like :)
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey Ocean, thank you for stopping by to listen and leave your words! That's very interesting that you mention 1984. I was never a huge fan of the book, aside from it's pop culture status... for example "big brother is watching you." That sort of thing. But looking back, I feel that the novel is much more relevant now than it was in earlier times. I really appreciate you giving some feedback!
  2. promenade2239
    promenade2239 on Sat 21st Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    haha just listening again to the first 14 seconds of this one (it's all solution, it's all halucination?) there's a kind of a hihat sound but with added harmonics at parts (very high, barely listenable short notes). it's really hard to come across the sound like this in the nature. so it helps me understand now what 'industrial' label means.
    then I can hear processed rhythmic drum noise. filtered and looped. that's all very creative but still I can't find any reference point to say something interesting. that's 'just sounds' for me. some of them seem still operate as the 'basslines' or as 'hihats', anything goes. overall it doesn't challenge my 'musical taste' at all, do not worry. 'that's what experience is'!
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl The line is "It's all illusion, it's all hallucination; that's what experience is." I guess your interpretation of the high hat sound as being indicative of "industrial music" is pretty accurate. To me, white noise, and other types of random or semi-random noise are some of the most common and ignored sounds in nature. For example, take a field recording almost anywhere, chop a section of it, then stretch it down to the length of a simple waveform... play this in an endless loop, and I guarantee it will sound pretty much like random noise. Not to mention the "static" that runs through my brain on a regular basis or the deceptively "silent" background of the electrical grid which connects us all. The wind which brings the rain, and the thunder. Sounds *are* just sounds, they only become something they are not when interpreted by nerves, and ultimately a brain. Thank you again!
  3. promenade2239
    promenade2239 on Fri 20th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    Thanks a lot for the reply and sorry for cryptic type of commenting btw. 'Zank' is a refference to ZankFrappa and I actually meant the dark side of one's looperman personality (Zank is not me btw). Basically I come from very 'acoustic' type of music - that may be a reason why I see all so called 'edm' or 'electronic' sequenced music in general as something different. I remember my start of 'laptop music making' journey about 2012: a friend of mine sent me his vocals and guitars recorded using shitty dictaphone and my mixing/mastering skills were very poor at a time. I was using free version of daw called Mulab with only 4 tracks per song and many other limitations for quite a long time. At some point there must be some a kind of that limited field/grid workspace anyway...
    You're right, there's some difference between strictly real-time improvised/performed instrumental music and 'programmed' but you can also think about the PC and daw as an another, more advanced musical instrument/sequencer. I saw some older live performances by JMJarre the other day and that 'live' human factor is definitely lost there haha.

    Listening again I find your song very 'decadent' and experimental eventhough you respect the rules of the 'traditional' 4 bar song structure etc.. You start from very first level of creating the 'very sound' which I find really inspiring but also it makes your music sound maybe too 'original' and hermetic. That's very fine - I listen to it as a pure creation not through the filter of 'musical styles' anyway!
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey there, thank you for the replies! I understand where you are coming from regarding the "acoustic" and "electronic" sorts of music. I guess my thinking is a bit different. It is hard for me to think of any sound as anything other than a collection of vibrations (wave forms) of differing amplitudes, shapes and frequencies. For that reason, I have little problem using whatever gives me the type of sound I'm looking for; electronic, acoustic, or combinations (electroacoustic). I fully agree that a DAW is an instrument unto itself. I just got a MIDI to CV converter the other day, so now I can play my analog stuff from any of my midi keyboards, as well as sequencing full parts from the DAW. This will change things for me, as up until now it's been mostly sampling one shots and using them in the DAW as an instrument, or sampling longer loops and finding a key that works with them then building a song around that. Decadent is an appropriate word for what I've been doing lately. Happy that you can listen beyond musical styles, and appreciate it for what it is! Thanks!
  4. theHumps
    theHumps on Wed 18th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    Firstly I must give you props for putting the instruments together then applying them to your musical creations. That in itself is very cool. Plus you always give us something to challenge our musical tastes and likes by literally pushing the right buttons and taking us on a very cool musical journey.

    Although electronic music isn't my favorite, I was compelled to give this a few listens and let it all soak in. I must say I was totally entertained. I don't think I could listen to an entire album of this but it sure makes the day a whole lot more interesting. Thanks for stepping outside the box, as usual!

    Wayne
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey Wayne, thank you for taking a few listens to this track! I'm happy that you were entertained by this! I've been changing how I do things lately, and I expect more changes forthcoming. It's good to have along for the ride. Been trying to ignore "musical tastes and likes" for the moment, and have been more concerned with expressing and challenging myself. I'm finding it really difficult to enjoy virtual synthesizers anymore, and it shows in a song like this. I realized this even more when I got my MIDI to CV converter a couple days ago and was tuning it up to my modular. Playing a simple sin wave simultaneously on a software synth and the modular with my midi controller, it was just sad the difference. The lack of character in the software was just disappointing. I'm sure you know what I mean there. I understand not being into a whole album like this of course. I don't think that I have a target audience anymore, either someone likes a song or not despite their usual listening preferences, and if someone actually listens to my albums, then all the better... that really is my ultimate goal is to release full albums to be heard in their entirety. I really appreciate your feedback!
  5. mrwolf14
    mrwolf14 on Mon 16th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    Hi Spiv,
    So good to hear something "made from you" ... and this time in all senses!
    It is funny how "pop" is this song: I think this is one of your "easiest" tracks, it is really musical and "pleasant" while reading your description (and knowing you) I was expecting something more "extreme".
    Of course, the sounds you used can be defined "harsh" but once put in your mix they get very enjoyable.
    Liked it.
    Liked it a lot.
    Ciao, Domenico
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl For some reason, I thought that I had replied to this comment already. I must have been just thinking about your words a lot since you posted this. I'm actually pretty pleased that you found it somewhat pop, as I don't think most people would agree. I think mostly I've just been getting a more trained ear, as well as trying new things each time I bring a song to completion. I really appreciate harsh sounds in a clear sounding final product. Thank you so much for the feedback!
  6. GregVincey
    GregVincey on Mon 16th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    Rock in your face. Yea! I feel like smashing stuff. uhhhh Rock yea.
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl ha ha, yeah, you got the message that's for sure! Kind of though about moshing when making this one (or slam dancing if that's your preference). Was picturing a giant dirty circle pit. Thanks for the comment! Smash the system while you're at it!
  7. RealProblemShuckers
    RealProblemShuckers on Fri 13th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    This should sound like noise; but oddly it works!

    Thats what you do quite well- take a genre and put your own style on to it.

    Well done!
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl I guess I'm not sure what is meant by "This should sound like noise". In the end, it ended up sounding exactly like I wanted it too. Literal "noise" is incorporated into so many genres now, including pop music, and people instantly accept it as an instrument. Don't know why this song would be any different. I appreciate the compliment though. I only use industrial as a genre because it is the only place this will fit. When it's sounds that people don't usually hear, you are limited in genres. Thank you for the interesting comment!
  8. KometBeing
    KometBeing on Fri 13th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    it is all illusion... when we uncover this fact is when the fun begins...
    very dance-able... yes I did dance to it!
    need the lyrics desperately!
    it triggered my mania later & I had to take a chill pill & a few tokes
    thanks for this fun music
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey there Mr Being! Good to help you dance for a while! Sorry about the mania effect, I guess I channelled mine into this song a bit. The lyrics are in the "song lyrics" tab right below the song description here. The ones that are not typed in are a mystery even to me! Hope you are well! Thank you for the comment!
  9. soundhound
    soundhound on Thu 12th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    This is way more top heavy then my hihat...LOL
    You just pulling my leg or something, with any volume
    this will send you to the Ear Doctor...Just joking...haha...
    Truly with all the distorted harmonics, it's really not
    something I would play in my car or at home...It's just
    not where my head is, or has it ever been with this style...
    Honestly...But you've put it together in a cool way, it's not
    easy to organize such confusion into something Musical...
    It's your thing man, do it like you like it...

    Peace...TG.
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hello, and thank you for checking out this track! You are right, the high hats are stronger than many of my tracks, but in relation to the balance of high and low frequencies, they are fairly low in the mix. You can kind of tell at the beginning when there is only high hats, then everything else comes in, and it's all much louder and focused on different frequencies. It was quite a strain on the ears getting the mix and master how I wanted, so I understand. This is quite different from the things that you write, so I wouldn't expect you to listen to it much. I appreciate you listening regardless of the pain it may have caused!
  10. ZankFrappa
    ZankFrappa on Thu 12th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    I disagree on joecramer. This sounds like "Der Plan"! Shame on you, joe!
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey there. Checked out that video, and while I appreciate the comparison, I don't really think it sounds much like this song. I did enjoy hearing/watching it, and played it for my wife last night. Looks like it would've been a fun video shoot to be at! Thanks for the comment!
  11. Spd2
    Spd2 on Thu 12th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    Wassup Spiv, good to hear another creative and original track bro! For some odd reason I thought I heard it before but I could be wrong. Your music is always an enjoyable experience, and everything you bring to the table is fresh to my ears.I have to hit up your blog sometime, just haven't had much time on the internet lately because of work and family commitment. THanks for sharing Spiv, fav'd.

    Pete
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey friend, how are you? Thank you for taking a listen to this one, and giving a fave! Definitely haven't heard this one before, as it was done in the days preceeding the upload, and the sounds are all new. I'm glad you had fun listening! I understand work commitments and stuff, so dont' worry! Take care.
  12. 15ludwicke
    15ludwicke on Thu 12th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    Loved this spivkurl,
    LivingInSilence would love this too I'm sure because he loves making his own instruments and you do a fantastic job of that here. Thanks for the inspiration and keep up the good work!

    Rico L.
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey, thanks for the feedback! I guess I didn't realize LivingInSilence was building instruments, I'll have to look into that! Happy that you enjoyed listening to this. Appreciate it!
  13. promenade2239
    promenade2239 on Wed 11th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    yes, I noticed that the waveform of your track is so similar to the actual StaticNomad's chillout stuff. I just read very closely your comments on his track and tried to figured out the very essence... I know it's very crazy. haha. It is far too much to take at once. I can't give you any constructive advices because somehow I find your very sound as an 'ultimate' sound - considering that all this sounds were generated using your own synths. Constructing a perfect instrument is also an ultimate goal when seeking for a perfect performance for sure!
    I do not feel any connection to the lyrics of your song though.
    Ultimately it is a very basic acoustic/electronic battle.
    Or maybe it's only a 'Zank in me'.
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey, thank you for the follow up comment! I'm guessing that the similarities in the waveform between SN and I is mostly due to the mastering, and secondly to having instruments in most frequency ranges present in the mix. Beyond that I can't say why it would be, as they are different sorts of music altogether. The "ultimate sound" comment is quite a nice one. I think that it would be far more ultimate if I could do all of this in a live/one take sort of setting, as opposed to using a DAW to compose and mix (would need about eight hands!!!)... beyond that, ultimate could be taken to another level if all of my built creations could be sustainably powered and not reliant upon batteries or mains power. There will come a time when these things are not an option, and I hope to start taking that into consideration when building things. I don't expect anyone to connect with these lyrics, as no one has lived my life... on top of that, this is really like three songs in one, at least two. Not sure about the acoustic/electronic battle reference though, or the "Zank" thing, care to elaborate? I appreciate you stopping by again!
  14. mykahc
    mykahc on Wed 11th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    This is really interesting! Very good job.
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey, thank you! I appreciate the comment!
  15. promenade2239
    promenade2239 on Wed 11th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    I it is amazing how your waveform is similar to static's.
    sryy for spamming anyway

    I fav'd
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey, no problem, I appreciate the feedback and that you listened! By "static's", do you mean StaticNomad? Or do you mean that it looks like static (noise)? Just curious, because that would mean two totally different things... ha ha! Thanks for the fave!
  16. joecramer
    joecramer on Wed 11th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    Hi Spivkurl

    For some reason this reminds me on one of the (for me) best albums that ever was made!

    Yes thats right. It is not music for all times. Sure not. To agressiv and strange but if you are in the right mood - then it comes to the compleete right thing. Very cool work. I realy enjoyed the listen. I am realy in love with this kind of strange things.

    Btw the album is - DAF Die Kleinen und die Bösen
    If you never heard this album, go to
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI_nHh1b5Ps
    or if you heard it but not have, or if you have on lp and dont wanna play, or or or :)

    just listen to it

    stay tuned
    joe
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey joe, thank you for the kind words and the listen! I'm honored that this song reminded you of one of your favorite albums! I have listened to some of the link which you sent me, and I can understand the comparison a bit. I have a special place in my heart for German culture and quality craftsmanship, though I know little about the music. Seems like the unusual synthesis and sampling, plus pretty raw vocals must be some of the similarities. In general, my songs are meant to be heard in an album setting, but I like to make them stand alone in most cases. I wish I had that album on LP! Have some obscure stuff, but nothing like that. Thank you for the link! I have bookmarked it for further consideration! Appreciate the comment my friend!
  17. BradoSanz
    BradoSanz on Wed 11th Feb 2015 - 2 years ago
    I don't know why but this is very entertaining to my ears! Good stuff, thanks man. :P
    Spivkurl
    Reply by Spivkurl Hey there! Thank you for being the first to leave a comment on this one! Put a lot of effort into this one, so it's good to hear that it has entertainment value. I was doing a lot of 8 hour days to get this one how I wanted it, sometimes starting at 3 AM. Appreciate it!

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The future is interface
chemical smell interlaced
Keep on keepin on this shit
subtle lies are in your face

Living now is just a vibe
your lack of time has contrived
Blow your mind and blow a kiss
Holy dollar mother of law
Full of grace
Full of waste

Drug testing is my sixth sense
cuz you're bouncing like bad checks
Did you hear what you just missed?
I'll give you another taste

 


 

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