Description : Here is a new Spivkurl track for all of you to check out! My thought process interprets this as industrial gothic, but it's open to external interpretation. This song's sounds were almost entirely sampled from equipment which I hand soldered, whether it be synthesizer builds or circuit bending. The lead vocals were recorded with the new microphone which I built in the past few days, and I'm happy with the way it interacts with my voice. In fact the only piece of gear used that I didn't build was the microphone for the hook vocals... and they are meant to be unintelligible, as they were recorded spontaneously with a patch I called a Spivocoder (on my modular synth). Uptempo and aggressive, it's definitely my sort of industrial. Please give me your opinions if you have the time! Thanks!

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  1. silverman
    silverman on Sun 16th Jul 2017 - 6 years ago

    Machines were mice
    and men were lions
    once upon a time but
    now that it's the opposite
    it's twice upon a time

    The meaning being machines were nothing compared to men but now it's the opposite.
    And the whole thing sounds like it makes sense but it doesn't.
    It comes from an album from my misspent youth back in the early seventies. From an album called Stomping Ground by Moondog.
    Moondog was also known as the Viking of 6th avenue. He made albums toured all over the place and insisted on being homeless. He stomped around New York dressed as a viking. Very interesting guy.

    What he would think of the world today I can't imagine.
    Have a listen to this .... The world doesn't seem to have characters like this anymore.

    Reply by Spivkurl

    He MUST be the "Moondog" who is referred to on the famous Janis Joplin live album, that I have listened to religiously over the years.

    She even said that he "dressed like a viking" on the record we have! The song was credited to him, way beck then, and my wife and I have grown up with this credit.

    It's weird living where we do right now, as out city still has characters like this... we've been interacting with the same people since we moved in together in 1996. "Crazy Greg" (Who is no crazier than myself)... "Deaf Ricky" who sees more than I've ever seen. Kevin who they've been trying to catch stealing bikes since '94... appar3ently we've become a fixture now. SAD.

    I'm the guy, who just today carried a cottonwood log home for several miles. We scare the scaries.

    Thank you for reminding me of your comment and listen. "We love you"

  2. silverman
    silverman on Sat 15th Jul 2017 - 6 years ago

    Terence McKenna lives!!!!
    As he once said or maybe thrice .... chaos is what we've lost touch with.
    For those who don't know Terence ws one of the worlds most famous
    I eagerly look forward to listening to your stuff Spiv.
    When I see your name I know it's time to take a ride.
    What a ride.
    You go way beyond any frontiers the rest of us here even glimpse.
    I can smell the solder.
    You're driven.
    You're a mad scientist.
    You have to be the most creative person amongst us.
    Enjoyed the listen and intend listening again.
    Keep on keeping on Spiv and always remember ...
    Machines were mice
    and men were lions
    once upon a time but
    now that it's the opposite
    it's twice upon a time.

    Reply by Spivkurl

    My friend Silverman, you have once again made my day with your words! I had no idea that so many regular users around here had not yet heard this track, so I'm happy that I re-featured it. For some reason, I assumed it was mostly due to the adult content.

    I'm thinking that you are the only person who has identified McKenna in this one, and that also makes me happy...that someone still knows. Recently learned that Dennis McKenna is apparently stationed at the U of Minnesota very near here... wonder if I could track him down? "Chaos is what we've lost touch with" is something which is beginning to make sense, it seems like it refers to the extreme obsession that humans have developed with controlling all aspects of life. I have my moments of this obsession as well, however where natural growth/development is concerned, I try to take a more balanced approach. There is already far too much control, and life is already too convenient.

    Your compliments are not taken lightly, and you give me renewed inspiration in these all too difficult times. I also realise that you have been struggling as well, and simply seeing you here is important to me.

    Being driven, while it does usually help in creative matters, also gets me into trouble and stretches me beyond my capabilities. I have to switch into a lower gear or reverse, simply to protect myself. I'm getting better at it, which is why The Dept of Ag is invetigating public schools for me instead of me sitting in jail, after Wednesdays travesties.

    In you closing comments, I read into it possibly differently from the intentions. It seems to me that men are machines, and lions are mice these days. Maybe I'll be a mechanical man-mouse with incisors some day.

    Thanks for listening and your support my friend!

  3. dumarecht
    dumarecht on Fri 14th Jul 2017 - 6 years ago

    A modern front424? The spite in this is really attractive, has that early punk vibe to it. DIY and w3 dont care kinda thing. The vocals have that same attitude and fit well in. Gritty and liking it.

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Thank you for listening to this!

    Front242 is always a group which I have mostly ignored... I even have a cassette which I found and still has the cellophane still on it after a couple of years.

    I will admit to listening to large amounts of early punk back in the early ninenties... (my browser doesn't know the word ninenties, how sad is that?) ... any way, I loved the Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Damned, Adam and the Ants, Rolling Stones, and all that shits back then... Still do.

    People who I've known for years, they look at my pants and think I don't care, but really I just have some one who loves me. I DO CARE, and that is everything in each of my days, whether I like it or not. The best I can do is ignore the things I care about.

    I was so angry when I made these vocals, that I am lucky to not have a felony and still be locked up at this point. It is all that I wanted.

    Life is gritty, and there isn't shit we can do about it. So survivalism it is! Thank you!

  4. bitronix
    bitronix on Thu 13th Jul 2017 - 6 years ago

    I'm really curious how all of these are made, in a visual way xD

    Are these made by those big machines with LOTS and LOTS of knobs and such? Cause if it is, then awesome!

    Rhythmic sounds, I like it


    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hello, my old friend. Thank you for taking a listen to something old while I get my SH together!

    In a visual way... this sort of thing makes me go down into a fibonacci spiral, losing myself in the days observations. I will do my best.

    In a visual way... I don't know if these "sights" are past, present or future in relation to this song... ...

  5. Orlando51
    Orlando51 on Thu 13th Jul 2017 - 6 years ago

    Hi Pat,

    It seems I've missed this one before, but better late than never. This really can't be anything else than Spivkurl's trademark extravaganza and it's always almost unexplicably entertaining and this aplies to this one as well ! Thumbs up !:)


    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hello Orlando, thank you for taking a listen to this one, which is getting older by the minute!

    I've been re-featuring quite a few tracks lately for some reason. I actually have several new songs created. I think that the horribleness of life has become so overwhelming that I have lost my will to do things... it all comes down to simple survival, defence, and feeding my family. I know that at some point, this studio oriented phase in my music will be over... I know I will have to be on the run, and that does not lend itself to building complex instruments or having room to use them.

    I'm very happy that you enjoyed this song, as it still is one of my personal favorites, especially within the genre. My anger knew no bounds at that time, as it seems to lately. I am just learning to control it for fear of jail time, or at least to direct it inwards.

    I appreciate your continued support! Thank you!

  6. BLEEP
    BLEEP on Sat 8th Jul 2017 - 6 years ago

    hey spiv,

    that's funny because according to the place we come from in the world we won't have the same references lol
    Germany, during a certain period when the electro music was still underground in Europe, developed a very cold, very industrial techno sound. This production which you propose to us gets closer to it strangely. I appreciate particularly the minimalist approach which stresses the hardness of the piece.
    Haughtiness, nothing else to add:)

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Bleep, your comments are always a pleasure to read, and you have made me happy to have revisited a few older tracks as featured! Thank you for that!

    I would definitely agree that Germany has a different feel to gothic forms, as well as industrial in general, from what I think of most commonly. Much of my gothic influence comes from UK groups, which border on punk or gypsy models. My Industrial ideas definitely is more influenced by North American groups though, such as Skinny Puppy/Ohgr, Nine Inch Nails, and even some rap such as Saul Williams and Sims. It's a weird group of influences I suppose, but it really is name dropping... songs like this are mostly just pure expression of momentary anger or despair for me.

    If I had not handled yesterday's multi-department sting operation better yesterday, I would probably be angry enough to make a new song in this vein... but I also would have been in jail. So, good for me!

    I really appreciate your words and listening!

  7. MGproduct
    MGproduct on Sat 8th Jul 2017 - 6 years ago

    Ello Spiv , IDK what is this genre but it sounds good with you ...
    Ill stay to hear more from you mAN :)

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey there friend!

    This genre is, to my thoughts, industrial along the lines of Skinny Puppy or Ohgr, or secondarily KMFDM or Atari Teenage Riot. The song stemmed from a large amount of anger and frustration... luckily it was created more than two years ago!

    I must have handled my anger and frustration acceptably well, since the involved parties are not six feet under, and I have still not spent time in jail or prison! Possibly I, and the others involved, are both just lucky... maybe we are all of partially Irish descent? HAW HAW

    I really appreciate you continued support and listening! You, and those like you, make it all worthwhile! Thanks! Have a good day!

  8. Oceanically
    Oceanically on Sun 22nd Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    this was such a fascinating listen. Somehow, it reminded me of the novel, 1984! Instant like :)

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey Ocean, thank you for stopping by to listen and leave your words! That's very interesting that you mention 1984. I was never a huge fan of the book, aside from it's pop culture status... for example "big brother is watching you." That sort of thing. But looking back, I feel that the novel is much more relevant now than it was in earlier times. I really appreciate you giving some feedback!

  9. promenade2239
    promenade2239 on Sat 21st Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    haha just listening again to the first 14 seconds of this one (it's all solution, it's all halucination?) there's a kind of a hihat sound but with added harmonics at parts (very high, barely listenable short notes). it's really hard to come across the sound like this in the nature. so it helps me understand now what 'industrial' label means.
    then I can hear processed rhythmic drum noise. filtered and looped. that's all very creative but still I can't find any reference point to say something interesting. that's 'just sounds' for me. some of them seem still operate as the 'basslines' or as 'hihats', anything goes. overall it doesn't challenge my 'musical taste' at all, do not worry. 'that's what experience is'!

    Reply by Spivkurl

    The line is "It's all illusion, it's all hallucination; that's what experience is." I guess your interpretation of the high hat sound as being indicative of "industrial music" is pretty accurate. To me, white noise, and other types of random or semi-random noise are some of the most common and ignored sounds in nature. For example, take a field recording almost anywhere, chop a section of it, then stretch it down to the length of a simple waveform... play this in an endless loop, and I guarantee it will sound pretty much like random noise. Not to mention the "static" that runs through my brain on a regular basis or the deceptively "silent" background of the electrical grid which connects us all. The wind which brings the rain, and the thunder. Sounds *are* just sounds, they only become something they are not when interpreted by nerves, and ultimately a brain. Thank you again!

  10. promenade2239
    promenade2239 on Fri 20th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    Thanks a lot for the reply and sorry for cryptic type of commenting btw. 'Zank' is a refference to ZankFrappa and I actually meant the dark side of one's looperman personality (Zank is not me btw). Basically I come from very 'acoustic' type of music - that may be a reason why I see all so called 'edm' or 'electronic' sequenced music in general as something different. I remember my start of 'laptop music making' journey about 2012: a friend of mine sent me his vocals and guitars recorded using shitty dictaphone and my mixing/mastering skills were very poor at a time. I was using free version of daw called Mulab with only 4 tracks per song and many other limitations for quite a long time. At some point there must be some a kind of that limited field/grid workspace anyway...
    You're right, there's some difference between strictly real-time improvised/performed instrumental music and 'programmed' but you can also think about the PC and daw as an another, more advanced musical instrument/sequencer. I saw some older live performances by JMJarre the other day and that 'live' human factor is definitely lost there haha.

    Listening again I find your song very 'decadent' and experimental eventhough you respect the rules of the 'traditional' 4 bar song structure etc.. You start from very first level of creating the 'very sound' which I find really inspiring but also it makes your music sound maybe too 'original' and hermetic. That's very fine - I listen to it as a pure creation not through the filter of 'musical styles' anyway!

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey there, thank you for the replies! I understand where you are coming from regarding the "acoustic" and "electronic" sorts of music. I guess my thinking is a bit different. It is hard for me to think of any sound as anything other than a collection of vibrations (wave forms) of differing amplitudes, shapes and frequencies. For that reason, I have little problem using whatever gives me the type of sound I'm looking for; electronic, acoustic, or combinations (electroacoustic). I fully agree that a DAW is an instrument unto itself. I just got a MIDI to CV converter the other day, so now I can play my analog stuff from any of my midi keyboards, as well as sequencing full parts from the DAW. This will change things for me, as up until now it's been mostly sampling one shots and using them in the DAW as an instrument, or sampling longer loops and finding a key that works with them then building a song around that. Decadent is an appropriate word for what I've been doing lately. Happy that you can listen beyond musical styles, and appreciate it for what it is! Thanks!

  11. theHumps
    theHumps on Wed 18th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    Firstly I must give you props for putting the instruments together then applying them to your musical creations. That in itself is very cool. Plus you always give us something to challenge our musical tastes and likes by literally pushing the right buttons and taking us on a very cool musical journey.

    Although electronic music isn't my favorite, I was compelled to give this a few listens and let it all soak in. I must say I was totally entertained. I don't think I could listen to an entire album of this but it sure makes the day a whole lot more interesting. Thanks for stepping outside the box, as usual!


    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey Wayne, thank you for taking a few listens to this track! I'm happy that you were entertained by this! I've been changing how I do things lately, and I expect more changes forthcoming. It's good to have along for the ride. Been trying to ignore "musical tastes and likes" for the moment, and have been more concerned with expressing and challenging myself. I'm finding it really difficult to enjoy virtual synthesizers anymore, and it shows in a song like this. I realized this even more when I got my MIDI to CV converter a couple days ago and was tuning it up to my modular. Playing a simple sin wave simultaneously on a software synth and the modular with my midi controller, it was just sad the difference. The lack of character in the software was just disappointing. I'm sure you know what I mean there. I understand not being into a whole album like this of course. I don't think that I have a target audience anymore, either someone likes a song or not despite their usual listening preferences, and if someone actually listens to my albums, then all the better... that really is my ultimate goal is to release full albums to be heard in their entirety. I really appreciate your feedback!

  12. mrwolf14
    mrwolf14 on Mon 16th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    Hi Spiv,
    So good to hear something "made from you" ... and this time in all senses!
    It is funny how "pop" is this song: I think this is one of your "easiest" tracks, it is really musical and "pleasant" while reading your description (and knowing you) I was expecting something more "extreme".
    Of course, the sounds you used can be defined "harsh" but once put in your mix they get very enjoyable.
    Liked it.
    Liked it a lot.
    Ciao, Domenico

    Reply by Spivkurl

    For some reason, I thought that I had replied to this comment already. I must have been just thinking about your words a lot since you posted this. I'm actually pretty pleased that you found it somewhat pop, as I don't think most people would agree. I think mostly I've just been getting a more trained ear, as well as trying new things each time I bring a song to completion. I really appreciate harsh sounds in a clear sounding final product. Thank you so much for the feedback!

  13. GregVincey
    GregVincey on Mon 16th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    Rock in your face. Yea! I feel like smashing stuff. uhhhh Rock yea.

    Reply by Spivkurl

    ha ha, yeah, you got the message that's for sure! Kind of though about moshing when making this one (or slam dancing if that's your preference). Was picturing a giant dirty circle pit. Thanks for the comment! Smash the system while you're at it!

  14. RealProblemShuckers
    RealProblemShuckers on Fri 13th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    This should sound like noise; but oddly it works!

    Thats what you do quite well- take a genre and put your own style on to it.

    Well done!

    Reply by Spivkurl

    I guess I'm not sure what is meant by "This should sound like noise". In the end, it ended up sounding exactly like I wanted it too. Literal "noise" is incorporated into so many genres now, including pop music, and people instantly accept it as an instrument. Don't know why this song would be any different. I appreciate the compliment though. I only use industrial as a genre because it is the only place this will fit. When it's sounds that people don't usually hear, you are limited in genres. Thank you for the interesting comment!

  15. KometBeing
    KometBeing on Fri 13th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    it is all illusion... when we uncover this fact is when the fun begins...
    very dance-able... yes I did dance to it!
    need the lyrics desperately!
    it triggered my mania later & I had to take a chill pill & a few tokes
    thanks for this fun music

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey there Mr Being! Good to help you dance for a while! Sorry about the mania effect, I guess I channelled mine into this song a bit. The lyrics are in the "song lyrics" tab right below the song description here. The ones that are not typed in are a mystery even to me! Hope you are well! Thank you for the comment!

  16. soundhound
    soundhound on Thu 12th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    This is way more top heavy then my hihat...LOL
    You just pulling my leg or something, with any volume
    this will send you to the Ear Doctor...Just joking...haha...
    Truly with all the distorted harmonics, it's really not
    something I would play in my car or at home...It's just
    not where my head is, or has it ever been with this style...
    Honestly...But you've put it together in a cool way, it's not
    easy to organize such confusion into something Musical...
    It's your thing man, do it like you like it...


    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hello, and thank you for checking out this track! You are right, the high hats are stronger than many of my tracks, but in relation to the balance of high and low frequencies, they are fairly low in the mix. You can kind of tell at the beginning when there is only high hats, then everything else comes in, and it's all much louder and focused on different frequencies. It was quite a strain on the ears getting the mix and master how I wanted, so I understand. This is quite different from the things that you write, so I wouldn't expect you to listen to it much. I appreciate you listening regardless of the pain it may have caused!

  17. ZankFrappa
    ZankFrappa on Thu 12th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    I disagree on joecramer. This sounds like "Der Plan"! Shame on you, joe!

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey there. Checked out that video, and while I appreciate the comparison, I don't really think it sounds much like this song. I did enjoy hearing/watching it, and played it for my wife last night. Looks like it would've been a fun video shoot to be at! Thanks for the comment!

  18. 15ludwicke
    15ludwicke on Thu 12th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    Loved this spivkurl,
    LivingInSilence would love this too I'm sure because he loves making his own instruments and you do a fantastic job of that here. Thanks for the inspiration and keep up the good work!

    Rico L.

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey, thanks for the feedback! I guess I didn't realize LivingInSilence was building instruments, I'll have to look into that! Happy that you enjoyed listening to this. Appreciate it!

  19. promenade2239
    promenade2239 on Wed 11th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    yes, I noticed that the waveform of your track is so similar to the actual StaticNomad's chillout stuff. I just read very closely your comments on his track and tried to figured out the very essence... I know it's very crazy. haha. It is far too much to take at once. I can't give you any constructive advices because somehow I find your very sound as an 'ultimate' sound - considering that all this sounds were generated using your own synths. Constructing a perfect instrument is also an ultimate goal when seeking for a perfect performance for sure!
    I do not feel any connection to the lyrics of your song though.
    Ultimately it is a very basic acoustic/electronic battle.
    Or maybe it's only a 'Zank in me'.

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey, thank you for the follow up comment! I'm guessing that the similarities in the waveform between SN and I is mostly due to the mastering, and secondly to having instruments in most frequency ranges present in the mix. Beyond that I can't say why it would be, as they are different sorts of music altogether. The "ultimate sound" comment is quite a nice one. I think that it would be far more ultimate if I could do all of this in a live/one take sort of setting, as opposed to using a DAW to compose and mix (would need about eight hands!!!)... beyond that, ultimate could be taken to another level if all of my built creations could be sustainably powered and not reliant upon batteries or mains power. There will come a time when these things are not an option, and I hope to start taking that into consideration when building things. I don't expect anyone to connect with these lyrics, as no one has lived my life... on top of that, this is really like three songs in one, at least two. Not sure about the acoustic/electronic battle reference though, or the "Zank" thing, care to elaborate? I appreciate you stopping by again!

  20. mykahc
    mykahc on Wed 11th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    This is really interesting! Very good job.

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey, thank you! I appreciate the comment!

  21. promenade2239
    promenade2239 on Wed 11th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    I it is amazing how your waveform is similar to static's.
    sryy for spamming anyway

    I fav'd

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey, no problem, I appreciate the feedback and that you listened! By "static's", do you mean StaticNomad? Or do you mean that it looks like static (noise)? Just curious, because that would mean two totally different things... ha ha! Thanks for the fave!

  22. joecramer
    joecramer on Wed 11th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    Hi Spivkurl

    For some reason this reminds me on one of the (for me) best albums that ever was made!

    Yes thats right. It is not music for all times. Sure not. To agressiv and strange but if you are in the right mood - then it comes to the compleete right thing. Very cool work. I realy enjoyed the listen. I am realy in love with this kind of strange things.

    Btw the album is - DAF Die Kleinen und die Bsen
    If you never heard this album, go to
    or if you heard it but not have, or if you have on lp and dont wanna play, or or or :)

    just listen to it

    stay tuned

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey joe, thank you for the kind words and the listen! I'm honored that this song reminded you of one of your favorite albums! I have listened to some of the link which you sent me, and I can understand the comparison a bit. I have a special place in my heart for German culture and quality craftsmanship, though I know little about the music. Seems like the unusual synthesis and sampling, plus pretty raw vocals must be some of the similarities. In general, my songs are meant to be heard in an album setting, but I like to make them stand alone in most cases. I wish I had that album on LP! Have some obscure stuff, but nothing like that. Thank you for the link! I have bookmarked it for further consideration! Appreciate the comment my friend!

  23. BradoSanz
    BradoSanz on Wed 11th Feb 2015 - 9 years ago

    I don't know why but this is very entertaining to my ears! Good stuff, thanks man. :P

    Reply by Spivkurl

    Hey there! Thank you for being the first to leave a comment on this one! Put a lot of effort into this one, so it's good to hear that it has entertainment value. I was doing a lot of 8 hour days to get this one how I wanted it, sometimes starting at 3 AM. Appreciate it!

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Description : This track I made 2 years ago and I found it now ocasionally, so, yeah, I'm posting it here...

Description : This is one sexy track. Bordering NeuroFunk.. I made this heavily sleep deprived and exhausted within a few hours.. Getting to grips with mixing again, how is it on your end? I'm also feeling some tom toms in the intro.. Maybe.. Best enjoyed with headphones :)

Description : The results of one of my most intense recording sessions to date. I don't think I've explored a single key this deeply ever before. (G minor for those of you wondering) I pulled out my old Epiphone Les Paul, which I've rebuilt and customized over the years. Typed the original lyrics for the song on a couple text message drafts in my phone, then expanded upon them. Has some dubstep elements which are obvious, but it's at a higher tempo. So I guess there's some gothic and industrial in there too. Thanks for taking a listen! You can get the new Spivkurl album "Charting The Anomaly," which includes this track at the We Are... Records Capitalist Market found here:

Tags : | Industrial | 7.33 MB

Description : This track was done with great love in my heart ;)

Tags : | Industrial | 2.96 MB

Description : Drawing on my favourite bands this demo fuses pulsing electronic beats with raw electric guitar, horror movie sound clips and a bit of my singing!

My next track will feature loops from Looperman so please follow me to hear it first!

Tags : | Industrial | 2.36 MB

Description : This is an instrumental track. I made this using a couple of loops and samples I created in the past. The software used was FL Studio 9.

Description : Here's a kind of industrial type thing. Kind of. It's a little more 4 0n the floor compared to most of my stuff. Enjoy.