Description : Part two of three. EDIT - 04/05/2018: I went back and adjusted a few things. I cut some of the hi-mids in the guitars. Boosted the overall low end bass frequencies, and brought the drums forward a little.

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  1. Jynxz
    Jynxz on Wed 9th Sep 2020 - 1 year ago

    Whenever I grow a pair, and come out of the closet as the Hardcore Metal-head I am, this is the exact sound I want.
    Excellent track
    PEACE...

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Do it!

    But when you come out of the metal closet, you have to kick your way out. You can't just turn the knob and slip out. You have to kick that thing, and come out screaming, "I am Fookin' metal! Hear..my...wrath!!"

    True story, bro. That's how it's done.

    Thanks for stopping by and giving a listen and a comment. I appreciate. it.

    Take care.
    V.

  2. terryjmhitsong
    terryjmhitsong on Sat 5th Sep 2020 - 1 year ago

    THIS IS SO GOOD MAN...IT DESERVES TO BE PLAYED LIVE...YOUR GONNA NEED TO FIND SOME SERIOUS TALENT TOO PLAY IT THOUGH....I REALLY STRUGGLE TRYIN TO MAKE HEAVY MUSIC ON COMPUTER...YOU ON THE OTHER HAND HAVE MASTERED IT...IM HEARING YOUR EVOLUTION THROUGH YOUR TRACKS BTW AND LOVE THE DIRECTION YOUR GOIN IN NOW...BUT IM SURE YOU WILL HAVE SOME MORE HEAVY METAL TRACKS CREEPING AROUND WAITING TO COME OUT OF THE WALLS

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Thanks, man. I appreciate you taking the time to listen to some older work. I really like this one too.

    As far as the direction I'm going, it's actually backwards. What I'm doing now is more like what I started with. These metal tunes are the offshoot. Even though I live, eat, and breathe metal since 1984, I still really enjoy making the electronic work.
    I will have more metal to come, but until I can get a new laptop that can handle it, it had to be put on hold.

    Thanks again, man. I truly appreciate it.
    Take care.
    V.

  3. bringerofDOOM
    bringerofDOOM on Wed 15th Jul 2020 - 2 years ago

    I had to turn the stereo down at first. There is probably some 4K stuff still going on in the mix, but that might just be my ears.
    Overall awesome job, love the double bass, I wish I could shed my bias as a guitar player and quit with the qualifier "good for VSTs" because blind study I may not have been able to tell (especially when you use both), and it shouldn't matter as long as it sounds good.
    If it was me, I would put an EQ on the master and scoop the mids a little more, but once again that could just be my ears or stereo, and I am no expert.
    Another thing to consider is to EQ all three parts of the Trilogy together, then render the separate pieces, to make the production consistent between them (unless you have 50 tracks, which you may).
    Bass sounds good, nice and clean in my sub, no mud.
    Great track, like the more aggressive sound.

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    You may be correct about the 4k in the mixing. I don't know about scooping more mids. Maybe. I'll have to wait until my new laptop arrives and is up and running before I can do any more editing. Right now I only have my ancient back-up laptop that can't handle what I need to do.

    If I ever get to a point where I put my work on respective albums, then I will definitely be mastering accordingly. But for now, I'm streaming on Looperman and Soundcloud where people don't really listen to more than one track, more than one time.

    Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment. I apologize for the extremely late reply. None the less, I appreciate your input.

    Take care
    V.

  4. crucethus
    crucethus on Tue 27th Mar 2018 - 4 years ago

    How did i miss this Bitch!
    Incredible energy, needs a singer. would you go in the growly direction or the helium head style of singing on this one?
    Cru

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Deifinitely the growls style. Im not entirely sure what the heliumhead style is. But if its what my imagination makes it out to be, it would be pretty funny.

    Part 3 is in the final stages, and should be up soon. Stay tuned, my friend.

    Take care.
    Aaron.

  5. SeriouslyJoking
    SeriouslyJoking on Fri 15th Sep 2017 - 4 years ago

    Hi, just checking on you guys, are you all still behaving in here?

    So the witch has her own cathedral you say? Why is she drowning then?
    But I liked the melody, the drums not so much. My favourite part is from 3:30 to 4:36!

    Cheers and take care// SJ =)

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    SJ! Holy crap, how have you been? We havent seen you around in a while. I hope all is well!

    Maybe shes an aquatic witch? Her cathedral might be underwater. Or maybe shes a boghag.

    Im glad you liked the tune...or at least most of it. ;)

    It was good to hear from you!

    Take care.
    V.

  6. Evisma
    Evisma on Sat 29th Apr 2017 - 5 years ago

    Greetings, VD.

    Trilogy, eh? Cool idea.
    Intro reminds me of the bog witch from "Legend" with Tommy Cruise.

    Damn, a lot of this is reminding me of early Mastodon. Lovely gallups and ride bells. There does seem to be a lot of high-mids in the guitars that give a lot of fizz, but I don't know if EQing that out would kill something. I do a really tight Q and boost a frequency 100 percent and slowly sweep down the frequencies and cut everything that is harsh or maxing out and overpowering all else. Distorted guitars are a serious bitch.

    Some of the heaviest drums I've heard from you. Crazy as hell at times. The midway point is quite the ankle workout for some poor digital drummer.

    4:20 is always a good time for a lead solo, and we end with Mucklebones' asthmatic wheezing, repeated creepiness. Nice.

    Good, heavy shit that really doesn't let up. You might like this...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUm12I7pZwk
    One of my favorite bands, their shortest track, no lyrics, just a dynamic rhythm and great guitar chuggies!

    Good stuff, Maynard.

    Mr. E

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Dude! I didnt even see that you left this comment! Sorry about that, man.

    That intro wasnt something that I really liked 100%, but after the amount of time Inspent processing it to sound that way, Ill be go to hell if I just chuck it.

    To say that my work reminds you of Mastodon is a pretty huge compliment. Those boys are one of my favorites. So, thanks for that.

    There are some pretty dominant high-mids. But I think part of that is A) I wasnt using my normal mixing headphones, and didnt check all my systems first. And B) I dont have the low end of the bass guitar up as high as it should be. Which is something Ill be fixing. I just finished up Overmyth III. (Static should be happy about that. This trilogy concept seems to annoy him for some reason.) So, now I can go back and tweak.

    Ill give that link a try in just a bit. Right now, Valves are calling.

    Laters, mang.

  7. Emolyte
    Emolyte on Fri 28th Apr 2017 - 5 years ago

    Never got the chance to hear PT 1, but I may just do it after hearing this...many various tones but still dark throughout and It's great!

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Eyedye, how ya doin?

    Thanks for taking the time to listen, and comment, too. I'm glad you liked it enough to do so.
    Pert 1 is here: https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/184039#comments if you want to check it out. It's a bit different than this one. Part 3 is in production now, so it should be up relatively soon.

    Thanks again. I appreciate it!

    Skol!
    V.

  8. Tumbleweed
    Tumbleweed on Sun 16th Apr 2017 - 5 years ago

    Oh man...what have thou done.....I`m only part way through and I`m reminded that I haven`t dug out my all time fav Nightwish concert video in a while (DVD) and let the hard times roll...you could have convinced me this was all done with real instruments...I like that you got the nice fat stuff in the guitar EQ and that big rich distortion (without the harsh treble stuff that some forget to dial out)...I watched the Nightwish drummer pretty close (as I would have died trying to keep up with his double-kick stuff) but your drummer guy here has a bionic pair of legs HaHa...Best metal I`ve heard on the Loop Aaron or a lot of other places as far as that goes (although you can likely guess its not my most frequent listening genre)...If there were some things in the mix you didn`t like, I sure as hell didn`t notice them...too busy catching the whole vibe...top class stuff...I like it too...gotta hit tha fav button....Keep on....Ed

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Ed, Hello!

    Well, I guess it's official. I did just fine on the mixing. I imagine that if anyone would notice any problems, it would be you.

    "Best metal I`ve heard on the Loop Aaron or a lot of other places as far as that goes"

    That's a hell of a compliment, my friend! I don't take it lightly! Especially since it's not your preferred genre.

    I thank you, sir, for the kindness and support!

    take care.
    Aaron

  9. nicetones101
    nicetones101 on Sat 15th Apr 2017 - 5 years ago

    Hey Valvedriver!Mate dope track i really loved it.It took me back the 90s and man i loved every bit of it!Im heading in to your profile to listen to more of your tracks!Keep rocking out Valvedriver!

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Nicetones. How are you?

    Thanks for stopping by! I'm glad you liked this. It's really the only one I have like it...for now.

    Thanks again for the kind words.

    Take care.
    V.

  10. Danke
    Danke on Sat 15th Apr 2017 - 5 years ago

    Aaron!

    This is epic!!!
    That 'main' riff from 1.56 won the listener endlessly...ultimate metal with hilarious drums, specially the kick...as Dave Lombardo, the king...
    Guitars are sharp as knife and that moody pad at the back gave that dark feeling to the track...could easily listen to it with female vocs (weird?)...
    I go back to check the first part, somehow I missed it or don't remember but this one is an outstanding job...
    all my hats off with my handshake on my knees...:-)

    Danke

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Danke, How are you my friend?

    Dave Lombardo has always been one of my favorites!
    Coincidentally enough, the moody pads in the background actually are female vocals. I just kept them lower in the mix to not take away from the guitars.

    I'm glad you liked this one, bud. I'll be putting up one more from the series soon.

    Take care, mister.
    Aaron.

  11. Orlando51
    Orlando51 on Sat 15th Apr 2017 - 5 years ago

    Hi Aaron,

    The otherworldly intro forecasts something special indeed and that's what we get and even more. Incredible this is done again only with vst's...so convincing sound! This one is a stunner....punchy and agressive, dark metal at it's best! I really like the transition and what follows...also the outro is logical conclusion. No wonder you like this one so much yourself...deservedly so ! 10/10 for this masterpiece !!

    Hat's off_____Orlando

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Orlando, hello!

    Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you liked this one. I still have one more in the series, so stay tuned!

    Thanks again, friend.

    Take care.
    Aaron

  12. Nodog
    Nodog on Sat 15th Apr 2017 - 5 years ago

    Epically dark and witchy I usually don't usualy like heavy metal but this is quality .. well done

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Nodog, how are you?

    Thanks for the compliment. Especially considering it's not your preferred genre.

    Thanks again.

    Take care.
    V.

  13. StaticNomad
    StaticNomad on Sat 15th Apr 2017 - 5 years ago

    I am the Nomad. I take many forms. But you may know me as a bitch. (A bitch).

    Witchy word ups, yo.

    So, the vocal sample does little for me and I'd rather things began at 0:36. Dark, descending lead that's very black metal.

    1:08 I like that lower riffage. And now this is all very authentic dark metal, I guess like quite a few bands in that sort of genre, not that I listen to Nile, Morbid Angel or Bloodbath. So, while sounding 100% authentic, nothing really sets it apart so far.

    2:28 aha I like that lead. Nice bends and sustain. Dark trippy stuff to headbang fully to.

    Again: I'd say the drums are a bit pushed back and I'm not sure I can hear the kick. But that's also quite authentic for the genre. Who the hell would know this was made all with software?

    3:27 nice little break and now the new (ish) riff is better. Guitars sound great. I can't notice that much bass. This is, like various metal, all about the faux g.

    This is really good stuff. The only thing holding back my genuine enjoyment of it is that I'm not sufficiently into this dark metal style. It comes across as lots of brutality but not much melody or cool groove for me. But people into the genre should really like that. I'll alert some metal friends to its existence and see what they think though they may well not reply.

    Laters,

    A bitch.

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    A bitch, another honest reply. Awesome!

    "So, the vocal sample does little for me..."

    Yeah. It's not for everyone. But for the context of the song, it works for me. I had originally had the main body of the song finished before I had a title for it. Then as I was sitting there listening to it to figure out where to go from that point, I had the idea to put some witch vox in it. After all the work I had to do to get it listenable, I wasn't about to toss it out. There was plenty of EQ'ing. The original girl's S's were ear piercing and required a delicate mix.

    " So, while sounding 100% authentic, nothing really sets it apart so far. "

    I'll take it. Considering this is my first completed actual metal tune that I liked enough to expose, I'll take it. I'll worry about setting them apart after I get the full hang of just doing it.

    "Again: I'd say the drums are a bit pushed back and I'm not sure I can hear the kick."

    "I can't notice that much bass. "

    I don't know, man. Maybe it's whatever speakers you're using to listen. I could probably boost the kicks a little, but after checking against 3 of the 5 systems I usually use, I could hear them just fine. I actually had to pull them back just a little. Maybe I went too far?
    The bass is there, loud and clear. I can hear that just fine too. I'm afraid to boost that any more at all. It will start clipping and ducking. I wonder if it's because it follows so closely to the gietar riffs. I tried EQ'ing the Thunderfiddle and the Fauxtars in a way that there wasn't a gap in frequencies.
    I'll see what others have to say about those issues. If it's a common thing, I'll go in and readjust some stuff. I still have a little room to play with the kicks. I may just boost them anyhow.

    " It comes across as lots of brutality but not much melody"

    That may just be from my years of listening to more brutal death metal than melodic. It wasn't until about 5 years ago that I really started leaning that way. Before it was just straight up Cannibal Corpse, Skinless, Dying Fetus, etc. Bands that just sound like butchery. I'm still trying to get the hang of melodic. Not just in my metal, but all my tracks. It's a good challenge.

    Let me know what your metal friends think. Knowing metal heads, I'd venture to guess they won't like it, simply because it's not "pure". Even if they like it, they won't like it. No metal can be brutal if it was made on a computer, ya know?

    Laters
    V bitch

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