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Description : FINAL UPDATE -- 25.06.2015 -- L.O.D - Lovers of darkness
- Phatkatz4 on guitars and drums
- Joe Cramer vocals, synths and drums
I tryed to enhanced Phatkatz track. https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/139962
used loop - Chris Hall waves-and-ocean
german and english lyrics are in the lyric folder
enjoy - comments are welcome

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  1. Darklighter
    Darklighter on Sat 4th Jul 2015 - 8 years ago

    you got a unique sound - respect

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Hey Darklighter

    Thanks for your time you spent on this track and for your friendly comment.

    stay tuned
    joe

  2. DanGoldstein
    DanGoldstein on Tue 30th Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    love this dark, edgy atmosphere. i like the use of narrative very much - very spooky!

    I am glad there is a message of hope!

    nice work - phatkatz work great also!

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks Midisparks for your time and the comment.

    Nice to hear that you like the atmosphere we created and
    I am pleased that you have understood the lyric as well.

    stay tuned
    joe

  3. Neomorpheus
    Neomorpheus on Sat 27th Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    Hey Joe this is really Avant Garde bro.

    Don't know if its heavy enough to be considered Doom Metal maybe Doom Punk !
    I dig the guitar track but wish there could have been more chord progression or a bridge. Great job on the vocals, really adds to the sinister or macabre element.

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Hi Neomorpheus

    I think it is more Dark Gloom Rock but i am not good in genres and i am really not into Rock and or Mestal at all :)

    Last metal concert i enjoyed was somewhat around 1984 with
    Corn and Ozzy and Iron Maiden and two others. They played in a big sports hall on two stages, so it was almost 7 hours in one go :)
    Almost enough for a life time

    This track wasnt planed in any way, so i had no influence on the music at all. I just grab Phatkatz track and start working a bit on it. Maybe there is not much progression but i feel like it fits good to the overall feeling of the track. A little solo could be intressting but thats Phatkatz work :)

    Thanks for your kind words. I bet Burt enjoys your "avant garde" same then me

    stay tuned
    joe

  4. Spivkurl
    Spivkurl on Fri 26th Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    This is quite awesome! Your vocal work is done very well, and fits the tone of the music. I enjoyed reading the lyrics, and I couldn't help but think of my wish for the older inhabitants of the earth, who are hanging on by a pharmaceutical thread, to move on and let us build a better world. Maybe not what you intended, but it speaks to me all the same. This reminds me a bit of the garage band era around this town I still reside in. Teenagers having an amazing time opening for touring bands in a little ghetto club which no longer exists. Angst and focus. Leaving the stage and then moshing to the rest of the bands til late in the night. Thank you for reminding me. Fave!

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Hello Spivkurl

    Nice to read something from you. Like always :)

    You are not realy far from what i had in mind when i wrote the lyrics! Sure they fit to this little piece of music and in this case they are just good for the "movie" that Phatkatz has in his mind. (but i wrote them befor start working on this track really)
    In fact i had in mind something like this:
    All the bad, sad, unfriendly and terrible things around you, slowly destroy all the lights, what makes this world a fine place to be, like love and friendship, humanity, brotherhood and so on.
    But here is a easy thing you could do. That every body could do. Just leave all this things behind and walk into a better world. With no anger or angst or fear, with no feeling of giving anything back. Only witht the feeling of doing it right in the way it has to be done. Giving in the way you wanna get........
    So it ends with a - Come, we go ahead.
    And if all would follow, the world would change :)
    So this isnt a real dark track. It sounds dark and deep in a way but i think it gives some hope

    We had this youth clubs also in town. This was good times ........ but now mostly all gone ...... just one of the lights that already be killed .... time to enlighten it again :)

    Thanks for your nice comment. I really enjoyed all your the words.

    stay tuned
    joe

  5. xXinFormalXxAJ
    xXinFormalXxAJ on Fri 26th Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    This is not heavy metal, there are no heavy guitar riff's on this and no screaming!!
    I could hear only a spooky voice :D
    But creepy in a way. I liked the drums. The electric guitar really gives it a spooky haunted effect.
    It sounds somewhat down. Good work though :)

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    the heavy guitar riffs and the terrible, wild, screaming vocals were recorded by the crew below deck and without light. Unfortunately, you can barely hear it. :)

    if it is a genre "spooky metal" or something like "dark rock" I would have taken one of them

    Phatkatz will be excited about your words to his guitar playing/sound

    Nice to hear that you liked it. I really enoyed your comment

    stay tuned
    joe

  6. Burtsbluesboxes
    Burtsbluesboxes on Thu 25th Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    I like the waves in the opening, It's like we just stepped onto the Island of Dr. Moreau. Do you want to be shot like a zombie again? I have a boiling death that needs to be put to use :p It's painless hahahaha Joe gets shipwrecked and swims to the closest Island only to find it's inhabited by cannibals. What's for dinner? Joe is :D One of my biggest hold ups has been the drums on this! I'm not that good at programming beats so I use alot of premade midi ones, then I'll edit them if needed. Since you redid the drums I'll re record the guitar and bass so we can do a proper mix :D I'll send you wav files of those. Probably be sometime next week. I'm going to be really busy the next couple days.

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    There is someone on this ship on his way into his own darkness ..... he felt into sleep and a nightmare is on the way ..... In his darkest dreams he found a helping hand and a voice told him that he could leave the nightmare ...... he slowly awakes and have a look around ...... he saw that he hit an island with his ship and that it will not go anywhere else ....... after a while he leaves the ship and goes into the jungle near the beach ....... Dr Moreau already waits for him .... the real nightmare still waits around the corner ....

    Dont worry about time. Record whenever you have the time or the right feeling to do so. In between i just do something different. Maybe another zombie one :) ? or this blues one, or a zombie blues maybe ......

    This drums are realy nothing special. First I just used a standart robota beat and cut it abit and place it under the track, and let the fills away. Then i cut a standart fill and mixed it again with the drums under the track and look that i have almost same power on the new drums then the one in your track. So all what makes this beat sound cool is more the original drum line with your fills and extra sounds.

    PM me when you have recored anything. I will send you a link to the stems.

    stay tuned
    joe

  7. GramoChopin
    GramoChopin on Tue 23rd Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    Dark. Agree with the others, voice is creepy. Not really a stranger to dark things so I really like the vibes on this one. 2:03 tom sounds a little muffled but not a major deal. Guitar is pretty low and ominous and the drums has a nice pace. Great work. Dangerous.

    Gramo/Neo

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    The drum thing is one of the harder thing here to work on. I already taked some "new" ones over the track from Phatkatz but i left the fills. Hadnt the time to try to make the same fills by myself so i used the org ones :) The thing is that i work only with a mp3 with guitars and drums included. So all i can do is let the guitars sound good and at the same time let the fills not sound to bad at all :) still trying to find a better level on that.
    Right now i added a cello like synth and working on a more centered "lead" vocal. After that, the drums are on the list :)

    Thanks for your nice comment GramoChopin

    stay tuned
    joe

  8. Orlando51
    Orlando51 on Mon 22nd Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    You always know exactly how to make things sounding better
    or/and more interesting!

    Congrats______Orlando

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks for your friendly words Orlando

    I realy dont know any at all, i just tryed to let it sound good and sure in a way intresting and it looks like i had a little luck :)

    stay tuned
    joe

  9. promenade2239
    promenade2239 on Mon 22nd Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    hello Joe,

    I whish I had better awareness to what is really happening on the looperman track section currently but my attention is very selective now.

    to me this piece is really dark coloured - very unlike from all of what I could hear from you last time. Probably it is too heavy even as I prefer lighter sounds - I am still searching for the proper convention here haha.

    Nice collab!

    Good luck with your future projects!

    All the best to you, Aleksander

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Hello Aleks

    Nice that you found some time for listen to this one, while all this "things" happend in the looperversum :)

    The plan was to make a real deep and dark metal one.
    Phatkatz called it nightmare, so it couldnt be light
    But overall it isnt that evil :)

    Thanks for your nice comment

    stay tuned
    joe

  10. Burtsbluesboxes
    Burtsbluesboxes on Sun 21st Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    Love that you're working with this old track, and what you've with it!! :D Does it really need to be re recorded now? You got is sounding pretty damn good :p I have another old dark one, Doom(not posted), that was actually the first one I recorded with DAW if you're interested in doing a similar treatment :D I do need to re record that one, be alot easier to work out the drums for that, than this one. I bought a video loop for making a video for Doom, but never got around to it. Also for this I have a clip from Dr.Tarr's Torture dungeon (Poe movie) that may work well in the opening. Love that ocean sound hahaha I was thinking this song would come before Doom like the beginning of the adventure. The movie is about an asylum, in the forest, where the patients have taken over imprisoning the Dr (Dr.Tarr) and staff. The clip i was thinking of "You will enter this dungeon. Let the shadows watch over you as you sleep. (laughing)" Doom song feels like passing through the halls of an old castle. Here's the movie. It;s public domain so it's ok to use clips :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqtxVBFixa0

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Hey Burt, no need for a rework just for me :)

    Nice to see that you didnt shoot me like a zombie for this one

    I will play around just a little bit with this one until i lost fun OR until i think it is a real great one and THEN i will ask you for the wav file, cause i just used that centraldev mastering try. so mp3 from a mp3 to mp3 .... but you are right it dosent sound bad for that.

    Let me know when you will start on your doom project and need some vocals or else :)

    stay tuned
    joe

  11. DijamMusic
    DijamMusic on Sun 21st Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    Hello Joe,
    That is a lot better very good.
    Great Job.
    Jamid

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Hello Jamid

    Nice to see that you found some time to listen again to it.
    I think it is a lot deeper now and fits much better.

    stay tuned
    joe

  12. 15ludwicke
    15ludwicke on Sat 20th Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    Hey man cool track, but I think that the vocals could have been projected more clearly, because I can't understand a word they are saying lol. But I really like the vintage/80's shock metal vibes I'm getting from this one! Loving the flanger on the guitar, adds some pretty sinister feel to the background of the track.

    Awesome job!
    Rico L.

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks for your friendly comment.

    Can it be that you dont understand anything because you cant any german :) ?

    I think i make a kind of a leadvoice over the choir, then it should be better to get.

    stay tuned
    joe

  13. DijamMusic
    DijamMusic on Sat 20th Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    Hello Joe,
    Now this is good, mind you I would have preferred it with your music though.
    But, hey its great job.
    Jamid

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Listen to it again please - the big update was just finished minutes after you listen.

    Thanks for your listen and nice words

    stay tuned
    joe

  14. silverman
    silverman on Sat 20th Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    Brilliant as always Joe.
    Love your voice.
    It's a very saleable one I'm thinking.

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    :) if you found a way to make my voice to money, tell me soon!! I am open for comercial !!!!

    Nice to know that you enjoy you listen.
    Phatkatz thinks on a rerecord and i bet then this could sound much better.

    Thanks for your real gentle comment Mr. Silverman

    stay tuned
    joe

  15. Burtsbluesboxes
    Burtsbluesboxes on Sat 20th Jun 2015 - 8 years ago

    that voice.... that's just creepy 3:D> Love it :p I'll let you know when I rerecord this. Love it hahaha :D

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    nice to know that you like it. :)
    i stay here and wait

    stay tuned
    joe

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