crucethus

Thanks for the comment and your ears.

I am glad you enjoyed my track and please if you have any suggestions I would greatly appreciate them.

Again thanks for your ear
Dirtzilla

Yo.

Dirty old engine intro with a morphing filter applied to it is a kind of chugging, chilled way to start things off. I really still think all this dirty cello riffage sounds just like guitar and I'm certain no one would be able to guess they're hearing a cello if I hadn't disclosed that. There are some other, undistorted cello parts in this but it overall really doesn't sound like cello music.

"a weird sound at the end of each measure that sounds like Japanese words that someone is saying in stereo"

That is a surprising comment and I will have to go back and listen hard for that. It would be fun if that was somehow in there. More likely is that you have indeed lost it. But did you ever really have it?

"you are advancing this sound well beyond apocalyptica ever did"

The difference between me and them is that they can really play the cello and I can't. Not yet. Well, I'm good at plucking (pizzicato) but the bowing is so hard and I can't really play consistently fluent riffs. I hit the wrong string(s), hit crap tones, get lots of shitty, whingey, scrapey sounds and so on. I have to do loads of editing of my playing to end up with something decent. Adding the heavy distortion really helps mask my fuckups. No distortion and they are very exposed.

I once saw Apocalyptica at a music festival in Czech Republic. Worst festival I have ever been to! Quite a story as to why it was so awful. I'll leave that for another time.

Did you like the addition of delayed Rhodes in the second heavy movement? I think that's an unusual instrument for a heavy track. Later on, going into the third heavy movement, the Rhodes gets funky and distorted.

"Strings at 3.25 are exquisite. and then you hang them out to dry in the neversphere. hmmm sounds like a familiar plan. "

The "neversphere" is a nice term I may find some use for. Is this being too familiar a criticism? Sure, I've done stuff like that before but sometimes you just do whatever you have to to bridge sections together. The stringy pad chill helps break things up and I'm really quite pleased with the arrangement of this and the variety between the sections and the length. Seems just about right, without me trying to do too much.

" I christen this genre Cellosludge."

I think cellometallo is a more amusing term. Reminds me of Nutella. But you're welcome to cellosludge though I think it might have to be dirty, heavier and less of a dance track to really be sludge. I'd say I make stoner, grunge and some metal but not really sludge.

"That Bubble an Squeak synth was cool"

Yes, those synth arp melodies have really stuck in my head.

Nice upload will be cellout dance music. Not as good as this track, even though they were until recently joined together in a confusing, overly long mess of a track. More track splitting success for me.

Later, Mr Cru

The Bow Mad Bromad, celling shit up.

Thanks! And oooh, listening to it again, I see what you mean! Actually puts a pretty interesting spin on things lol. And trust me, there's a lot more to come. I'm only getting better with Logic pro x (Which I got about a week ago), so I hope to make more interesting tracks with much more of that atmospheric sound. Thanks for the comment by the way, It means a lot to see that someone I admire on this website is taking a listen to my music! Much love man!

Thanks Steve! Hey, watch it, you're one of the reasons I made this track. Now, you're giving me more ideas, ha ha! Keep that up and I'll have a whole album of songs named after colors, drugs and numbers lol!

WOW Thanks for leaving this comment, I live a few hours away, and was at first ave for the party after he passed. GReat talent he was (and the time, and A.O. for sure) cheers to hoping the Minneapolis sound will live forever. thanks for listening.

Hi Steve .
thanks and I'm really sorry about late reply .
I'll be really glad to see what you may do with this one .
feel free to contact me , if you need anything .
thank you very much again .

Elena :)

Always glad to help out. :)

Thanks for the listen and comment. Much appreciated.

tv

wow thank you so much for taking the time to check it out and I will definitely put some work into the chorus as you said to ensure this track is as great as possible. Thanks again and I hope you understand how crucial specific input such as yours is to a solo artist with no one to turn to :)

lol That's great!! I did the mix and I'm a vocalist/ bass player. I do like the guitars out front. I will have to look up Struts, I have a few tracks on here. I am new to this whole loop thing but I do like it. There is a lot of talent on this site and I'm enjoying it when I have time. I'm back in the studio recording a new Cd the songs have not been mastered and I value any input like yours here. Thank you for your ears and I will take a listen to it again.

yeah im moving into a kind of hip-hop/r&b style lately. would be cool to have a rapper on that part at 2:11 actually.

"with your side chaining"

i may have went nuts with the sidechaining i dont know lol, i got some new sidechaining software and its awesome so i might have over done it, but it sounds cool so oh well haha

thanks for the feedback buddy :)

An organic drum sounds like it might do the trick. If I can't get any of the ideas thrown out there to work, I'll try going with that. I have the same issue you had with the cymbal. For me, I have to use some sort of sweep effect or the track just sounds empty to me. Perhaps, trying out new ways will help me with the creative issues as its something new and gives me more to explore, and play with. If it doesn't help with the creative issues, I can always do what you suggested and try to give myself challenges to complete when making music. That should inspire me more.

Thanks for all of the help, Steve!
Will definitely give it a go.

Thanks Crue it was fun doing it. I think we need a genre called I dunno and another maybe called who cares?
Thanks for listening and commenting. Just come from listening to your latest upload and was caught bopping by the missus!

No its not Spam I Made A Mistake By Posting My Track Link On Other Tracks I Didnt Realise About The Spam Ok??Its Not Spam Spammity Spam!!!!!LOL***crucethus:(***

First and foremost thanks alot for the fav...means the world!:) I'm really glad you liked all those aspects of the song and I truly appreciate your friendly feedback !

All the best______Orlando

Hey Cru, thanks for checking out the track. I know what you mean on the vocals, I do this for fun/hobby. I wouldn't mind taking some vocal lessons but I don't really have time. I feel like I am still trying to find my voice, I think I am getting closer, but of course I still need way more practice. I think its harder to record my vocals with my headphones on as well, I get a good mix in my cans but it is still a bit awkward. The good thing at least is that I post on the internet and I can hide behind a fake name to cover up my pitch problems, lol. Thanks again for listening and the comments, always appreciated.

Kyle

This track beat Mora ? I can understand that I passed insane amount of time for Fiery Battle just to gave you a idea all together there are only 9406 notes.

Fun fact this track was originally to be a metal one but due to my metal guitar vst sounds dump. I used my my imagination to convert this in a cinematic track. Thats why the drums is a metal one and you can heard a bass (the only thing who do not sounds dump)

thanks for the fav and stay tuned for the other versions.

paix.

Maybe you are right but here on looperman there is only a Pop genre and that wouldn't fit really without a Dark in front :) (i think i have to ask Mr. Looperman himself for a Joe Cramer genre)
Nice to know that you liked it

All the best to you Cru
stay tuned
joe

thanks cru!

Brado

Cru, Many you are on point with your comments. The Minneapolis, Prince, JJ and TL, Human League all played a part in how I play. I didnt know that JJ and TL were a huge influence on your songwriting but glad to know that. I play by ear so I dont really know what chords I am playing but it sounds good to me :) The strings are 100% Prince style to me. I've been a little down every since Prince died and had to throw those mellotone violins\strings in this track in respect to Prince. Thanks Cru for your sharing you thoughts and comments. I'm amazed at music knowledge.

Ronabo

Thank you for the kind words man! I really enjoy creating this style of music so I think its time for me to release an EP of this kind of stuff. Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment!