Description : Intro hits hard. Heavy guitars and lots of different parts. Guitar, bass, 3 MIDI kits, a few loops, and a stretched outro that brings everything back down at the end. No synths, samples or anything not played by my fingers. Lots of quad-tracking heavy rhythm guitars. Peaks and valleys throughout, with a middle section that is very swampy in atmosphere. Over-driven bass guitars and cymbal-bells sprinkled hither and yon. Could add more,... could move on. I'm pretty happy with this one. Had to upload at 192. I invite your honest opinion and critique.
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That intro is much like app chaggi to the solar plexis, sans the hoo choo. Hits hard from the gun for sure. Really dig how you counter the aggression at mid point and mello it out a bit. But then back hard on the throttle again. A lot of interesting percussion in here but the guitars driving that hard groove and complementing ryhthms keeps it thick and interesting. Nicely depressurized outro too. Excellently produced track man.
Word up, my Missouri Methodist meth manufacturing multicellular monster.
Your last greeting was cool but you missed a small trick. If you'd ended on "globules" rather than "goblets" then you would have had "gl...gl...gl...gl". Not to worry as "goblet" is still a cool word.
I looked up salad shooters and now know what they are.
and think it's a good composition. For years, I've had mad ideas for complex stuff I could do with synths (audio too) if I had shitloads more processing power. Basically, loads of heavy, complex layering of shitloads of instruments, all morphing together and dropping in and out in complex ways. So, I'd do something called "hocketing" (sounds like an abbeviation of "hot pocketing") where I'd get one melody to be played by multiple instruments but with each instrument perhaps only playing one note in the sequence.
Maybe I'll be able to do a little more of this heavily complex stuff the next time I upgrade to a new PC. It's been 4 years since the last one so probably about time soon.
I wonder if the Slupergroupery will ever resume. All dependent on one guy, it seems.
You should get sliding again! I've hardly done any this year. Cello has dominated the last few months, but with good results.
2 nights ago, I went to see this utterly badass pair of cellists live in concert. Here they are rocking the shit out of a song you won't know. They're total virtuosos and rock as hard as the heaviest bands out there. I'm a million miles off their technical level. Press play and you will enjoy it.
This is a portal back to seventies for me ... I have long hair again!!
I have hair!!
Very nice guitar work.
Very nicely put together.
Lots of variation throughout this and it works.
This song is intense! I think I had two heartattacks and a stroke while listening. Couldn't handle the adrenaline. What did you use to record the guitars? Mic'd? CabClone? Direct in? Felt a little bit lacking in mids to my ears, but that is not a bad thing. Gives the track a sort of European sound to it. Great job as always my heart-attack-and-stroke-inducer Evan.
Recording was direct, using 5150 amp sim and Lepou cab sim with some nice impulse responses. Mids were shaped by the amp, and I took a bit more out to remove some horn-like frequencies. Gave a bit of a tape feel, and since I have no tape effect, I liked how it sounded.
Thank you, good sir, for the listen and the feedback.
"Dirty Euro" is ironic on the eve of the Brexit Vote, dontcha think!
I'm gonna use it in a sentence.
That sleazy FIFA executive paid that high class ho for a hand job in "Dirty Euros". Herself being from Wales asked instead to be paid in "slimy pounds".
"Salisbury steak was invented by an American physician, Dr. J. H. Salisbury (1823–1905), an early proponent of a low-carbohydrate diet for weight loss"
So instead of fading out the instruments, just slowly reduce the instruments measure by measure till you're left with percussion, that sometimes works better to get to an ambient feeling in the track.
Never heard of Salisbury Steak. But I do know that Salad-Shooters are guns for predominantly pacifist vegetarians. Being shot with lettuce is the equivalent of a gentle slap on the cheek though look out for some of those sharpened carrot bullets. They can really sting.
No problem regarding the misidentification. The desert shrub and hairy kayak barnacle are actually cross-species cousins. But they can never meet because of the barnacle's reverse cymbal screams. The shrub can't risk exposure to them.
Back to the track:
I think that your end section could either be a new track or should start this one. You may have opened up with the relatively weakest section, though it does get better.
You know I often do tracks containing heavy and chilled sections. However, I do also make ones with a real focus on chilling. I feel that your more chilled/steady grooving sections are some of your best so you might think about, for a change, not always mixing up heavy and chilled.
My instrument architecture knowledge is poor. I don't know what high output pickups are. I still don't even know why the active pickups on my bass g need a 9V battery to work.
"Recording four separate, yet identical tracks is a bit of a bitch."
No doubt but why stop at 4? How about 8? 64?
It seems like I might be getting intentionally ridiculous there but I have heard a composer's piece that featured about 4,000 guitarists all playing ( I think) the same thing.
Thanks for the dietary advice.
"What the fuck is a pence or a farthing? Are those things?"
Of course they are "things". I assume you mean do they still exist. Yes, though farthings are merely collectors' items as they have not been in circulation since about 1971. Pence is the plural of penny (100 of them in a pound, we still use them, not euros) but we normally just say "p" ie 50p. Our pennies are your cents, I believe.
"I've never been one to mix feet with pussies."
Fair enough but some ladies do enjoy a good toeing.
Nomad, who sold out long before you ever heard his name
Greetings, Gifter of Gargantuan Glittery & Glazed Glass Goblets. (...geeez)
Salisbury Steak is a bad cross between steak and meatloaf. Essentially a beef patty with brown gravy and a weeks supply of sodium.
A Salad Shooter is an object who's only function is to take up space in kitchen cabinets. Nothing else. The name is misleading.
"You may have opened up with the relatively weakest section"
Nowhere to go but up! I thought the beginning had more energy and felt more established than other parts. I like the beginning but an intro wouldn't hurt, I guess.
"I don't know what high output pickups are. I still don't even know why the active pickups on my bass g need a 9V battery to work."
High output pickups are stronger and are more sensitive than stock pickups. They but out a stronger signal. Like the difference with or without a Tube Screamer or OD. Your bass needs a 9v to work because you must have Humbucking pickups, like me. Are they humbuckers or single-coils? My bass takes a 9v for the Active 3-Band EQ. What bass do you have? Surely you've told me before.
" 4,000 guitarists all playing ( I think) the same thing."
Look up "Black Midi" on youtube. Wild Shit! Especially the one titled "Pi".
Dickin with a few track ideas, but nothing to even call a thought yet. I may go for a more chilled out feel.
Evan, treading so soft and lightly compromising my will, I am.
Wow just wow, this is an epic piece of music. I REALLY like the fact that most of it is made by your fingers and not by clicking a mouse. It is something I try to do as well, and I always happy to hear that others doing so too. Nothing against adding the odd electronioc stuff, or loop, but the majority should be "real". I read what the others wrote, it would be useless to more or less repeat what they wrote. In my opinion this is a very good song, and if it were mine I would be very proud of it.
No pussy footing around with the intro. Bam, in yo face!! I like the second or so of amp noise before it kicks in, little things like that give songs a live feel. The whole first part is blazing hot, plenty of guitars and the drums kick ass.
I must admit my favorite part is the ending section. Might even make a cool intro for the song. It has a dark western feel to me, which I like a lot.
I've never been one to mix feet with pussies. They don't seem to go together, but does partially explain why teenagers masturbate using a sock. I see the connection now, thank you.
Glad you liked the second half. Static turned me on to a stretching program and this is it's first excursion. It will make several more appearances, I'm sure.
Greetings from the undergrowth, world champion plant identifier.
Staticus Nomadicus* here, though I bet you weren't able to identify me.
Trrrrrrrrraaaccckk!!!!
Busy, banging early action but tiny swelling intro should be twice as long. Too tiny.
Initial riffs are decent but nothing special. Sound like they need vocals.
0:30 guitar is better and we get quite a bit of muscular doublekickery.
0:58 classic Bass Bro chimey guitar sound. Pretty melodic, as usual, and kind of like a vocal line.
Back to some more rocking shit to take us to the first breakdown.
2:00 sounds cool with clean, gently chugging g fiddle. You're good at that. Palm muting, I guess. Nice delay on it. Tiny bit like Another Brick In The Wall's main guitar.
2:09 nice little chord and bass g comes to the fore. Sticky percussion is busy and good (What's brown and sticky? A stick).
This chilled middle section is very good and I like the hats. A bit like some dance music.
3:45 great switch of that riff into heaviness. Maybe could do with an open hat to beef things up as you keep it same as before (closed).
Yes, 4:24 is a lot We Care A Lot, which is a good thing. At Looperman, We Care A Lot about The Bass Bro.
5:02 nice start of skilful fade out before we get to hear your stretchy shit.
5:32 that's very cool and apocalyptic. I'm assuming you've done as advised and taken previously heard parts from the track and had fun trimming (layering?) them in this stretchy section.
5:49 very cool little fill. Sounds like a synth.
More nice stretchy fadeout as clean g takes over plus a little reverse flourish before a very good end fade.
There you go, my review came 2 weeks early.
Nomad, carefully chooning his bee by ear.
*A rare, exotic and beautiful species of desert shrub, simultaneously stationary and itinerant. Resistant to brush hogging but quickly destroyed by repetitive reverse cymbals.
Sup, supplier of Samsonite suitcases storing Salisbury Steak and Salad-Shooters.
I mis-identified you. I thought the Staticus Nomadicus was a hairy, lichen-like barnacle found on kayaks and their paddles. Scraping them off amazingly makes the sound of a reversed cymbal, then the barnacle makes a high, muffled scream as it falls blindly back into the water. Quite comical to imagine.
I will take you suggestions on this one. Longer swell on the intro, and changing to open hats later on.
"I'm assuming you've done as advised and taken previously heard parts from the track and had fun trimming (layering?) them in this stretchy section."
Yes. The stretched section is a bit from 2:00 to around 2:30. Copied a bit and dropped it's octave and blended it with the original.
Enjoyed doing the heavy guitars here. My pickups aren't high output, so I use a tube screamer, then amp and cab simulation. Quad-tracking, panning one set 100% and the other 70%. Recording four separate, yet identical tracks is a bit of a bitch. Double duty from my double tracking. I've not used the MIDI controller in a while. I need to bust it out, (or really just take the dust cover off of it, since it sits just to the right of my computer screen on a music stand.).
You implied earlier that you were "mostly" well, or something to that effect. I hope you are feeling alright and are staying healthy. I'm on a water and Guinness cleanse. Big breakfast, then all liquids, all day. Supplements and a protein shake in the evening. Kicked beef and fell in love with some different veggie burgers. Kefir is a nice thing, as well. Anyway, I'm not a dietician, I just play one on Looperman.
Evan, beggin for your fatass, dirty Euro.*
*(or pound or whatever. I don't know jack about your currency. What the fuck is a pence or a farthing? Are those things?)
Intro gets right into it, love that. 1:02, nice clean g- sound nice slap verb. This one could use some vocals. 2:01 awesome breakdown. Sort of a cha cha cha beat here, nice. I think your swamp is very clean and not murky at all. Your melodic structures always carry this appalachian modal feel in your work. 3:556 heavy and reminded me of Cult of personality from In living colour for a moment. Shit and 4:26 reminded me of old old faith no more (We Care A lot).
Don't like the main fade so much at 5:03 and the bass following as you drip into ambient fields. It's like I walked into Bed Bath and Beyond and just accidently found the Beyond! But really intriguing song. It's definitely an Evisma song but more dimensional and new ideas which is cool to hear.
Good Work.
I appreciate the kind words about my swamp. You're a hell of a fella. It's not really muddy, but dark and crickety.
Appalachian is a comparison I've never heard before. I believe I mostly play in a harmonic minor pentatonic type scale. Never got into blues or jazz. Always stuck with minor rockish vibes. Played tuba in marching band but it doesn't translate here.
Never a fan of Faith No More, so hit YouTube to hear We Care A Lot. I hear a bit with the thumb slapped bass. Not the same vibe, but I get it.
Any suggestions on what is wrong with the fading transition? Your thoughts are always appreciated. Too sudden? Ill-fitting parts?
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.
Evan
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That intro is much like app chaggi to the solar plexis, sans the hoo choo. Hits hard from the gun for sure. Really dig how you counter the aggression at mid point and mello it out a bit. But then back hard on the throttle again. A lot of interesting percussion in here but the guitars driving that hard groove and complementing ryhthms keeps it thick and interesting. Nicely depressurized outro too. Excellently produced track man.
Your last greeting was cool but you missed a small trick. If you'd ended on "globules" rather than "goblets" then you would have had "gl...gl...gl...gl". Not to worry as "goblet" is still a cool word.
I looked up salad shooters and now know what they are.
Thanks for telling me about Black Midi as that's some cool stuff. I listened to Pi, The Song With 3.1415 Million Notes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ7ipUQoik8
and think it's a good composition. For years, I've had mad ideas for complex stuff I could do with synths (audio too) if I had shitloads more processing power. Basically, loads of heavy, complex layering of shitloads of instruments, all morphing together and dropping in and out in complex ways. So, I'd do something called "hocketing" (sounds like an abbeviation of "hot pocketing") where I'd get one melody to be played by multiple instruments but with each instrument perhaps only playing one note in the sequence.
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I wonder if the Slupergroupery will ever resume. All dependent on one guy, it seems.
You should get sliding again! I've hardly done any this year. Cello has dominated the last few months, but with good results.
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2CELLOS - Voodoo People [Live at Exit Festival]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Un3lK8ijw
Nomad, your deer in the headlights
I have hair!!
Very nice guitar work.
Very nicely put together.
Lots of variation throughout this and it works.
Like your 'non-compromise' attitude...play 'live' what you can is a special treasure here between the electro-trap-hip hop site...hats off...
Headbanging and waving in 4 different parts...the special bouquet is from the 1 minute mark...that is amazing...
Couldn't be criticism...this is a mega prog hit...:-)
Handshake, Danke
My style loves you back, but I don't think the two of you should meet. It would be quite awkward, me standing there as the two of you went at it.
That life is not for me.
The two of you should just be friends.
This song is intense! I think I had two heartattacks and a stroke while listening. Couldn't handle the adrenaline. What did you use to record the guitars? Mic'd? CabClone? Direct in? Felt a little bit lacking in mids to my ears, but that is not a bad thing. Gives the track a sort of European sound to it. Great job as always my heart-attack-and-stroke-inducer Evan.
Brado
Recording was direct, using 5150 amp sim and Lepou cab sim with some nice impulse responses. Mids were shaped by the amp, and I took a bit more out to remove some horn-like frequencies. Gave a bit of a tape feel, and since I have no tape effect, I liked how it sounded.
Thank you, good sir, for the listen and the feedback.
Evan
I'm gonna use it in a sentence.
That sleazy FIFA executive paid that high class ho for a hand job in "Dirty Euros". Herself being from Wales asked instead to be paid in "slimy pounds".
"Salisbury steak was invented by an American physician, Dr. J. H. Salisbury (1823–1905), an early proponent of a low-carbohydrate diet for weight loss"
So instead of fading out the instruments, just slowly reduce the instruments measure by measure till you're left with percussion, that sometimes works better to get to an ambient feeling in the track.
crulaundering
I will give it a go! Much appreciated.
Never heard of Salisbury Steak. But I do know that Salad-Shooters are guns for predominantly pacifist vegetarians. Being shot with lettuce is the equivalent of a gentle slap on the cheek though look out for some of those sharpened carrot bullets. They can really sting.
No problem regarding the misidentification. The desert shrub and hairy kayak barnacle are actually cross-species cousins. But they can never meet because of the barnacle's reverse cymbal screams. The shrub can't risk exposure to them.
Back to the track:
I think that your end section could either be a new track or should start this one. You may have opened up with the relatively weakest section, though it does get better.
You know I often do tracks containing heavy and chilled sections. However, I do also make ones with a real focus on chilling. I feel that your more chilled/steady grooving sections are some of your best so you might think about, for a change, not always mixing up heavy and chilled.
My instrument architecture knowledge is poor. I don't know what high output pickups are. I still don't even know why the active pickups on my bass g need a 9V battery to work.
"Recording four separate, yet identical tracks is a bit of a bitch."
No doubt but why stop at 4? How about 8? 64?
It seems like I might be getting intentionally ridiculous there but I have heard a composer's piece that featured about 4,000 guitarists all playing ( I think) the same thing.
Thanks for the dietary advice.
"What the fuck is a pence or a farthing? Are those things?"
Of course they are "things". I assume you mean do they still exist. Yes, though farthings are merely collectors' items as they have not been in circulation since about 1971. Pence is the plural of penny (100 of them in a pound, we still use them, not euros) but we normally just say "p" ie 50p. Our pennies are your cents, I believe.
"I've never been one to mix feet with pussies."
Fair enough but some ladies do enjoy a good toeing.
Nomad, who sold out long before you ever heard his name
Salisbury Steak is a bad cross between steak and meatloaf. Essentially a beef patty with brown gravy and a weeks supply of sodium.
A Salad Shooter is an object who's only function is to take up space in kitchen cabinets. Nothing else. The name is misleading.
"You may have opened up with the relatively weakest section"
Nowhere to go but up! I thought the beginning had more energy and felt more established than other parts. I like the beginning but an intro wouldn't hurt, I guess.
"I don't know what high output pickups are. I still don't even know why the active pickups on my bass g need a 9V battery to work."
High output pickups are stronger and are more sensitive than stock pickups. They but out a stronger signal. Like the difference with or without a Tube Screamer or OD. Your bass needs a 9v to work because you must have Humbucking pickups, like me. Are they humbuckers or single-coils? My bass takes a 9v for the Active 3-Band EQ. What bass do you have? Surely you've told me before.
" 4,000 guitarists all playing ( I think) the same thing."
Look up "Black Midi" on youtube. Wild Shit! Especially the one titled "Pi".
Dickin with a few track ideas, but nothing to even call a thought yet. I may go for a more chilled out feel.
Evan, treading so soft and lightly compromising my will, I am.
I'm glad you liked the track. I enjoyed making it, for the most part.
Yes, everything being played is how it should be. Granted, I did not keep any first takes. The riffs don't automatically come out without screw-ups.
I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment. Have a pleasant day.
Evan
I must admit my favorite part is the ending section. Might even make a cool intro for the song. It has a dark western feel to me, which I like a lot.
Well done Evan!
Wayne
I've never been one to mix feet with pussies. They don't seem to go together, but does partially explain why teenagers masturbate using a sock. I see the connection now, thank you.
Glad you liked the second half. Static turned me on to a stretching program and this is it's first excursion. It will make several more appearances, I'm sure.
Till next time, be good to yourself, and others.
Evan
Staticus Nomadicus* here, though I bet you weren't able to identify me.
Trrrrrrrrraaaccckk!!!!
Busy, banging early action but tiny swelling intro should be twice as long. Too tiny.
Initial riffs are decent but nothing special. Sound like they need vocals.
0:30 guitar is better and we get quite a bit of muscular doublekickery.
0:58 classic Bass Bro chimey guitar sound. Pretty melodic, as usual, and kind of like a vocal line.
Back to some more rocking shit to take us to the first breakdown.
2:00 sounds cool with clean, gently chugging g fiddle. You're good at that. Palm muting, I guess. Nice delay on it. Tiny bit like Another Brick In The Wall's main guitar.
2:09 nice little chord and bass g comes to the fore. Sticky percussion is busy and good (What's brown and sticky? A stick).
This chilled middle section is very good and I like the hats. A bit like some dance music.
3:45 great switch of that riff into heaviness. Maybe could do with an open hat to beef things up as you keep it same as before (closed).
Yes, 4:24 is a lot We Care A Lot, which is a good thing. At Looperman, We Care A Lot about The Bass Bro.
5:02 nice start of skilful fade out before we get to hear your stretchy shit.
5:32 that's very cool and apocalyptic. I'm assuming you've done as advised and taken previously heard parts from the track and had fun trimming (layering?) them in this stretchy section.
5:49 very cool little fill. Sounds like a synth.
More nice stretchy fadeout as clean g takes over plus a little reverse flourish before a very good end fade.
There you go, my review came 2 weeks early.
Nomad, carefully chooning his bee by ear.
*A rare, exotic and beautiful species of desert shrub, simultaneously stationary and itinerant. Resistant to brush hogging but quickly destroyed by repetitive reverse cymbals.
I mis-identified you. I thought the Staticus Nomadicus was a hairy, lichen-like barnacle found on kayaks and their paddles. Scraping them off amazingly makes the sound of a reversed cymbal, then the barnacle makes a high, muffled scream as it falls blindly back into the water. Quite comical to imagine.
I will take you suggestions on this one. Longer swell on the intro, and changing to open hats later on.
"I'm assuming you've done as advised and taken previously heard parts from the track and had fun trimming (layering?) them in this stretchy section."
Yes. The stretched section is a bit from 2:00 to around 2:30. Copied a bit and dropped it's octave and blended it with the original.
Enjoyed doing the heavy guitars here. My pickups aren't high output, so I use a tube screamer, then amp and cab simulation. Quad-tracking, panning one set 100% and the other 70%. Recording four separate, yet identical tracks is a bit of a bitch. Double duty from my double tracking. I've not used the MIDI controller in a while. I need to bust it out, (or really just take the dust cover off of it, since it sits just to the right of my computer screen on a music stand.).
You implied earlier that you were "mostly" well, or something to that effect. I hope you are feeling alright and are staying healthy. I'm on a water and Guinness cleanse. Big breakfast, then all liquids, all day. Supplements and a protein shake in the evening. Kicked beef and fell in love with some different veggie burgers. Kefir is a nice thing, as well. Anyway, I'm not a dietician, I just play one on Looperman.
Evan, beggin for your fatass, dirty Euro.*
*(or pound or whatever. I don't know jack about your currency. What the fuck is a pence or a farthing? Are those things?)
Don't like the main fade so much at 5:03 and the bass following as you drip into ambient fields. It's like I walked into Bed Bath and Beyond and just accidently found the Beyond! But really intriguing song. It's definitely an Evisma song but more dimensional and new ideas which is cool to hear.
Good Work.
Crubaby on Board!
I appreciate the kind words about my swamp. You're a hell of a fella. It's not really muddy, but dark and crickety.
Appalachian is a comparison I've never heard before. I believe I mostly play in a harmonic minor pentatonic type scale. Never got into blues or jazz. Always stuck with minor rockish vibes. Played tuba in marching band but it doesn't translate here.
Never a fan of Faith No More, so hit YouTube to hear We Care A Lot. I hear a bit with the thumb slapped bass. Not the same vibe, but I get it.
Any suggestions on what is wrong with the fading transition? Your thoughts are always appreciated. Too sudden? Ill-fitting parts?
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.
Evan