Hey Dave! Have to say the intro was great and captured my attention right away. Loved how all the parts flowed so smoothly, the transitions were smooooth. Nice job to both of you. Zappo and you work well together, you guys are on the same page for sure.
I have to comment specifically on the guitar, there is some very cool psychedelic guitar here around the 5:00 minute mark and after. Felt like a trip back to the 70's when jam rock ruled. The bass is sounding sweet as well.
The last couple minutes were a trip, really brought a smile to my face to see where you guys took this. Fav and dl, thanks for sharing!
Hey Wayne,thanks buddy..Zappo is definitely a great composer and like you I always love to hear his guitar playing,he obviously has a deep influence from the period you mentioned(unsurprisingly seeing as he's in our age group)...cheers mate be on your page soon. Dave :)
Great tune Scott, this brings me back a few years! The horns in the original are unbelievable, you did a great job with this version. I'm always watching all kinds of music on you tube and I'm always finding myself listening to 70's music, there was so much great stuff then this one being quite memorable.
Nicely done! Very cool guitar indeed. Totally digging the drums. Nothing more fun than cranking the amp up a few dbs!! I believe Billy Gibbons was on a recent episode of Live From Daryl's House(Daryl Hall) and performed a few of his classics. If you have some time check it out online, it is very cool. Gave this a few listens and gonna fav, well done!
I will definitely have to check out that episode. Billy's getting up there in age but can still play. Thanks for weighing in bro and YES, finally someone who likes the drums! Thanks a lot Wayne.
Very creative, ethereal piece of music. Nice description, helped set the scene. Great choice of instruments and well executed as far as composition. I love finding music like this to fall asleep to, it's so peaceful and calming.
Wayne, I'm so glad you liked this one..:)This is one of that kind of songs you never know who's gonna like it and who's gonna remain stone cold. Thank you so much for listening and for this lovely comment!:)
Hey Richie! Hope all is well. Sounds like you've been busy. This sounds great, nice singing by Lisa. There is an easy feeling to the mix, soft and gently. The piano stands out, very nice work.
Just listened to Spelljammer's version, two wonderful covers.
There are a lot of good ideas here, lots. I think the mix needs just some tlc.
I would cut back some of the limiting/compression. It is killing the dynamics of the song. There are so many cool things that need to sit back a bit further in the mix. They add a lot to the song. By using so much compression these things now are as loud as the most important parts of the song and they now interfere just a bit.
Great rhythm guitar rock based song. Big heavy chords lay a beefy foundation for the vocals. At least 3 different rhythm tracks that I can quickly pick out. They all have their place, nice mixing.
Great story song with personal lyrics. It rocks. That is always a good thing. Nice one Mark!
This is great, your vocals are strong, the music works with them perfectly. I listened closely to the vocals, there are some big delays and reverbs happening, that is very cool. Can't go wrong with Allen's guitar tracks, amazing is the word that always comes to mind. The song reminds me a bit of the Brand New Heavies a bit Well done!
Thank you Wayne for stopping by. Very attentive ear you have regarding the vocals. As you mentioned, I used delay, reverb, and doubled the vocal to give that, "SupaNatural" feel...lol.
I so appreciate your comments and will be stopping by your LooperPad to see what you are up to.
Very well constructed, sounds right from the time in the title. The synths are right on. Sweet guitar playing, you rock man! This sounds like something out of a 90's movie soundtrack. Everyone who took part in this did a great job.
Hey, sorry if you felt I was being dismissive of your track. Let me explain a little more to help you understand what I meant. I am referring to context. The big picture. Songwriting and composing. Whether experimental or not there are some things that can make or break a song idea. My analogy would be like putting an earth tone rug in a room with pastel colors painted on the wall. The bottom line is sometimes things don't work, no matter how much time and effort we put into that idea.
For instance, you listened to my latest song in which I used live instruments for the most part. I used a harmonica in places where the Bee Gees used harp or orchestration of some sort. If I had chose a saw synth instead of the harmonica, playing the exact notes and melody, would it fit in the context of the big picture of the song? Probably not. The choice of instrument would be too synthetic sounding and would certainly bring a few comments about using a saw synth in a song using live instruments from some of the loopers. I chose strings and a trombone vsti to back my live instruments. Those sound appropriate for the track. Once again, context within the big picture.
Just trying to help with some constructive criticism. I know there are a million ways to put music together and I certainly don't discourage experimentation. I was unaware the song was experimental. From the description I read it to be a major sound scape production of your scenario. I was just pointing out some things I noticed that stood out to me that could help with that production.
I am glad that we have our dialogue so we may have this open discussion regarding this track. Believe me (us) when I say that I take your feedback seriously, and give complete credence to each point you make. I was at no time angered, or upset, by your criticism regarding this track. My only concern was to be taken seriously as to the effort put forth by any projects done by me and/or MORTradio. Although I am humbled by many of the musical talent that resides on Looperman, I do nonetheless put for serious work when submitting to Looperman, if for any other reason, out of respect for them.
You have great experience and an exceptional talent, and therefore when you have something to say about my work I put forth on Looperman, I am definitely going to listen. As I said in my earlier comment, each of your points regarding this particular track were valid, and I took each one of them sincerely. Trial and error is the name of the game, and with each track, I hope to gain a bit more insight and knowledge from individuals such as yourself.
I will continue to enjoy your work and will always welcome all your advice and comments.
Interesting idea and blend of sounds, a bit all over the place. Not my usual listening style. I thought the track had some issues. Some sounds are random and a bit forced into the track like the vocal sample at 2:20 and the ooh aha vocals around 3:00. I would get rid of that guitar sound at the beginning, it's not real guitar and it doesn't really add anything to the track. The guitar transition at about 3:25 needs a little work to smooth it out. Maybe ease off the limiting to give things some breathing room.
The song really needs some focus, it is kinda all over the place. You have dance vocals in a rock song with an electronic feel. I don't know your history of music, you seem new here, this may be just a fun hobby. I tried to be constructive, hope it didn't come off as bashing your track. It is just a weird collection of loops that seems to work at some level, lol.
I (we) don't feel at all as though you were "bashing" the track that I submitted. You took the time to evaluate the track, and gave your input, which we could not thannk you enough for. Obviously, with your own personal background in music, your input is more than valid in its regards, and if I was to re-edit the track, I would definitely use your points in my notes regarding any re-working of this track.
Nonetheless, although your critical points are valid, I do feel as though you are dismissive of the entire track as though it was thrown together for shit and giggles, which was far from the case. It is experimental, that is for sure, and being experimental, there is always a chance that certain aspects of the track would not work. Perhaps the lack of focus comes from the cinematic editing mindset that I have during editing. Perhaps I look at musical loops as filmed scenes that can be edited together to get a character from point A to point B. I am not saying that is the right way to edit musical tracks, but it was how I was looking at it during the making of it.
On a side note, my history of music is limited to playing banjo (Gibson Mastertone) for approximately 20 years, and bass (Hofner Violin Bass) for about half that time. I wanted to learn guitar more (my biggest influence was Poison Ivy from The Cramps), but work seemed to suck up most of my time, so that fell to the waist side. Actually working with a computer audio mixer has only be about a year and a half. As far as joining the Looperman site, I am a noob (less than six months).
Anyway, enough of my long winded rambling. Again, thanks for your input and feedback, and for listening to the track.
I had to look up who Sandy Nelson was, pardon my ignorance but after listening you are correct sir. The drums do indeed have a similar style and are also very cool. I dig songs played using lots of toms. I love good old straight up blues based rock and roll. I want to sit in and jam, ha!
Ever hear of Hoyt Curtin? One thing he was known for doing was tv cartoon themes like Jonny Quest in the 60's. The drums totally rock in his music, you may like his music, figured I would suggest checking him out. Been listening to him a lot lately.
Not sure how ya got Ian Anderson to play some flute but that was a neat choice of instruments. ;) Was it live or a sample? Cool horns, guitar, keys and of course the drums were exceptional. The composition was as great as the execution on the production/playing.
Thanks for your most pleasant comment. I sure wish we could jam together. Although I do love making music digitally with my friends, I do miss live playing.
Sandy was a big inspiration for me. Not a great drummer, but he played allot of drums in his music, which, as a kid, I really liked. I looked for anything with drum solos. Hell, I literally wore out In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
I checked out Hoyt Curtin and, although I've heard his music for years, I never knew who he was. Really good stuff BTW.
Yeah, Ian and I are pretty tight, so he helps out on occasion. These were samples, unfortunately.
It doesn't take much to make me happy when it comes to music, nice, simple music with great lyrics. You seem to find a way to capture that essence of songwriting and exploit it for all it's worth. I am pretty envious of your lyric writing skills and singing abilities.
Such a wonderful track, love your singing, just beautiful!
Thank you :) Theres always hits and misses but as far as the lyrics for this one I think it turned out pretty good myself. I am really glad you had a listen :)
I love music like this, a well constructed track and everyone performing like professionals. Great addition with the clarinet. Mix is fantastic, I like the added percussion too.
We need more music like this here, keep 'em comin'!
Hey Alex, this is a cool rock track. I played bass with a drummer for a short time who played like the drum track you put together. He, like the track, was a solid rock drummer that could always throw a some kind of fill or change making the song so much more interesting. He never overplayed and it always fit the song. I like the drums here, they are interesting all the way through. Snappy snare too!
After hearing the intro I wasn't sure where the song would be heading. The theremin was a cool choice, not every day you hear that in a song. Real ones are reasonably priced actually. ha All the guitars and synths you used blend real well, plenty of space in the song but boy, there are a lot of things happening.
Well done to you and megapaul on the guitars, not sure who did what where but all of them were placed to mix well. You can do so much in the rock category, to me one of the most versatile genres. Always a pleasure Alex!
Firstly I am happy you liked the drumming. It's from EZ of course and it is some fine funk performance with lots of cool ghost/dead notes.
I think it fits perfectly Megapauls style which is extremly funky, here is the list of loops I used:
Some of them are played much faster though (the actual tempo is 110bpm). All the rest is me playing Roland synth.
I listened to all (over 200) Megapaul's loops and am so impressed of the quality of his guitar work.
For sure I will try do more in a rock area as I only used only a few of his loops here (which I downloaded earlier). I do not play guitars of course so I will always need someone to make them for me if the genre is anywhere close to rock. I guess this one is still more a funk-rock or simply fusion.
Thank you again for some nice words. Always appreciated!
Charlene has a great voice, strong and hauntingly beautiful at times. The instrumentation you added seems to tie it all together. Mix is solid, nice highs and lows and the vocals merge with the music seamlessly. Quite a change from the original, dig it!
Pretty cool track. A cool laid back easy groove, kinda hypnotic. The vocals add quite a bit. Mix sounds good, the effects you used, the reverbs and delays worked to give the song a big stereo feel. Must say this one works for me, well done!
Hi mate thanks for listening, Ableton live 7 is still throwing up little suprises for me regarding mixing and mastering, every time I find a new technique I want to go back and remix all my older tracks!
Sounds like the musical nut doesn't fall far from the tree in your family. ;) Both of you have solid vocals that work well with each other. The music track is great plus you fit the words, delivery and all perfectly together. Your vocals remind me of a cross between Axl Rose and Jon Bon Jovi, strong, original and excellent for rock ballads.
I bet you've been wearing that beret in your avatar a little more crooked these days homie. Sounds a bit like the old tv series Dragnet theme song at about 1:10, what is the significance of that? ;)
Very cool bass, nice runs at around 3:20, hot stuff. I believe once you understand music, the boundaries are limitless, genres blend and merge and one's personality and skill starts to come through. This is your interpretation of hip hop, more power to you Dave, it shows how talented and knowledgeable about music you are.
I hope someone bites on this and some vocals get put on.
Hey Wayne..thanks buddy,the vocal track is nearly completed care of Wordybum (who incidentally is the real deal when it comes to rapping) I'll be posting it shortly,actually that little Dragnet run is exactly the same riff as a Weather Report song I was listening to the other night but with totally different accents and sounds as spacey as hell(can't remember the name of it at the moment though! lol)..I have a feeling I'll be posting quite a few tunes in a quasi HipHop style...cheers mate Dave :)
Holy crap, this is a totally different song! This would be great to see you perform this live. Happy, upbeat, some great and interesting sounds that made me want to play this several times. The vocals fit the song perfectly. I love all the synth sounds, you created them?
Hello Wayne, and thank you for checking out the update! Really happy you enjoyed listening! This is definitely one of the songs I would consider adapting for live performance if I ever get to that point. It would of course be very different from this. I wrote most of the guitar parts before sunrise on that guitar I built, and they translated nicely to my epiphone les paul. Thank you for the compliment on the vocals too! As far as the synth sounds go, the electric piano sort of sound was manipulated from a preset to taste, and that little lead sound that plays through most of the song was from scratch on a VSTi. Other than a snare sample, the rest was designed on hardware stuff by me. Makes me happy that you liked it, and I appreciate your words!
I really enjoyed this track. Sounds like Peter, Bjorn and John with less guitars, they are great btw. I just listen to a great slow song here that started my day off relaxed then this one instigated the coffee I just drank. What a day I'm having, lol.
Great energy. I thought the bell in the middle and end could come down a bit, other than that I am digging it! Thanks for sharing, gonna dl this one!
thank you and really pleased you enjoyed....and you are having a good day, a little less coffee though!! Going so sort the bell too.
going to give Peter, Bjorn and John a listen.
thanks again Wayne,
best wishes,
Mark
This sounds fantastic TG. Even though I read the description the drums still surprised me. I was half expecting real drums from hearing the sweet guitars and bass. Thought the kick could have been a bit beefier but it's no biggie, probably more of a personal preference than anything being out of sorts. It def sounds like something from the 70's.
Yes my friend Omar: He did the bed track, so the drums are what
they are... :)...I didn't want to change the harmonics of the track
so I left it as is...
Dropped the Guitars in and tried to put them, in a good place in
the spectrum with just a touch of efx...Keeping it clean and simple...
I agree bass drum sounds strait out of a disco joint back in the 70's
Donna Summers would have loved this groove...Hahaha...
That is why I did a jazzy kinda thing with it, all though you can't hide the 70's in a track, you can try to do something else with it... :)
This seems more sideways now, the adds I've made puts it more
where I wanted it to be...
Thanks again for stopping in, glad you enjoyed it...
on Future in the Past by Planetjazzbass
I have to comment specifically on the guitar, there is some very cool psychedelic guitar here around the 5:00 minute mark and after. Felt like a trip back to the 70's when jam rock ruled. The bass is sounding sweet as well.
The last couple minutes were a trip, really brought a smile to my face to see where you guys took this. Fav and dl, thanks for sharing!
Cheers!
Wayne
on Pick Up The Pieces - AWB Cover by ScottB55
Well done Scott!
Wayne
Glad you like it and thanks for your comment.
I agree, the 70s and late 60s was my favorite time in music.
Cheers,
Scott
on Comanchera by Neomorpheus
Wayne
on The African Moon Lullaby - For Danke by Orlando51
You are back on a roll Orlando, great job!
Wayne
With much appreciation_______Orlando
on I cant make you love me featuring Lisa Worth by RichieWinn
Just listened to Spelljammer's version, two wonderful covers.
Cheers Richie and Lisa!
Wayne
Always good to hear from you and thanks for your kind words. Yes Lisa is a real talent - I'm so lucky. Piano is just a patch from Logic X.
Best
Richie
on Right There By Your Side by ChuckBaileyBand
I would cut back some of the limiting/compression. It is killing the dynamics of the song. There are so many cool things that need to sit back a bit further in the mix. They add a lot to the song. By using so much compression these things now are as loud as the most important parts of the song and they now interfere just a bit.
Just my 2 cents.
Wayne
on For A Little While by MWRatridge
Great story song with personal lyrics. It rocks. That is always a good thing. Nice one Mark!
Wayne
on SupaNatural Luv by Twanna1
Wayne
I so appreciate your comments and will be stopping by your LooperPad to see what you are up to.
Thanks again and have a blessed week.
Twanna
on My03 - Midiman007 - Stereophonic Sounds 80 and 90 by midiman007
Wayne
There was just two of us My03 also known as My05 on looperman and me Midiman007.
on Rosina Dead Vegas Trek by MORTradio
For instance, you listened to my latest song in which I used live instruments for the most part. I used a harmonica in places where the Bee Gees used harp or orchestration of some sort. If I had chose a saw synth instead of the harmonica, playing the exact notes and melody, would it fit in the context of the big picture of the song? Probably not. The choice of instrument would be too synthetic sounding and would certainly bring a few comments about using a saw synth in a song using live instruments from some of the loopers. I chose strings and a trombone vsti to back my live instruments. Those sound appropriate for the track. Once again, context within the big picture.
Just trying to help with some constructive criticism. I know there are a million ways to put music together and I certainly don't discourage experimentation. I was unaware the song was experimental. From the description I read it to be a major sound scape production of your scenario. I was just pointing out some things I noticed that stood out to me that could help with that production.
Hope this helps clarify my last post.
I would also love to get a banjo. Keep playing!
Wayne
You have great experience and an exceptional talent, and therefore when you have something to say about my work I put forth on Looperman, I am definitely going to listen. As I said in my earlier comment, each of your points regarding this particular track were valid, and I took each one of them sincerely. Trial and error is the name of the game, and with each track, I hope to gain a bit more insight and knowledge from individuals such as yourself.
I will continue to enjoy your work and will always welcome all your advice and comments.
on Rosina Dead Vegas Trek by MORTradio
The song really needs some focus, it is kinda all over the place. You have dance vocals in a rock song with an electronic feel. I don't know your history of music, you seem new here, this may be just a fun hobby. I tried to be constructive, hope it didn't come off as bashing your track. It is just a weird collection of loops that seems to work at some level, lol.
Wayne
Nonetheless, although your critical points are valid, I do feel as though you are dismissive of the entire track as though it was thrown together for shit and giggles, which was far from the case. It is experimental, that is for sure, and being experimental, there is always a chance that certain aspects of the track would not work. Perhaps the lack of focus comes from the cinematic editing mindset that I have during editing. Perhaps I look at musical loops as filmed scenes that can be edited together to get a character from point A to point B. I am not saying that is the right way to edit musical tracks, but it was how I was looking at it during the making of it.
On a side note, my history of music is limited to playing banjo (Gibson Mastertone) for approximately 20 years, and bass (Hofner Violin Bass) for about half that time. I wanted to learn guitar more (my biggest influence was Poison Ivy from The Cramps), but work seemed to suck up most of my time, so that fell to the waist side. Actually working with a computer audio mixer has only be about a year and a half. As far as joining the Looperman site, I am a noob (less than six months).
Anyway, enough of my long winded rambling. Again, thanks for your input and feedback, and for listening to the track.
on Sandys Beat by ScottB55
Ever hear of Hoyt Curtin? One thing he was known for doing was tv cartoon themes like Jonny Quest in the 60's. The drums totally rock in his music, you may like his music, figured I would suggest checking him out. Been listening to him a lot lately.
Not sure how ya got Ian Anderson to play some flute but that was a neat choice of instruments. ;) Was it live or a sample? Cool horns, guitar, keys and of course the drums were exceptional. The composition was as great as the execution on the production/playing.
Well done Scott and company!
Wayne
Thanks for your most pleasant comment. I sure wish we could jam together. Although I do love making music digitally with my friends, I do miss live playing.
Sandy was a big inspiration for me. Not a great drummer, but he played allot of drums in his music, which, as a kid, I really liked. I looked for anything with drum solos. Hell, I literally wore out In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
I checked out Hoyt Curtin and, although I've heard his music for years, I never knew who he was. Really good stuff BTW.
Yeah, Ian and I are pretty tight, so he helps out on occasion. These were samples, unfortunately.
Cheers,
Scott
on Tennessee Blues HipHop by ronabo
Wayne
Ronabo
on As the World Caves In by Cestevens1783
Such a wonderful track, love your singing, just beautiful!
Wayne
on The Way Side by Musicante
We need more music like this here, keep 'em comin'!
Wayne
So glad you like our track and took time out to leave your very kind words. I'm sure we will be adding more of our tracks for our Looperman friends.
Ciao,
M.
on secrets of resonance featuring megapaul by promenade2239
After hearing the intro I wasn't sure where the song would be heading. The theremin was a cool choice, not every day you hear that in a song. Real ones are reasonably priced actually. ha All the guitars and synths you used blend real well, plenty of space in the song but boy, there are a lot of things happening.
Well done to you and megapaul on the guitars, not sure who did what where but all of them were placed to mix well. You can do so much in the rock category, to me one of the most versatile genres. Always a pleasure Alex!
Wayne
Firstly I am happy you liked the drumming. It's from EZ of course and it is some fine funk performance with lots of cool ghost/dead notes.
I think it fits perfectly Megapauls style which is extremly funky, here is the list of loops I used:
Pills and Potatos:
http://www.looperman.com/loops/detail/80272/pills-and-potatos-85bpm-a-by-megapaul-free-85bpm-weird-electric-guitar-loop
Old Grapefruit:
http://www.looperman.com/loops/detail/72493/old-grapefruit-90bpm-a-guitar-solo-by-megapaul-free-90bpm-funk-electric-guitar-loop
Now I use DT Swiss:
http://www.looperman.com/loops/detail/72473/now-i-use-dt-swiss-65bpm-e-by-megapaul-free-65bpm-blues-electric-guitar-loop
Remember The Isolating Shoes D Solo:
http://www.looperman.com/loops/detail/68335/remember-the-isolating-shoes-90bpm-d-main-by-megapaul-free-90bpm-pop-electric-guitar-loop
Orange Pudel Solo:
http://www.looperman.com/loops/detail/61318/orange-pudel-solo-guitar-85bpm-by-megapaul-free-85bpm-reggae-electric-guitar-loop
Some of them are played much faster though (the actual tempo is 110bpm). All the rest is me playing Roland synth.
I listened to all (over 200) Megapaul's loops and am so impressed of the quality of his guitar work.
For sure I will try do more in a rock area as I only used only a few of his loops here (which I downloaded earlier). I do not play guitars of course so I will always need someone to make them for me if the genre is anywhere close to rock. I guess this one is still more a funk-rock or simply fusion.
Thank you again for some nice words. Always appreciated!
Best to you, Alex
on Just Because ft Charlene Stevens by aelmen
Wayne
Did you know she is singing right into the mic on her computer? Talent!
/Anders
on Full Moon---remix by zappo
Wayne
many thanks for comment this ...i have it mixing new ...
on Running nowhere by smallpaul
Wayne
on We Are Never Alone - Like You by cyberbugBOB
Quite an enjoyable listen.
Wayne
on Used to be HIPHOP by Planetjazzbass
Very cool bass, nice runs at around 3:20, hot stuff. I believe once you understand music, the boundaries are limitless, genres blend and merge and one's personality and skill starts to come through. This is your interpretation of hip hop, more power to you Dave, it shows how talented and knowledgeable about music you are.
I hope someone bites on this and some vocals get put on.
Take care Dave, always a pleasure!
Wayne
on Stealth Matriculation Vocal Mix by Spivkurl
File this under the genre Spivkurl, nice one man!
Wayne
on kinetic lift by larrywiggles1
on kinetic lift by larrywiggles1
Great energy. I thought the bell in the middle and end could come down a bit, other than that I am digging it! Thanks for sharing, gonna dl this one!
Wayne
thank you and really pleased you enjoyed....and you are having a good day, a little less coffee though!! Going so sort the bell too.
going to give Peter, Bjorn and John a listen.
thanks again Wayne,
best wishes,
Mark
on T45-Omar-Soundhound Project by soundhound
Wayne
Glad you like it...
Yes my friend Omar: He did the bed track, so the drums are what
they are... :)...I didn't want to change the harmonics of the track
so I left it as is...
Dropped the Guitars in and tried to put them, in a good place in
the spectrum with just a touch of efx...Keeping it clean and simple...
I agree bass drum sounds strait out of a disco joint back in the 70's
Donna Summers would have loved this groove...Hahaha...
That is why I did a jazzy kinda thing with it, all though you can't hide the 70's in a track, you can try to do something else with it... :)
This seems more sideways now, the adds I've made puts it more
where I wanted it to be...
Thanks again for stopping in, glad you enjoyed it...
Peace...TG.