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27th Mar 2018 12:02 - 6 years ago
Description : I tried to make a 'doom cello' track but failed as the chillout vibes really took over but there is still some heaviness as well as a few minutes of dance music in the final sections. It's very moody and atmospheric and dominated by strings and drums. 120BPM but most of it is half that tempo. Lots of my electric cello playing though there are also sample-based string parts, especially the foreboding, drone bass - the only bass instrument in the track. Other pad sounds add some mystical, spacey beauty while an arpeggiated VST guitar instrument adds a progressive band feel in the first half. Drums are two programmed kits and mostly one hard rock/metal kit. Also one drum loop plus two music loops towards the end. I very rarely use music loops but they seem to work here. Let me know what you think of this progressive epic. Sorry it's so long but hopefully it justifies its length. It's definitely far out and difficult to place in any particular, obvious genre.

Comments (10)

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topvega
topvega 3rd Oct 2018 23:31 - 5 years ago
I always dig your stuff Brosef. No exception here. Love the slow intro build up. My only critique would be I feel the drums are too low in the mix.

Nice track regardless.

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Festivaltiger
Festivaltiger 23rd Jul 2018 10:40 - 5 years ago
Like all your stuff man - keep up the good work ! :-)
ValveDriver
ValveDriver 26th Apr 2018 03:51 - 6 years ago
Ok. I know. It took forever to get back. But I didn't forget. So...here goes.

The slow droning intro definitely sets a darker mood. The pads that come in around 1:00 almost give it a hopeful sound. Which, really, is good.

Nice subdued percussion that gives it a nice forward movement. It keeps it from stagnating.

2:48 Is that a guitar with some pitch bending effects? I like it.

Now the percussion speeds up. Only to nearly drop off completely. This is a cool little, almost minimal section. The distorted, sustained guitar in the background is a good addition.

5:08 Those low tones are looowww. Very ominous. I'm digging them. What effects did you use to give them an almost vocal quality? Is that a phaser of some sort?

Not a whole lot of changes. At least, not drastic ones. They're subtle enough to keep it moving without getting boring. 6:28- complete drop off of the percussion. Good job.

7:32- picking up the pace just a touch with those drums.

A litle layering with the snares. Sounds good.

9:09- I would have liked to hear the drums pick even more. Not a lot, but enough to give it a little more "cruising speed." Maybe just more cymbals, rides, and hats to fill in some blank spaces. But, that's just personal preference. It's just fine the way it is.

Overall, it does have a great chillout vibe. It's fairly dark in comparison to what you normally do, so you accomplished what you set out for on that note. But as far as being a dark, or "doom" track as a whole, not entirely. Either way, it's good to see that, even with your recent musical frustrations, you've still come through and put out another quality track.

Good work, my friend.

Take care Mister.
StaticNomad
StaticNomad replied 30th Apr 2018 - 6 years ago
Regreetings, Monsieur le conducteur des valves.

Well done for not forgetting to return. It only took a couple of weeks – a short forever.

Yeah, nice, ominous intro and then it gets a bit brighter and warmer. I’d rather it were darker but I really struggled in general with that intro after the first 20 or so seconds.

“Nice subdued percussion” is just a basic, minimal Metal Machine kit groove, plus some occasional nice ride fills and stuff before it goes heavier.

“2:48 Is that a guitar with some pitch bending effects?”

It’s a VST guitar part that is being driven by an arpeggiator. I do some pitch bending and automate the amount of distortion, plus a couple of other effects.

“This is a cool little, almost minimal section. The distorted, sustained guitar in the background is a good addition.”

Yeah, the track comes down into a chillout version of what has just been going on. So, I take most of the distortion off the VST guitar plus add some new cello parts.

“5:08 Those low tones are looowww.”

As already stated, I only have one bass instrument in the whole track – a sample-based string sound. Probably a double bass. I have a bunch of effects on it and vary them to give different sections different moods. It’s always got delay on it but I add a filter to give it more of a subdued sound during some chillout sections. And boost the low end when necessary. I don’t think there’s a phaser though it’s possible.

“6:28- complete drop off of the percussion. Good job.”

Indeed. I’m too often guilty of not having any drum breaks in my tracks, as has been pointed out by a few people over the years. I’m a bit drum and groove obsessed so don’t always find these drumless sections easy but they do help break the track up a bit.

“7:32- picking up the pace just a touch with those drums.”

Yes, double time drums begin. The track is 120BPM but the drums play at half tempo until that point. Then I try to turn the track into something like dance music.

“9:09- I would have liked to hear the drums pick even more.”

I’m adding in quite a few metal fills, plus a dance music drum loop. I think perhaps you want them heavier or something. I initially wanted this end section to be heavier but I’ve gone for more restrained and smooth rather than badass.

“as far as being a dark, or "doom" track as a whole, not entirely.”

Agreed. Dark and evil doesn’t come easily to me. I must not have your blackened soul or something. If you’d made this, there would be a much more evil vibe but I struggle with that, generally tending towards more beauty and smooth grooving. My attempts at dark and evil often sound discordant whereas more regular sounding notes seem to make more sense and are more pleasing so I just go with that.

Thanks for the thoughts. I still have huge musical frustrations and limitations and am making stuff much slower these days.

Static SlowMad
DJoJD
DJoJD 6th Apr 2018 14:04 - 6 years ago
cool song a bit dark I like it !
StaticNomad
StaticNomad replied 9th Apr 2018 - 6 years ago
Thanks.

Yes, it is a bit dark. But only a bit.
ValveDriver
ValveDriver 5th Apr 2018 06:56 - 6 years ago
So, I gave this a listen. It was good. Really good. I’m currently hauling steel and driving valves, so I can’t leave a proper review worthy of the track at the moment. I want to listen to it a few more times before I really dig in. I’ll finish up the job I’m On right now, then I’ll be back.

Later, gator.
StaticNomad
StaticNomad replied 5th Apr 2018 - 6 years ago
Word up, steel hauling valvedriver. Great to hear you thought it was really good.

You finish up your metalwork and let me know your magical thoughts. Dig in. Dig deep.

Later, crater excavator.
silverman
silverman 31st Mar 2018 17:16 - 6 years ago
Very powerful and very dark.
I love your love affair with your cello.
Everything comes and goes in the right places.
Pretty much flawless I'm thinking.
StaticNomad
StaticNomad replied 2nd Apr 2018 - 6 years ago
This certainly didn’t feel flawless when making it as I had to spend so long listening over and over again, hoping for new ideas and riffs. It seemed like it would never be finished so I was happy to finally do so. It’s the opposite of a properly composed and live played piece. I just work on small sections at a time and then mix and automate as I go, hoping for new ideas to pop up as I listen back. Just as well some eventually came.

I doubt I’ll ever make a flawless track but I’m happy for anyone else to feel so. And say so.

Thanks for the words.
silverman
silverman 30th Mar 2018 15:04 - 6 years ago
Only jumped through it at the moment as it's so long.Very dark!
I'll be back.
StaticNomad
StaticNomad replied 2nd Apr 2018 - 6 years ago
Hello, GoldWoman.

It is indeed rather long though only a bit dark. Nothing too aggressive or discordant. More beauty than I was going for but that’s OK.
Neomorpheus
Neomorpheus 30th Mar 2018 06:14 - 6 years ago
Having almost given you up for dead, I'm extremely happy to once again see your familiar avatar appear among the list of new submissions. Have been checking in here 2 or 3 times a week for months now and no sign of the StaticBromad. Had me worried for a bit. I think you pulled a Clapton on us tho ! Even though there is little doubt that this is pure SN, I have got to agree with some of the others that there is something fresh here.
It does exude a considerable amount of dark mood as you had intended, not sure if I would label it Doom. I don't get any fearful or ominous vibes. To me its more mystical, or strangely unnerving. And I think that's a better or more interesting quality actually. The intro is perfect in the way it pulls us into the track with the tonal drones. The sound is deep and full and far reaching. Very soothing. As the drums come in, the swells continue to drone on along with some very tasteful orchestration that builds some nice intensity. I'm liking this a lot already. The drums sound really good. I especially like the kit you've chosen. The snare is tight but not too tight. Good amount of toms and double bass work and again very tasteful. No overplayed super speed stuff. I Like the wide panning on the cymbals. I cant believe how f'n cool this vst guitar track is! Its like some crazy whammy bar distortion delayed glitch thing. That's brilliant !! I'm digging that shit for sure ! Cello is totally amazing in this bro. You could literally put me in a trance with this. You got command of this instrument and its a beautiful thing. I don't know what the hell else I can say here man, other than this track is pretty goddamn epic. I listened to it over and over many times !!!! This enters the charts well within the top 10 StaticNomad tracks for me and could very well be on its way to el numero uno ! Fantastico effort my friend. I hope you don't get in the habit of the disappearing acts, BUT if this is what we can expect upon your return, well then its worth the wait. And hey I just realized this thing is 11 minutes long ! HA HA, never thought I would say it but....its too damn short !!!
StaticNomad
StaticNomad replied 2nd Apr 2018 - 6 years ago
Poor old NeoMorphinBro, desperately looking for a new bit of Nomad and continually being frustrated. Until, one day in March 2018, The God Unknown heard about his situation and delivered Neo a new Nomad track. It’s not the real Nomad but a track this mysterious God cooked up in half an hour to satisfy the Nomad’s biggest fan.

What’s pulling a Clapton? Is that taking a break from music for a few years to be a heroin addict? No, I didn’t do that – I’ve just mostly run out of creativity and riffs and stuff. Which, as a musician, can be a bit of a problem.

“not sure if I would label it Doom”

I agree. I tried and failed to make doom cello. I’d be happy if I‘d managed to add some short evil sections, or even just fills, here and there. Something a lot darker and perhaps more discordant adn atonal than what I have here. But I failed as I sort of don’t know how and am generally constricted by my desire to seek out beauty and melody. You probably could have added some tasty, evil bits of guitar. And/or a proper solo.

“To me its more mystical, or strangely unnerving. And I think that's a better or more interesting quality actually.”

I don’t know if it’s better. Mystical isn’t too difficult for me but dark and evil without being offputting is more difficult for me to achieve so would be more pleasing to accomplish.

“I especially like the kit you've chosen.”

That’s John Tempesta’s Superior Drummer kit called Metal Machine. You must know him – excellent drummer from White Zombie. I’ve used it in loads of tracks.

“I cant believe how f'n cool this vst guitar track is!”

Don’t believe it as I only think it’s decent. But I’m a bit jaded after listening to it thousands of times and struggling to automate it to get it to move vaguely how I wanted.

“Its like some crazy whammy bar distortion delayed glitch thing.”

I guess that was me automating the pitch, plus something else. It’s a VST guitar being driven by an arpeggiator in Reason.

“Cello is totally amazing”

It’s pretty good but you may have been confused by what is and isn’t cello. Some strings are programmed, for instance the only bass sound used here, which plays throughout. There are various periods with no cello at all.

“I hope you don't get in the habit of the disappearing acts”

I am firmly in the habit, so to speak. Just because it’s taking longer to make a track these days due to my lack of ideas. My output has slowed down so much, which is somewhat distressing to me but I’m trying not to let it get me down.

“its too damn short”

I don’t agree though I could easily have made it longer.

Thanks for the kind words, high praise and interesting reflections.

Disappearing Nomad
crucethus
crucethus 28th Mar 2018 06:51 - 6 years ago
Raw Unfettered sound and emotion. Long gone is optimism and heroic sounds, but we are left with sadness sorrow and melancholy but with a restraint. This is the rawest sounds I have heard you produce in such a fashion perhaps ever. This is your Primal scream therapy. At 3:55 you sound as if you are just toying with us sonically. There is a a lot familiar melodically and sonically from you but so much new in this dark deviant sound you have created. I for one love this, this is now in my area of darkness and doom musically. A nice re-entry back into the fragmented world of looperman. 9:15 you are touching upon dark sounds. 9;40 sounds a stringed instrument used as a percussion sound, that is just simply awesome. Some nice double bass drums used tastefully throughout, and then I like the sudden ending.
Well done .
cru
StaticNomad
StaticNomad replied 29th Mar 2018 - 6 years ago
Godly greetings, Cru Diddley.

A very rare favourite from you. Praise indeed.

“sadness sorrow and melancholy”

Perhaps those but I heard it as more mystical power when making the track. I was probably fairly emotionless when making it so it didn’t feel like “Raw Unfettered sound and emotion” when playing or programming the track. I was just working with a slow tempo and emotive string and pad sounds. I was trying to make slow doom music but the mystical beauty took over, which wasn’t my intention. I tried to make it heavier but failed.

“At 3:55 you sound as if you are just toying with us sonically.”

Not sure what you mean. That’s the chillout faux g section where I keep that arpeggiated guitar VST from the previous heavy section going but with much lighter distortion.

“so much new in this dark deviant sound you have created”

The main new element is that delayed, droning, buzzy string bass sound that plays almost throughout.

“9:15 you are touching upon dark sounds.”

Yes, now we’re properly into the final, dance music end section and things are more uptempo and fun. Not mystical and brooding.

“9;40 sounds a stringed instrument used as a percussion sound”

That’s one of two music samples used here. Just one short riff from some clangy sort of stringed instrument (not sure what) that I find rather funky the way I’ve used it. Very percussive.

“Some nice double bass drums used tastefully throughout”

Well I am using a metal drum kit so I can’t help doing some double bass drumming, at various points. It’s good fun!

Thanks for the thoughts and I’m happy to give you a “nice re-entry back into the fragmented world of looperman.”

Godly Nomad
DrvanLansberg
DrvanLansberg 27th Mar 2018 21:19 - 6 years ago
Just typed a very extensive reply, hit post and forget I got cookies disabled and therefor was logged out. Post gone...

Anyway, a shortened version: This was some amazing trip. Took me to a whole different dimension for way over 10 minutes. I listened whit my eyes closed and I could recommend doing so to others as well. It's simply an amazing composition (not track, but composition) which shows your skills.

As for the technical part, there might be a few minor things that I would have done differently myself. Love the drumtrack, maybe a little bit extra reverb to match the synths. I am curious for what you have used to make this composition. Expecially as for these reversed sounds.

Anyway, magical 11 minutes dear Static!
StaticNomad
StaticNomad replied 28th Mar 2018 - 6 years ago
Hello.

It’s a shame I can’t read your extensive reply but not to worry. It’s best to type your replies in a separate document and then copy and paste to Looperman.

I’m glad to hear I took you on an amazing trip to a whole different dimension. That’s my aim. I’m really not much of a composer. I just loop riffs and parts up and then jam over the top and extensively edit and see what comes out. I’m not really sure that’s composition in the proper sense. I only have a vague idea where I’m going when I start a track and fully expect interesting and unexpected things to happen along the way as I try out all sorts of sounds and moods.

Maybe I’ll try adding a bit of reverb to the drums though I quite like how clear and present they are. Not dry, as that wouldn’t suit the spacey vibe, but not overly booming and reverb heavy.

“I am curious for what you have used to make this composition. Expecially as for these reversed sounds.”

Since 2001, I’ve used Reason and Cubase in conjunction ie each track is made up of a Reason and Cubase file that run as one. Synths are mostly from Reason and audio recordings are all in Cubase though my drum VSTs (Superior Drummer) also run in Cubase. The only recorded audio here is electric cello. Everything else is programmed synths and drums, plus a couple of samples.

The reversed sounds (they’re not actually that obvious to me) are simply a reverse reverb setting on the reverb units on a few synths in Reason. No reversed cello parts though I do sometimes do that.

The only bass sound in this is a sample-based orchestral string sound that I really like. It’s quite noisy, which is effective a lot of the time. When I don’t want it to be so noisy, I just add a filter that takes the edge off it. Plus EQing the top end.

Any other setup questions, just ask and I will tell.

I’m now working on another track based on leftover parts from this one though it will probably take a while to finish. I’m aiming for it to be just chilled out and beautiful rather than dark, ominous and sometimes heavy.

Thanks for the appreciation.

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