Description : the dead can not only dance, no, they can also make very good music ....

somewhere in the barren wide swamp landscape.
The death turns merciless the wheel of life .
And at night, in the sparkle of the pale moon,
gather his victims to sing on the old cemetery their song.
Gloomy sounds floating through the fog and tell us about past times
Bass guitar, lead and rhythm guitars (homemade cigar box guitars) played by Burt.
Synths, vocals, mixing and mastering by Joe Cramer.

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  1. PsychoArtzz
    PsychoArtzz on Thu 16th May 2019 - 3 months ago

    Nice song, I like it

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks a lot for your comment PsychoArtzz.
    Always good to know that others like what we have done and also good to know that there are people around who listen also to older tracks.

    stay tuned
    joe

  2. damonb
    damonb on Mon 25th Mar 2019 - 4 months ago

    in the computer generation grunge dosnt have as many listeners as tryers lot try and just don't get it your special you guys got it

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks a lot for your friendly words damonb. And the best is that we didn't tried to do something in the style off or from or so, we just did it and at the end it was something cool

    stay tuned
    joe

  3. damonb
    damonb on Mon 25th Mar 2019 - 4 months ago

    grunge bassicaly came from niel young

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    What song?

  4. damonb
    damonb on Mon 25th Mar 2019 - 4 months ago

    dude its not a nerdy thing if you want the people who enjoy listening to your stuf you have too put the yellew pages out make it easy for them to find you a good song can be lost inwrong genres susposed this was in rap you have an 0.5% audeience in grunge you have your whole audience that understands this

  5. damonb
    damonb on Sat 23rd Feb 2019 - 5 months ago

    yea lot people think pearl jam nirvana when grunge but there is so many shades of it like meat puppets pond neros rome daisy chainsaw wich sounds like punk too a tee but is labled grunge Orangutang like pond more melodic grunge screeming trees so many more all a difernt shade of the grunge sound

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Yeah, so maybe Joe&Burt are just another grunge band :)
    And that makes, in a way, sense, cause Burt comes from metal and rock and doom stuff and me from punk and wave and ebm stuff.
    But last and not least it's all just music. Best is just to listen and then you/me/others like what they hear or not. I really cant understand it when people are only focus on a genre, cause it separates to much :)

    stay tuned
    joe

  6. damonb
    damonb on Sat 23rd Feb 2019 - 5 months ago

    no joe I was saying grunge in excitement no its very good love the volcals makes tune sound so kool

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks a lot damonb for your your friendly words. I bet Burt also like them.
    And i wasn't thinking that you didn't like it, i am just really bad in finding the right genre for my own music. So all is good for sure.

    stay tuned
    joe

  7. damonb
    damonb on Fri 22nd Feb 2019 - 5 months ago

    GRUNGE

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    I was and will never be good in genres. Maybe you are right and it's more grunge then Rnb but in fact it doesn't change the music at all :) and the music is maybe a bit to soft for real grunge but grunge sounds good so i changed it to grunge ….

    stay tuned
    joe

  8. centralsdev
    centralsdev on Sat 27th Oct 2018 - 9 months ago

    hi good to see you are back on looperman i have miss your music :)
    i can see you didnt made anything new. we should make a song together soon or later :)

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Hey centralsdev. Long time not seen you. Good to know that you didn't stop making music at all. I did and do making stuff but last times i have not that much time to finish things and so on …. family man things :) …..

    I am always open for some collabs. So if you have an idea or some cool loops or stuff - just tell/send me and we will see what happend

    stay tuned
    joe

  9. BobsHouseParty
    BobsHouseParty on Sat 27th Oct 2018 - 9 months ago

    Just beautiful,

    Turn that cymbal DOWN!

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks a lot for your friendly comment. Good to know that you think that this one is a beautiful song.
    I never had a problem with that cymbal jet. You are the first one who said that it is to loud.
    Maybe the dead drummer was not 100% there :)

    stay tuned
    joe

  10. Burtsbluesboxes
    Burtsbluesboxes on Mon 4th Apr 2016 - 3 years ago

    Cigar box anonymous only makes it worse ;) http://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/hi-i-m-insert-name-here-and-i-can-t-stop-building-cbgs?xg_source=activity
    I got my violin bridges the other day, still waiting on tuners, kind of at a stand still until those arrive along with the weather sucking lately! (I have to cut and sand outside) I'm going to build a 4 string guitar cello, I guess you call it hahaha It'll be the 4 low strings from a guitar set at an arch like a cello and played with a bow, that should make some nice gloomy music :p After we use up all 9 lives do we get 9 more? That's great people feel better after this doom and gloom! I've got to do some funeral doom with a cbg. I'll send more your way soon, got to keep Beyond the Sky album growing.

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    I wonder whatkind of music we will do next.
    Still waiting for some cool new sounds from your cool new CBG's to make some cool new music ....

    stay tuned
    joe

  11. TeeGee1965
    TeeGee1965 on Mon 4th Apr 2016 - 3 years ago

    I listened to both versions, I think I prefer this version. I can't understand the words, it is more like an instrument.Some sort of Mantra. I really like this, and those swamp slide sounds. Very very cool blues track, well done both of you!

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks a lot for your friendly comment TeeGee1965
    Nice to hear that you could enjoy our little swamp slide blues like song.
    One of eth reasons why i didn't changed the version here on looperman was that i also like this bit more muddy sound. But there are still listener who prefer a version with some little bit cleaner vocals. So now everyone can listen to the version he likes :)

    stay tuned
    joe

  12. theHumps
    theHumps on Mon 4th Apr 2016 - 3 years ago

    My life suddenly seems great after listening to the march of the doom and gloom brothers. ;) Kinda spooky and dark, your description was good! Sounds like Burt is going to need cigar box anonymous soon.

    Gloom Rock LIVES!!!

    Wayne

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thank you Wayne for your time you invest into listening and for your friendly words.
    Burt is so creative since he startet to make one cbg after the other :) so don't stop him until we finished our album :)
    His cbg's have so a nice kind of sound like he recorded them in a small, abandoned hut, somewhere in the deep swamp. Just a gloomy sound like from another world :)

    stay tuned
    joe

  13. OViea91
    OViea91 on Sun 3rd Apr 2016 - 3 years ago

    nice job. you know. i dont think i needed to understand the vocalist because the muddiness on the vocals add to the haunting, yet light feel of the track. nice

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks OViea91 for this nice comment
    Good to know that you could enjoy this track just the way it is.

    stay tuned
    joe

  14. DJSLTUK
    DJSLTUK on Sat 2nd Apr 2016 - 3 years ago

    Ahh, the deep rnb sounds from 6 deep...its amazing you still put out even after 9 lives:)

    Very soothing and found myself sitting back as if I was mixing at an open air festival with you guys onstage as it has that nice side show appeal to it. nice use of effects on the vox and sweet guitars thru this artwork.

    As always Joe, awesomeness and fav from me although kinda of jealous you still can sprout great tunes when 6 deep:)

    Kindest regards,

    DJ-SLT-UK

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks for the friendly comment SLT

    I would certainly enjoy it if we would do together on a open air festival something :)

    To be honest, i don't used much effects on the vocals. Just a little reverb and some micro pitching and only some EQ to filter out the noise that i recorded :) .... i just sung it that way. But i spend a lot of time on mastering the instruments and finding cool effects and filters and stuff for each steem .....
    The guitars are really cool played by Burt.

    I am really glad that someone like you give us a fav. That means a lot to me, cause i really respect your work as a musician and sound engineer

    stay tuned
    joe

  15. crucethus
    crucethus on Fri 1st Apr 2016 - 3 years ago

    Gloomy and melancholic but in almost a afterparty kind of way. Hypnotic and psychedelic in like a quaaluded version of Roxy Music. I had to fav it. I just was compelled to fav.
    Cru

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Oh, thanks a lot Cru. I bet that Burt will be same happy then me to read this nice and friendly comment.
    Good to hear that this little track compelled you to give us the favor of a fav.
    And you are right, in a way it IS a afterparty song :)

    stay tuned
    joe

  16. lechina
    lechina on Thu 31st Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Nice groove right here.The drums are great asset in this track.The vocal however is too deep to be heard,well unless it was done deliberately.overall not too bad.

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    I made a different version with much more clear vocals, cause i had the same feeling that they are much to muddy/low and others also said that. So i uploaded a wav file with the better sound to soundcloud. You can find the link in the description.
    Thanks a lot for the comment and the time you take yourself to listen to our track.

    stay tuned
    joe

  17. Metabolic
    Metabolic on Thu 31st Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Oh damn.. That takes me to a place I've forgotten.. Something about the vocals I can't place.. A beautiful composition.. Such good music on the loop at the moment, keep it up guys!

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks Metabolic for your friendly words.
    Maybe you find the place again if you listen once more to this track :)

    I did a lot of collaboration with Burt right now. So lets see when the next hit comes out :)

    stay tuned
    joe

  18. 15ludwicke
    15ludwicke on Wed 30th Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Loving the atmosphere here! Before even reading the description I knew what you were going for, which is a testament to the production! Great use of haunting vocals as well. Loving everything about this track. :)

    Enrico L.

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks Enrico for your gentle words.
    Good to know that this little track work.
    Burt did a great job with his CBG's and the bass, so it was in a way easy for me to do the synth's and vocals.

    stay tuned
    joe

  19. mudhoen
    mudhoen on Tue 29th Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Joe, you have done it again. Your unique style blended with some good old rock guitar. It is dark, it is sweet in a lakritze kind of way and it sound great as a whole. Nice work. For sure Burt wont be buthurt about this fun track!

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Hello mudhoen
    When i listen to this track it isn't easy for me to get this "joe Cramer" thing, but if you think it has this "feeling" then it sure will have it in a way :)
    Burt saíd he likes the mix i did with all his great stuff. So you are righ that he isn't buthurted at all

    Thanks for your comment and the time for listen

    stay tuned
    joe

  20. silverman
    silverman on Sun 27th Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Brilliant.
    Takes me back to eighties moments with New Order and the Hacienda club in Manchester NoRth West of England.
    gREAT ATMOSPHERIC STUFF THIS AND TODAY i Think I will get the chance to have a full listen to your reverbnation stuff.
    Nice work Joe.

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    I hope you could enjoy this extreme collection on reverb :)
    I know that i should sort it a bit more out but there is really mostly all from the very beginning (1984) to now (2016)

    Nice to see that you could enjoy at least this track again.
    So thanks again for the listen and the comment

    stay tuned
    joe

  21. zachvenus
    zachvenus on Fri 25th Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    thanks for responding, i like the interaction, please make more stuff like this! Not sure where your influences are but my god it works man!

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Burton and me did some more stuff and have a kind of an album on reverbnation called - Burt and Joe behind the sky - maybe you will find something that you like
    https://www.reverbnation.com/joecramer/album/117064-joe-and-burt-behind-the-sky

    All other stuff from me you can find there also and sure the most newer tracks also here on looperman.

    I am also not really sure where my influences came from but some of them sure from the 80' and from dark wave, ebm, punk, ndw .... :)

    stay tuned
    joe

  22. zachvenus
    zachvenus on Thu 24th Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Very Tasty and dark, a twisted and sweet blend of melancholy, Great work

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Hey zachvenus
    Nice to read that you liked our work.
    Thanks for the time that you invest into listen and writing this friendly comment. I couldn't say it better then you done it. "Very Tasty and dark, a twisted and sweet blend of melancholy" Thats fits!

    stay tuned
    joe

  23. Orlando51
    Orlando51 on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Famous zombie lads at work again...great collab Joe...such a nice creepy scene...Might be true what Silverman wonders
    that the Devil has the best music !:) Faved !:)

    Compliments to both_____Orlando

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thanks for your comment and the fav Orlando.
    No zombies around here this time but the death had done his work .... i wonder why all believe that the devil is in the house :) ... ok it's a bit gloomy and dark and creepy but ....
    Nice to know that you like what we have done
    I am sure Burt will also be happy about your words

    stay tuned
    joe

  24. Burtsbluesboxes
    Burtsbluesboxes on Tue 22nd Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Yaay! Another Cat \(^._.^) Wasn't it you that did a song for the LZA sometimes they come back, well.... Then I shot you when you turned hahaha. So many tracks could be linked together in a huge story from these stories. We need a good video maker to make us a movie. I think I shared the Bayou Blues stems with you, and have more blues in various stages as well as more coming almost daily, I'll share too. Google translate sucks, I couldn't write a description in another language if one of my 9 lives depended on it. I think Brado's description nailed it with the dreamy surreal feeling. It's kind of like seeing the world from the other side of the veil. You should've hunted down the devil and stole his fiddle made of gold! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RUg-NkjY4 Always a pleasure Joe. Dan asked for a country type tune, that's how this came about. I still want to try photo shopping those braids onto him LOL!LOL!! Hoping to make my own violin/fiddle soon. Looked up rosin for the bow string, very cheap, as well as the materials I can't scavenge. I just need to select a box.

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    You know that i already made this "head movie" for the LZA.
    Maybe we should start a new "movie" about dark and deadly things ..... and you are right, a videomaker would be a cool thing.

    I still love the blues and will soon start working on something. Lets see what you have for me.

    I dont know why but i am sure that playing Violine will not be that easy then playing a cbg ..... but blame me and show me what kind of cool Violine player you are :)
    Dan will looking awesome with that braids
    Our Burt and Joe behind the sky album get filled up with lot of different things man. I really enjoy this collabs with you

    stay tuned
    joe

    BTW i had this golden Violine already in my hands but it is much to heavy to handle it in a good way. So i gave it back and got a new handfull of lifes for it ..... :)

  25. TinyFinger
    TinyFinger on Tue 22nd Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Hi. Good stuff man.

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Thank you TinyFinger for your friendly comment and the time you invest into listen to our song.

    stay tuned
    joe

  26. silverman
    silverman on Tue 22nd Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Sorry to hear you're dead Joe but the music still sounds good.
    Is it true the Devil has the best music?

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    I am like a cat :)
    Once i am dead i just take one of the left life's i have.
    And sure it is true, cause you know that the Devil owns all the things you need for good music - sex and drugs and rock'n roll :) ..... ok, i am a little liar cause i only was dead but i didn't meet some of the "big bosses" there. Maybe they only chill out with you when you stay a little longer.

    Good to read that you think the music sounds good.

    stay tuned
    joe

  27. BradoSanz
    BradoSanz on Tue 22nd Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Definitely gloomy but the guitar really has a unique sound to it that really sets the emotion :D Really feels like the dead are playing the song haha. The way the song kinda swings in and out of time really adds that dreamy, preternatural element to the song. Great number!

    Cheers,

    Brado

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    Hello Brado.
    Thanks for your friendly words. I bet Burt enjoys them same as me. Always good to know that we did not disappointed you with our work :)

    stay tuned
    joe

  28. Burtsbluesboxes
    Burtsbluesboxes on Tue 22nd Mar 2016 - 3 years ago

    Excellent Joe :D This was a fun one, bit gloomy, but fun :D I love the whole atmosphere and the description sets the scene so nice! I love rich music like this, really transports you there into the scene. Here's to many more! :D

    joecramer
    Reply by joecramer

    I couldn't done it without your great steems Burt!
    Nice to know that you think that the track works.
    It is always a pleasure to collab with you on some cool music. To write a good description in english isn't easy for me and google translate isn't a real help :). So i am happy to read that you think the description fits.

    Maybe now it's the time to do this blues number ... if not another song comes in the row :)

    stay tuned
    joe

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Once - by Joe Cramer

once, i had a life
once, i felt so great
once, i had some good times
but now i am dead

once, i was on the highway
once, i was in love
once, i could fly
but now i am dead

once, i was someone
once, i felt so strong
once, i changed the whole world
but now i am dead

once, i was a human
once, i believed in truth
once, i thought i am normal
but now i am dead

 


 

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