Eyes Run Aground - Evisma
21st Nov 2016 05:23 - 9 years ago
Description : UPDATED 12-5-16. An acoustic intro, leading into melodic piano leads with strings and woodwinds. Many layers of programmed midi drums and percussion loops. Some heavier riffage with an odd time signature, leading into something completely different. First track I've done in standard-ish tuning in years. Been distracted by various things and haven't been working on this steady. Thoughts, complaints, critiques, ideas and interesting short stories are always welcome. You can also say you liked it. That's cool, too,.... so long as you ain't bullshittin.
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"don't knock the pull-out"
Good point. I thought about going with "vag vacationing visigoth" and "vag vanquishing visigoth" but decided that "vacating" better suited your considerate personality. How considerate of me. Anyway, who wants to vanquish vag? That would no doubt put it out of action. Better to keep it fully functioning. And not overflowing with babies.
OK, you ungrateful wretch, I will take back Killing My Good Times and turn it into a Nomad masterpiece.
"We'll discuss this further elsewhere."
Damn, it sounds like you might actually put something up for Slupergroupery collaborations. An offering to The Vulv.
Great to hear you're enjoying Superior. "EZX does not have all the mic bleeds and striker options". Is that so? I guess there have to be some differences though I have a couple of SDXs (Roots and Sticks) that have fewer drums than some of my EZXs.
I'll tell you another time about two things I find really annoying about Superior (maybe you have found a solution) but for now will give you a Progressive suggestion.
So, you've worked out that you can add additional drums using X drums though you can't alter the processing of that new drum. So, if you add a second snare, I think its output channel is the same as the initial snare. As you've only got one main kit that you're really going to enjoy (Progressive), I suggest loading a few instances of it into Studio One, giving each some different processing. This will give you a much larger range of drums sounds. You could use one kit for the verse, another for the chorus (yes, I know we don't exactly make verse-chorus-verse music).
I rarely alter the pitch of any of my individual drums but don't forget that that option is always there, as is the envelope, so you can get, for instance, shorter or longer snares.
Finally: it's a mild shame that you didn't get EZ 2 as the GUI for each kit is really cool. They're rather basic and boring in Superior (but still pretty cool). It's fun watching that kit actually play away when it plays back a MIDI file, isn't it?
Progressive Nomad, smelling your lie through the smoke and arrogance
Yes, but I had 2 X-drum snares that I put on different trigger keys, making 3 separate snares you can trigger together, separate or in pairs, creating 6 or so different options, just giving me a new way to go.
I've used pitch on crashes and a snare. Only minimally, though. It gets a bit stupid sounding going too far.
This time the acoustic opening reminds me on Metallica, but only briefly and then piano starts raising the temperature
and after a minute and 3 quarters we're in full energetic motion...lots of interesting and effective changes along the way and splendid guitar work. One of your best moments for sure, but then again they're all well worth listening!
Compliments____Orlando
Always good to hear how you receive a new track. Glad you liked this one! Sorry for the delayed response. I appreciate you dropping in for a listen.
Take care.
Evan
I'm really impressed with the production on this. You have always shown excellent skills in playing and composing but your really getting too good! Have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the acoustic intro. Awesome articulation there bro and and I dig the subtle delays that are timed just perfectly. I differ from sford because the piano accompanyment is in my opinion the icing on this cake. I had to re-play it 4 or 5 times before listening to the rest of the song. Sorry. Quite honestly it's fairly easy to work up a few riffs, throw some chords together, pipe it through some effects, drop in some bass and drums and viola. I'm always more impressed musically with lyrical composition than anything else. Lyrical in the sense of the artistically beautiful or expressive quality of a piece. Having said that I don't mean to understate the rest of this track. I really dig it as well. I think you and I both have similar interest in the more technical structures so I'm definitely grooving on your time signature and poly rhythmic stuff here. And yeah I'm still trying to decode the subliminal message contained in that outro! Very intellectual but also a lot of fun.
Glad you liked the acoustic intro. I don't memorize how to play my songs, but some guitar lines stay with you. I liked this one.
I like the piano lines I write, but not my piano sound, really. I'll be looking into EZKeys at some point.
Ah, yes. The track went to heavier stuff because I really like using contrast as a way to make up for having no vocals to listen to and follow.
Very kind and generous words from you, good sir. I thank you.
Take care.
Evan
It's always awesome, (and surprising) when you like a track of mine. I've never worked or jawed with other bass players, so it's nice when a bass purist gives a thumbs-up.
Not a lot of bass going on here. I've been putting it more in the background as I learn to work-in new elements. My track "Basso Continuo" is nothing but bass guitar. I'll unhide it incase you get a wild hair and give it a listen.
Programmed drums in this track till the heavy section. Those are loops from here. I'll have to do some digging and give credit. Learned a long time ago not to change the names on loops.
Thanks for stopping in, Dave, and I hope everything is going well for you on your side and hemisphere of our spinning, watery rock.
....and sorry for Trump. I voted the other way. I truly hope the shockwave of lunacy doesn't reach you. And if it doesn't, we may become neighbors. I'll buy myself a ticket quicker than it takes to grab a pu**y.
Evan
Is this the tricky track that you had to display your authority over? If so, you did well, my friend.
I'm amazed at how far you've come since we were new here. To be completely honest, I think you've far outgrown any suggestions I may have. So, I'll just sit back and listen to it again, and enjoy it for what it is. Amazing work, brother.
I dig the transition into the heavier section.
I think the only thing I hear that's not quite right, is the levels on the lead in the last section. But Static already touched on that, so there's no need for me to go into it further. Other than that, the mixing is spot on, and crystal clear. It is kind of interesting to listen to one of your tracks where the bass isn't up front and center in the mix. (so to speak). But, even so, it's presence is still known, and unapologetically so.
I told the ladies that I was in The Vulv. They just looked at me with a disgusted look on their face. Then I told them what it was. It changed nothing. They just asked about the other two guys. So, I went home and fed my dog, ate some frozen pizza and binge watched Brooklyn nine nine until I crashed out on the couch.
Alright, man. I have to agree with Steve. This is quite possibly your best work. At least of that which I've heard, anyhow.
Catch ya on the flip side.
I read your response to Steve about the vocal/percussive part you did and it's pretty effective and interesting. Curious as to how you tune normally if not in standard tuning?
Wayne
I appreciate the kind words. As for tuning, I'm usually Drop C sharp. Everything down a half step, then my low E string down another whole step, so the E goes down 3 frets, everything else, 1. I have to use heavier Guage strings and aggressive truss bar adjustment.
Peas.
Evan
You've mixed all the acoustic phrases so wonderfully that the song feels like it's breathing. Then the piano glides in and adds an extra shimmer to the airiness of the intro.
For me, the first 2 minutes sound like a lost track from Metallica's Master of Puppets. The light and the heavy parts blend seamlessly, driving the song forward and allowing new motifs to unfold. Then the final part brings in that funky bass and the track becomes it's own sound as it struts into the outro. We are left in silence to wonder 'WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED!?". Then we hit 'play' again and all is good :)
(I think this means I liked it)
TA
I'm glad to hear you liked this track. It became a pretty big pain in my ass for a while. Im not happy with the lead tone in the ending section, but I'm ready to move on the different things.
Thanks for the feedback.
Evan
lovely acoustic intro that builds with Piano. smart arranging and composing. Your bass is mixed perfectly in the rear of the mix. I know it´s there but it´s not overwhelming, nice work. Then we build nicely into the harder heavier section. Again all the elements are working here. I like the time sig changes as well. 2:56 caught my attention, nice reverse into that section. what sounds like claps are interesting. Also nice ending as well, de-constructed well. Evan this is your best work in my opinion. High marks for composition, mixing, arranging, instrument choices. just good all around. fav
Steve (The Canadian who watched the Simpsons episode in 2000 and listened then and got out ;-))
Gotta say, I spent so long getting this one done that your comment made my day. Yes, mixing the bass to the background is new for me, but I have to lay off all the bass layers. I can't listen to a lot of my older stuff. Mudville.
"book-a-tick-a, back-a-tick-a" is what you're hearing as claps. I have the mic at the ready all the time, but rarely use it.
Thanks again for the kind words.
Evan