Red On The White - ValveDriver

11th Jan 2015 06:13 - 11 years ago
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Description : This track was like the inhale after an exhale of aggressive industrial-electro-sludge tracks that I had put out that summer and fall. This was the more reserved, and introspective winter track. It's nothing spectacular, but I still really enjoy it. I hope you do too. Take care. V.

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DanMed
DanMed 13th Mar 2025 13:14 - 1 year ago
I like vintage vibe to it. Good job!
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 13th Mar 2025 - 1 year ago
Thank you.
fanisatt
fanisatt 13th Mar 2025 06:37 - 1 year ago
I enjoy it too !!! Very nice !!
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 13th Mar 2025 - 1 year ago
Thank you.
AnthonyAttard
AnthonyAttard 11th Mar 2025 15:45 - 1 year ago
I too think your song is mostly a rock piece. There are of course elements of other music styles that give this psychedelic color which fit really well.
A very good listen.
Best regards, Anthony
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 12th Mar 2025 - 1 year ago
Thank you, Anthony. I appreciate you taking the time to listen, and to comment.
Take care.
V.
Dennel
Dennel 9th Mar 2025 17:15 - 1 year ago
Wow! This is very good, I agree with VintageNights post. Very introspective in feel, steady and almost hypnotic in it's delivery, the intro and outro was befitting for such a track. Great job,

D
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 10th Mar 2025 - 1 year ago
Dennel, thanks, man. It's good to know that 10 years later it still holds up.
I appreciate the time you took to listen and comment.
Take care.
V.
Kayos2
Kayos2 8th Mar 2025 20:19 - 1 year ago
I disagree - thiis IS spectacular - a real rock/psychedelic/progressive soundscape Kay0s
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 10th Mar 2025 - 1 year ago
Thank you Kay. I appreciate that.
Take care.
V.
ClickbaitCabaret
ClickbaitCabaret 30th Jul 2023 01:20 - 3 years ago
Pretty spectacular stuff. Definite prog rock vibe. Fantastic job.
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 30th Jul 2023 - 3 years ago
Thanks, man. I appreciate it. At the time, it was a different area for me. Most of my stuff then was some kind of electro-sludge-digi-metal type thing. I'm glad you liked it.

Take care.
V.
dimestop
dimestop 30th Jul 2023 00:56 - 3 years ago
Aaron this might be an old track to you, but it was before my time so its new to me.
excellent production mate sound quality is fantastic. the guitars are screaming hot, great bass, great keys the organ tone is spot on, the drums are rock solid too, the intro was brill and the outro had class stamped on it, top work.
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 30th Jul 2023 - 3 years ago
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I originally posted it in 2013, (I think.). It doesn't seem like it's been a decade, but...here we are!
BananaLu
BananaLu 4th Sep 2021 11:23 - 5 years ago
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Boon
Boon 9th Jan 2021 03:18 - 5 years ago
wow, brilliant track very much in the vain of some of my favourite sounds, great progression and build up, good work.
BONEZONMARZ
BONEZONMARZ 15th Dec 2020 20:09 - 5 years ago
This reminds me of Alan Hawkshaw.. a great instrumentalist. Hope you take that as a compliment
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 2nd Jan 2021 - 5 years ago
BONEZ, man, I am sorry for the late reply. It's been a mad house around here over the holidays. My apologies.

I can't say that I've ever heard of Alan Hackshaw, but if this track reminds you of him, then he's probably someone I would like. I will check him out.
I always take it as a compliment when someone tells me my work reminds me of a big name.

Hey man, thanks for the listen, and the kind words. I appreciate it.

Take care.
V.
Zootman
Zootman 14th Dec 2020 08:44 - 5 years ago
Sublime, especially the middle section. If that's you playing the guitar then respect!
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 14th Dec 2020 - 5 years ago
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Take care.
V.
DirtyDeeds0867
DirtyDeeds0867 3rd Dec 2020 19:24 - 5 years ago
Really nice sound man..Keep it up
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 7th Dec 2020 - 5 years ago
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Maybe it's time I revisited this style. It's been a long time since I've made this one, or one like it.

Take care.
V.
Festivaltiger
Festivaltiger 26th Jul 2018 11:28 - 8 years ago
Wow !!!
I've only recently joined the Looperman community and it's really inspiring to hear what you guys are doing. I'm a bedroom guitarist who enjoys playing along to these tracks. You've really nailed the PF sound on this one. I tried soloing over the top but in the end realised it didn't need my guitar as I was cluttering it up. Its spot on as it is. Really impressed. Well done and thanks.
HenryPascal
HenryPascal 16th May 2018 15:37 - 8 years ago
Oh gosh.... lemme download this please! It's a trip that makes me sung something un-sense in Matt Bellamy's style! :D
nicetones101
nicetones101 15th Apr 2017 21:29 - 9 years ago
Hey Valvedriver

Nice mellow track.Nice work,I really enjoyed it.
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 6th Mar 2015 00:42 - 11 years ago
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DanGoldstein
DanGoldstein 2nd Mar 2015 12:33 - 11 years ago
i love how everything developed at the beginning into the main groove at 1:21. very patient, organic development. the solo works and effects are very cool. sometimes I strive for a bit more transparency. that is vague I know but maybe it gives you a clue for further improvements. nice work! Dan
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 24th Mar 2015 - 11 years ago
Dan, thanks for the listen. Sorry for the extremely late reply. Life gets busy sometimes, ya know?

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I enjoyed making it, too.

I will keep your suggestions in mind, thank you!

Take care.
V.
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 10th Feb 2015 21:52 - 11 years ago
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GalanticMusic
GalanticMusic 24th Jan 2015 11:59 - 11 years ago
NICE ONE!!
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 25th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Thank you!
crucethus
crucethus 24th Jan 2015 02:08 - 11 years ago
Beginning has a foreboding feel, then the pads kick in and I feel a Floyd vibe kicking in. Some where between Meddle and Dark side this would fit. I also am channelling a bit Pete Bardens as well. The Mix spatially is fantastic my friend. 4:00 the long slow phased pitch bent solo sound is cool. The subtle piano is not to be overlooked as well.
What eighteen said about the wineglass, I think he meant when you rub your fingers around the lip of the glass you get that deep hollow square wave flute sound which is like a pad in some ways and you have a similar sound in there as well. You sir have without a shadow of a doubt upgraded your game with this one. I look forward to hearing your creative output over the next few weeks.
Cru
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 25th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Crucethus. What's happpnin' man?

Pete Bardens, believe it or not, doesn't ring a bell at the moment. Which now is even more incentive to look him up.

Thanks for clearing up the wineglass thing. Once you said that, it made sense. He's probably talking about the higher chime-like sound.

"You sir have without a shadow of a doubt upgraded your game with this one."

Which is a good thing, except now I have to work harder to top it. I guess I'll put out a few "sketchbook" tracks until I find the next one that steps it up.

Thanks for stoppin' by, mister. As always, I enjoy your visits.

Take care.
Aaron
soundhound
soundhound 24th Jan 2015 01:51 - 11 years ago
Everybody has said all I'm going to say about this track except, it's a
solid piece of work...Almost a chill about the track...
A Graveyard thing comes to mind,*@**## wipe that out of mind right
now...LOL

Cool tough stuff Man...

Peace...TG.
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 25th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
TG, how are you? Good, I hope.

There is a bit of a chill to it, isn't there? That's just how I like 'em.

Thanks for stopping by, and for the kind words.

Take care.
V.
OdotZED
OdotZED 24th Jan 2015 00:58 - 11 years ago
Man..this is so good..and sounds real clean..been a while since i heard your stuff..
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 25th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Odot. I'm glad you liked it. Thank you.

I've got stuff posted. Some better than others. You're always welcome to listen!

Take care.
V.
FreeRadical
FreeRadical 19th Jan 2015 10:34 - 11 years ago
Sounds great, It sounds very pink floydish and it's been beautifully arranged. I'm hearing some great stuff on this site at the moment and this is definitely up there with the best. Really like what you've done with every part of it, that wailing synth is great with excellent wobbly effects. I hear something like this and it's so good it makes me think i should just give up lol.
Totally different from what i'm used to hearing from you and it shows you're a force to be reckoned with.
Cracking track!!!!
FR
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 21st Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Wow, man! That's probably one of the best comments I've received here. It's not only good because it's nice to receive such kind words, but also because it makes me set my own bar higher.
Dude, I hope you don't give up! What you do is pretty awesome. Just in a different arena. Just today I was telling my wife how you have the ability to consistently make 10 minute tracks that never get boring or monotonous, and each one is completely different from the last. That's pretty impressive, man.

"...a force to be reckoned with"

I'm not gonna lie. I like the way that sounds. lol But, it's like I said in my original profile page..."I'm not trying to get famous. I'm trying to get good" That's it, man. My only goal. It seems to be working. Very slowly, but I'm learning.

I'm glad you liked this one as much as you did, and I definitely appreciate what you had to say.

Take care, mister.
Aaron.
StrikingDaggers
StrikingDaggers 19th Jan 2015 02:55 - 11 years ago
Great track ValVedriVer! I loved the atmosphere that you created with this. I also really liked the organ and the guitar. It's very trippy overall. The mix sounds solid too. Thanks for posting, it was such an enjoyable listen. This one's a Fav. Truly nice work.
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 19th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Shatner, Thanks, man!

I'm glad you liked this one. It's not my usual style, so it was definitely a learning experience. One of the good kinds, ya know?

Thanks for the kind words and for the Fav. Both are greatly appreciated.

Take care.
V.
DeLaBeatz
DeLaBeatz 19th Jan 2015 02:42 - 11 years ago
Very space like. I enjoyed it, good work!
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 19th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Take care.
V.
topvega
topvega 15th Jan 2015 01:04 - 11 years ago
Solid Track with a definite Floyd vibe running all through it.
Nice job.

tv
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 16th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
TV. Thanks, man. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

It's not often that you comment on my work, but when you do, I appreciate it.

Take care.
V,
Eighteen
Eighteen 15th Jan 2015 00:31 - 11 years ago
wow, the wineglass sound ( I dunno what to call it),
really gets to me, the ambiance it gives,
totally gets me hypnotised when listening xD.

the guitar is also really great, the solo and the weird sounds so every now and then.

Overall a very relaxed track, very nice to listen to

Cheers!!

~Eighteen
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 16th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Eighteen, how are you?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "wineglass sound", but it seems to be a good thing, so thank you!

I'm glad you liked the tune.

Take care.
V.
Evisma
Evisma 12th Jan 2015 07:02 - 11 years ago
Floyd yes. I hear "Sheep" in the beginning.

The drums sound like they were played in a parking garage. Seem to have a good bit of reverb. I do like!

2:42 tone is trippy as hell. This one seems to show more real composing. I dig this deeply. Also reminds me a bit of late Rishloo, off Feathergun.

Favorited!

Evan
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 14th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Evan, what's happnin', man?

I dig the fact that it resembles Floyd, but at the same time, It does feel kind of like a ripoff. That wasn't my intent, but...

I did use a quite a bit of reverb on the drums. Actually, I used quite a bit on all of it, really.

I haven't heard of Feathergun. But given your musical tastes, I'm sure they're good, and I will definitely be looking into them.

Thanks for the kindness, brother.
Take care.
Aaron.
promenade2239
promenade2239 12th Jan 2015 06:48 - 11 years ago
hi. Yes, that organ sound and use of reverb effect remind PF for sure but I was thinking about Tangerine Dream when listening to your song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aOHeg3XitM Everything here sounds really fine and I enjoyed a kind of a cinematic ambience in the background. If I will be looking for any improvements for track like this definitely I'd recommend to work more on the composition itself: chord progression, more variations on bassline, guitar solo part melodic structure etc. than really on a sound-image. It doesn't mean that something is missing here at all of course, quite the opposite: the track does sound very realistic and you did a great jod composing and arranging all the stuff.
Really nice song, the rock genre works well. I enjoyed the music. Thanks, Alex
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 14th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Alex, hello.

I can always count on a tactfully honest review from you. You will be glad to know that your suggestions for improvement are all things already on my list. I've just recently started learning these things. So, basically, this is the first stepping stone on my long trip to becoming a real musician. Ya know?

Thanks for taking the time, mister.
Take care.
V.
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 12th Jan 2015 02:33 - 11 years ago
Oh Man...What have you done here...this is beaming in from far above anything I have listened to lately (and that listening seldom involves a radio)...wheather or not you intended it...Your brain has soaked up the whole Floyd vibe...the force is with you Aaron...I was going to hit the download button but its not there (I totally understand why)...This is a version of ValVedriVer I really like...and while the more usual you does a lot of great mixes...this one is stellar man....comes with big emotion...a ton of feeling....(oh love that organ bit too)...but you likely know I`m a Floyd fan..... ..awesome.....definite fav from this ol boy.....Ed
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 14th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Ed, sorry for the late reply. Between work, family and flu, I haven't been much use to anyone lately.

First, thanks for the outstanding comment!

I'm kind of in the process of taking music a little more seriously. Like, actually trying to learn. I'm hoping that in the future, I'll be able to put out more like this one, but with more of the "ValveDriver" signature, and not so much the Pink Floyd resemblance.

Also, I'm sending Danke a copy of this. If you want, contact me here, I'll send one your way as well.

Thanks again for the encouraging words, Ed. It's always a pleasure when you stop by.

Take care.
Aaron.
Neomorpheus
Neomorpheus 12th Jan 2015 01:11 - 11 years ago
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3rdNippleMusic
3rdNippleMusic 12th Jan 2015 00:28 - 11 years ago
top notch intro man, especially when the bass comes in to lead us to floydian musings.. ahhh, soothing.

I kinda wish I could chill tf out like this myself... hah

ahhh, no more comments, just listened...
hah, thanks for that.
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 12th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Thanks, man!

"I kinda wish I could chill tf out like this myself..."

It's not a common thing for me to do. Most of my work is pretty dark, angry or aggressive. But every now and then, I just need to put it in neutral and coast awhile, ya know?

Thanks for taking a listen, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Take care.
V.
BigPete
BigPete 11th Jan 2015 18:07 - 11 years ago
totally Pink Floydest, and very well done, love the mood created and the musical journey you take us on. Great arrangements, everything gels to perfection, great job.
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 12th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Thanks, Pete.

I'm glad you liked it. Especially enough to want to leave a kind comment.

Thanks again.
Take care.
V
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 11th Jan 2015 12:12 - 11 years ago
Word up, FloydDriver.

Feelin' the Pink boys here and entirely independently of any other comments.

Your most Crazy Diamondy track yet. Very skillfully done.

First criticism which isn't even really one is for you to pick up some other EZ packs as the drums here are almost identical to a few other tracks. Not a problem in this at all, just my desire to hear more varied drum sounds from you.

This is actually totally far out and damn hard to review because there's so much going on all the time but it's totally consistent in vibe. No veering off down crazy cul de sacs.

0:50 low guitar fading in is very cool and I tone I like and meshes with synths. But it's the pad work on top that is the star of the whole thing. Very beautifully done.

2:40 new little lead is great and the balance between the speakers makes everything wide and spacious and very rich.

3:52 nice soaring pitch bend to make things more psychedelic. I don't actually find this track at all dark. Guitar solo is really cool so no need for you to worry about your lead guit key fiddlin'. Many people will have no idea it ain't a real, played instrument.

Soaring, epic and those P Flunkers would probably be happy for this to be on an album of theirs. In that sense it could be said to be a bit of a ripoff but it's just so well done I don't think it matters.

My only real complaint is coming back for a touch more at 6:32. Should have just left the previous decaying notes sliding away into the distance.

Excellent work and a great progression of your sound.

Here's the greatest Crazy Diamond ripoff I've heard and it's 19 mins. Get the album!

Cinemascope - MLK Shadows

http://www.beatport.com/track/mlk-shadows-original-mix/2026010
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 14th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
What's happnin'?

I will eventually get some more drum stuffs. But most likely not Toontracks. I don't really care for their business ethics. I'm sure I'll find something better. Until then, you'll just have to be bored.

I take your compliment on my pads quite seriously, as I don't use presets. ALl of my pads and synthwork are custom built. Generally per track. There are a few that I use more than once, but generally, new each track. Same with the little lead at 2:40.

" Many people will have no idea it ain't a real, played instrument. "

They will now! Which is fine. I'm not trying to hide that it's VST.

"Soaring, epic and those P Flunkers would probably be happy for this to be on an album of theirs."

I'm pretty sure that if those boys heard this they would probably scratch their heads and say, "is this supposed to be music?" and then sue me for resembling their vibe.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a rip off, as much as it is unapologetically based on Pink Floyd's style, as an example, for the sake of learning how to build good music.

I appreciate the positive and encouraging feedback on this one. I've finally decided to get serious about making tunes. So, I guess it means I'm on the right track.

I'll go check the link now.

Take care, man.
EtherBlu
EtherBlu 11th Jan 2015 10:26 - 11 years ago
Loved the intro... soft & dark at the same time. I Totally agree with Extraball about pink floyd'y vibe, loved the feel... and the mix is good. Only i feel if drums could have been lil boosted. Overall a wonderful track.

Looking forward!

Ether Blu
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 11th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
EtherBlu. How ya doin' man? I don't think you've ever commented on my work before. So, extra thanks for that.

After you mentioning the drum levels I listened again, and you were right. They needed to come up a bit. So, I boosted them just a touch. It sounds good here now. Thanks for suggesting it. I'm glad you liked the track. I'll swing by your page and check out your work in the near future.

Thanks again, man.
Take care.
V.
Danke
Danke 11th Jan 2015 10:24 - 11 years ago
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Diskonnect
Diskonnect 11th Jan 2015 10:04 - 11 years ago
Nice, really like that slowly building intro. Not what I expected when the guitar kicks in but sounds awesome, has a really pink floyd'y vibe. I like the little breakdown where it gives you a little chance to breath and then kicks in for one final push. Very well put together and the mix sounds fine here so wouldn't worry about that too much. Really enjoyed this one so well done! :)
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 11th Jan 2015 - 11 years ago
Extraball, how are you?

Thanks for listening, man! I'm glad you liked it. I take it as a great compliment that it reminds you a little of Pink Floyd. It appears as if you're not the only one who thinks so, either.
I can live with that!

Hey, man. Thanks again for the kindness. I appreciate it.

Take care.
V.

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