Awesome work. Sounds very Trap-like and the production is amazing. Weird to hear those old analogue drum kits being twisted like that, but that’s creativity at it's best.
all the best
Cru
Hey Poppe, my 2 cents. It's ok to put not fully released material on this site, because you are looking for feedback, so don't worry about that (Prom). I'm ok with the synth at :14 being not in key because it creates a sinister dissonance. I write sometimes with dissonance in mind and even a-tonally, so if it fits in your creative vision please keep it. (Epic). You probably won't get most of us to come over to the soundcloud site for 2 reasons. 1. were lazy, and 2 were incredibly loyal to what Shan has created on this site. So if you do have the whole version (unless your like static and have a 22minute version that won't fit here), please post it all here as well.
Cru
Let me first Preface by saying that it is well executed and a well produced song, and this is definitely club-house. Deeo House, not so much. You would need to make this sound much darker, and detuning synths doesn’t make this feel sinister enough to be called deep house. The intro's steel drum synth sound reminds me a bit of blood diamonds song "Phone sex" Judging by your short release I would assume that this is a work in progress and I would love to hear it's evolution. Again what you have created is really good and professional sounding, just not Deep House IMHOP.
Cru
Joe, this is so sinister that I love it. Great great work. Minimalist. Kraftwerk like precision with your Teutonic vox makes this just so so good. I love how it builds with a cool stereo pan mix and then that bass. I like yourself am not a fatalist and believe in all that apocalyptic BS, but if there were an end, I would believe that this tune would capture the zeitgeist with the utmost accuracy my friend.
Cru
what a friendly comment. Nice to know that you believe it captures the Zeitgeist of a going down world :)
Cool that you think the vocals work with the music and the idea of the song. Sure it is dark cause it must be dark at the end of the world :)
The talent on this site just gets better and better each passing day. This is a perfect metal song. My only and I say only Critique is that at the end I would love to hear your voice go up an octave and maybe scream at us in an old school progressive metal operatic way for just a few bars. But that is my only complaint, the solo is spot on , the mix is sublime. great job overall. Even though I don't make metal music on this site, it is a Huge influence in my musical catalogue of songs and I appreciate when it's done right.
Cru
Ahh I enjoyed this one for the fun it brought. I agree with Spiv in that it's more trip-hop or garage than chill, but still doesn't take away from my enjoyment.
Steve
Yes, now I see it's much more trippy and quirky than actual mainstream 'chillout'. Just tried to 'harmonize' the acapella but it was probably too short so I started loading more loops and usied much of sound filtering and like.
Overall it came out quite experimental but I am really happy you enjoyed listening to this unusual piece. Thanks! Alex
Thank you Steve! I am sorry for such delay in replying on this one, I do not know if I will be able to manage all my unanswered posts ever. I am really happy you liked this final remix. I am aware that my dnb sound is quite different from the usual lm dnb. That's why people say it is a chilled dnb. They simply need to have lots of compressions and limitings to be able to hear. The way I hear is determined by my former musical education, here you can find my earlier organ recording and get the idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92jrrSfwWNM
At the moment I do not have time for practising the real instruments at all but looperman helped me so much in keeping the creative process going. I am thankful for your openness and simply allowing your stuff being remixed and developed in any unexpected way.
Hello again, thanks for the reply! I think you have linked to that first one before on one of my tracks, and while it is a good song, top of the pops kind of makes me cringe with the poor lip sync work and all. That uvox one you linked to is pretty cool though! I can see where you get the comparison, and I think it pleases me, as I've been trying to get closer to a "one man band" ability in my music... and since John Foxx had bands to do it all for him, it's a compliment. It's funny, I really dig a lot of Eno's solo stuff, but when he got his hands in other people's work it wasn't usually my thing. My favorites are "Another Green World" and "Nerve Net", I used to listen to those SO MUCH! I think the main collaboration of his that I like is David Bowie's "Lodger", another that I listened to quite a bit. I'm not much for ambient listening, so his more ambient world music influenced stuff was not my preference. Anyway, thank you for the comment and continuing conversation!
In a cool way you are channelling John Foxx in some ways. I was just listening to DEVO Are me not men the other day. what a freaking great album that was. Eno produced and they pissed him off when they wouldn't listen to his suggestions for adding synths par 4 instances on the album.
Cru
Hey there! You have mentioned John Foxx before when commenting on my tracks, and I take it as a positive comparison. I really haven't listened to much for full devo albums, so you know... I do enjoy some of Eno's old work. That's very funny he wanted them to go all maximal like that! Thanks for taking a listen!
I love the glass bowed effect, I have worked with ambient sounds like this before and it makes the best dissonant effects. This is a great effort my friend and i tthoroughly enjoyed it.
Cru
thanks cru. it was devilish making that glass bow settle down. i think i used 5 EQ plug-ins! nevertheless - yea - i came to like that sound in this. thanks very much for the thumbs up. appreciate. regards. Dan
Very nice composition Doug. Opening Piano Remined me slightly of Judas Priest "eulogy" off of the angel of retribution album. but this morphs into cinematic splendor. I love the strings chord progressions.
good work, fav'd
cru
Rhodes and a strong bass response to open this. I might push the bass slightly back down in the mix as it hurts the stereo seperation on this mix, and I want to hear the exciting stuff you have going on in the background. Those synth sounds you use are magical. 1:50 has a nice brass synth sound , then that resonator guitar comes in with the familiar percussion. Seriously like maybe a -.7 on the bass gain. Very good and interesting melodies abound in this work. but the subtle touches of the synths and background is what is impressing me the most. 4:10 is that a synth-soprano sax? Drums and percussion are spot on in this part. There is so much too like and digest at this part. the chime synths are nice and almost Harry Potter (music) like (go back and watch the second film and listen to the musical soundtrack in the background and you will understand. The groove is strong in this one at this point and I am swaying. Now I am hand slapping the drums. Apres 6 mins you are entering a cool zone. Then the resonator guitar. The mixing reminds me of the combination of Bryan Ferry and David Gilmour when they did "Is Your Love strong enough?" for the film Legend. Perhaps the nice use of synth sax. 9:20 is a nice effect. I liked the ending. great job except for the 2 notes at the very very end that don't belong.
Crucehole
Yo. Is Crucehole an ass reference or the type of hole in the ground that a Crucethus usually lives in? Or the type of cartoon hole made when he is thrown through a window?
Was waiting for your review, partly cos I thought this might be one of your favourite ever tracks of mine.
That first Rhodes part was the foundation of the track and I vary it for a while before returning to it in the second (uptempo) half (with further variations).
I will go back and check the bass levels as I have to return anyway to remove those final two "export error" notes.
Yes, the synth sounds are magic - Nomadgic. My own unique brand of magic and not to be confused with no magic. I try to sprinkle a little Nomadgic on all my tracks. Alas, sometimes it does not stick.
No idea why 1:50ish has brassy synth sound but I hear it now you and Midisparks have mentioned it. Just a preset I dialled up and modified slightly.
No resonator guitar in that rocking section, just regular electric. Resonator only in one section - slide solo on 7:02.
4:10 I can hear no synth sax. Lead part there is the arppeggiated, bowed violin so not sure how you're hearing sax. There's mega evil synth sax in my unfinished jazz metal track so you'll like that.
Chime arpegg is cool though I don't read or watch any Harry Potter but can imagine what you mean.
3:40-4:10 is some mega chill funk. Check the high bass g.
"Now I am hand slapping the drums"
What else would you slap them with? Dick gets painful after an hour or so when I do it.
5:45 approaching "a cool zone" with new bassline that reminds me strongly of New Order's fantastic Blue Monday. Such a clever and timeless track.
I did listen to Is Your Love Strong Enough (no, thanks for asking) when you sent me the link. Don't know why the mixing here is like it.
9:20 is a freeze stutter effect I have used occasionally in many tracks, Into The Out There being a good example.
Thanks for the words. Now retreat back to your hole, slap your drums, polish your MS-20 and caress its wah porn joystick.
Intro is brilliant, I love the syncopated drums. Complex and yet compelling sounding. 1:00 starts the build up. and a cool build up, nice synths btw. Very very prog (Danke). 1:50 a nice porn slap bass juxtaposition with some nice flanged guitar sounds. Deep wah bass to end it all. Nice work I liked it.
Cruthanasia
Ok here is my take on this. There is a little bit of clipping I hear, lower your headroom before compressing. Your musical taste is much more eclectic than I gave you credit for my dear. I really like this though. My thoughts on effects are this....when you first get a hold of a new toy you want to try everything and you want to hear the effect slapping you across the face. But as you go on you learn when to hold back and when to use it effectively, and that just takes time and practice. So keep doing these segues as they will help you grow. I have about 26(90 min) old cassette tapes of material (from back in the day) that will never see the light of day because most of them were practice songs. For me listening to Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music, and Also Brian Eno was a master class in how to arrange sounds subtly and effectively. Some musicians used to complain that no one can hear themselves on a Bryan Ferry track which could have up to 30 musicians on it, but the whole sound together is what made it lush and vibrant...tasteful. so keep on keeping on.
Cru
Hi Steve!
Well, I still didn't lower the volume which I really should have and am going too because if I turn the limiter off, the master volume thing turns all red...the good thing is that I now actually understand why and so forth. So going to fix that later.
About the very cool new effects in Ableton - I turned some of them off now and tweaked some others. I'm hearing you there but Im still a little too found of them to hold back all the way. But maybe at the next tweaking.
About your old stash of practice songs - this Looperman account with a maximum of 50 songs (I'm on my 49th now, some of them are hidden) is my stash of practice songs I guess. Too bad people have to hear them!! =D
But I actually don't post ALL of them, I have an other stash in my daw that never will see the light off day.
Well, anyway thanks for the feedback and for sharing your thoughts Steve and I hope all is well with you.
Yeah...Not really looking for any words, know body want to hear
the things I was saying, this was way more then Adult Content
and I won't even want to go there now...
Glad you liked the Guitars...
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all the best
Cru
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Cru
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Cru
and next time i'll put tracks in the right genre ,im just glad to hear it sound professional
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Cru
what a friendly comment. Nice to know that you believe it captures the Zeitgeist of a going down world :)
Cool that you think the vocals work with the music and the idea of the song. Sure it is dark cause it must be dark at the end of the world :)
stay tuned
joe
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Cru
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http://www.rtqe.net/ObliqueStrategies/
Completely will open you up as an artist.
Cru
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Cru
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Steve
Overall it came out quite experimental but I am really happy you enjoyed listening to this unusual piece. Thanks! Alex
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Cru
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cru
Thank you , I ll do my best .
I think it works...
Artcore is heavy stuff..
Made bij the Ruffneck label from The Netherlands.
You can listen to that here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDHAq6bzAGU&list=PLp9HfFAKPmorfs1Ll8bhbSxMVpvrtl_ov&index=20
They are my faved Label..
Greetz
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ood work Alex.
Steve
At the moment I do not have time for practising the real instruments at all but looperman helped me so much in keeping the creative process going. I am thankful for your openness and simply allowing your stuff being remixed and developed in any unexpected way.
All the best to you, Alex
on Lovin It by Spivkurl
John Foxx comparisons are a compliment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4quBLWvzGQ&html5=1
for some cool solo stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp_2ClC4eME&html5=1
And for Later early Ultravox!
Gary Numan cites this era of U-VOX to be his muse. (he hates the Midge Ure years)
The early U-vox are more like punk meets Roxy Music.
Oh yeah, and Eno had his hand in this as well.
Cru
on Lovin It by Spivkurl
Cru
on Funkmachine by ZankFrappa
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Cru
on Tension by DouglasS
good work, fav'd
cru
on A Little Bit Of Infinity by StaticNomad
Crucehole
Was waiting for your review, partly cos I thought this might be one of your favourite ever tracks of mine.
That first Rhodes part was the foundation of the track and I vary it for a while before returning to it in the second (uptempo) half (with further variations).
I will go back and check the bass levels as I have to return anyway to remove those final two "export error" notes.
Yes, the synth sounds are magic - Nomadgic. My own unique brand of magic and not to be confused with no magic. I try to sprinkle a little Nomadgic on all my tracks. Alas, sometimes it does not stick.
No idea why 1:50ish has brassy synth sound but I hear it now you and Midisparks have mentioned it. Just a preset I dialled up and modified slightly.
No resonator guitar in that rocking section, just regular electric. Resonator only in one section - slide solo on 7:02.
4:10 I can hear no synth sax. Lead part there is the arppeggiated, bowed violin so not sure how you're hearing sax. There's mega evil synth sax in my unfinished jazz metal track so you'll like that.
Chime arpegg is cool though I don't read or watch any Harry Potter but can imagine what you mean.
3:40-4:10 is some mega chill funk. Check the high bass g.
"Now I am hand slapping the drums"
What else would you slap them with? Dick gets painful after an hour or so when I do it.
5:45 approaching "a cool zone" with new bassline that reminds me strongly of New Order's fantastic Blue Monday. Such a clever and timeless track.
I did listen to Is Your Love Strong Enough (no, thanks for asking) when you sent me the link. Don't know why the mixing here is like it.
9:20 is a freeze stutter effect I have used occasionally in many tracks, Into The Out There being a good example.
Thanks for the words. Now retreat back to your hole, slap your drums, polish your MS-20 and caress its wah porn joystick.
on So Long Bound by Evisma
Cruthanasia
Thanks for the kind words. However,............
"nice synths btw"
No synths except the drums are MIDI. Anything synthy is the distortions I used together. A Fuzz Face and a Big Muff Pi.
Thanks again!
Evan
on Gonna Make You Feel It - Funkiest Remix by clindsay
Cru
-clindsay
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
Cru
Well, I still didn't lower the volume which I really should have and am going too because if I turn the limiter off, the master volume thing turns all red...the good thing is that I now actually understand why and so forth. So going to fix that later.
About the very cool new effects in Ableton - I turned some of them off now and tweaked some others. I'm hearing you there but Im still a little too found of them to hold back all the way. But maybe at the next tweaking.
About your old stash of practice songs - this Looperman account with a maximum of 50 songs (I'm on my 49th now, some of them are hidden) is my stash of practice songs I guess. Too bad people have to hear them!! =D
But I actually don't post ALL of them, I have an other stash in my daw that never will see the light off day.
Well, anyway thanks for the feedback and for sharing your thoughts Steve and I hope all is well with you.
Take care!
/ SJ =)
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Cru
on I Wont Quit by soundhound
great job
cru
Yeah...Not really looking for any words, know body want to hear
the things I was saying, this was way more then Adult Content
and I won't even want to go there now...
Glad you liked the Guitars...
Peace...TG.
on Chameleon by DouglasS
nice work
cru