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Listen To Blackwater Feat DJ ShemZee Heavy Metal Song By Tryanothername At Looperman.com

19th Nov 2014 07:55 - 10 years ago
Description : Well well well. I think I have been working on this track off and on for over a year now. It is rare to find an acapella track of such high quality like this one, so I tried to cram as much into this song as I could to make the most of it. It is long, it has many twists and turns, but I think it's a rewarding listen.

This song has more lead guitar playing than I'm used to, so I had to step up in that regard. There are also flutes, orchestral parts and guitar effects that made the mixing rather difficult, so I would appreciate some feedback on that aspect.

Thanks to DJ ShemZee for his great vocals (https://www.looperman.com/acapellas/detail/4670/blackwater-by-djshemzee-82bpm-heavy-metal-acapella), I hope you like the track!

Comments (8)

If you have time take a listen and give tryanothername some feedback.

jamalsaleem786
jamalsaleem786 23rd Feb 2015 09:49 - 10 years ago
soso hard And hard Wery Nic
08PeeSon80
08PeeSon80 20th Feb 2015 18:49 - 10 years ago
I really love the whole Iron Maiden Soundhouse Tapes feel to it. But I think the vocals are a bit flat to be honest. Rock on dude! :)
Evisma
Evisma 8th Dec 2014 06:27 - 10 years ago
This reminds me of Arch/Matheos.

Drumming is probably the highlight for me here. Guitar is good. Some parts predictable, some just bad ass!

The whole lead up to 4:00 was pretty sweet, not to mention the following solo that is very fitting.

I would have screwed this track up by over layering it. Just when I think you're going to, you break off into so Liquid Tension Experiment type stuff.

I do dig.

Evan
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 20th Nov 2014 15:09 - 10 years ago
It's a very impressive stirring, epic track and I'm not surprised it took so long to get right. I sometimes spend years on tracks though these days it's more like months.

Are you using some programmed software acoustic kits? I use Superior Drummer and EZ Drummer expansion packs and some of the fine drumming here reminds me of some of the stuff I'm able to get out of that software. You certainly enjoy big fills and double kick work (me too).

Shitloads of good guitar work in this. If you're really not such a lead guy then you've definitely worked really hard at it. Lots of great runs and big solos.

2:16 mostly drumless breakdown is big and epic. Crowds enjoy that sort of thing live as it's exciting seeing the drums return, as you know they must.

4:45 useful breaks around here which are a bit of a relief after all the prior guitar onslaught.

I don't love the vocals but they're a classic hard rock type that lots of metallers love. Along the same lines, I don't like Bruce Dickinson's vocal style but millions of others do. As already mentioned, the vocals could probably do with being a bit louder in places. Or guitar turned down a bit.

I can hear some of the orchestral parts but not the flutes. I guess they kind of merge with the orchestral parts. You probably could have provided more variation in the track if you had brought the orchestral parts out a lot more ie turned the guitar down. There's already so much of it elsewhere.

Finally, I love your very conclusive ending. Perfectly done!

Check this for me doing some flute metal, though it takes quite a while to get to it:

Fly Yes Land No

https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/151315

or this for probably my greatest ever heavy onslaught:

The Bigger The Fatter The Better

https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/155188

Congrats on your track
tryanothername
tryanothername replied 20th Nov 2014 - 10 years ago
Thanks for the in-depth feedback, appreciate it! I'm using EZ Drummer with the Metal Machine expansion and a lot of the fills I'm using are from that expansion which is probably why they sound familiar.

A lot of the orchestral parts, flutes, and effected guitars merge together in a big mush, which is kind of the effect I was going for. I will definitely check out your tracks shortly!
GramoChopin
GramoChopin 20th Nov 2014 01:51 - 10 years ago
Great instrumentation, really nice drum rolls and breakdowns. Outdoes the vocals though for sure. I agree with DJshemzee too, they could also be a bit louder. Excellent guitar playing and the mix is pretty nice. No real critiques except the vocals, overall arrangement was pretty dope. Very nice job, peace

Gramo/Neo
tryanothername
tryanothername replied 20th Nov 2014 - 10 years ago
Thanks very much, I agree, the vocals should be a bit louder
Spivkurl
Spivkurl 19th Nov 2014 16:00 - 10 years ago
This song has a good feel to it, lots of momentum and dynamics! ShemZee has an excellent voice, and it fits right in with this style. Pretty well balanced mix, with a good stereo field. Did you play these guitars? If so, nicely done! I was going to give a suggestion on how to bring focus to the vocals as ShemZee mentioned, but I checked out the pella and it made it more difficult. I was thinking you could make the reverb a bit less wet, but it's possible that the reverb is all in the original vocals. If you did add any, you may want to reconsider, as this may bring out the vocals without adjusting volume much. Great song though! Fave!
tryanothername
tryanothername replied 20th Nov 2014 - 10 years ago
Thanks for the kind words! I did play the guitars. I think the vocals probably need to be a bit louder, I didn't alter them at all from the original track. I'll work on an alternate mix.
Modnex
Modnex 19th Nov 2014 11:06 - 10 years ago
Really nice track here! I normally don't listen to metal, but I enjoyed this track very much. Nice work and great use of that acapella!
DJShemZee
DJShemZee 19th Nov 2014 08:27 - 10 years ago
an amazing track my friend...one of the best I`ve heard my voice into...just one little thing I think you could make the vox a bit louder like the ones in Street Walker
tryanothername
tryanothername replied 20th Nov 2014 - 10 years ago
Thanks mate! I think I will do a mix with the vocals louder, some other people have mentioned this too.

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