Oh man I really like this one Rico...I just posted a comment before but it went into space..I`m enjoying listening too much to offer useful suggestions...sounds nice and crisp...highs are great and everything seems nicely placed in the mix...kick is good & fat...not sure about the bass??...I`m just listening with my old Sony MDV-600 phones and they are terrible on bass (great on highs)...I`ll be looking for a download when you get it the way you want...but its a fav now too....great job...Ed
Thanks so much for the support Tumbleweed! Sorry about not getting back to you about that comment on my track I posted earlier. Ive been busy making a ton of new stuff! I will be sure to upload the finished product here later so you can enjoy it, good bass or no, lol:)
A tip of the hat to you for taking on a project like this E.R...and then getting all those people and their sounds to live together so well.....and it is a really good mixing job that accomplishes that...its a hell of a big mix and yet everything seems to play its part and even with my older ears it really sounds nice and clear/clean....so I certainly dont think I could make any observations that would improve on what you have done..I`m not familiar with the genre..looks to be limited fairly hard but thats what a lot of the style seems to demand...so the fact that it sounds really good tells me you got those mixing skills down to a T....great stuff.....keep on...Ed
Hi T.G...first let me apologize for calling you Scott in that replay I just did on my attempted R&B mix...I had been checking out some stuff over on Scott`s page (and I`ve only had a couple of the local beveriges)...your new axe sounds like it knows its way around T.G and you obviously know your way around it too...funny thing...even though it bears no resemblance to anything Moody Blues it brought to mind some of my first impressions of one of my all time fav groups (showing my age I guess) with the combination of orchestral backing & guitar...I`m guessing the keys were in the original clip so I cant suggest you take it out and let a walking around bass & backing pads be the backing....like that musical imagination on yours T.G...and your creative versatility....keep on...Ed
Don't worry about it, I've been called worse...hahaha
Thanks Man
The Guitar is a Gibson SG from the 70's, plays like butter
in my hand, wish I had this when I was running in a band...LOL
Yes he did the bed track so, I couldn't really do anything with
outside of what I did...
Imagination what's that I just play what I feel, once I hear the chords
I just play...As long as I stay in the box I'm cool, don't like bad
harmonics... :)...
Thanks again for stopping in Ed...And your comment...
You just provided me with one of the strongest reminders I have had in a long time of why I find the real creativity that my mind seeks on LM and like places that offer a musical forum for the real stuff....superb bit of musical art guys...love that fretless Dave...but the whole damn thing is just so good..and I like the passage of time vibe...I find myself paying attention to everything thats going on (and the production makes that an easy task)...bravo.....and I`m smiling cause I realize I can still get that experience most of have had that confirms what remains possible when musicians get together..(aint been on my radio for ever)....Ed
Hey Ed..thanks buddy,like you I hardly ever listen to radio these days,well the commercial side of it anyway.....I guess relics like Zappo and myself (and you! lol)tend to live in the past experience wise and all I've got to say to that is thank God! (or whatever appropriate deity),there is obviously some great contemporary music being made in the world but it's hidden from the mainstream,we were so lucky to grow up listening to proper music! haha...thanks again mate ,be over to your page..like right now!..cheers Dave :)
I think its all been said Spiv....and by people much better informed to comment than this ol boy....you seem to have gained the uniqueness that many artists would strive for...and its the kind of thing that demands attention from those who absorb the intricicies of what you do...Its really interesting listening....a tip o the hat to you....Ed
From you Ed, this comment was a pleasure to read! I feel like I'm only scratching the surface at this point, especially considering the rising tide of obstacles that I have been contending with. I chose this life long ago though, so who am I to complain. Either way, it made me happy to hear from you on this song, so thank you!
I see I missed this one (and a lot of other favs) while I was out playing in the sun...I`m thinking you were having some fun doing this one...when our first little guitar band was done I recall playing with my Brother`s group and they had a keyboard player...what a difference it makes...a lot more versatility/options...but I could never talk my fellow players away from covers & into something more creative..so its a nice treat to listen to the result when two musicians travelling different roads get something together...Just a nice cruising kind of vibe that carries you along with it...good listening out my way TG....great stuff....Ed
Thanks...Ed...
As you can tell I like to push myself at times, doing things that
make me stop and think for a moment...
Just trying to play in a simple format, can change the way you
think about Music...
I don't try to be perfect anymore, just having fun with grooves
that feel good to me...And are road worthy... :-)
really like the intro and the build up to the big power that follows...really epic...carries the dramatic yet suspenseful vibe really effectively...I began to appreciate orchestral music (and the use of string sections) quite early on in my listening exerience so its always seemed impressive to me...you did it really well on this one EYEDYE...usually the cellos can carry enough bass without anything else but I noted E.Rs comment on bass...It might be a bit challenging to fit in with the low strings but if you give it a shot, maybe try a very low subby type bass with a short sustain so it doesnt wash into that frequency range above 100hz or so too much...I think your low strings/cellos? are centered somewhere around 160 but my ears aren`t as trustworthy as they used to be.....I like it as it is though & really enjoyed the listen...a very impressive bit of musical work...I wouldn`t want to discourage you taking a shot at vocal additions but its stands well on its own too....well done...Ed
Hello Tumble, good to hear from you :) Im glad you really enjoyed this one. I also usually carry the bass with strings alone, but I may just add an actual bass really low underlaying, just to give it that very final 'full" feel. Im not sure honestly where they are centered at though. Thanks again for stoppin :)
its picture painting mind bending good stuff Neomorpheus....I was at some after-parties a few decades ago where we would have just put this on repeat play and listened for the rest of the night....fantastic bit of musical art....I could listen to a lot of music like this...thanks....Ed
Haha, I can relate to those kind of after parties Ed !
So glad to hear that this makes sense to some. As always, good to get your feedback and I'm very thankful for the kind words.
Thanks for letting me tag along Pat....some of the finest key & sax playing I have ever had the privilege of playing along with...look forward to the next one whenever it may be....You should do a couple of reviews/comments on other tracks & get this one bumped over to the Featured track pages....Thanks again...Ed
the journey is too picturesque and interesting for me to sleep to this one Orlando...you are indeed a master of painting musical pictures for the mind....superb piece of art here...as usual....Ed
Hey, my friend....glad you're back after some time! I hope you
will be soon presenting some new material here on LM!
Thank you so much for another positive and supportive feedback
and I have to tell you that I can't really compose proper lullabies, so you guys will need some stronger stuff to put you in sleep...)
Hi TG...I`ve been away from the music for a while (the good wife may have to phone the cookie truck to come & get me soon)...but stopped by for a quick listen and just had to log in to leave you a big well done on this one....nice backing and the guitar is sounding real smoooth...its all good...I`ll just take it for a spin ...comes with a smile.....keep on....Ed
Every now and then you've got to do, what your soul tells you to...
Other wise you miss the whole point, of being alive...
Sometimes you just have to slow down enough, so the wind can catch
up with you, if you don't you will never hear what it brings with it...
And it's always something New...
Once again thanks for taking the time, She rides well...
If I were having a bad day I would just need to stop by and listen to this...or any of your tracks...and things would be o.k.....there have been rumours of peace here and there but I`m not sure all the tribes on our wee planet have ever been totally at peace with the rest...perhaps some will listen to this and be helped on their way to finding peace...just a great track Orlando....I am away from the music for a while but just had to stop by for a listen.....Ed
Welcome ,Ed....as first I wish you as least bad days as possible and second I have to say thank you again for your continuous support....I hope you won't be away for long...I miss so many people of the old guard here on LM (Vicky, Mark, Anubis etc.).
ant4505...having a plan for the music project...the composition ideas...the arrangement, instrumentation, an how it will come together & sound in the end etc always pays off ...I am not a good example of that for I just compose to have something to play guitar to most of the time and am not very patient.....good for you....it sounds like an interesting project...keep it going...it always pays to take the time...Ed
You have indeed found a really big talent in Lisa Richie..really like the keys too (I think this may be the first track of yours I have listened to where the keys are the instrumental focus...man they sound good...warm & fat)..the quiet organ bit works better that a pad would have considering the rest of the arrangement..production is all pro...you and Lisa can take a well-deserved bow after this one...I`m clapping....Ed
Always good to hear from you. I hope everything goes well in your life.
Yes, Lisa is a real find and a very talented singer (actress and screen writer too). We have plans to start writing some original material in the very near future.
The keys are simply a patch from Logic X and you're dead right. It's not often I produce a track with no guitars on it. There are two pianos (the electric rhodes sounds plus the acoustic grand piano) plus the hammond style organ so not a great deal of room for much else. I decided to leave it as it was and let it "breathe" a bit.
I will pass your kind comments on to Lisa too. She will be really pleased. Thanks again.
you really nailed the situation you describe jamid...I like the mix of emotional and the light/higher sounds and the way your composition conveys the sadness without being overpowering down...like the ending idea (although I think I would have left dead silence right after the ##### shot)..nice job on the mix too....enjoyed the listen...a big well done to you...Ed
Hello Ed,
Many thanks for your warm and motivating comment.
Usually it is an achievement to have a comment from a fellow producer but to have a brilliant comment especially from you it is an honour.
I am glad you enjoyed it.
As regard to the ending my wife had a same idea as yours I think I am convinced now to change it.
Thanks again
Jamid
much has already been said about this one Orlando...and rightly so...it is indeed exceptional...epic....inspirational....cinematic..thoughtfully composed...expertly arranged...and masterfully played...besides, the production is top notch too....I think that about covers it and thats my honest opinion my friend...Ed
Thank you so much my friend for another supportive comment!
You can imagine how hungry of making music I was after that long blackout and I think now I'm much closer to the former strenghts with this composition. I'm glad you have so much positive to say about it....I always trust your opinion!:)
Also big thanks for the 'fav'...truly appreciated!
Hey Static...just stopping back at your place a minute with a further word of thanks for the helpful info on that mix I had posted...Had a little time to solo & analyse the tracks this afternoon...To my great surprise a majority of the issues were with a string pad track (that would usually be about the last place I would have expected)...I have had a stern chat with myself and am now lashing myself about the head and shoulders with a wet noodle....Will update my Sound Cloud version if I find time to remix....In the mean time I`ll have another listen to this one....thanks again...Ed
Audio pops piss me off no end so I'm happy to point them out and have done so a good few times in Looperman reviews. They're really inexcusable (to me) in my music so I have to get rid of them as they're pure sonic errors.
I'm currently working on a dual female vocal track and have spent the last couple of mornings removing loads of audio pop edits. The embarrassing thing for me is that I made the track four years ago (just doing an update now) and I cannot work out why the hell I didn't remove all of them at the time. I can't believe I couldn't notice them and you know what I'm like for scrutinising details.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that sometimes people can miss these seemingly obvious errors in their own work so no one should fear pointing them out.
Interesting that Orlando pointed out those errors in your track (though without any time references) but he couldn't hear the audio pops that I pointed out in his most recent track. People have said to me before that it might be something to do with Looperman/web playback but I'm not so sure. I can only go on what I hear, especially when I play it back a few times and the pop is in exactly the same place as before.
I see you have some very in-depth commentary on just about everything to do with this one Static...so there is little an old guitar guy could add that would be at all informative..Having played bass for a few years, the bass grooves you have going here are welcome music to my ears...can`t imagine you doing anything boring (even if you never changed key) and have to admire your attention to detail, not only in instrumentation but in the way the arrangement evolves...I do like the power drums and the outro leaves me with an oh yeah feeling...You do it well and I enjoyed being a listener...much respect to you....Ed
I never know quite what people will pick out from my tracks as interesting to them. Either favourite parts or areas for improvement. My stuff is so dense that there's so much that could be chosen though I don't mind hearing multiple times that a particular section was a highlight. Some bits just do stand out as being high points, as much as you try to raise the quality of everything else.
Yes, there are some decent grooves in the lead bass work though the anchoring stuff is all done by synth bass. Lead bass intentionally doesn't have any low end and is functioning much more as guitar in this. Unusual but it's the kind of thing Evisma does a lot, which is why this track is dedicated to him. Doesn't sound at all like his music but it's not supposed to - there's just the lead bass connection.
"have to admire your attention to detail"
That truly is how I make almost all my music as I don't plan this stuff out beforehand. I jam, see what I get and closely scrutinize and edit parts and then get inspired to add more and more.
Quite often, the attention to detail is me just fixing stuff that's not working properly. Then, in doing the fix, I come up with something creative and have to include that and that's one of a good few reasons for my tracks being so long. I just keep stretching out what I've already got. I love to try to get the most out of the parts I've recorded though often have to start a new track so that things don't end up being 20 mins or more.
"the outro leaves me with an oh yeah feeling"
That's a good way to sign off. I'm not entirely happy with the very final ending but it's a nice enough return to the start of it all so I guess it will do.
Really like this one X...I really wouldn`t suggest you do much if anything to it...the minimal approach really works...everything sounds nice and clear...its the kind of easy listening stuff that just leaves you with a smile (I`ve been cluttering the hell out of my mixes lately...so I`m paying attention to what you have hear)...Its good listening over my way...really well done..Fav....Ed
I never listened to much Techno until I signed in with Looperman..and I have to admit I have been really getting to like some of it...so I`m blaming that on you (and a couple of others) silverman..haha....very cool track that I`m enjoying a whole lot...I sure couldn`t offer any useful advice on the genre & you obviously dont need any...really well done....Ed
One of your very best Alex....has a really cool combination of rock-pop-funk-soul going on that makes it really quite different...interesting..keeps the ears tuned in all the way..thoughtful composing with the changes that still hold to the overall theme.....take a bow my friend...really excellent....fav...Ed
Megapaul is probably one of the greatest and most inspiring discoveries of mine on this site as he produced a great amount of funky guitar loops.
So just trying out myself on the loops I downloaded when joining the site few months ago.
Sadly collab is not working anytime... creative process can't be rationally controlled I guess... I might be totally wrong though - correct me if so!
Thank you again for very kind feedback and making this one a favourite of you! I really appreciate that and am so happy you liked this production! Alex
I see I`m late catching up with this one Alex...(I`m late for a lot of things lately)...really appreciate the expression and subtlety you get into those Rhodes notes (I think that is difficult to do on an electric piano)...awesome flute lines here...very intricate...There is someting magical about letting the instruments create their own rhythm without the assistance of drums/percussion...it seems to help the music just flow more naturally (I haven`t yet accomplished that)..and without the drums you seem to get a lot more of the dynamic range of everything else...very thoughtfully composed (I admire your patience)..and skillfully played....I must fav this one as it is just so unique, and there is something special about the pictures it brings to ones mind...great track.....Ed
Thank you a lot Ed! Firstly I much appreciate your kind words on the production itself: Yes! There is some electic Rhodes in here (from Roland synth) that I used to support the harmonic progression and to fill up the space at some places throughout this track.
I must say that I started only with drums this time ... When I recorded the solo using some nice flute-like lead I realized that this drum loop I was using takes too much place in the mix so finally I decided to remove it completely. That allowed me to add some more of pads and atmospheres and build much subtle/ambient-like composition...
As for the electric Rhodes I do not have any original one of course but I am very familiar with the mechanics of the real acoustic piano and action of church organ (I practiced also harpsichord for some time). The Roland Juno Di has very light action which in my opinion gives the possibility to play easier but from the other hand that's still just an emulation of the classic electric piano (which is basically an electro - acoustic instrument)... Still it sounds quite cool and keeping that original classic sound in mind I can record easier and faster now, not need to struggle with midi latency signal delay and adjusting midi notes anymore!
Maybe I will get the real Rhodes some day as well as I will probably continue progressively my current making-music in the future!
Thank you again for the time and giving me some great feedback! I really appreciate that.
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ER
on Trial-and-Error by soundhound
Thanks Man
The Guitar is a Gibson SG from the 70's, plays like butter
in my hand, wish I had this when I was running in a band...LOL
Yes he did the bed track so, I couldn't really do anything with
outside of what I did...
Imagination what's that I just play what I feel, once I hear the chords
I just play...As long as I stay in the box I'm cool, don't like bad
harmonics... :)...
Thanks again for stopping in Ed...And your comment...
Peace...TG.
on Ederlazi home made version by janis71
on Future in the Past by Planetjazzbass
on Snake In The Past by Spivkurl
on 07 Smooth As Me by Eighteen
on Mad As Hell by soundhound
As you can tell I like to push myself at times, doing things that
make me stop and think for a moment...
Just trying to play in a simple format, can change the way you
think about Music...
I don't try to be perfect anymore, just having fun with grooves
that feel good to me...And are road worthy... :-)
Thanks again my Man...
Peace...TG.
on When The Fight Starts by MOONLYTE
on Comanchera by Neomorpheus
So glad to hear that this makes sense to some. As always, good to get your feedback and I'm very thankful for the kind words.
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on The African Moon Lullaby - For Danke by Orlando51
will be soon presenting some new material here on LM!
Thank you so much for another positive and supportive feedback
and I have to tell you that I can't really compose proper lullabies, so you guys will need some stronger stuff to put you in sleep...)
I hope all is well_____Orlando
on Chapter 19 by soundhound
Every now and then you've got to do, what your soul tells you to...
Other wise you miss the whole point, of being alive...
Sometimes you just have to slow down enough, so the wind can catch
up with you, if you don't you will never hear what it brings with it...
And it's always something New...
Once again thanks for taking the time, She rides well...
Peace...TG.
on Pax Europea by Orlando51
I hope all is well
Orlando
on Up From Ashes Part 2 by Byleth
Peace
on I cant make you love me featuring Lisa Worth by RichieWinn
Always good to hear from you. I hope everything goes well in your life.
Yes, Lisa is a real find and a very talented singer (actress and screen writer too). We have plans to start writing some original material in the very near future.
The keys are simply a patch from Logic X and you're dead right. It's not often I produce a track with no guitars on it. There are two pianos (the electric rhodes sounds plus the acoustic grand piano) plus the hammond style organ so not a great deal of room for much else. I decided to leave it as it was and let it "breathe" a bit.
I will pass your kind comments on to Lisa too. She will be really pleased. Thanks again.
Best
Richie
on The last psychotic moments of lost Love UPDATED by DijamMusic
Many thanks for your warm and motivating comment.
Usually it is an achievement to have a comment from a fellow producer but to have a brilliant comment especially from you it is an honour.
I am glad you enjoyed it.
As regard to the ending my wife had a same idea as yours I think I am convinced now to change it.
Thanks again
Jamid
on Sicily Farewell 1906 by Orlando51
You can imagine how hungry of making music I was after that long blackout and I think now I'm much closer to the former strenghts with this composition. I'm glad you have so much positive to say about it....I always trust your opinion!:)
Also big thanks for the 'fav'...truly appreciated!
All the best_____Orlando
on 9000 Years Too Young by StaticNomad
Audio pops piss me off no end so I'm happy to point them out and have done so a good few times in Looperman reviews. They're really inexcusable (to me) in my music so I have to get rid of them as they're pure sonic errors.
I'm currently working on a dual female vocal track and have spent the last couple of mornings removing loads of audio pop edits. The embarrassing thing for me is that I made the track four years ago (just doing an update now) and I cannot work out why the hell I didn't remove all of them at the time. I can't believe I couldn't notice them and you know what I'm like for scrutinising details.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that sometimes people can miss these seemingly obvious errors in their own work so no one should fear pointing them out.
Interesting that Orlando pointed out those errors in your track (though without any time references) but he couldn't hear the audio pops that I pointed out in his most recent track. People have said to me before that it might be something to do with Looperman/web playback but I'm not so sure. I can only go on what I hear, especially when I play it back a few times and the pop is in exactly the same place as before.
Glad you got them fixed.
on 9000 Years Too Young by StaticNomad
I never know quite what people will pick out from my tracks as interesting to them. Either favourite parts or areas for improvement. My stuff is so dense that there's so much that could be chosen though I don't mind hearing multiple times that a particular section was a highlight. Some bits just do stand out as being high points, as much as you try to raise the quality of everything else.
Yes, there are some decent grooves in the lead bass work though the anchoring stuff is all done by synth bass. Lead bass intentionally doesn't have any low end and is functioning much more as guitar in this. Unusual but it's the kind of thing Evisma does a lot, which is why this track is dedicated to him. Doesn't sound at all like his music but it's not supposed to - there's just the lead bass connection.
"have to admire your attention to detail"
That truly is how I make almost all my music as I don't plan this stuff out beforehand. I jam, see what I get and closely scrutinize and edit parts and then get inspired to add more and more.
Quite often, the attention to detail is me just fixing stuff that's not working properly. Then, in doing the fix, I come up with something creative and have to include that and that's one of a good few reasons for my tracks being so long. I just keep stretching out what I've already got. I love to try to get the most out of the parts I've recorded though often have to start a new track so that things don't end up being 20 mins or more.
"the outro leaves me with an oh yeah feeling"
That's a good way to sign off. I'm not entirely happy with the very final ending but it's a nice enough return to the start of it all so I guess it will do.
Thanks for the respect.
on Xyilent - Gaia by XyIlent
yeah the minimal approach seems to work well, its just a matter of making sure it doesnt sound too empty... but seems to work :P
"Its good listening over my way"
Awesome! im glad you enjoyed ed.
thanks for taking the time :)
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
on times passing by silverman
on secrets of resonance featuring megapaul by promenade2239
Megapaul is probably one of the greatest and most inspiring discoveries of mine on this site as he produced a great amount of funky guitar loops.
So just trying out myself on the loops I downloaded when joining the site few months ago.
Sadly collab is not working anytime... creative process can't be rationally controlled I guess... I might be totally wrong though - correct me if so!
Thank you again for very kind feedback and making this one a favourite of you! I really appreciate that and am so happy you liked this production! Alex
on Prelude II by promenade2239
I must say that I started only with drums this time ... When I recorded the solo using some nice flute-like lead I realized that this drum loop I was using takes too much place in the mix so finally I decided to remove it completely. That allowed me to add some more of pads and atmospheres and build much subtle/ambient-like composition...
As for the electric Rhodes I do not have any original one of course but I am very familiar with the mechanics of the real acoustic piano and action of church organ (I practiced also harpsichord for some time). The Roland Juno Di has very light action which in my opinion gives the possibility to play easier but from the other hand that's still just an emulation of the classic electric piano (which is basically an electro - acoustic instrument)... Still it sounds quite cool and keeping that original classic sound in mind I can record easier and faster now, not need to struggle with midi latency signal delay and adjusting midi notes anymore!
Maybe I will get the real Rhodes some day as well as I will probably continue progressively my current making-music in the future!
Thank you again for the time and giving me some great feedback! I really appreciate that.
Best to you, Alex