How Many Times Have I Told You - Remix - ValveDriver

20th Dec 2025 03:31 - 10 months ago
Description : EDIT #2: At this point I've changed so much, there's no point in listing them all. Take this as a lesson, kids. Don't get in a hurry to finish! Any and all critiques are welcome. Encouraged even!

What we have here is an early 90s, Ministry/White Zombie style industrial metal track. Because, you know what? I like that. Hopefully you do too!

Comments (16)

If you have time take a listen and give ValveDriver some feedback.

GuyManly317
GuyManly317 6th Jan 2026 16:01 - 10 months ago
DOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!
kingmt77
kingmt77 26th Dec 2025 21:32 - 10 months ago
Aaron I trust your Christmas was good as well. But how could it not be with a Doberman puppy. The track I tagged you in I did a few years back and wanted to do some touching up. I'll post a link.

I really miss Manuela with True Sisters. She posted a comment on a track I did a while ago when I told her I was self taught. She hits me with a term "Autodidact" which means a deep, focused self education. So Aaron welcome to the fold! I call myself a "Knob Twister" I just twist knobs until it sounds good LOL! Stay safe.

Mark

https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/240922/
Zootman
Zootman 26th Dec 2025 08:53 - 10 months ago
Killer track Aaron. Everything sounds amazing, mix included. Didn't listed to ministry back in the day but maybe I should. I think I'll play my 14 year old son this track, I think he'll dig it. Cheers Zoot.
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 26th Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
Zoot, how are ya, man? Well, I hope.
Thanks for the listen and the comment. I appreciate it.
Ministry has been on regular rotation in my playlists since about 1989. Even in my tracks where I'm not intentionally going for that vibe (like this one), they still show up in some way or another.
I'm flattered that you would think to show this to your son. I know you've said in the past that he's become quite the metal head. Let me know what he thought of it.
Take care, mister.
Aaron.
kingmt77
kingmt77 25th Dec 2025 08:33 - 10 months ago
Aaron! Really? How you expect me to evaluate your track when listening I got STUCK IN THE GROOVE! HUH? Anyway I haven't heard the original take but this is packed with power. Me being a connoisseur for fine tweaking like you, I hear where you are going. The composition is spot on. My ears are zooming in on the saturation. I think if you play around with a multi-band saturator, you can pull out the mid band clarity without loosing the overall grit. Most admirable, your full on dedication for sound sculpting! That's what UP! Keep it rolling Aaron, this is hot.

Peace,
Mark
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 26th Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
Mark, how's it goin' Mister? I hope your holiday was good, and just how you needed it to be.

First of all, thank you for not only listening, but listening deep enough to be able to leave some critique. That is absolutely crucial for improvement, and I don't think a lot of people here understand that.
Since I'm just a self-taught producer, I've kind of missed a lot of important tricks and tools. Moreover, the discipline to go find them. I looked into multiband saturation, and you absolutely correct. I'll work on getting that set up and played with. I don't think I'll re-re-reupload though. Just like "third time is the charm," so is "Third time is good enough" HA!
Anyhow, I listened to the track you posted for me to check out, but it was only once on my phone speaker, while trying to distract an 8 week old Doberman puppy from tearing down the tree. I had planned on coming back to check it out with the respect it deserved, but you had already changed it. None the less. I'm honored that you would do that for me, and I don't take the gesture lightly.
With much respect, Sir, do take care.
Aaron.
dimestop
dimestop 24th Dec 2025 23:22 - 10 months ago
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AmoniaBlue
AmoniaBlue 24th Dec 2025 21:17 - 10 months ago
This awesome. It gives me big White Zombie/Rob Zombie vibes.
Love it.

AB
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 24th Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
Thank you. Originally I was going for "The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste" era Ministry vibes. But as usual, it kind of morphed into what IT wanted to be.
Thanks again for listening and commenting. I appreciate it greatly.
Take care.
V.
DanMed
DanMed 22nd Dec 2025 09:42 - 10 months ago
It's overall feeling, but vocals had huge impact on that feeling for sure.
It instantly dragged me in, and my brain started creating scenes in my head.
Thats why it's cinematic to me. Something like Rammstein music.
Anyway, great job, I'm really digging that industrial sound from you.
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 24th Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
Fair enough! Thanks for actually taking time to answer. I always enjoy back and forth in the comments.
I like the fact that it started creating scenes for you. It means I did an alright job at creating a piece with "feel" as opposed to just sound.
Thanks for getting back to me, Dan. I appreciate it!
Take care.
Cyberflares
Cyberflares 22nd Dec 2025 06:25 - 10 months ago
The bass sounds better in the mix now like its meant to be and the guitars but personally i would of left the bass that tad higher so it was leading but thats just my choice lol sounds perfect to me man good job :)
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 24th Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
I did readjust the bass. I didn't really bump it up at all, but I did clean the low-mids so it's not so muddy. Thank you for giving it a second go, and the suggestion!
Take care, Robin!

Aaron
DanMed
DanMed 21st Dec 2025 23:09 - 10 months ago
I love what you done here. Really powerful and cinematic.
Great job!
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 21st Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
Thanks, Dan. I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. I am curious though, I wonder what your interpretation of "cinematic" is. Especially in this case. I wonder if it's the vocal samples from cinema that gives you that feeling, or if the track itself somehow invokes a cinematic feel overall.
Either way, thank you again!
Take care.
V.
Kayos2
Kayos2 20th Dec 2025 13:29 - 10 months ago
So much vitality and movement in this - it reminds me f the Grand Prix theme tune 'The Chain' by Fleetwood Mac - (if you can find that track, listen from 3 mins 38 seconds in) Festive wishes from Kayos2
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 21st Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
At first I was struggling to see how you were able to connect Fleetwod Mac to this track. That's just something I thought I'd never hear. Valvedriver and Fleetwood Mac in the same sentence. But after going back and listening to The Chain again, I can totally see where you're coming from. What a cool connection!
Thanks, Kay. I appreciate you swinging by and having a listen and a comment.
Take care.
V.
AnthonyAttard
AnthonyAttard 20th Dec 2025 10:14 - 10 months ago
I do not know much about this genre but I surely can understand you've done an excellent work with this song. Actually it has been of professional level to my ears.
Best wishes, Anthony
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 21st Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
Anthony, thank you for your kind words. I appreciate it! I made quite a few changes to this track since you listened to it. If you ever listen to it again, I'd love to hear any feedback you may have.
Thanks again.
Take care.
V.
Cyberflares
Cyberflares 20th Dec 2025 06:47 - 10 months ago
ah nice bass man
i like a driving bass
guitar is good too
quality track man :)
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 21st Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
Thanks, Robin. I appreciate it. If you're interested enough to check it out again, I went back and edited the whole track. Like I told Aaron, it's the same...just more.
Either way, thanks for listening and commenting. I appreciate it.
Take care.
V.
TheMonzderSquadd
TheMonzderSquadd 20th Dec 2025 06:00 - 10 months ago
Dude all of your stuff is so freakin good! And youre a good critic as well as a good dude, its easy to see why my brother thinks so highly of you! Greatness man
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 21st Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
Thanks man. I appreciate it. Your brother does a fine job at things as well!
Take care.
V.
Pnnywze
Pnnywze 20th Dec 2025 05:24 - 10 months ago
Im putting in a motion to revive this genre - Gravity kills, Ministry, Stabbing Westward....man i need to go listen to some S.W. like right now! What a great forgotten band!
Pnnywze
Pnnywze 20th Dec 2025 05:12 - 10 months ago
Dude....this definitely has the vibe you're going for. Ministry's album Filth Pig comes to mind, especially the bass-forward march of the first minute and a half or so, and the backgroud vox as well. Also reminds me of Gravity Kills, another of my favorites from that time period. I only wish it had more guitar lol. Youre 100% my favorite artist here on LM, No Contendre.

Check out Gravity Kills - Blame Remix from the Escape from LA soundtrack - youll see right away where im coming from
ValveDriver
ValveDriver replied 21st Dec 2025 - 10 months ago
I discovered Ministry in 1989. Since then, I've been a die hard fan. They have a few that came out after FilthPig that I'm not real excited about. But I still love them just the same.
I did some (a lot of) rework on this track. In my opinion, it wasn't up to Valvedriver standards. Check it out again. It's the same...but more.
Take care, brother!
Mindway
Mindway 20th Dec 2025 04:20 - 10 months ago
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