Listen To Butterfly Effect - An Ultra Violet Apology Rock Song By Mahloo13 At Looperman.com

29th Nov 2016 23:52 - 9 years ago
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Description : The song will be featured in an upcoming mixing tutorial. It's my mix of this amazing song and the files are provided by Marc Gosselin for the Cambridge Multitrack library.

If you want to participate and do your own mix of this song you can download the stems/multitracks/individual files from here:

http://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms-mtk.htm#TheButterflyEffect_AnUltraVioletApology

Feel free to comment, love it, hate it etc.

Cheers!

Edit: I've updated the rough mix I've previously posted and decided to post the finished mix. It isn't mastered I just added a limiter to avoid any peaks on DA conversion.

Comments (6)

If you have time take a listen and give Mahloo13 some feedback.

MOONLYTE
MOONLYTE 30th May 2017 00:52 - 8 years ago
I love the vocal sound on this
BradoSanz
BradoSanz 2nd Dec 2016 05:13 - 9 years ago
I agree with referencing everywhere. My best mixed track "Angel in Disguise" was referenced in a lot of different environments and that helped me work out the flaws in my mixing. I wasn't able to do that with this mix so the effects are obvious. :) thanks again for the thorough replies as they are much appreciated. Apologies for any mistakes, I'm using my phone at the moment.
BradoSanz
BradoSanz 1st Dec 2016 23:50 - 9 years ago
I compared this one to mine, and I must say that yours is quite superior, particularly on low-quality sound systems. I compared on my phone and everything sits perfectly. I admire that. I must ask what you did to get the drum to sound so stable and thick?

Brado
Mahloo13
Mahloo13 replied 2nd Dec 2016 - 9 years ago
Hey Brado,

That was one of the things I wanted people to realize, that when you are mixing a record you are not solely mixing it for your environment or for your monitoring system and that mix needs to translate well on everything.

Nowadays people listen more and more on earbuds, laptop speakers, portable speakers, phones, tablets etc. so it's really essential to get a balance that works on everything. How you do that? well...you listen, listen on multiple playback sources, use reference tracks etc., of course after a while experience kicks in and you basically know without crossreferencing if it sounds good everywhere. A good way to set balances (at least for me) is to monitor at really low volumes as that clearly evidentiates to me atleast what stands out and what doesn't.

As for the drums sound, I almost always add samples, even if they are really low in volume. I might add a kick sample that has more low end and one that has a nice midrange and some top and blend those with the original then buss those to an aux and eq them overall as one piece so basically I'm using the samples as EQ. The same goes for snare although I trigger just one sample which is really close tone wise to the original snare and use that to emphazise lows and highs and trigger a reverb, that way I get a clean reverb sound without all the spill. Sometimes if the drums are clean enough I'll get my samples from the actual tracks.

A lot of my sound comes from my EQ curves, I tend to boost a lot in the low end and the high end to get a really hyped EQ curve (the smiley face curve if you wish to call it that) and then compress and use another EQ to round off any edges.

The biggest secret is automation though. I use a lot of automation especially in the overheads and the toms and the room tracks. Recently I've started using parallel compression as well so during the chorus I'll unmute the paralllel compressed track for more punch...or I just duplicate the kick track for example and use the second track as a parallel track just for volume.

Sounds complicated but the secret is really in riding those faders and making everything exciting and dynamic.

Cheers!
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 1st Dec 2016 22:27 - 9 years ago
Well, being a bit of a guitar addict for life you gotta know I`m loving this one...great tone and the kind of playing style that wraps itself around the vocal perfectly...nothing overstated...just the eloquent bits...I`m admiring the tones, levels & placement...and not to understate the vocal...some voices just fit the music like it was meant to be....like this one. I think the production really evidences some of the comments/advice you have made in the past Malu...particularly the concept of compression steps, with each designed to be in a particular place for a specific purpose rather than nailing the entire mix to manage levels....superb bit of work...and its a great song...the kind of melodic slow rock I could listen to for a very long time......Cheers...Ed
Mahloo13
Mahloo13 replied 2nd Dec 2016 - 9 years ago
Thank you Ed!

I also love guitar and guitar tone and I could probably spend days just recreating diferent amp tones. An amazing instrument!

There are definitely some cool tricks one can do with compressors especially if each is used for a specific purpose. Compressors are really hated on cause a lot of people missunderstood the concept behind the loudness wars and have since thought of compressors as something that's a no no when it comes to mixing. Compressing even overcompressing can yield interesting results and sonic characters. It comes down to experimentation really.

Thank you once again for the great review!
theHumps
theHumps 30th Nov 2016 12:53 - 9 years ago
First off, it's very generous to post the stems for mixing practice. Thanks! Cool track, rock is such an awesomely diverse genre that a cool slower paced song can still have balls.

The song doesn't sound over processed or too loud, I'm impressed for sure. Interesting how you processed the vocals. I use only stock compressors in Ableton and I notice how my songs compare to more professional mixes by not having more quality compressors. Or it could be mixing with my old ears, lol.

I'll check out the tut for sure. Appreciate you posting them as they help put new ideas in my head.

Cheers
Mahloo13
Mahloo13 replied 30th Nov 2016 - 9 years ago
Hello Wayne!

The choice of compressors is irrelevant..as I've said many times the emulations just provide a certain vibe and allow me to get results faster as I already know what they deliver so it's easy to just reach for a certain vibe. You can pretty much get the same results with stock plugins, it's all a matter of getting to properly use attack, release and threshold controls on any given compressor.

For example to replicate this particular scenario you could ride the level of the vocals going into your stock compressor which would have a 3:1 or 2:1 ratio a slow attack and pretty fast release, while the second compressor would have a 4:1 ratio with a medium attack and a fast release and the third would be something like 2:1 for ratio and slow attack and medium release. Again you would have to listen in context and see how the compressors react from word to word and how they muffle or brighten the sound, it's all in the ears honestly.

I've always said it...it's not the gear that mixes the song...it's the engineer.

Thank you for the review!
BradoSanz
BradoSanz 30th Nov 2016 02:40 - 9 years ago
This is awesome! Definitely will be checking out the tutorial. Beautiful work here,

Brado
Mahloo13
Mahloo13 replied 30th Nov 2016 - 9 years ago
Thank you Brado!

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