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Is this the sort of comment you were looking for? I strictly followed your rule of "please use only the Letter A, B and C in your comments" making sure not to leave a Blah blah blah (useless comment of amateur). Well, apart from these last words which you, of course, won't read.
As you won't read them I guess you won't be able to reply to my question as you won't even see it. Oh well...
Hello. You're really a master of these short, emotive, cinematic, beautiful pieces. I kind of say the same thing every time!
There's a real simplicity to what you do and there's often (seemingly) not that much going on in the mix, very much unlike my music work. It's also fairly recognisably your sound, which is another good thing.
A real gentle beauty to what you do but it's never boring stuff.
Very first piano type of sound here is great and there's some subtle percussive element behind it. What is that?
Then emotive strings building things up. Then maybe even some double bass hits or perhaps some other type of drum eg 0:37. A very acoustic, stringy sort of sound. Double bass?
1:10 I like the second string part that enters.
It's not the most original music ever made but it's just so very well done. Keep doing more...
Thanks again for your very detailed feedback here, enjoyed reading your thoughts.
You're right on saying there's not much going on, there's probably around 8 layers of main track but I dislike over doing it when it comes to this type of track, my intention was to have a track that can be easily used with a time lapse.
Behind the piano is part of the library which I used, nothing additional. I usually adjust the high/low/mid ranges a fair bit which creates some interesting results.
--- http://www.spitfireaudio.com/felt-piano
As far as I can remember, the track has a violin section and a cello section and then I'm using a nice sound from Project Sam's Orchestral Essentials to create a bigger sounding track. There's an additional brass layer which is from CineSamples CineBrass.
The 1:10 string section is my favourite. I got a great feeling after adding that in and hearing it for the first time. There's your Spitfire Audio Symphonic Strings.
I agree, nothing too original hear as I was inspired by composers who create the quick strings (as heard throughout the track), not quite sure what the musical term is for it.
Hi. I started up a forum thread about favourite ever tracks on Looperman and Evisma chose this very track as one of his favourites. I thought you might like to know
You should check the thread out and contribute too.
Anyway, this is some interesting stuff. Kind of ridiculous with the cat thing but the vocals are actually really good. Some pretty strong, soaring tunes in there and the timbre of your voice is good. It's a bit of a singalong thing I could imagine in a southern bar.
The vocals all go perfectly with those loops. Maybe you're asking for someone to use the vocals and completely replace the music. I'm not sure so let me know.
Congrats on an interesting piece of music and good vocal performance.
Regreetings. No problem with the Over And Over bassline. Still don’t know what you think of that bassline/song. Would be interesting if you thought it was awful. My guess is you’re just using a similar synth bass sound.
Great to hear you’re so happy with your guitar. I have no ability for building stuff or knowledge of electronics so you’re vastly superior in those areas. Would be fun to make my own guitar or bass. Or some sort of other strange hybrid. For instance, I’d really like a mohan veena, which is a cross between a guitar and sitar (with extra resonant strings) and all played with a bar, like a Weissenborn. Can’t buy mohan veenas in UK and I won’t buy one (ie import it) without first playing it.
I’d also like a 2-string slide bass, as played by the legendary Mark Sandman from Morphine. If I’m very nice to you, could you make me one? I’ll pick it up the next time I visit the US.
Have a look on Youtube as people have made 2 string basses designed specifically to be played with slide (more than 2/3 strings and slide playing gets awkward).
“my biggest dub influences would be The Clash and early Bauhaus”
No, they’re definitely not who I think of when I think of dub though I recognise some reggae/dub influence in some of The Clash’s stuff.
Silly me for not getting the Parallel Killer joke. I did have a look at your guitar after writing my review so now understand the parallel reference. Yes, maybe there are serial killers who do a couple at a time. But the ‘serial’ is a reference to doing it over and over and again, not how many are killed at a time. So, a series of killings could refer to any number of victims in each incident.
“groove loops, which contain more than one instrument class.”
Yes, I like to have everything separate for greater control. And so I don’t feel like a slave to that configuration of sounds ie the original loop.
Hello again! The mohan veenas that you speak of sounds quite interesting! I bet they sound cool. That guitar is definitely not my last acoustic electric instrument build, just not sure what's next. Been to into expanding my modular set up lately to think to deeply on the subject. I was actually thinking a two string sort of instrument would be fun to build. I think a two string would be far easier, as there would be quite a bit less tension on the neck and body as compared to four or six. If I feel it's a possibility I'll let you know.
Don't worry, it seems like very few people listen to Bauhaus any more, maybe slightly moreso the Clash.
I'm glad I helped clarify the Parallel Killer thing. It brings to mind some kind of creepy machine that thrusts a rack of blades into several restrained victims simultaneously with the turn of a crank or something. ooo scary.
It's fun to use loops in unconventional ways sometimes. I've been enjoying finding a loop that I like the rhythm or groove of, and using that to help create totally separate sequences then doing away with the original.
Indeed I did miss your wonderful conversation about snow tubing, whatever that is. Send me a link or reproduce it here if you think I’d like it.
When I said "computer game shit", I didn’t mean it was actually shit, more like just “stuff”. I’m sure you didn’t think I meant it was shit. I also doubt your last EP was shit but I haven’t heard it. So it could be. Maybe you should go back and polish that turd.
“bassline took longer to compose than anything else”
Yes, I can hear lots of careful work going on with that.
My work is largely about groove so getting bass and drums tight can take a while. And getting them really good allows me to play other instruments much better off them. If the groove is cool, it inspires much better playing whereas if things are too messy, the guitar playing, for instance, can seem to clash with the bass and drums foundation.
“I needed to make sure it didn't get boring no matter how many times it was played”
That’s always my aim. This track has lots of energy and isn’t too long. I could have done with some new stuff in the second half but I wouldn’t say it gets boring, just that I didn’t have much to pick out to comment on.
Yes, raise the level of the “time is a” part so that we can actually hear the line. Right now all I can hear is the bitch.
“your probs my best source of constructive criticism”
No problem. I pretty much do the same for everyone one I review on here. If I like something, I see it as my duty to explain why rather than just single or double sentence “nice track bro”-ing. Way too much of that round here. If something’s good, I think of the amount of time and care someone has spent on it and try to recognise that and point out the good details, as well as the bad/could be better.
I always tend to think that it’s pretty irrelevant if some anonymous person on the internet just says they like your track whereas that same anonymous person giving such actual detail about different sections can be quite valuable. And when you know a commenter’s music, it can be quite interesting to see what they liked or didn’t like.
Haha, yeah I got that you meant "stuff". But even if you did mean "shit" I wouldn't disagree.
"My work is largely about groove so getting bass and drums tight can take a while."
I actually use a groove sequencer as my DAW, which works pretty well for house. Every song starts off as a single phrase and once I've got something awesome I can then work out what I need to do to get to it in a way that shows it off as much as possible. Once that's over I then have to figure out a way to do it again but with even more impact than the first time, so for example I did that on this track by adding strings.
I've realized this isn't the best way of working so I'm trying to figure out better ways of doing that. The song i'm working on now for example very subtly evolves. While it may seem repetitive, if you skipped back and forth between the start and end you'd find the song has changed more than you may have thought.
Also, I must admit I've done the “nice track bro” thing quite a bit. I try to justify it by saying that I don't think i'm a good enough producer to be handing out advice but that's just a bullshit excuse, I need to stop being lazy. :/
Great chilling, fat beat and the leads are melodic. Strings sit well in the background. Definitely needs to go somewhere else as it's really too short a track.
Skittery computer game shit to kick things and then a fat, fat, compelling beat.
"building little mechanisms"
I feel I can hear lots of little klokwerky things going on all the time as additional percussion.
1:16 that's a killer little bassline slowly fading in and getting stronger.
1:33 "bitch" vocal? Cool little drop there and then you give that bassline the fat beat it was crying out for. Great, busy fun now that people will enjoy on dancefloors in many places.
Another klokwerky breakdown at 3:04 and then some background strings entering. Then that killer bass returning over the moving machinery.
The rest is similar to what's already come before but it's all good stuff.
No particular suggestions from me as you have your own style, which is evolving and progressing nicely.
Congrats on your distinctive musical/personal character as I do often enjoy your posts and comments on this site. "Just sprinkled some pubes on it" is still the best!
I laughed at you calling it "computer game shit", coz that's pretty much what my last EP was, and what i'm trying to get away from (and it really WAS shit. However, that arp starts to sound like a gazelle in the drop which is a happy accident, lol.
As simple as it is, that bassline took longer to compose than anything else. House tracks are pretty repetitive so I needed to make sure it didn't get boring no matter how many times it was played, I feel I did well.
Also 1:33 she says "Time is a bitch", I knew the 'bitch' part was a lot more audible being higher pitched and on the last beat but maybe I should slightly amplify the first part?
Anyway glad you like the track. I like how in-depth you go on your critiques, your probs my best source of constructive criticism so thanks. Also you missed out on a (wonderful) conversation between "15ludwicke" and I about "snow tubing" lol.
Yo. Me back yet again. I started up a forum thread about favourite ever tracks on Looperman and I chose this track as one of my favourites. I thought you'd want to know.
Maybe people will come check this out a bit more because of my choice. Or maybe they won't! It really does deserve more plays and feedback. Will anyone other than me ever get round to commenting on it?
Why not let us know your top Looperman tracks. Post them on that same thread. There’s some serious quality there and I’ve learned about lots of great tracks I’d never heard of before.
This is pretty cool stuff. I still haven't gone and checked out the original loops but I like the flutey sounding one that kicks things off. Actually, I don't like it much out on its own but it sounds good when it has some low end behind it.
0:28 is where things get going for me. Great simple notes and lots of space to let them ring out. This sounds totally different to Spivkurl's track, which I think is excellent.
2:04 new percussive loop is effective as this is a fairly repetitive track so it's interesting listening out for the new elements you bring in.
2:33 is that chugging guitar? Maybe not but the tone reminds me of chugging, palm muted, distorted guitar. And then you change the processing on it so that by 3:05 it definitely sounds like a guitar part.
3:49 some fun filtering.
I prefer stuff that's not quite so repetitive but all your elements are good and you work them skilfully.
Hey StaticNomad,
Thanks for the review!
Had fun making this one.
0:28: I'm really pleased at the way that synth sounds when it enters.
2:04: That's actually a plate break sound effect that I threw in just for kicks.
2:33: That is indeed chugging guitar in the background. I had a loop lying around that I repitched. What you actually hear in the high part that sounds like a guitar is that piano loop repitched and effected.
3:49: Filtered guitar is actually one of my all time favorite sounds, especially if the cutoff changes.
This might be my favourite track of yours. Yet again, you've got a bassline that reminds me of Hot Chip's one good song - Over And Over. I'm sure I've noticed that in at least 3 of your tracks. Just as well it's a fine bassline.
Damn cool stuff and I haven't yet bothered to check what the loops are.
Guitar starting at 0:06. Totally different to how I play. Has a cool, lo-fi, home-made (yes, I know it is) sort of delta bluesman quality to it and you're really grooving with it. But in a chilled funky groove track with quite a hip hop vibe so some interesting genre mergers.
3:25 do I hear a bit of slide on that guitar? You know I'm just a little into that...
I'm not really hearing the dub that other people are talking about. Maybe a bit from the bass.
1:07 weirdness of the sort I'd expect from you. Bit too discordant for me but kind of goes with the vibe.
WTF is a Parallel Killer Guitar ie why that name?
I'll be very (pleasantly) surprised if anyone else has managed to make as good a track using those loops.
Could have been longer though it's still a good length.
Might return for more detail but these are some of my initial thoughts.
Hey friend, thank you for listening! It's interesting that you hear a bass line similar to Hot Chip (which I remember you mentioned on another song), and also which you noticed in other tracks of mine. You can trust me when I say that this is not intentional at all, and it confuses and frustrates me a little. I obviously need to be a bit more creative. Makes me happy you enjoyed the guitar playing on this. I really was just trying to feel a groove and get accustomed to the new guitar, but I have to admit that since I finished that guitbox I can't pick it up without really feeling comfortable. Like I've never played a guitar that felt like mine before. I'm sure you understand. Yes, you definitely hear some slide work on this one. That was part of the intention with the setup on the guitar, to be like a hybrid between normal playing and lap slide work. The Manoloff nut really helps with this, as the action is just the right height for slide work, and also low enough to be minimal in detuning when fretted. Found my slide on the street somewhere many years ago. It's interesting that you don't hear dub in here, we must listen to different examples of dub. I guess my biggest dub influences would be The Clash and early Bauhaus, not traditional dub reggae. Between the skanky rhythm parts and the effects used it just suggested dub to me. The discord you speak of is basically because this song was started before the Loop Challenge, and I shaped the loops to fit my ideas. Not always easy. Regarding the Parallel Killer Guitar, I kind of thought of the name because of the passive electronic configuration, which is parallel as opposed to serial... then I thought about serial killers, then I thought that parallel killing would be much more effective... you know several people at once, as opposed to one after another. There it was, parallel killer. The loops were a challenge, as I wouldn't normally go for groove loops, which contain more than one instrument class. I tried to make them sound like I wanted, as opposed to how they were. "Could have been longer," it's what I would expect from you, so I won't worry about it. Thank you for leaving one of your classic comments, and for listening! Appreciated!
Hi. I started up a forum thread about favourite ever tracks on Looperman and promenade2239 chose this very track as one of his favourites. I thought you might like to know. I'm glad he did because I'd never heard of you and this is an excellent piece of music.
I owe you a big apology for not replying any sooner!
Thank you very much for creating an extra platform for members likes. In addition thanks for listening to the track. Glad you like it. As mentioned in my reply to Domenico, the bass sound was quite a job to get right. But I do like the result of other listener's input on it. And your comment on the 80's hip-hop vibe was given before too (although it was never my intention to create something like that at all :-)).
Yes, there is a Rhodes playing chords. I just love the Rhodes and use it many tracks, since it creates the atmosphere I like so much. Just a few simple chords can actually direct the whole track.
Yeah, the vocals... :-). Just thought to do something very little a bit differently.
Anyway, many thanks for your feedback and compliments man! Much appreciated.
Hi. I just started up a forum thread about favourite ever tracks on Looperman and GramoChopin chose this very track as one of his favourites. I thought you might like to know. He hopes you come back here to do some more badass d'n'b.
Yo. Me back yet again. I started up a forum thread about favourite tracks on Looperman and I chose this track as one of my favourites. I thought you'd want to know.
Yo again. I just started up a forum thread about favourite tracks on Looperman and I chose this very track as one of my favourites. I thought you'd want to know.
Oh Hell Yes man!! thats what im Talking About!!! Lets fire this competition Up!!! Thank you for selecting my track as one of your fav's in the competition. That means more than you will ever know to me... Hearing other great , Avid musicians tell me these things about songs ive put alot of heart into makes me pumped up and crunk!! and inspires me to get back on the grind with my music (Hopefully after i knock out this last few weeks of Holiday overtime at work). Will be keeping tabs on the competition and Yours, as well as others profiles/music. Props, and PEace out, Thanks Again, Happy Holidays!
Greetings. What a long and involved track! Reviewing it feels a bit like the challenge of reviewing one of mine, except it's shorter. Definitely reminds me of some of my stuff though also quite different.
Other thoughts:
Nice initial intro but that low hit on 0:40 sounds like it should be the intro to the whole thing. It's just a neater, more compelling start. Some good clanging stuff then and a big, powerful soundscape.
1:24 cool, glacial pad and vocal tone slowly seeping in.
2:10 shimmering synth thing. Then some beautiful strings. That's the first Irish sort of stuff I hear in this.
3:17 vocal very beautiful.
3:32 finally a beat and it's a good one.
3:52 and beat gets fatter, as I'd hoped for. Thundering bass heavy "world music" that reminds me a little of a guy on here called n0mad23 (no relation to me).
Powerful, evolving soundscape stuff to get lost in. Some elements are a little like Enigma. Remember them?
5:44 a note and tone I really like. Makes a big difference.
Surprised not to hear any Tumbleweed guitar in this.
7:00 hats drop and we hear the tone of those drums better.
I'm quite familiar with this sort of sound and really appreciate it but don't love it. Would probably like it more out at some sort of chillout club or festival rather than for home listening.
Hi mate...I must say I'm really grateful for this comprehensive feedback (I wish I had less tight schedule and some of your special passion to be able to do the same detailed reviews on other people's work, but my decision is on investing those precious bits of free time on making more music than anything else).
Yeah, this is now one of my longest tracks and I'm glad you found quite some elements of it pleasing and exciting although it's not quite the stuff for your home listening, as you say.
The Guit-Fiddle Pluckmeister here, typing these words from the g-fiddle neck, with it hooked up to the QWERTY keyboard. I can pluck 100 words per minute, no mistakes. Thumb slaps for capital letters, palm muting for full stops and so on.
Is this song about celebrities (stars) who give fascist salutes? Here's one who has done just that.
I think the PRS might be your 'star' here, with all its twinkly lead work.
Busy, crashing drums to kick shit off. Until 0:18 it's twin bass-guit twiddling and then a proper bassline. It's good to lose it and crashing drums at 0:34 to give things more space and hear that taiko loop. A bit tribal there.
1:05 don't much like snare. Cymbals seem a bit thin. Drums need more low end in them, less high.
1:18-1:21 good high rise up the PRS neck. Frenetic stuff.
Why not make the intro before crashing drums come in a bit longer? The whole thing is a bit frenetic so more space, more chilling, would work as a good contrast. Try playing fewer notes in some sections. Will make the busy stuff cooler as a change.
0:57 a good little reverse bit there and a few other places (I think).
Overall: not as nice as some of your nicest tracks bro but still that essential thing musical bros all over the world strive for: a nice track bro.
"Is this song about celebrities (stars) who give fascist salutes? "
More along the lines of what the highest order of galactic badass would do while meandering through the cosmos. Just a daydream, that's all. I get a lot of those. Just a picture of something in my head and then I kinda put a scene to it.
Got an odd image in my head once of an ungodly huge horde of filthy people, barely lit by the weak sun, staring into the sun with great fear and strain. They're all telekinetics who are together holding back the sun's death. Thousands of telekinetics using their collective ability to contain a supernova. Neat image in my head,.... got nothing to do with it.
"The whole thing is a bit frenetic so more space, more chilling, would work as a good contrast"
It's hard for me to enjoy the drawn out parts and repetition. It works for your music because your stuff is more of a funky jam,(or several) that you put together and embellish upon. I don't know what mine is, but it seems more regimented and not nearly as "free". I understand what you're saying, but space and chilling isn't what I'm going for. I can see that it's too busy though, so some middle ground will be found.
"1:05 don't much like snare. Cymbals seem a bit thin. Drums need more low end in them, less high."
That drum kit was my major hang-up when it came to uploading this. I went through all my kits and never found one that seemed to fit. I also had to cut some lows because they were conflicting, so there are some mix issues that need to be addressed.
This one, really, is just a test or the PRS. There is way more guitar in here than I would like.
We'll talk again on this, I'm sure. Definitely not done.
Hey. I found this track by going through tracks at random. I won't say too much as you haven't replied to the other comments.
But I will say it's some good chilling music. Lots of beauty here. I'm not that keen on the vocals. I can hear what she's trying to do, there just seems to be something a bit off with her pitch. Just not quite right.
Yo. The string intro is a bit surprising for what is a pretty funky track. No idea it's funk from that intro.
I don't really like those vocals much. Guess they're OK.
I do like how the drum groove fades in. And also the fade in of the chugging guitar.
1:19 higher funk g is cool and now stuff sits nicely. Still with that string note in there. When it drops at1:41 some killer funk bass takes over. I guess that's a loop.
You could definitely improve the drums, which are a little thin. But it's a decent, pretty good fun, chillout funky track. Quite creative and not predictable.
Look, FreeRad: you've got to show me love. Especially at 6:30. That house organ loop says it loud and clear: You've Got To Show Me Love.
Anyway, before then you're teasing us with not dropping that beat until 1:30. Good buildup to it and this is your usual skilfully made boom-tish stuff.
2:00 vocals stand out as very cool. Definite dancefloor banger here.
3:00 and here we go, yo with that pullback to a fat bassline.
Good vocal return on 5:30 and then they fade out nicely before we get to the showing me love section.
7:30 brass is awesome. Is that just a straight bunch of samples or have you arranged them to make up that strong melody line?
8:12 vocals are cool. A chorus of a few people singing something euphoric. Probably not in English. Makes me think of Brazil (country, not Terry Gilliam film).
Good work, as per usual. Nothing I didn't like in here, just a few highlights I thought I'd point out.
Yeah, the Robin S thing was a complete coincidence. I wasn't thinking that at all when I threw it together. Both the brass and the vocals were just samples that happened to work. The only thing it took was time to find them. I keep telling myself to ditch the loops and write something but a lot of the loops sound better than the stuff I actually produce so I figure "what the hell" if I can take someone elses crap and build around it then why not?
Thanks as always for stopping by and bronies are wankers. That's all I have to say on that matter.
Cheers.
FR
Yes, your waveform is so strange I’m kind of intrigued and am thinking about posting a question and link about it on some other audiophile forum. Maybe this one too. It seems almost like some sort of (visual) error. It looks like there’s a strong signal left and then right but the track is fully panned across the spectrum so I’m confused again. It doesn’t sound as it looks.
Wow, that guitar feedback noise is great at 2:45. So very powerful but, as I said, a bit too powerful and piercing.
Is it your guitar playing?
Yes, EQing stuff and turning things down would help, especially as this is a cool genre-merging track that deserves the very best mix. Chart stardom then beckons!
Congrats again and I must check out some of your other stuff. Not that I’m really into chiptune. But maybe you will pleasantly surprise me...
Hi. Don't think I've seen your name on here before.
First thing is that that is one crazy waveform! How hell do you get it to look like that? I don't understand but I want one of my tracks to look like that.
Danke's right that there is a bit of a RATM riff there at 0:28. Cool stuff.
Then that vocal is really very commercial but pretty good.
1:06 that vocal "say, say, say" has got to be turned down as it's really quite harsh and piercing.
1:25 that offbeat synth makes me think of reggae.
This is really quite catchy stuff that sounds like it could be a big chart hit. It's a bit too loud and squashed a mix for me but that's all the rage these days so you maybe you like it too.
I might say a bit more for later but think this will do for a first review of a track of yours.
Congrats.
Oh and 2:45 noise is cool but way, way too loud and piercing. What the hell is that sound anyway?
Thanks man! I have no idea why the waveform looks like that myself :S The noise at 2.45 is guitar feedback, I agree it's a little too loud, I think I'll EQ everything again at some point. This is a new genre for me to be making (at least electronically) I usually do chiptune-ish stuff, so I have plenty to learn.
Thanks again for feedback ^_^
So, finally a bit more detail from me, as promised, as it's quite an interesting track.
When I said (in a rush) that the drums were a bit weak, I think I just meant that brush snare. You're right that the drums don't interfere with the vocal (which is kind of the main thing) and makes it quite a pop type of production. Like some modern r'n'b. It's the hats, the keyboards and vocals that stand out as the main elements in the track.
1:14-1:17 good drum fill.
1:31 guitar solo is a bit of a surprise. Fits just fine but that guitar sound isn't anywhere else in the track (I think) so it's a surprise but a good one.
Rimshot might work rather than that brush snare but I don't really have a huge problem with it so don't worry about it.
2:32 I noticed the funky bass and then read your track description describing it. It's still very much sitting behind the vocal so quite subtle.
You could give the track a big lift and different identity if you really brought that slap bass out and changed to a different, heavier drum kit. Could be a fun thing to do as a finale but not to worry if you don't. You don't really need it as her vocal does quite enough anyway.
Hope the additional thoughts help in some very minor way. Again, great work that justifies the considerable number of comments received.
Just love the way your very keen ear and eloquent writing makes a critical analysis of the track. Such a great read.
Firstly I'm glad you found the track interesting. That's good. I love putting drum fills in (it's my favourite instrument) so nice of you to pick up on that. Surprising solos is my trademark. The track needed some contrast and I tried all kind of things before settling on an acoustic guitar solo (albeit played on an electric). Pleased you don't have a problem with the rimshot instead of the brush hitting the snare. I guess if you had produced this song the outcome would have been quite different. As it is the aim was not to swamp the vocal or let anything get in it's way. I have actually mixed this without any percussion whatsoever. Sounds great!
My funky bass was a bit of a surprise to me if I'm honest. I only have one slap lick I can do on the bass and it seemed to fit nicely. Bonus! Yes you are absolutely correct I could have given the track a completely different identity with a funkier slap bass and heavier drums. The risk is destroying the integrity of the vocal and as I wasn't in a position to put Farisha back into the vocal booth and ask for a slightly more aggressive approach I had to work with what I had.
Always happy to hear thoughts and comments so thank you very much for taking the time to put together a detailed appraisal. Much appreciated.
Well, sticking the metal riffage in there is a definite an unusual combination so I can see why you've put this under 'weird'.
Quite a nice tinkly intro and then some heavier, long bas notes that provide a good ambience. Odd vocals. Maybe vocoded a bit? But they're quite ethereal, which is good.
I guess the metal riffs fit though I'd say the drum sound when they come in needs to be heavier though perhaps you're not trying to turn it into a proper metal track. I'd still prefer a more powerful drum sound.
3:54 change is a bit strange. Not sure it fits the rest. Kind of like a new track now, with the metal really breaking out.
Then, 5:06, you bring the vocals back. Again: a strange combination of guitar and vocals so definitely an unusual track. I didn't love it but do like it and also respect the creativity and leftfield approach to doing things.
First of all thanks for your feedback and your kind words.
about the vocals sounding like they are being vocoded, is because I am using vocaloid, the voices you are hearing are actually not human but robots, so you are right about the vocoding bit.
the drums indeed are very weak, but also this track is very old, iI made it last year, (I started this album in 2013) and now I have a bit more experience with mixing and making kicks more powerfull and more clear.
at the last weird part, it's mostly because I ignore regular music patterns, I usually like to blend soft floating vocals with for example rough or hard music, and sometimes I don't, it's what I feel like making when I am working on it mostly.
"Hvordan har du det? looks like Dannish, but I figured it out"
Yes, it is Danish. I used to live in Denmark a long time ago so learned to read Danish OK though not really speak it very well. I can still remember a few phrases though not much Swedish. I just went there for one day in 1990 (Malmo).
I would not have guessed that the vocal sound is "demolished guitar". That's a strange sound.
Cool to hear you're using Superior Drummer now as it's great fun and very powerful. You can hear it all over many of my tracks though a lot of what you hear is EZ Drummer Expansion Packs, which it also plays. I have most of them and am about to buy the new Reggae kit, which looks excellent. They're not very expensive and if you keep collecting them, you end up with so many different types of drumming (in the MIDI files each different pack gives you) as well as the quite different kits. My favourites are probably Metalheads, Claustrophobic, Americana and the Sticks Superior Pack.
There are a good few Superior/EZ users on the site (Valvedriver, Promenade2239, RichieWinn, srbrown7, thehumps etc) so let's hear what you can do with it. It's not such an obvious thing for making dance music so you'll probably now add more of an acoustic drum sound to your style.
Thank you!
The first thing I faced was the lack of non supporting VST interface in Reason. Connecting the solo player with reason was no problem but the problem is that the solo player is taking ownership of the sound card. No problem, so I bought a new sound card but then again i have to map the outbound signal to the other sound card and then sample the signal. That was not the way I wanted to work!
But I'll give it a try!
Hi. It's rare that I see much debate going on in Looperman comments. Not sure why that's mostly reserved just for the forums.
I'm a bit confused as this is a fine track but I'm not really hearing obvious autotune. It's something I generally dislike if I can clearly hear it.
Farisha is a fine vocalist (I checked out that Youtube video you linked) and can sing jazz too. I heard much more obvious autotune on another recent track of hers. But, still, I'm struggling to hear the obvious bits here. They're just great vocals!
Anyway, your accompaniment is good to though I'll return and offer some more detail. My only criticism for now is a slightly weak drum kit, though it's no big deal. I'm also a Superior user and use the one brush kit that I have (from the Roots and Sticks packs) quite a bit. I love brush drums.
Hi. Yes I thought for a minute that my track review page had turned into a forum posting!!! Ah well it's good when Loopers have a point to make and do it regardless. You have to applaud the passion I guess. That said I'm very much with you on this and don't see what all the fuss is about.
A "weak drumkit" you think? Hmmmm! Not sure I agree but my goal was not to swamp the vocal. I wanted something playing sixteens on the hi hat but using sticks it just didn't sound right. I don't have the Roots and Sticks pack so thanks for the pointer - I will check it out.
Glad you think it's a fine track which is a great compliment. Thank you.
on The Italian Job by ZankFrappa
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Is this the sort of comment you were looking for? I strictly followed your rule of "please use only the Letter A, B and C in your comments" making sure not to leave a Blah blah blah (useless comment of amateur). Well, apart from these last words which you, of course, won't read.
As you won't read them I guess you won't be able to reply to my question as you won't even see it. Oh well...
Here's you copied reply:
"I never really learned my theory as I should have so I've had no choice but to make it up as I go along."
on JAweGuy - Eterna by JAweGuy
There's a real simplicity to what you do and there's often (seemingly) not that much going on in the mix, very much unlike my music work. It's also fairly recognisably your sound, which is another good thing.
A real gentle beauty to what you do but it's never boring stuff.
Very first piano type of sound here is great and there's some subtle percussive element behind it. What is that?
Then emotive strings building things up. Then maybe even some double bass hits or perhaps some other type of drum eg 0:37. A very acoustic, stringy sort of sound. Double bass?
1:10 I like the second string part that enters.
It's not the most original music ever made but it's just so very well done. Keep doing more...
Thanks again for your very detailed feedback here, enjoyed reading your thoughts.
You're right on saying there's not much going on, there's probably around 8 layers of main track but I dislike over doing it when it comes to this type of track, my intention was to have a track that can be easily used with a time lapse.
Behind the piano is part of the library which I used, nothing additional. I usually adjust the high/low/mid ranges a fair bit which creates some interesting results.
--- http://www.spitfireaudio.com/felt-piano
As far as I can remember, the track has a violin section and a cello section and then I'm using a nice sound from Project Sam's Orchestral Essentials to create a bigger sounding track. There's an additional brass layer which is from CineSamples CineBrass.
The 1:10 string section is my favourite. I got a great feeling after adding that in and hearing it for the first time. There's your Spitfire Audio Symphonic Strings.
I agree, nothing too original hear as I was inspired by composers who create the quick strings (as heard throughout the track), not quite sure what the musical term is for it.
Thanks!
- JAweGuy
on your cat yeah by MetalEd
https://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/182742/what-are-your-favourite-tracks-on-looperman
You should check the thread out and contribute too.
Anyway, this is some interesting stuff. Kind of ridiculous with the cat thing but the vocals are actually really good. Some pretty strong, soaring tunes in there and the timbre of your voice is good. It's a bit of a singalong thing I could imagine in a southern bar.
The vocals all go perfectly with those loops. Maybe you're asking for someone to use the vocals and completely replace the music. I'm not sure so let me know.
Congrats on an interesting piece of music and good vocal performance.
on Breaking Blue L00P CHALLENGE by Spivkurl
Great to hear you’re so happy with your guitar. I have no ability for building stuff or knowledge of electronics so you’re vastly superior in those areas. Would be fun to make my own guitar or bass. Or some sort of other strange hybrid. For instance, I’d really like a mohan veena, which is a cross between a guitar and sitar (with extra resonant strings) and all played with a bar, like a Weissenborn. Can’t buy mohan veenas in UK and I won’t buy one (ie import it) without first playing it.
I’d also like a 2-string slide bass, as played by the legendary Mark Sandman from Morphine. If I’m very nice to you, could you make me one? I’ll pick it up the next time I visit the US.
Have a look on Youtube as people have made 2 string basses designed specifically to be played with slide (more than 2/3 strings and slide playing gets awkward).
“my biggest dub influences would be The Clash and early Bauhaus”
No, they’re definitely not who I think of when I think of dub though I recognise some reggae/dub influence in some of The Clash’s stuff.
Silly me for not getting the Parallel Killer joke. I did have a look at your guitar after writing my review so now understand the parallel reference. Yes, maybe there are serial killers who do a couple at a time. But the ‘serial’ is a reference to doing it over and over and again, not how many are killed at a time. So, a series of killings could refer to any number of victims in each incident.
“groove loops, which contain more than one instrument class.”
Yes, I like to have everything separate for greater control. And so I don’t feel like a slave to that configuration of sounds ie the original loop.
Again: nice track, bro.
Don't worry, it seems like very few people listen to Bauhaus any more, maybe slightly moreso the Clash.
I'm glad I helped clarify the Parallel Killer thing. It brings to mind some kind of creepy machine that thrusts a rack of blades into several restrained victims simultaneously with the turn of a crank or something. ooo scary.
It's fun to use loops in unconventional ways sometimes. I've been enjoying finding a loop that I like the rhythm or groove of, and using that to help create totally separate sequences then doing away with the original.
Thank you for the rereview!
on Klokwerk by LivingInSilence
Indeed I did miss your wonderful conversation about snow tubing, whatever that is. Send me a link or reproduce it here if you think I’d like it.
When I said "computer game shit", I didn’t mean it was actually shit, more like just “stuff”. I’m sure you didn’t think I meant it was shit. I also doubt your last EP was shit but I haven’t heard it. So it could be. Maybe you should go back and polish that turd.
“bassline took longer to compose than anything else”
Yes, I can hear lots of careful work going on with that.
My work is largely about groove so getting bass and drums tight can take a while. And getting them really good allows me to play other instruments much better off them. If the groove is cool, it inspires much better playing whereas if things are too messy, the guitar playing, for instance, can seem to clash with the bass and drums foundation.
“I needed to make sure it didn't get boring no matter how many times it was played”
That’s always my aim. This track has lots of energy and isn’t too long. I could have done with some new stuff in the second half but I wouldn’t say it gets boring, just that I didn’t have much to pick out to comment on.
Yes, raise the level of the “time is a” part so that we can actually hear the line. Right now all I can hear is the bitch.
“your probs my best source of constructive criticism”
No problem. I pretty much do the same for everyone one I review on here. If I like something, I see it as my duty to explain why rather than just single or double sentence “nice track bro”-ing. Way too much of that round here. If something’s good, I think of the amount of time and care someone has spent on it and try to recognise that and point out the good details, as well as the bad/could be better.
I always tend to think that it’s pretty irrelevant if some anonymous person on the internet just says they like your track whereas that same anonymous person giving such actual detail about different sections can be quite valuable. And when you know a commenter’s music, it can be quite interesting to see what they liked or didn’t like.
Congrats again on your evolving sound.
"My work is largely about groove so getting bass and drums tight can take a while."
I actually use a groove sequencer as my DAW, which works pretty well for house. Every song starts off as a single phrase and once I've got something awesome I can then work out what I need to do to get to it in a way that shows it off as much as possible. Once that's over I then have to figure out a way to do it again but with even more impact than the first time, so for example I did that on this track by adding strings.
I've realized this isn't the best way of working so I'm trying to figure out better ways of doing that. The song i'm working on now for example very subtly evolves. While it may seem repetitive, if you skipped back and forth between the start and end you'd find the song has changed more than you may have thought.
Also, I must admit I've done the “nice track bro” thing quite a bit. I try to justify it by saying that I don't think i'm a good enough producer to be handing out advice but that's just a bullshit excuse, I need to stop being lazy. :/
Anyway, thanks again for your comments! :)
on Broken ROUGH by J1K
Great chilling, fat beat and the leads are melodic. Strings sit well in the background. Definitely needs to go somewhere else as it's really too short a track.
Two years on, are you any nearer finishing it?
on Klokwerk by LivingInSilence
This is one cool track.
Skittery computer game shit to kick things and then a fat, fat, compelling beat.
"building little mechanisms"
I feel I can hear lots of little klokwerky things going on all the time as additional percussion.
1:16 that's a killer little bassline slowly fading in and getting stronger.
1:33 "bitch" vocal? Cool little drop there and then you give that bassline the fat beat it was crying out for. Great, busy fun now that people will enjoy on dancefloors in many places.
Another klokwerky breakdown at 3:04 and then some background strings entering. Then that killer bass returning over the moving machinery.
The rest is similar to what's already come before but it's all good stuff.
No particular suggestions from me as you have your own style, which is evolving and progressing nicely.
Congrats on your distinctive musical/personal character as I do often enjoy your posts and comments on this site. "Just sprinkled some pubes on it" is still the best!
I laughed at you calling it "computer game shit", coz that's pretty much what my last EP was, and what i'm trying to get away from (and it really WAS shit. However, that arp starts to sound like a gazelle in the drop which is a happy accident, lol.
As simple as it is, that bassline took longer to compose than anything else. House tracks are pretty repetitive so I needed to make sure it didn't get boring no matter how many times it was played, I feel I did well.
Also 1:33 she says "Time is a bitch", I knew the 'bitch' part was a lot more audible being higher pitched and on the last beat but maybe I should slightly amplify the first part?
Anyway glad you like the track. I like how in-depth you go on your critiques, your probs my best source of constructive criticism so thanks. Also you missed out on a (wonderful) conversation between "15ludwicke" and I about "snow tubing" lol.
on After Midnight by Pillow
https://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/182742/what-are-your-favourite-tracks-on-looperman
Maybe people will come check this out a bit more because of my choice. Or maybe they won't! It really does deserve more plays and feedback. Will anyone other than me ever get round to commenting on it?
Why not let us know your top Looperman tracks. Post them on that same thread. There’s some serious quality there and I’ve learned about lots of great tracks I’d never heard of before.
Congrats again.
on That Mineral by D3RELICT
This is pretty cool stuff. I still haven't gone and checked out the original loops but I like the flutey sounding one that kicks things off. Actually, I don't like it much out on its own but it sounds good when it has some low end behind it.
0:28 is where things get going for me. Great simple notes and lots of space to let them ring out. This sounds totally different to Spivkurl's track, which I think is excellent.
2:04 new percussive loop is effective as this is a fairly repetitive track so it's interesting listening out for the new elements you bring in.
2:33 is that chugging guitar? Maybe not but the tone reminds me of chugging, palm muted, distorted guitar. And then you change the processing on it so that by 3:05 it definitely sounds like a guitar part.
3:49 some fun filtering.
I prefer stuff that's not quite so repetitive but all your elements are good and you work them skilfully.
Congrats!
Thanks for the review!
Had fun making this one.
0:28: I'm really pleased at the way that synth sounds when it enters.
2:04: That's actually a plate break sound effect that I threw in just for kicks.
2:33: That is indeed chugging guitar in the background. I had a loop lying around that I repitched. What you actually hear in the high part that sounds like a guitar is that piano loop repitched and effected.
3:49: Filtered guitar is actually one of my all time favorite sounds, especially if the cutoff changes.
Thanks again for the review! I appreciate it.
on Breaking Blue L00P CHALLENGE by Spivkurl
This might be my favourite track of yours. Yet again, you've got a bassline that reminds me of Hot Chip's one good song - Over And Over. I'm sure I've noticed that in at least 3 of your tracks. Just as well it's a fine bassline.
Damn cool stuff and I haven't yet bothered to check what the loops are.
Guitar starting at 0:06. Totally different to how I play. Has a cool, lo-fi, home-made (yes, I know it is) sort of delta bluesman quality to it and you're really grooving with it. But in a chilled funky groove track with quite a hip hop vibe so some interesting genre mergers.
3:25 do I hear a bit of slide on that guitar? You know I'm just a little into that...
I'm not really hearing the dub that other people are talking about. Maybe a bit from the bass.
1:07 weirdness of the sort I'd expect from you. Bit too discordant for me but kind of goes with the vibe.
WTF is a Parallel Killer Guitar ie why that name?
I'll be very (pleasantly) surprised if anyone else has managed to make as good a track using those loops.
Could have been longer though it's still a good length.
Might return for more detail but these are some of my initial thoughts.
on Coffee at Angeliques by DrvanLansberg
https://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/182742/what-are-your-favourite-tracks-on-looperman
Maybe people will come check this out a bit more because of his choice. Or maybe they won't.
Bass synth is instantly cool. Makes me think of 80s hip hop.
0:20 shimmering pad is cool and is there Rhodes as well? Fat drum beats that drive this dreamy chill groove along. Just the kind of things I like.
1:02 fun lead and now it's even cooler groove chilling.
1:40 vocals were a surprise and then it's some jazz guitar, saxes and much more.
Good overall length.
Very skilfully done!
I owe you a big apology for not replying any sooner!
Thank you very much for creating an extra platform for members likes. In addition thanks for listening to the track. Glad you like it. As mentioned in my reply to Domenico, the bass sound was quite a job to get right. But I do like the result of other listener's input on it. And your comment on the 80's hip-hop vibe was given before too (although it was never my intention to create something like that at all :-)).
Yes, there is a Rhodes playing chords. I just love the Rhodes and use it many tracks, since it creates the atmosphere I like so much. Just a few simple chords can actually direct the whole track.
Yeah, the vocals... :-). Just thought to do something very little a bit differently.
Anyway, many thanks for your feedback and compliments man! Much appreciated.
Best, Doc.
on Dju Virus Nine Rihter Rmx by Alen9R
https://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/182742/what-are-your-favourite-tracks-on-looperman
Maybe people will come check this out a bit more because of his choice. Or maybe they won't!
This is some powerful stuff, really well produced. Fat subs and killer beats. Gotta have them or it wouldn't be d'n'b, right?
1:01 drumless break is nice, as is the odd fill after that to take us back into the fat breaks.
2:26 rising fill is really well done.
A favourite for me.
Congrats.
on Let Me Put My Penis In Your Vagina by ade1980
https://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/182742/what-are-your-favourite-tracks-on-looperman
Maybe people will come check this out a bit more because of my choice. Or maybe they won't!*
Congrats again.
*Ah, one person already has (PaNeGyRiZe)
on The Love Alchemist - CD Quality by PaNeGyRiZe
https://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/182742/what-are-your-favourite-tracks-on-looperman
Maybe people will come check this out a bit more because of my choice. Or maybe they won't!
Congrats again.
- Evan D.
on Ghosts Of Glencloy by Orlando51
Other thoughts:
Nice initial intro but that low hit on 0:40 sounds like it should be the intro to the whole thing. It's just a neater, more compelling start. Some good clanging stuff then and a big, powerful soundscape.
1:24 cool, glacial pad and vocal tone slowly seeping in.
2:10 shimmering synth thing. Then some beautiful strings. That's the first Irish sort of stuff I hear in this.
3:17 vocal very beautiful.
3:32 finally a beat and it's a good one.
3:52 and beat gets fatter, as I'd hoped for. Thundering bass heavy "world music" that reminds me a little of a guy on here called n0mad23 (no relation to me).
Powerful, evolving soundscape stuff to get lost in. Some elements are a little like Enigma. Remember them?
5:44 a note and tone I really like. Makes a big difference.
Surprised not to hear any Tumbleweed guitar in this.
7:00 hats drop and we hear the tone of those drums better.
I'm quite familiar with this sort of sound and really appreciate it but don't love it. Would probably like it more out at some sort of chillout club or festival rather than for home listening.
Fine work, all the same.
Yeah, this is now one of my longest tracks and I'm glad you found quite some elements of it pleasing and exciting although it's not quite the stuff for your home listening, as you say.
With appreciation_____Orlando
With much appreciation_____Orlando
on Stiff-Arming Stars by Evisma
The Guit-Fiddle Pluckmeister here, typing these words from the g-fiddle neck, with it hooked up to the QWERTY keyboard. I can pluck 100 words per minute, no mistakes. Thumb slaps for capital letters, palm muting for full stops and so on.
Is this song about celebrities (stars) who give fascist salutes? Here's one who has done just that.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1506262/Im-a-fascist-not-a-racist-says-Paolo-di-Canio.html
I think the PRS might be your 'star' here, with all its twinkly lead work.
Busy, crashing drums to kick shit off. Until 0:18 it's twin bass-guit twiddling and then a proper bassline. It's good to lose it and crashing drums at 0:34 to give things more space and hear that taiko loop. A bit tribal there.
1:05 don't much like snare. Cymbals seem a bit thin. Drums need more low end in them, less high.
1:18-1:21 good high rise up the PRS neck. Frenetic stuff.
Why not make the intro before crashing drums come in a bit longer? The whole thing is a bit frenetic so more space, more chilling, would work as a good contrast. Try playing fewer notes in some sections. Will make the busy stuff cooler as a change.
0:57 a good little reverse bit there and a few other places (I think).
Overall: not as nice as some of your nicest tracks bro but still that essential thing musical bros all over the world strive for: a nice track bro.
More along the lines of what the highest order of galactic badass would do while meandering through the cosmos. Just a daydream, that's all. I get a lot of those. Just a picture of something in my head and then I kinda put a scene to it.
Got an odd image in my head once of an ungodly huge horde of filthy people, barely lit by the weak sun, staring into the sun with great fear and strain. They're all telekinetics who are together holding back the sun's death. Thousands of telekinetics using their collective ability to contain a supernova. Neat image in my head,.... got nothing to do with it.
"The whole thing is a bit frenetic so more space, more chilling, would work as a good contrast"
It's hard for me to enjoy the drawn out parts and repetition. It works for your music because your stuff is more of a funky jam,(or several) that you put together and embellish upon. I don't know what mine is, but it seems more regimented and not nearly as "free". I understand what you're saying, but space and chilling isn't what I'm going for. I can see that it's too busy though, so some middle ground will be found.
"1:05 don't much like snare. Cymbals seem a bit thin. Drums need more low end in them, less high."
That drum kit was my major hang-up when it came to uploading this. I went through all my kits and never found one that seemed to fit. I also had to cut some lows because they were conflicting, so there are some mix issues that need to be addressed.
This one, really, is just a test or the PRS. There is way more guitar in here than I would like.
We'll talk again on this, I'm sure. Definitely not done.
on hypnotic feat taratoxic by joroch
But I will say it's some good chilling music. Lots of beauty here. I'm not that keen on the vocals. I can hear what she's trying to do, there just seems to be something a bit off with her pitch. Just not quite right.
Good, low beats. Something like an udo or tabla.
1:44 change is darker and more menacing.
Nice, pretty piano lead work.
Good stuff!
on Hardwood Down by kdlucas
I don't really like those vocals much. Guess they're OK.
I do like how the drum groove fades in. And also the fade in of the chugging guitar.
1:19 higher funk g is cool and now stuff sits nicely. Still with that string note in there. When it drops at1:41 some killer funk bass takes over. I guess that's a loop.
You could definitely improve the drums, which are a little thin. But it's a decent, pretty good fun, chillout funky track. Quite creative and not predictable.
on Loops And Stuff by FreeRadical
Anyway, before then you're teasing us with not dropping that beat until 1:30. Good buildup to it and this is your usual skilfully made boom-tish stuff.
2:00 vocals stand out as very cool. Definite dancefloor banger here.
3:00 and here we go, yo with that pullback to a fat bassline.
Good vocal return on 5:30 and then they fade out nicely before we get to the showing me love section.
7:30 brass is awesome. Is that just a straight bunch of samples or have you arranged them to make up that strong melody line?
8:12 vocals are cool. A chorus of a few people singing something euphoric. Probably not in English. Makes me think of Brazil (country, not Terry Gilliam film).
Good work, as per usual. Nothing I didn't like in here, just a few highlights I thought I'd point out.
Thanks as always for stopping by and bronies are wankers. That's all I have to say on that matter.
Cheers.
FR
on Texas Destroyer by Geophase
Yes, your waveform is so strange I’m kind of intrigued and am thinking about posting a question and link about it on some other audiophile forum. Maybe this one too. It seems almost like some sort of (visual) error. It looks like there’s a strong signal left and then right but the track is fully panned across the spectrum so I’m confused again. It doesn’t sound as it looks.
Wow, that guitar feedback noise is great at 2:45. So very powerful but, as I said, a bit too powerful and piercing.
Is it your guitar playing?
Yes, EQing stuff and turning things down would help, especially as this is a cool genre-merging track that deserves the very best mix. Chart stardom then beckons!
Congrats again and I must check out some of your other stuff. Not that I’m really into chiptune. But maybe you will pleasantly surprise me...
on Texas Destroyer by Geophase
First thing is that that is one crazy waveform! How hell do you get it to look like that? I don't understand but I want one of my tracks to look like that.
Danke's right that there is a bit of a RATM riff there at 0:28. Cool stuff.
Then that vocal is really very commercial but pretty good.
1:06 that vocal "say, say, say" has got to be turned down as it's really quite harsh and piercing.
1:25 that offbeat synth makes me think of reggae.
This is really quite catchy stuff that sounds like it could be a big chart hit. It's a bit too loud and squashed a mix for me but that's all the rage these days so you maybe you like it too.
I might say a bit more for later but think this will do for a first review of a track of yours.
Congrats.
Oh and 2:45 noise is cool but way, way too loud and piercing. What the hell is that sound anyway?
Thanks again for feedback ^_^
on Stay featuring Farisha Haque by RichieWinn
When I said (in a rush) that the drums were a bit weak, I think I just meant that brush snare. You're right that the drums don't interfere with the vocal (which is kind of the main thing) and makes it quite a pop type of production. Like some modern r'n'b. It's the hats, the keyboards and vocals that stand out as the main elements in the track.
1:14-1:17 good drum fill.
1:31 guitar solo is a bit of a surprise. Fits just fine but that guitar sound isn't anywhere else in the track (I think) so it's a surprise but a good one.
Rimshot might work rather than that brush snare but I don't really have a huge problem with it so don't worry about it.
2:32 I noticed the funky bass and then read your track description describing it. It's still very much sitting behind the vocal so quite subtle.
You could give the track a big lift and different identity if you really brought that slap bass out and changed to a different, heavier drum kit. Could be a fun thing to do as a finale but not to worry if you don't. You don't really need it as her vocal does quite enough anyway.
Hope the additional thoughts help in some very minor way. Again, great work that justifies the considerable number of comments received.
Just love the way your very keen ear and eloquent writing makes a critical analysis of the track. Such a great read.
Firstly I'm glad you found the track interesting. That's good. I love putting drum fills in (it's my favourite instrument) so nice of you to pick up on that. Surprising solos is my trademark. The track needed some contrast and I tried all kind of things before settling on an acoustic guitar solo (albeit played on an electric). Pleased you don't have a problem with the rimshot instead of the brush hitting the snare. I guess if you had produced this song the outcome would have been quite different. As it is the aim was not to swamp the vocal or let anything get in it's way. I have actually mixed this without any percussion whatsoever. Sounds great!
My funky bass was a bit of a surprise to me if I'm honest. I only have one slap lick I can do on the bass and it seemed to fit nicely. Bonus! Yes you are absolutely correct I could have given the track a completely different identity with a funkier slap bass and heavier drums. The risk is destroying the integrity of the vocal and as I wasn't in a position to put Farisha back into the vocal booth and ask for a slightly more aggressive approach I had to work with what I had.
Always happy to hear thoughts and comments so thank you very much for taking the time to put together a detailed appraisal. Much appreciated.
Best
Richie
on 04 Do It Or I Never Want To Be by Eighteen
Quite a nice tinkly intro and then some heavier, long bas notes that provide a good ambience. Odd vocals. Maybe vocoded a bit? But they're quite ethereal, which is good.
I guess the metal riffs fit though I'd say the drum sound when they come in needs to be heavier though perhaps you're not trying to turn it into a proper metal track. I'd still prefer a more powerful drum sound.
3:54 change is a bit strange. Not sure it fits the rest. Kind of like a new track now, with the metal really breaking out.
Then, 5:06, you bring the vocals back. Again: a strange combination of guitar and vocals so definitely an unusual track. I didn't love it but do like it and also respect the creativity and leftfield approach to doing things.
about the vocals sounding like they are being vocoded, is because I am using vocaloid, the voices you are hearing are actually not human but robots, so you are right about the vocoding bit.
the drums indeed are very weak, but also this track is very old, iI made it last year, (I started this album in 2013) and now I have a bit more experience with mixing and making kicks more powerfull and more clear.
at the last weird part, it's mostly because I ignore regular music patterns, I usually like to blend soft floating vocals with for example rough or hard music, and sometimes I don't, it's what I feel like making when I am working on it mostly.
Cheers
~Eighteen
on Sunday by aelmen
Yes, it is Danish. I used to live in Denmark a long time ago so learned to read Danish OK though not really speak it very well. I can still remember a few phrases though not much Swedish. I just went there for one day in 1990 (Malmo).
I would not have guessed that the vocal sound is "demolished guitar". That's a strange sound.
Cool to hear you're using Superior Drummer now as it's great fun and very powerful. You can hear it all over many of my tracks though a lot of what you hear is EZ Drummer Expansion Packs, which it also plays. I have most of them and am about to buy the new Reggae kit, which looks excellent. They're not very expensive and if you keep collecting them, you end up with so many different types of drumming (in the MIDI files each different pack gives you) as well as the quite different kits. My favourites are probably Metalheads, Claustrophobic, Americana and the Sticks Superior Pack.
There are a good few Superior/EZ users on the site (Valvedriver, Promenade2239, RichieWinn, srbrown7, thehumps etc) so let's hear what you can do with it. It's not such an obvious thing for making dance music so you'll probably now add more of an acoustic drum sound to your style.
Good luck!
The first thing I faced was the lack of non supporting VST interface in Reason. Connecting the solo player with reason was no problem but the problem is that the solo player is taking ownership of the sound card. No problem, so I bought a new sound card but then again i have to map the outbound signal to the other sound card and then sample the signal. That was not the way I wanted to work!
But I'll give it a try!
Thanks for your comment :)
/Anders
on Stay featuring Farisha Haque by RichieWinn
I'm a bit confused as this is a fine track but I'm not really hearing obvious autotune. It's something I generally dislike if I can clearly hear it.
Farisha is a fine vocalist (I checked out that Youtube video you linked) and can sing jazz too. I heard much more obvious autotune on another recent track of hers. But, still, I'm struggling to hear the obvious bits here. They're just great vocals!
Anyway, your accompaniment is good to though I'll return and offer some more detail. My only criticism for now is a slightly weak drum kit, though it's no big deal. I'm also a Superior user and use the one brush kit that I have (from the Roots and Sticks packs) quite a bit. I love brush drums.
More later but these are my initial thoughts.
A "weak drumkit" you think? Hmmmm! Not sure I agree but my goal was not to swamp the vocal. I wanted something playing sixteens on the hi hat but using sticks it just didn't sound right. I don't have the Roots and Sticks pack so thanks for the pointer - I will check it out.
Glad you think it's a fine track which is a great compliment. Thank you.
Richie