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Description : [Draft3 - semifinal] Though seemingly a cliche, everything in the universe is recycled. This is one of the implications of the first law of thermodynamics. This also corresponds to Shiva and his Cosmic Dream. Steady beat provided by planetjazzbass loops (2), and one of the 2 dubbified tabla tracks is me. Midi sequences recycled include a free SoundFont of a pipe organ, the freeware VSTi Alieno, and DKS Asian DreamZ luan manipulated into something else.

Seems to be some kind of recycled cosmic dance.

Draft2 - rekeyed the synth and organ samples.
Draft2a - attempted adding a "things fall apart" section, where the ensuing chaos returns to a sort of order via rhythm. Too much? I'm too close to it to tell.
Draft2b - got great advice from alividlife and added two tracks of time stretched Alieno created loops. Went after the "things fall apart" and the end sequence. Feeling like it's getting close.
Draft3 - reworked the 3:00 break and the end. Teased out further sonic interpretations of sounds of digestion and disassembly. Big thanks to alividlife for such brilliant suggestions.

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  1. SERGEJ77
    SERGEJ77 on Wed 18th May 2011 - 8 years ago


  2. JohnBoutilier
    JohnBoutilier on Mon 9th May 2011 - 8 years ago

    One of the things I really enjoy about being here on looperman is when I come across a track that I would never ever have conceived of doing and enjoying the hell out of the track. Can't get much fresher than this piece, my friend, and I enjoyed it like a refreshing summer breeze.

    Keep them coming, my friend


    Reply by n0mad23

    You just never know where inspiration will come from, you know? Wandering between conversations at a dinner party is what happened here - first a conversation about rondos (row-row-row your boat) and then another about super-black holes. Realized the connect the dots involved "recycling" and Shiva's Dream. I find that with this kind of "solo" work, once I've nailed the concept, the sonic stuff just kind of reveals itself. Glad you dig this one! Thank you kindly for the listen and review.

  3. midisparks
    midisparks on Sun 3rd Apr 2011 - 8 years ago

    the litmus test for dance/trance for me is can i enjoy it and also do budget analysis at work at the same time. this passes the test for me. i appreciate the literary reference point, shiva and his cosmic dream. you should market mixes of your dance/trance stuff to internet radio stations.

    critique - just keep finding ways to keep it cranking for longer periods of time. i know 5 minutes of composition is a lot! but this genre i think needs to go on and on an on. peace

    Reply by n0mad23

    Most of these tracks are streamed somewhat regularly on Mixposure radio these days, and it's a good way to get exposure, to be sure.

    Funny you'd mention the length - actually I have a really hard time getting any of my stuff down under 10 minutes, and usually what I post here are the tracks that I've managed to get down to a "reasonable" time length. Thanks for the comment on this, as it's making me think that I should to EP mixes for these kinds of songs. Thanks for taking the time to review!

  4. jfw
    jfw on Tue 29th Mar 2011 - 8 years ago

    This is a great listen. I'm always drawn by percussion and this offers subtle stereo intricacies - paradiddles "all-around" - quite literally.


    Reply by n0mad23

    Nice one, Jamie - you've taught the wordsmith a new word. The paradiddles you're hearing are actually my translating the hand-drum approach to snares - body memory driven bass and rim slaps. Funny with the real musicians I've performed with, it's a word that has never come up. Really glad you enjoyed listening to this one. Cheers!

  5. Manfrix89
    Manfrix89 on Sun 6th Feb 2011 - 8 years ago

    Though seemingly a cliche, everything in the universe is recycled.

    live seen through a looperman! :)

    Reply by n0mad23

    lol - philosophy and music you can dance to! I actually made a series of MIDI phrases and then rearranged them in different orders and plugged them into different instruments trying to recycle everything here. A lot of fun to make, too! Thanks for the listen and review. Thanks for the fave - that's about the biggest compliment possible!

  6. C69
    C69 on Tue 19th Oct 2010 - 9 years ago

    @n0mad23, I've not been on Looperman for a while so I decided to hear what the master has been upto. I am not disappointed with this track ;) infact I regard it as one of your best. Jungulation still remains the n0mad23 track par excellence but this comes close, ....very close. C69

    Reply by n0mad23

    I took 3 months off myself, so I'm really late in replying to your review! This track was a lot of fun to make, probably more so than most in the current project. I love how a series of conversations at a party inspired the concept, and how seamlessly it evolved from there. I'm gearing up to do some more sampling of my exotic instruments, and hopefully more along these lines will emerge! Thanks for the kind words.

  7. theassociation
    theassociation on Tue 5th Oct 2010 - 9 years ago

    Hey Sean
    real cool groove mate, like the fat bassy sound man, nice work, hope all is well, havent been able to check much out for a while!!!

    Reply by n0mad23

    Same here - life's gotten rather busy and staying up on the loop has been next to impossible. Glad you like this one. Cheers.

  8. Mrbillionx
    Mrbillionx on Sat 18th Sep 2010 - 9 years ago

    cool track LOL

    yeah this is good stuff. How long before we get a complete album of this?

    Reply by n0mad23

    Thanks. The album is all pretty conceptually based, so it's taking longer than I thought it would. Hopefully by the beginning of 2011 I'll have enough tracks to be done with this one.

  9. NeonStrawberry
    NeonStrawberry on Thu 16th Sep 2010 - 9 years ago

    sweet and mellow, awesome lead, I immediately got things to discuss, read my mail man, its about texture, clarity and interconnections in ambiance. really like the atmos here.

    Reply by n0mad23

    Sorry it's taken so long for me to reply - time seems to be speeding up and I'm off writing words instead of making music again! Will be emailing you very soon! Thanks for listening and giving a review.

  10. Planetjazzbass
    Planetjazzbass on Wed 8th Sep 2010 - 9 years ago

    I'm so tempted to just say hot track! lol....Just kidding,but it is interesting to note that your tracks engender more than a passing reply,and there's a reason for this....Ah yes,I believe in Cosmic recycling,not the obvious reincarnation so much as apportioning due care and diligence to the things we interact with(on the physical plain anyway!)....which brings me to the essence of what I perceive music to be about....being a percussionist amongst other things makes you a very tactile person with a clear understanding of the physical nature of music..it occurs to me that tracks like this effect people on some inner level,possibly within the subconscious I'm not sure....what I do know is that there is a Cosmic reality in music, there's a process at work and funnily enough in this dimension we call home,the fact that ever since the invention of radio the transmitted material of humanity is the only real Cosmic reality that exists physically that we know of..radiating away through eternity in an every expanding weakening sphere of what?..Hell I was only going to review this track not try and square up the mysteries of the Cosmic All!lol..see it's those tribal drums... they make you go crazy! hehe..it is a hot track by the way...cheers Dave ;)

    Reply by n0mad23

    I'm with you Dave - I'd like to believe in reincarnation for the simple fact of the first law of thermodynamics, but suspect things are simultaneously more complicated and simple than that. I like the metaphor of Shiva in the Cosmic recycling sense and it seemed rather incandescent to use or reflect that Cosmic reality in music to explore and interpret this theme. The most attractive axiom of Buddhism to me is that the only permanence is change. But you know this stuff - it's why we have to do art, right? Ashes to ashes, and pass the hubbly bubbly please. I'm really not surprised that it's the cool cats that get it. Cheers my friend.

  11. Salook
    Salook on Mon 30th Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    totally pulled in...so rich its swimming in gold this piece..i am just in the right frame of mind now for listening to this...it is chaos.. but you have it controlled here..they say that 'from chaos comes order'...never understood that until now..great!

    Reply by n0mad23

    What a trip the evolution in this was. Chaos-Order:Order-Chaos expressed as another form of wax and wane. Think maybe Shiva was poking this one in particular directions? Got to be careful when invoking archetypes or deities in Art as they just might start influencing things. So glad you dig this one my friend!

  12. Mosaic
    Mosaic on Sat 28th Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    Hello My friend

    Have to say this is the most enjoyable chillout type of track heard tonight doing reviews, well for all day as a matter of fact, I have some samples along the same line you have used here, you may have inpsired me to have a go at doing a track with them, like with my other track Lazy Dazze, thought would do that track after listening to one of your brilliant piece's looks like I will be doing another after listening to this brilliant piece, love the arrangement and the clarity of this piece, mate you have to be one of the most talent people here on the loop, with the tunes you do, they do sound like lots of work has gone in to get the brilliance that you have, like in this track, always a pleasure listening to your works, always something special...MASSIVE Thank you for sharing this joy...Fav'd...Estefano....My friend I have a sweet house piece up, hope you get chance to check it out and enjoy, would be interested in your thoughts...Cheers my friend....

    Reply by n0mad23

    You know, the few times I've encountered tracks here that "were inspired" by me, I've been totally blown away. What an honor that is! I love that about this site - I hear something that inspires me, and make a track, someone hears that and makes one. We're all rolling around together making interesting stuff! Maybe it's time to think about exchanging stems? Thanks kindly my friend.

  13. theHumps
    theHumps on Tue 24th Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    [Draft 2a reviews]

    The strong rhythm gives it a very primative, clan or tribal feel to this. Very organic, new age, world music and even a little mystical feeling to a point as I listen. Loved the wood percussion and tabla, gave a middle eastern touch to it.

    Always a pleasure to hear a new tune from you, this one is no exception. I usually close my eyes and drift away to some far off land as I listen. yup.


    Reply by n0mad23

    I'm thinking the rhythm thing I've got down so it's time to explore the melody side of things. It's funny, because even in the percussion I hear melodies, but it's been needing something more. I'm glad this stuff can take you on an inward journey. With the current economy, it seems the cheapest way to travel.

  14. AnomalyJ
    AnomalyJ on Tue 24th Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    Sort of tribalisic sounding, love the bassline, with the slight wobble, great panning of sounds, your music always makes my little brain stop and thing, tranferring my thoughts to another dimenion in sound and space. It like waithing gears and motors spinning. good job.

    Reply by n0mad23

    But is it music? Sometimes I wonder... Thanks for the listen and fabulous reveiw AJ!

  15. alividlife
    alividlife on Sun 22nd Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    [Draft2 Review]

    It's been awesome to follow this piece from it's beginnings all the way to draft two.
    Btw, when I replied on gmail, I was A/Bing the draft one to draft two heheh..
    So I accidentally replied to the first one! hehe

    anyhow, I mean as a piece it's amazing. I am just the type of creative individual that everything must be completely torn apart down to the sub-atomic level and rebuilt lol.

    I do really like how you balance this line of Trancish Ethno vibe with the dub aesthetics.
    OH, and I guess I really didn't listen close enough but I do hear a bit of that Kinda grain delay action I was talking about, but I did feel the need for a crescendo?
    You rock!
    Shiva the God of destruction and the recycled elements indeed.
    Still felt like I wanted more of a crescendo near the end rhythmically (even more so than the outro), but that in no way is a complaint or criticism.

    In reply to draft2b
    I love it man.. Man there's that brewing. Things broken down to the sub-atomic level and brought together.

    LOVE IT.

    Man.. I think I do agree with you about the trappings of the all-mighty "Edit" and "Arrangement".
    I find it funny.. because I am actually missing a reel to reel occasionally, because it was either hit or miss.
    So in you confiding me about the way you process this ... It makes me think about the good old days.

    Man you can hear Shiva actually crying.
    Thats effing nuts.

    Reply by n0mad23

    Huge thanks to you for all the fantastic critiques and advice on this one! In "rehearsing" it I think I got too close to the trees again to see the forest so you're advice really kicked me down the path I needed to follow. I hear a thimble full of Shiva's tears are a powerful psychedelic so feel free to sample a sip - lol. I'm thinking it's time to seriously (sincerely?) discuss a collab again. Thanks my little brother.

  16. Spivkurl
    Spivkurl on Sun 22nd Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    You have lived up to my expectations with this track! Everything you do has such a spiritual feeling to it, just as this does. Very danceable stuff too! I really like that sitar sound, I can't believe it's a VST! Really cool drumming on this one! This sure kept my attention! Thanks for sharing!

    Reply by n0mad23

    I hadn't really considered my stuff sounding "spiritual" but you're not the first to say this. I've got a musical friend that I started jamming with about 17 years ago who recently became a Sufi and he told me that the form of mysticism actually feels just like my music. I love how this one compels movement! Thanks for the review my friend.

  17. ChaseManhattan
    ChaseManhattan on Sun 22nd Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    sounds great nomad. awesome mind bending work! my words cannot describe what this track says.

    a sound can resonate throughout a lifetime.

    wow this is awesome. nice work bro

    Reply by n0mad23

    One thing I'm really digging about what I'm doing now feels a lot like academia - I'm doing so many connect the dot sequences in terms of applying understanding to creative interpretations. And in turn I learn something totally new every time I sit down with the DAW! Thanks man!

  18. BluntsAndBeats
    BluntsAndBeats on Sun 22nd Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    i agree with chrisg definitely got a middle eastern feel to it. i love the synth that comes in around 0:45 or so. cool track

    Reply by n0mad23

    Sorry for taking so long to thank you for the review. I got totally sucked into subsequent revisions (3 since you heard it!) This one's been a blast for me to make, and I'm glad you were digging it in the early stages. Honestly it was a real motivation to keep going! Thanks.

  19. ChrissG
    ChrissG on Sun 22nd Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    Can I hear a taste of India in here..? well it works very well with the interesting beat you have lined up. Lovely use of percuaaion as expected.. I love the use of thermodynamics in your description very apt.. anyway back to the tune.. Its quite melodic again which I love and very eay on the ear.. Well worth the listen. Great job n0m

    Reply by n0mad23

    You know I honestly didn't hear the "sitar" sound in this until Stephen pointed it out! That's the free VSTi Alieno, and I think the 2 manipulated tabla tracks kind of emphasize it. It does seem I'm really drawn to melodies these days, so maybe I'm doing the cycle of Death and Rebirth through it all as well. Glad you dig this one! Thanks much for taking the time to listen and review.

  20. Salook
    Salook on Sat 21st Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    [Response to Draft 1]

    Sonic bliss, another track formed around the cosmos, recycled sounds representing the endless cycles of death and rebirth...man the sounds playing here are mutated and falling into the category of hybridisation.....the more i listen to your music the more i understand the concept of your art..great first draft.the full works extended version i wait in anticipation for...nice.

    Reply by n0mad23

    lol - I guess it does seem I'm drawing from meme theory for sonic work, too. Added a couple of minutes to Draft 2, and now I actually think I know what needs to be done for the final version.

  21. StephenPotter
    StephenPotter on Wed 18th Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    I loved the middle eastern intro with the Dhol drums and sitar sound, it might be something else, but It sounded like it to me. I get excited when I see a new song from you and this is the reason why, the track flows together really well, and is just generally relaxing. I agree with The_Acidizer, I listened all the way to the end, and I like the last line of the description that it is a recycled cosmic dance, it seems to fit your track pretty well.

    As always, great job Nomad!

    Ste :)

    Reply by n0mad23

    The first tablas you hear are from Deepest India sample pack, and the second to enter are mine (pics of the set in my pics). I think they still need to be arranged better. The sitar sound is actually the free VSTi Alieno that I've manipulated with other VSTs. I was actually shooting for a Far East sound at least in the beginning due to the nod to Shiva as a reflection of recycling principals. Of course, Shiva is also the Lord of the Dance, so I was really happy to see the girls in my house bopping to it while I was putting it together. I think it's off to a good start, and I'm probably the most curious of all to see where it ends up! Thanks for the encouraging review Ste!

  22. The_Acidizer
    The_Acidizer on Wed 18th Aug 2010 - 9 years ago

    interesting sound you got here. really cool. this could go in many different directions, and i like what you did with it. it was an adventure through the whole song. not something most people will listen to on an everyday basis, but it is a song that would people would be like, thats kinda cool sounding. had me listening intently all the way to the end. great work!

    Reply by n0mad23

    Still in a drafty mode for me, so I totally agree with your comments about the directions it could still go. I had to do a draft recording so I could "examine" it, and thought I'd post it as well. I'm thinking it'll do probably 2 more revisions before it can be put away. Thanks for the encouraging review!

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