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26th Nov 2023 08:43 - 6 months ago
Description : Updated 2/22/2024 by changing my bass flavor. So I started going through my VST instruments EZ Bass, Trilian bass, Rhodes V8. Kontakt 7 for the sax and trumpet, and 2 instances of Electric Mint for the guitars. I cannot be left alone, or I'll do things like this. Check it out and let me know what you think. Peace.

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If you have time take a listen and give kingmt77 some feedback.

VintageNights
VintageNights 25th Feb 2024 12:17 - 3 months ago
I wasn't able to thoroughly play an instrument because of restrictions of my mind but when I am working with loops I still want to create a flow. That's is still my biggest challenge. The way you have done it comes so close to what I want to achieve. OK, NI and other production tools helps us alot with that one but those are just the ingredients. As a cook we need to put is all together in a nice tasting menu. You definitely own at least one star :-)
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 25th Feb 2024 - 3 months ago
Greetings VintageNights. Thank you for stopping and sharing your reactions. I started making music using loops exclusively. That helped me to develop my composing and arranging chops. For me personally, I wanted more creative control over my tracks and break away from that "on the grid" sound. Which has a powerful place in music today. But my personal musical aspirations were different. So the production tools you mentioned helped me to achieve a next level sound. Touching on your comment about not being able to thoroughly play an instrument is just practice. My breakthrough came when I finally realized that the best sound is always going to be organic. There's nothing like the living musical expressions we create through our fingertips. So the journey continues. Peace.

Mark
CelestiaAngel777
CelestiaAngel777 24th Feb 2024 07:30 - 3 months ago
lol..oh shoot! Mark, I'm only seeing your response now that's crazy, mind you there was a period when I was off this site & don't always check back, gotta know when to back away! from here sometimes haha...Thanks for playing along with my funnies gotta have a laugh as well as music but yes indeed I loveee that SAX. Nice! hearing this again. Take Care Jazzman.
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 24th Feb 2024 - 3 months ago
Angelus! No problem at all. It's good you stopped through. Agreed, laughter intertwined with music is a great combo!:) Thanks as always for the compliments on what you heard. Be safe and stay sweet my friend.

Mark
Danke
Danke 23rd Feb 2024 23:08 - 3 months ago
Mark!

I'm very jealous of the saxophone sound ... I couldn't find such a live sounded card ... what did you use or was it played live???
excellent, professional play and sound ...
hats off,
Danke
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 24th Feb 2024 - 3 months ago
Atilla! Greetings. I'm glad you got the chance to check this one out. Everything you heard I played on midi keys. That sax is the result of hunting and going over VST after VST. To no avail. I got so desperate I Googled "what is the best sounding brass and wind VST". I hit a dead end there too! So by accident looking for something else.......... Then finally XXL Hip Hop Horns enters into my life. Don't let the name throw you. Hip Hop is a small fraction of this library. There are a lot of brass and woodwind instruments with lots of tweaks, so you can get the sound you want. Whatever you do, check this Native Instruments Kontakt library out! I personally know the frustration of looking for the right sound. Keep me posted if you check it out and got questions. Lastly, the compliments and fave are greatly appreciated. Peace.

Mark
EricMilligan
EricMilligan 22nd Feb 2024 01:31 - 3 months ago
I am pretty much blown away by this track, Mark. Amazingly good work. The drums were outstanding. Actually, that's a serious understatement. I was a drummer once upon a time, but never at that level. That's a great example of percussion not just keeping time, but intricately weaving part of the tapestry. Don't hear that at all I think in EDM, and pretty rarely in pop, at least in my opinion. Let me also comment on the sax part. Doing a convincing sax using any VST is, in my experience, really really difficult. I find it impossible and have given up trying. You nailed it! And finally, the bass part was on the same level as the drums. You clearly have spent some time mastering the more advanced features of Trillian, creating a pass part that, frankly, didn't sound at all like it was coming from a virtual instrument. It sounded like it was played live by a skilled bass player.

Just totally impressive.

Eric
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 22nd Feb 2024 - 3 months ago
Greetings Eric. Thanks for taking out time and giving your impressions on what you heard. From the way you reacted to the drums, drumming is still in your bones! It never goes away! Thanks also for the sax mention. I've waited a long time to up my sax game. I appreciate that mention as well. Trilian just about a month ago, got a minor update, and that for some reason made it even more ferocious. The VST instruments all have great starting points, but the real fun comes in with side chain compression, reverbs, delays, saturation, and automation. It takes a combination of different effects for fine-tuning. Anyway, we should pick up this conversation at a later date. It's really been great having you stop by.
Zootman
Zootman 21st Feb 2024 16:11 - 3 months ago
I see I've already commented but too bad! This is stellar. Production is amazing. Delays on the sax here and there sound cosmic. Basically just wanted to say this was thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated.
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 21st Feb 2024 - 3 months ago
Chris! The King's jazz café has a special VIP section that's front and center called Zootman's Zone. Come as often as necessary, LOL! It's good you stopped back through and found the extra polish "Amazing". The comments and compliments are received humbly and graciously. The fave is huge. Be safe. Peace.

Mark
UncleErin
UncleErin 20th Feb 2024 18:20 - 3 months ago
Hey Mark. Just finished a few listens of this. Pure jazz flavour. The track has a "Return to Forever" vibe for me. I'm always amazed at the clarity and purity of your sounds. The mixes are awesome. I call it front to back but I think it is the knowledge of how to place reverb and eq correctly. Awesome work. Love being a fan! UE
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 20th Feb 2024 - 3 months ago
UE! Your stop is big business. The comments coming from a jazz purist such as yourself speaks volumes. On the clarity and purity, my M.O. is to show as much love and respect to the ears, minds, hearts, and spirit of the listeners. And I’ve got a ways to go. The RTF mention is over the top! Reverb, eq, etc., is where the real work comes in. We gotta have extra dimensionality for this genre of jazz. I appreciate your time for the listen. Peace.

Mark
Yahwelle
Yahwelle 20th Jan 2024 13:32 - 4 months ago
Salut Mark; tu as composé une belle pièce de Jazz, le style est très moderne, la batterie charpente puissamment le morceau et les cuivres sont magnifiques, merci pour le partage.
Yahwelle.

Hi Mark; you've composed a beautiful piece of Jazz, the style is very modern, the drums frame the piece powerfully and the horns are magnificent, thanks for sharing.
Yahwelle.
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 21st Jan 2024 - 4 months ago
Yahwelle, your stop and critique is a great encouragement. It’s good to know this listen was a good one. Be safe.

Mark
dimestop
dimestop 14th Dec 2023 20:07 - 6 months ago
yes Mark, im loving this finished product, its polished to f#ck love the fx chain you added, tad of reverb, its sounds deeper and rich their is a depth to the track, you always bring groove and swing anyway but this as got a fresh bounce great for on a top mix time to fav
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 14th Dec 2023 - 6 months ago
Paul! I've said before......"you call it like you hear it". Thanks for the high score you placed on what you heard. All the improvements you mentioned are full on target. Also, gratitude for my BAFTA (fave) LOL:) Peace.

Mark
2Sisters
2Sisters 3rd Dec 2023 17:03 - 6 months ago
Hello Marc, thanks for the talents! *smile.
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 4th Dec 2023 - 6 months ago
That’s credit where credit is due! You make it easy. Have a safe and wonderful week:)!

Mark
Zootman
Zootman 3rd Dec 2023 09:16 - 6 months ago
Great track. Like the others I'm amazed at the quality and reality of the vsts. Sax especially and the delay on that is awesome. Also enjoyed the production geek breakdown, I like to hear what people have done in that aspect. It helps with learning for myself.
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 3rd Dec 2023 - 6 months ago
Greetings Chris! I’m glad you stopped by. It’s good you enjoyed what you heard. Sometimes no music production for me. Only research and development. It’s vicious in the virtual instrument game. Slick presentation alone and advertising won’t nail it. It took maybe 3 years of trying to find the right brass vst. One issue is it seems the majority of musicians today ears are acclimated towards the synth brass sound. Which fits quite nicely with some styles. And some are amazing. But I was raised on real brass and my goal was to get as close as possible in my productions. The response for the sound of the sax has been great. I’ll suggest again, Kontakt 7 has the best brass library ever with East West Studio Brass coming in a close second. Thanks for the compliments and interesting conversation. Peace.

Mark
CelestiaAngel777
CelestiaAngel777 3rd Dec 2023 07:42 - 6 months ago
Hola! Mark,

I see you're still at IT! lol...ok, this is SMOOOTHHH! & cool as cucumber. The instruments make very smooth transitions throughout the track, at around 0:31 my little ears perked up you already know I'm a sax-girl, love my sax. This whole ensemble was a FAB! listen indeed. One of your best! yet I believe. Keep it up!

Angelus
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 3rd Dec 2023 - 6 months ago
Angelus:)! So I went ahead and signed you up with me @ S.A.! If you're wondering what that is.............. IT's SAXAHOLIC'S ANONYMOUS, LOL! I must have my daily dose of saxophone, or I'm very difficult to deal with, LOL:). Now, for your time, listen, feedback, fave, and presence.......GRATITUDE! This one for me felt kinda right from the start. Thanks also for setting this one at the top. Stay safe and sweet as always, my good friend.

Mark
2Sisters
2Sisters 2nd Dec 2023 22:11 - 6 months ago
Hello Mark, this is the third time I've been here with you and I don't really have anything to add to what I wrote before. Unfortunately, since you can't compare two versions directly, I can only guess *smile.
First of all, I have the feeling that the sax has more echo and the guitars sound a bit more dominant in the first section. I also think that you have condensed the soundstage a little more. So designed to be more compact without compromising the stereo effect. Do you actually work with sidechain compression?
I'm excited to see what happens next with the song. I think it's so good already that I don't think it can get much better.
Kind regards and have a nice weekend Manuela
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 2nd Dec 2023 - 6 months ago
Manuela! Haha! So you didn't need the original version to make a comparison. You're spot on. I added an effect called Transit for the sax in which the delay spreads from the center of the sax outward. Guitar's got a pinch of heft. On the master sonible's Smart limit with the threshold lowered a touch from the first version. For side chaining, two instances of my Rhodes. Left and right. Left side chained, triggered by my drum buss. Right side chained triggered from my bass. Oh boy I'm sounding geeked out LOL!:) Thank you for rechecking my track and your compliments. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. P.S. When you bring the band to the U.S. you guys are staying with me. I listened to the latest track.........TALENT GALORE. Stay Safe.

Mark
klmr29
klmr29 29th Nov 2023 19:46 - 6 months ago
hi mark !! nice track
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 30th Nov 2023 - 6 months ago
klmr29 Hello! I'm glad you got the chance to check this one out. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. Peace.

Mark
BaoBou
BaoBou 29th Nov 2023 19:27 - 6 months ago
That's amazing Mark. I know you like to tinker and keep improving your tracks, but this one is done, I think. Awesome!
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 30th Nov 2023 - 6 months ago
BaoBou! Greetings. Ok, so I fully respect the musical connection we have, old chap! You are unequivocally correct in your astute assessment in how I do what I do the way I do, In other words "Elementary My Dear Watson"! LOL! This 1 is 1 and done.......... I can't do anything else. On to the next adventure. Oh.......... Thanks for the complement. Peace

Mark
StarTravels
StarTravels 29th Nov 2023 16:27 - 6 months ago
Hi Mark, nice to hear from you again. What an amazing beat you've put on here... you're simply masterful at it. I love these bass/guitar unisons, like everything else. I've listened several times to follow one of the instruments in particular, and every time it's just crazy how you bring it all together. It usually frustrates me when I try to play any wind instruments with VST, because so far I've found that they always sound artificial, apart from maybe some flutes. But here with you it's completely different... especially with the saxophone I was really amazed at how natural you sounded. All in all, another first-class listening experience!

Peace
Micky
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 30th Nov 2023 - 6 months ago
Micky! It's always a pleasure for you to stop in and share your highly respected viewpoint. Thanks for the compliments on what you heard. The groove here started as inspiration that quickly turned into a fiery motivation. Everything just flowed easily. I suggest for some decent less midi sounding but pretty much mix ready brass Try Kontakt 7. You won't be disappointed. The brass library is huge, and you can go from cinematic to orchestral or full-blown stratospheric Jazz. The sax is my personal favorite. As I've mentioned before, your work is awesome! Thanks for the inspiration, Mickey. Peace.

Mark
xstokes
xstokes 28th Nov 2023 15:08 - 6 months ago
i love the roving vibes you create, man. it’s the out-front drumming i key onto here til the resolution just f*ken nails it. i’m glad you were left alone long enough to dish this out, Mark!
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 29th Nov 2023 - 6 months ago
Michael! I really appreciate the stop, listen, compliments, and fave. It's good this resonated just right for you. Peace.

Mark
Dennel
Dennel 27th Nov 2023 19:04 - 6 months ago
Hey Mark another winner here, it's always great to actually hear your creative process at work. So you're a drummer eh? That would explain how and why your drum parts are constructed with such fire. Also much like you I'm a Rhodes and trumpet fan also (I play keyboards not trumpet), I've mentioned before that I really like the fact that your compositions sound like actual live jazz performances and this track is certainly a continuation of that excellence. Great job as always my friend and naturally a fav.

All the best,

Dennel
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 28th Nov 2023 - 6 months ago
"D"! Thanks much for the stop by, listen, comments, kind compliments, and fave. So you're a Rhodes and trumpet fan? We speak the same language my friend. It's huge, you find the ambiance here to be lively. Again, my motto is "Keep 'Em Fresh and Always LIVELY"! Peace.

Mark
2Sisters
2Sisters 27th Nov 2023 09:46 - 6 months ago
That's true with the live aspect. I don't know anyone who designs soft synths so variably that they can hardly be distinguished from instruments played live. All attention!
Have a nice week to you too.
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 27th Nov 2023 - 6 months ago
Manuela! I hear you. The quality of virtual instruments has improved dramatically over the last year. I’m a drummer point blank period. But I’ve gotta get the music done………… self imposed of course. I can’t play sax or trumpet or bass on the level my music brain works. But now I can lay the ideas down and I’ll peck until those notes are just right. And as you can hear…….. the sound is amazing. To the degree where you can play with expressions and even automate different playing techniques. To be continued. Peace.

Mark
crucethus
crucethus 27th Nov 2023 01:19 - 6 months ago
Keep doing "things like this" Mate. Are you using specific soft synths? or do you sequence some parts. {Asking for a friend}
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 27th Nov 2023 - 6 months ago
Steven! Greetings. Thanks for stopping by. So yep all soft synths from start to finish one track at a time. This track came about by accident. I make myself practice my keys every day. As I was messing around with Toontrack's EZ Bass, with midi keys. This very simple bass line had something pocket wise. So I laid down the drums and played the bass on top. I was loving it. Then the Rhodes V8 VST played on midi keys, which is self-explanatory. I have about a million different flavors of A Rhodes, and this one is a clear winner. Next came the sax and trumpet and Guitars (Strats) played on midi keys through Kontakt 7. Peace.

Mark
dimestop
dimestop 26th Nov 2023 21:37 - 6 months ago
nice work Mark nice drum intro and that guitar joining, delicate keys fly sax, nice percs and use of the hats, great basslines. nice jazzy work mate, its been awhile since we heard you :))
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 27th Nov 2023 - 6 months ago
Paul. Thanks for stopping through. I can always count on you to "Call it like you hear it". You got the total picture in detail. This one in particular was a pop-up by messing around with some VST's. It's good to be back, for sure. Peace.

Mark
2Sisters
2Sisters 26th Nov 2023 11:09 - 6 months ago
Well, that's what I call good work! The intro and the slow build-up over bass and keys followed by a fantastic sax solo convinced me! That would be another song that I could easily listen to played live on a stage. Again and again there are these surprising twists and turns in the representation of the individual instruments. Good job!

Kind regards and have a nice Sunday

Manuela
kingmt77
kingmt77 replied 27th Nov 2023 - 6 months ago
Manuela. Thank you for the time you've taken out for this stop, listen, and critique. I greatly appreciate everything you mentioned, especially the "live" aspect that seems to be an unofficial trademark of mine. Have a great week, Manuela. Peace.

Mark

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