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Description : About five years ago I made a dubstep track called Labyrinth Of The Absurd. This is part 2. Check out part 1 if you haven't yet. This is a Dark D-n-B. Or whatever.
I used Serum, Massive, Sylenth1. I used no presets, and no prefabricated loops. This is all original content from scratch. The only exception being the vocal samples.

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  1. JoeyBonezSD1
    JoeyBonezSD1 on Thu 26th Nov 2020 - 10 months ago

    this is insane!!!awesome work!

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it!

    Take care.
    V.

  2. CaraDeSol
    CaraDeSol on Tue 24th Nov 2020 - 10 months ago

    Greetings V, hope all is good and well. First off, let me just say how much I love this mix quality, crisp, clear,raw, and agressive. Such blissful chaos and artistry at its best. You knocked this baby out of the park brother, a job well done. BTW,I've been looking at buying Sylenth1 for quite awhile, and I was hoping you can share your feedback. I would really appreciate it. Faved.

    Until Then

    SunFace

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Greetings in return! Thank you for the kind words. I greatly appreciate it!

    As far as Sylenth goes...pull the trigger and get it. It's a highly versatile synth and totally user friendly. The routing path is an easy one to follow and all the extra this-n-that's make for some sweet one of a kind patches. I bought it years ago and have used it in almost every track since then. If you check out my tune "I Hope You're Alright" you can get a good idea of what it can do. Other than the piano and drums, that's all I used. All the patches were custom built from the initial saw.
    Honestly, I wish Lennar Digital has seen all the recommendations I've made. They'd have to sponsor me with free shit by now!

    Thanks again.
    Take care.
    V.

  3. Stereonomicon
    Stereonomicon on Wed 11th Nov 2020 - 11 months ago

    This is a very atmospheric piece, the first part sounds like an ancient pagan ceremonial and then evolves into a more rapid but equally intense form. The construction of the sounds you used is very accurate and I think all this took time and effort. As always you produce songs of great impact and depth.
    A cordial greeting
    Marco

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Marco, sorry for the late reply. We are in the middle of a big move, and have had no time for anything.

    That being said, Thank you for your kind words.

    It's interesting that you hear pagan ceremonials. My intent was to convey a more underworld industrial setting. Just another testament to interpretation, and how one thing can be perceived so vastly different by separate entities. It amazes me, really.

    Thank you again, my friend,
    As always, take care.
    Aaron.

  4. thechockehold
    thechockehold on Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 11 months ago

    WOW! Def not my genre at all, but this piece is pure evil. Love it.

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

    Thanks for the listen and the comment.

    Take care.
    V.

  5. Arloph09
    Arloph09 on Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 11 months ago

    hold up..y'all want this thing to be a learning process got ya....maybe next time i will bother to read the comments..

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    I would suggest it. There are a few people here that are a wealth of priceless advice and information. They are always ready and willing to share it without expecting anything in return. But, to find that advice, you have to take the time to dig through comments on other peoples tracks and in the forums.

    It's worth the time and effort.

    Take care.
    V.

  6. crucethus
    crucethus on Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 11 months ago

    Because @Arloph09, you would have seen that the last commenter before you said the exact same thing. And Mr. Valve acknowledged that and provided a reason for why it's like that and what he can do about it. So it´s plus points for you for realizing what needs to be fixed like someone else, but minus points for you for not sharing in the community expression that was already there because you did not bother to engage by reading others' comments. Capiche, my friend.

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Thank you.

    Additional minus points for absolutely no tact whatsoever.

  7. Arloph09
    Arloph09 on Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 11 months ago

    why would i read other comments when i just come to give my two cents

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Not only because of what Crucethus said in the comment above this one, but because sometimes you learn things by reading other comments. But, I'm guessing you aleady know everything there is to know.

  8. Arloph09
    Arloph09 on Mon 9th Nov 2020 - 11 months ago

    the low end ///specially the kick needs more bites..the whole track is super aggressive .so the kick need to match up as well

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    You clearly don't read any other comments.

  9. ClickbaitCabaret
    ClickbaitCabaret on Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 1 year ago

    Spooky. I like it. Great job man.

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  10. randomuser13
    randomuser13 on Thu 1st Oct 2020 - 1 year ago

    Love it bro. Love the mix, very open, wide and clean. I would bring up the kick a little big more and give it some punch as well as the drums. Kick and snare are usually prominent in dubstep. None the less very very good!!

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Thanks for listening, man.

    If I ever get around to searching a couple different storage drives to see if I still have this file backed up somewhere, I'll play around with the levels. But, until then, I've written this one off as a loss. The laptop that I created this one on took the proverbial shit and died. Along with it, this songs original file. But, I totally agree with what you mentioned, and if I could have, I already would have fixed it. But...such is life.

    Either way, I appreciate the suggestion. Not enough people around here throw helpful critiques anymore. That's how we improve, right?

    Anyhow...Take care, man.
    V.

  11. terryjmhitsong
    terryjmhitsong on Tue 29th Sep 2020 - 1 year ago

    WOW THIS SONG HAS A FUTURE....AMAZING MIXING....HOOKS ALL OVER THE PLACE........THX FOR SHARING BRO

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Thank you, sir! I'm glad you liked it.

    Take care.
    Aaron

  12. theHumps
    theHumps on Sat 19th Sep 2020 - 1 year ago

    What a cool trip I just went on. So much to absorb but it was fun. Quite a composition actually. Lots of textural elements and darker sounds and effects to get the listener to get sucked right into this track and be emotionally affected.

    Great job telling a story too. Whether the song has lyrics or not, the composer still has to tell the lister what they are trying to convey. You've done that here, absolutely. Lots of good feedback as I read thru the comments, well deserved.

    Cheers!

    Wayne

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Thank you, Wayne. I appreciate the kind words.

    I have always tried to achieve painting with sound. It hasn't always worked, but I'm glad to hear that it did in this case.

    Thanks again.

    Take care.
    Aaron.

  13. Neomorpheus
    Neomorpheus on Thu 23rd Jul 2020 - 1 year ago

    postscript comment:

    "Even if there are tracks that never existed that might have rap in it, but don't, because ValveDriver would never do that. Ever. It doesn't exist"


    Um, "When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me, speaking words of wisdom, Let it Be."

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Haha! Message received!

  14. crucethus
    crucethus on Sat 18th Jul 2020 - 1 year ago

    What I appreciate about this is how true to the origins of Dubstep (Dark Step)this song is. Reminds me a bit of Bad Company ¨The Nine¨ Bro-step sort of killed the genre and sent it back to the underworld, just like Disco became commercial and House was born. Awesome mastering and sound.
    Steven

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Thank you, sir.

    "Bro-step". Even the name sounds ridiculous.

  15. CINCOCENT
    CINCOCENT on Sat 18th Jul 2020 - 1 year ago

    GEEZ LOUISE i love this to the Bone!

  16. CINCOCENT
    CINCOCENT on Sat 18th Jul 2020 - 1 year ago

    I'm not ending my night without listening to this for one last time.
    Cuz this go hardcore!

  17. Neomorpheus
    Neomorpheus on Sat 18th Jul 2020 - 1 year ago

    Awesome track Aaron. Like you, I really think certain Dubstep elements are amazingly cool but I cant listen to the majority of Dubstep music simply because its so Over-killed with effects. I really appreciate your constraint here and feel this is how is should be done. Did you by chance blend a vocoder with some of the synth? It almost sounds like its trying to form words in spots. As BOD mentioned and you pointed out, the tempo changes are significant and really showcases your ability as a composer.

    Its cool for me also to see others taking interest in your music bro. So, please keep them coming!

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Back around 2012 and earlier, Dubstep was alright. It was a lot less...well, it was a lot less. Once Skrillex got his dick skinners on it, it turned to a load of histrionic garbage.

    As far as the vocoder goes; No. I didn't use one. It's just a generous amount of LFO, envelope filters and added effect manipulations. Like chorus, distortion, dimension expanders, frequency shifting, etc. A lot of the times, with a good waveform a decimated distortion on the cutoff and resonance can give it a vocal effect, too.
    Even though heavy metal is so deeply ingrained into my life that it may as well be part of my DNA, I still love doing this synth stuff because of all of the tweaking of knobs, and shifting of frequencies, the creating. It's the sound design more than the music really. It's like the equivalent of a painter inventing new colors.

    "Its cool for me also to see others taking interest in your music bro"

    Of all the comments I've received on my tracks, that is quite possibly the most meaningful. Thank you sir.

    I hadn't really thought about it, but you're right. Others taking interest. After being (mostly) absent for so long, there are a lot of new "faces" that don't have any idea who Valvedriver is. It's like starting over. Which is okay. I can shed some of that notorious infamy! HAHA!

    As always, my friend, it's good to hear from you. I always look forward to it when I put up something new. Even if there are tracks that never existed that might have rap in it, but don't, because Valvedriver would never do that. Ever. It doesn't exist.

    Eric, take care, man.

  18. CINCOCENT
    CINCOCENT on Fri 17th Jul 2020 - 1 year ago

    Man I can't contain my excitement about this right now like you just treated like so perfect like that fine line works not too much there's not too little to make your drum and bass still our man you think I'm excited about this one my man I never been inside of any other track except for maybe mine but not like this for someone else's for the exceptional job man I can't even express my excitement over this I'm going to just go to work right now and just put the volume full blast.not only that is one of those tracks where you fall asleep to it's nice and in a sense I don't know I just kind of like that dark sense that atmosphere is just something that I've always enjoyed for some reason

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Well, man. I'm flattered that you enjoyed it so much. It's always good to hear that as an artist, my work has an impact on someone.

    As far as the dark atmosphere, there was a time when I was known here for being "the dark one". I mean, no one ever called me that...thank god. But in reference to music, that's what I was associated with.

    I don't know if you ever listened to the first Labyrinth Of The Absurd or not, but if you like this one as much as you do, you will probably like that one just as much.

    Thank you again for your extremely kind words. It's encouraging.

    Take care.
    Valvedriver

  19. CINCOCENT
    CINCOCENT on Fri 17th Jul 2020 - 1 year ago

    Yes I would pay for this sir you are really good my hat's off to you especially from scratch my favorites sounds to mess with too bad downloads are not available: (

  20. CINCOCENT
    CINCOCENT on Fri 17th Jul 2020 - 1 year ago

    Oh hell yeah you're good I remember now if it's a little movie samples clips of the good ones the dark ones I like this one right here. You get down sir

  21. HeathAlexander
    HeathAlexander on Fri 17th Jul 2020 - 1 year ago

    Those synths sound awesome. Thank you for the quality mix. It's a shame so much heavy electric music blasts a limiter for the entire track. The variation is great to hear as well. The slow build in the intro really sets the tone. Awesome atmosphere. Awesome track.

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    Hey man. Thanks for the trifecta! Listen, comment AND fav!

    I'm glad you liked it. I agree that too many producers rely way too heavily on a limiter. Louder isn't always better. Unless you're at a Cannibal Corpse concert. Then it's pretty awesome. But as far as this kind of music goes...clipping is not an instrument!
    If you haven't listened to Part 1, give it a whirl. It's different than this, but also very similar.
    Thanks again, man. I truly appreciate it.

    Take care.
    V.

  22. bringerofDOOM
    bringerofDOOM on Fri 17th Jul 2020 - 1 year ago

    Was surprised by the tempo changes. Even just doubling the tempo like you did is more interesting than being trapped in the same quantized time signature. Also you took the time to mix the dry "dub step" sounds, which can sound awesome but destroy ears and speakers if not handled like actual instruments.

    I'm surprised at this direction compared to your other works, it shows versatility, cool track, fun to listen to, keep digging up old stuff or make something new, I'll probably listen to both.

    ValveDriver
    Reply by ValveDriver

    With this kind of music, tempo changes are a must. With as repetitive as everything else gets, it just gets boring without it. That's my opinion anyhow.

    Yes. Treating the dubstep sounds as an instrument is very important. I've heard a LOT of dubstep that should have never been let out of it's cage because the mix was so uneven and just blasted to it's fullest levels. If used properly, the dubstep sounds can be really freakin' cool. In "Velvet Highway" (and other tracks off mine), I used them as accents and enhancers in he background to really push the main instruments forward.

    This direction is actually the original starting sound of "Valvedriver" I've taken down a lot of my older work to make room for the newer. Most of what you've heard is the new direction. Even though I am a die hard metal fan since 1986 when it first got walking legs, (Like, everything from Metallica to Cannibal Corpse, and Slayer to Nile) I still love to do the synth based darker shit, too. I enjoy the tweaking and sound engineering. More so than actually making the music.

    Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment.

    Take care.

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