Premonator With Promenade2239 - Spivkurl

19th Nov 2015 03:46 - 10 years ago
Description : Here is the long overdue "culmination" of a collaboration between Promenade2239 and myself. Not too long ago he uploaded an inspiring finished version based on this song idea, and it is located here... https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/171320

Included here is Promenade on synthesizers and samples, as well as quite a bit of rhythmic, vocal and arrangement manipulation. The vocals and guitars (classical and electric) were recorded by me, and I did some synthesis and the initial drum loops.

We spent a lot of time and effort developing the idea together. This became especially apparent when I gathered all of the stems I wished to incorporate into this version, and they totalled 85! All in all, it was an extremely valuable experience for me, and I learned so many things (even about myself).

Please leave your comments if you have any, and I will try to reply as I get caught up! Thank you for listening!

Comments (4)

If you have time take a listen and give Spivkurl some feedback.

SecretSam123
SecretSam123 22nd Nov 2015 16:15 - 10 years ago
Bass is nice. Quite a long track for me, but still got the groove. good work.
Spivkurl
Spivkurl replied 30th Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Thank you for leaving your words! I suppose one could call this long, though it is meant as sort of a chanted conjuration more than a pop track. I'm guessing you are more used to higher tempo and standard time signatures, so it may seem to last longer in that way. I'm glad you liked the different basses. Appreciate you stopping by!
Orlando51
Orlando51 21st Nov 2015 16:43 - 10 years ago
Magnificent upgrade of the original, Pat ! It is well evident how much effort has been put into this unique and
creative piece of music....always something extraordinary
and inspiring from you guys ! Huge compliments and admiration! Faved !

All the best______Orlando
Spivkurl
Spivkurl replied 29th Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Thank you Orlando for your continued support! In the case of this song, it almost feels as if there is no "original" version. It was one of the first time which I allowed someone to release a song with my vocals before I had released a version of it. Both are equally original and complete, and I'm happy I gave the "go ahead" as Promenade's version seems more universally acceptable (though it could be the timing in relation to the holidays and stuff). Hopefully we will work on more songs together in the future. Thank you for your words and the fave!
RealProblemShuckers
RealProblemShuckers 19th Nov 2015 18:39 - 10 years ago
Hey, Spiv! It's been a while,

what an oddly weird sound - and I mean that in a good way! I really like the guitar and I am really really digging that outro; it all seems to work.

I like it, fav!!

-R.P.S
Spivkurl
Spivkurl replied 28th Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Thank you much for the kind words! It is very much a strange combination of instruments and influences, but I find that an odd sound represents me far more realistically than something familiar. Happy that you liked the guitar work, as I practised a lot for it... also reconditioned the classical guitar I played it on. Appreciate the comment and the fave!
promenade2239
promenade2239 19th Nov 2015 16:06 - 10 years ago
Hey Pat!

Your version of the song is amazing! I had a chance to listen to it very briefly this morning but the great amount of new elements you introduced was absolutely impressive to me and of course a little overwhelming by that very first listening. You definitely might reached 100 tracks total limit when working on this version! haha

It is hard to comprehend all this considering how much this piece has evolved and how many changes have been created since 'MasterA'. I love all the subtle details you added whithin the frames of composition! There is still a kind of stylistical openness in the terms of space (which I find very cool) but at the same time there is so much happening along the track (I mean the great amount of patterns, ideas pointing very different directions).

Your vocals are cool - the apparent simplicity/repetitivity (regarding to the message and the way it's delivered) is very attractive to me - it's basically a spoken word only but still very melodic and very linear oriented. I am in love with the very raw sound of instruments and raw sound of human voice.

It is impressive how many new elements you introduced here - those are hypnotic, trancy synth layers! Very cool. Also the mix is so pleasant to listen to. Recently I tend turning all the volume knobs up to the extreme on every gain stage which seems to be a good way to detect 'true dynamics' and the 'distortion' on the audio (with the gentle help of the ears haha). Needless to say that most of looperman music can't stand it!

I believe that so called very 'future' of the music (and the future of the humanity in general) can only be driven/progressed somewhere further only that moment when the actual exploring of inner creative possibilities whithin one's human body-mind is happening (I mean if it's happening in that very 'now' continous space). I believe it is a very moment-by-moment kind of 'consciousness' thing only. That's a kind of a general thought of mine haha but I hope you will agree with me at this point.

I really enjoyed listening to your version of the song a lot. Thank you for giving me such a precious inspiration and inviting me to into such a creative crazy trip!

I will try to write more after taking a closer listening to your mix.

Best to you, Alex
Spivkurl
Spivkurl replied 28th Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Thank you for always being one of the first to comment on my uploads! I don't know if it just the timing (holidays and all) or what, but your version received a far more spectacular response. With that in mind I'm happy that you released it!

There is a large variety of sounds in here, and that is partly thank to your contributions and influences. I'm particularly happy with the spontaneous additions added with my pss-470 keyboard (just got it). The FM sound of it really adds a different touch, and it is so fun to improvise on despite the mini keys (used to those).

This turned out more lyrically repetitive than my intentions, but by the time I realized it I was fond of the arrangement. I'm glad you like the general rawness... I tried to move things more in that direction with this version. That may be part of why this is not well loved.

I think the mix turned out pretty nice considering how many things are going on within. I've been trying to err on the side of quietude and dynamics lately. I'm just getting so fatigued by all the heavily layered brickwalled modern underground. It's hard for me to close my ears, you know what I mean.

I do agree about your "consciousness" comment. I was just speaking about a similar thing with a friend... my actions, not just in music, are often about changing and teaching by using the moment where energy and matter combine. I believe there are some parallels with what you were speaking about. A continuous stream of moments with decidedly and subtly life changing happenings.

I'm happy we were able to create a couple of songs together, and I think that it won't be the last time! Appreciate your words my friend!

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