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11th Jan 2014 18:33 - 11 years ago
Description : Still working on longer version...DL available on this one if you like...Cheers for comments :)

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GhostGuitar
GhostGuitar 18th Jul 2015 10:00 - 10 years ago
Your tits are good!
EricMilligan
EricMilligan 28th Aug 2014 18:19 - 11 years ago
Matt, I assume that's you doing the singing on this track? Sounds really good. I like the simplicity and your (usual) excellent orchestration. You get much better results that I do with orchestral arrangements. It can't just be that you have better sounding VSI's that I do. That being said, this is one track where I wish you'd uploaded the acappella because I might be inclined to try an entirely different backing track for the vocals. Not sure what, exactly, but there's a mellotron in there someplace I think! :)
CabeSipes
CabeSipes 23rd Jan 2014 18:12 - 11 years ago
very good
Baggadub
Baggadub 16th Jan 2014 22:30 - 11 years ago
Hi Maffin.. Masterpiece.. And really good singing voice.
10/10

rock on

Peter
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 16th Jan 2014 22:22 - 11 years ago
well....you should to be happy with this one Maff....a bit short & sweet...but its got the goods intended I think...We dont all have the same taste in music just as we all dont like the same kind of art...but I liked this one...piano and strings always get my ears pleasantly perked..dm good singer too...good job...Keep doing it your way......Ed
johnnyproducing
johnnyproducing 15th Jan 2014 21:28 - 11 years ago
This sounds so great, vocals are like perfect ;) Thanks for sharing this with us its and outstanding track and I enjoyed it thoroughly ;)
monsterage
monsterage 15th Jan 2014 17:09 - 11 years ago
This is Beautiful.
VickyDan
VickyDan 15th Jan 2014 13:56 - 11 years ago
Hello ....

There would probably a thousand things to write here, but what I remember mostly is what you have done. This is quite awesome.
There are all the ingredients for a good track .... and I know whereof I speak.

You may redo it again, but keep the frame of this musical history, It's important .... This is just my humble opinion of course .... Good luck.

Dan
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 17th Jan 2014 - 11 years ago
Thanks Dan - did a longer one but not quite right, so leaving this one up for now as history as you say.

Hopefully you get chance to hear the little new thing...Dust / Stars which I think has an interesting mood.

Cheers
M
Pixxlexia
Pixxlexia 15th Jan 2014 13:05 - 11 years ago
Huge fan of orchestra
loved the quality and sounds used
very nice loved it aye :D
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 13th Jan 2014 23:35 - 11 years ago
" it's the obvious thing to do in a way...but it doesn't do it justice and makes a good thing dull."

Well, I'm glad we agree. I took a slight risk of offence writing that as you might have absolutely loved this version.

If I were a record company boss I'd probably say go with the MOR version.

Damn, just realised you've reverted back to the original so I can't comment on the longer one.

Anyway, the record company would say do the longer MOR version, make a video, have some hot women fawning over your suited lead singer, people get their lighters out and sway and all that.

But, you've got an opportunity to do something unexpected with this. Just through you choice of music over those same vocals.

First off: make the longer version groove a lot more. You'll probably do some sort of electro pop funk though I'd prefer to see a bit of edge. Make it slightly rougher and darker and edgier and it could stand out as something quite different.

I think the 2 min version sort of does everything you need for its vibe and then the other 3.5 mins didn't add anything, just sort of plodded along.

Give the extended version some real balls and people will probably enjoy the surprise.

I look forward to hearing what you choose.
Cestevens1783
Cestevens1783 13th Jan 2014 17:04 - 11 years ago
Wow, this makes my feelings feel stuff. What a lovely track here, I very much enjoyed it.
PRINCELECTRO
PRINCELECTRO 13th Jan 2014 16:41 - 11 years ago
briallant! love that vocal, loved this
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 13th Jan 2014 11:46 - 11 years ago
Really didn't understand your previous reply of "Thanks. I think we had the same idea...ish...let me know :)"

Now I get it - there's a full version. But I don't think we did have the same idea!

1:52 drum fill definitely isn't right. It comes in too early, before that vocal and mood has decayed.

So, this continuation continues (when the drums enter)in the most obvious and natural way. With my eclectic sort of tastes, I was sort of hoping for something slightly more unusual.

It's all pleasant but maybe, with those drums, a bit light and middle of the road. They're not really making the track kick or groove. Might be better without them, as in first 2 mins.

I was hoping they'd come in and really make the whole thing take off with some deep grooves. Strange that it overall feels like quite a short track. I'm still trying to work out why as 5:46 is a pretty decent length.

So, overall, and other people may shoot me down for saying this, I preferred the 2 min version. But don't worry too much about my opinion and preferences as lots of other people will love this.

You never did say who the vocalist is.
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 13th Jan 2014 - 11 years ago
You're right. It just doesn't work. I think I needed to go through the MOR thing, just to hear it out loud as it's the obvious thing to do in a way...but it doesn't do it justice and makes a good thing dull.

I'm back at the drawing board right now...but I think I've got a better idea...

Extremely helpful reply as you put it very well.

M
ScottB55
ScottB55 13th Jan 2014 10:12 - 11 years ago
Very nice, Maff! Love it, as is, but if you want a critique, maybe boost the overall volume and possible a bit less reverb on the vocals, but that's just me.

Good job!

Cheers,
Scott
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 13th Jan 2014 - 11 years ago
Thanks Scott - yeah the reverb is a bit all over the place at the moment, and there's a poor dead spot around 3.49 to 3.59 where nothing happens, which needs more orchestration. That cello F sharp at 1.58 I think is musically right, but bloody robot cellist can't play it legato, so that needs sorting.

I'll pick up the levels too and sort out the mix, but just wanted a nod I was heading in the right direction here...

I liked the simplicity of the original, and didn't want to ruin it (!), but def wanted it to 'open out' without getting too Bryan Adamsy....

Thanks for feedback - will keep going :)

Matt
bbedford48
bbedford48 12th Jan 2014 19:24 - 11 years ago
Yea. love this track. All the music is great. I really like the way there are spaces between vocal phrases to let the listener process. And the second section with bass really sits well.
I think you could give it more presence in the mix, maybe a shade brighter, vocs up a little in the first section.
(Still I'm an old guy and my ears may not be quite up there so take my suggestions with a pinch of salt :) )

Great work

Bob
Neomorpheus
Neomorpheus 12th Jan 2014 16:31 - 11 years ago
Yeah this is tight.
I tend to like it as it is.
Its beautiful musically, great words and wonderful meaning.
But I'm also curious as to what else you might have in store.
Vocals sound very close to Sonny Sandoval, lead singer to P.O.D. and one of my favorite bands on the face.
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 12th Jan 2014 - 11 years ago
Not rocket science, but this sort of thing??

Let me know if you can. Cheers.
M
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 12th Jan 2014 12:34 - 11 years ago
Wow, this is brilliant. Where the hell are those vocals from? Surely that must be some sort of 'name' singer?

This truly sounds like it could/should be a big hit. Boybands, crooners and all sorts of other people would love to sing it.

You may have gathered by now that I tend to like long (or very long) deep stuff. But I actually think this works fine at this really rather short length.

But it does promise so much more so perhaps you could do two versions?

If I were making it, my longer version might even kick straight into metal, just after the vocal has finished. I challenge you to do a longer version that is a surprise and maybe just keep the shorter version drumless and with the same vibe you have here.

Piano sounds great right from the off and I just had the feeling that everything else would be great too. I quite like how the strings and piano don't start at exactly the same time.

More to say but that will do for now.

Excellent work, no criticism at all.
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 12th Jan 2014 - 11 years ago
Thanks. I think we had the same idea...ish...let me know :)
mackit
mackit 12th Jan 2014 03:58 - 11 years ago
Can't wait to hear the second part. Great vocal sound and skills. SMooth overall sound. PEACE THE MACK MAN OUT.
krcopeland
krcopeland 12th Jan 2014 03:16 - 11 years ago
Nice and mellow. Solid vocal!
bbedford48
bbedford48 11th Jan 2014 21:44 - 11 years ago
Great Track! all performances spot on. I thought the strings needed a bit more separation from the vocs, maybe stereo expansion and a bit less middle

Interested to hear how the song develops after 1:48

Bob
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 12th Jan 2014 - 11 years ago
Thanks. Let me know what you think of the longer one...:)

Cheers
M
Danke
Danke 11th Jan 2014 20:25 - 11 years ago
Yeah, those 2 colleagues are right...this is fantastic, specially the vocs...I have to say, that's incredible voice...don't know, if it's yours or this is from somewhere else but who cares, you are lucky...:-)
Full song in it's state for me...
Standing ovation, Danke
Stevejaz
Stevejaz 11th Jan 2014 20:14 - 11 years ago
I think this is one of the best tunes and songs I have heard on this site. A fantastic job. It is perfect as it stands or you could take it anywhere you wanted.
Now excuse me while I go listen to your other tracks.
FingaPrintZ
FingaPrintZ 11th Jan 2014 19:58 - 11 years ago
Man, this sound is on point! Good job!

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