I thought you might get a kick out of "Consider yourself greeted". Has an appealing simplicity and a bit of attitude. I also run out of new greetings though I do have a few stored up (I also easily forget them). It's my difficult challenge to come up with a new one every time for you. "A hail of hermaphroditic helloes" I've already used but maybe I'll repeat it in a year or so when I've really run out and seemingly been through all the at least half sensible possibilities.
Your process with the weird little squealing sound reminds me of my various processing techiques. I'll chop up, reorder, layer and add effects to any of my playing in order to make more of it. Would be good to hear more of that sort of thing from you as it's a real track highlight here.
I can see why you're amused by me not liking your first ever bent note (note the note, the riff as a whole). I imagine my first recorded bent note was in my first recording (bass and guitar). I sometimes wonder how you don't bend the strings. If I'm letting a note hang, I'll probably just give it a little wiggle, for added emphasis. I'm thinking you must have to consciously stop yourself from doing this as it couldn't be more natural to me. Or we've got a very different mental approach to playing the strings. Yours may well be more precise and regimented, mine much more ramshackle and lazy. Laissez-faire, you might say. If you get a hanging bend just right with the groove, it can be way better than any new note you might play.
I too have tone issues with this track, that's why it's still a Not Bader.
I don't completely reject fade-out endings though I rarely hear a good one on here. Has to be done skilfully, not just giving the feeling that someone's turning the volume control down over 5-10 secs.
Good to hear you use 'cop out'. We also sometimes say 'cop off' (with), which means something along the lines of kiss/have sex with (degree is vague). So, perhaps your equivalent of 'make out', which we never, ever say. Doesn't exist in UK and I probably only know about it from US TV and movies.
If I do make it to Florida for the mic pickup, I will be looking spic and span in a fine suit, bow tie and bowler hat. My paddling butler will indeed be quite unkempt. I will constantly have to spray him with various pleasant smelling things just to give my nose some peace. As I misplaced the mic when moving into the sheds in October, I haven't played or recorded any banj in ages. Same goes for my other better-sounding but harder to play resonator guitar. Would like to record them again.
P.S. Cello still going very badly. Still no bow, plucked recordings don't sound good. May have been wrong purchase though I hope not and will just have to stick at it.
"If I do make it to Florida for the mic pickup, I will be looking spic and span in a fine suit, bow tie and bowler hat. My paddling butler will indeed be quite unkempt. I will constantly have to spray him with various pleasant smelling things just to give my nose some peace."
This made me laugh actually really hard. That's as close as I can get to an "LOL", which I hate with a passion. Really, I hold issue with nearly all abbreviation used unless it's something like IBM, FBI, SETI, DIY, and GFY,.... though I've admittedly used the last one.
But LOL, IDK, HMU, LMK, and any little picture drawn using brackets, dashes and other keyboard tom-foolery is a sign of someone I really don't want to know.
" Cello still going very badly. Still no bow, plucked recordings don't sound good. May have been wrong purchase though I hope not and will just have to stick at it."
I have full faith in you. How does it sound through your octave pedal? Can your octave pedal go up an octave or two, or just down? Would like to hear you pluck it, heavily processed in quarter notes like the kick in the intro to Sabbath's "Iron Man", by itself for an intro to a track. A fast and strong modulation with a little pre distortion, and up a few octaves. But, I'm sure you have done much experimentation and know already what things will sound like ass.
Best of luck, and I feel that no instrument purchase is a bad one, unless it's the instrument itself that sounds bad/cheap.
Hope that mic turned up. I checked my gig-bag, wasn't in there either. Sorry. I'll ask Clint the Klepto, but he always says he don't know shit!
I've heard this a few times and also watched the video, which I thought was well done.
When I first saw the track title, I thought it was going to be a cover of the Nirvana classic. Sadly not as that's a much better song. This certainly isn't my kind of genre of song but it's all well done, as always. I'll just say some more for now about the video, which is well made.
It's got a real simplicity to it, which is all it needs. I think people into this kind of music want to see the people making it so you deliver on that front. The beach/water backdrop provides a decent contrast from the studio and the edits are fine. Camera quality is good. There's nothing particularly interesting happening or any sort of narrative but that doesn't matter. That takes a lot more work, time, planning and probably expense.
I'd say the video is pretty much good enough for commercial release. But, in the world of Youtube, it already has been released so it's not like you need it to be on MTV (yes, I know they don't really do many music videos anymore) for anyone to see it.
Finally, well done on doing this whole song and video so quickly.
How are you able to write such long thoughtful replies??? Lol Its hard for me to find the time :P Thanks for your comments. I agree, for being rushed it wasn't exactly playing out a plot but I was honestly just testing out my camera for it :P Appreciate the honest comments, my good Static Nomad. C:
Nice to see a couple of other people have felt sufficiently moved to pass comment on your wang. The Prick Of Despair is a fun title and a suitable B-side for this track (if such things still existed).
Anyway: you have nicened this track up bro though it still doesn't make your badass folder.
Can't really notice the lead line being much different. Probably just thicker, as you say.
1:35 that is a fucking killer, weird little squealing sound. Brought in with a dramatic fill and then continued lots later. Cool effect. Getting a bit creaturey (?) there. Sort of thing I might do. But I haven't and you have.
2:24 not so keen on that lead line. But it's only short so not to worry (but brought back later). Maybe just too forced a melody or something. Not bad, just something slightly off about it.
I can't find that much else to say about the second half. It's decent, just doesn't really grab me. Lots of sounds I've heard from you before and just the one cool, new one.
3:50 sparser ending sounds good but fadeout is still a bit of a cop out. Hope you have that term in Yankland. Nothing to do with cops.
Later, wang hater...
P.S.
As to an unanswered question from elsewhere: no shit-shifting injuries yet but lots more shit to shift. Going OK and I'm taking it slow. As long as I've got somewhere half decent to sleep and my music gear all/mostly set up (where the hell has my microphone gone?) then I'm happy.
Your best opening ever. Run out of greetings sometimes, especially when doing 11 comment replies in a row.
"Can't really notice the lead line being much different. Probably just thicker, as you say."
Yeah, I played over it a few times with different distortion settings and blended them. Problem is, I have only solid-state amps, and no real way to get a good guitar lead tone that is distorted. Sounds like a weird, wonky synth coming from my pedal. That pedal is awesome, but it really has only one way to distort a signal. Fine for most bass stuff, but not guitar. I've been looking into preamps and tube amps.
"weird little squealing sound"
That is a single played note that slides down from 12 to 0. Chopped it and reversed it, ran it through amp sim software with a delay. I liked it. It's a single slide, but reversed delay is what makes it Neat-O!
"2:24 not so keen on that lead line."
This cracked me up. It's cool if you don't like it, but it's the VERY FIRST time I did a bend on a track. Last note of that line bends. The line may get replaced. Had a lot of tone issues with this track, and still do. Most of it is overdone.
Yes, we "Yanklanders" say "cop-out". I know you reject fade-outs as credible endings for tracks. I do like the removal of parts until it's down to something you never knew was there.
"where the hell has my microphone gone?"
Wanna borrow mine? Hop in your kayak and head west. I'll be waiting near Florida, balancing on a lone bouey, trying like hell to keep the mic dry. You'll have to announce yourself upon arrival, as I have no idea what you look like and will not recognize you, and you will look very unkempt. Paddling the Atlantic would make for some pretty righteous pits. And you can just paddle that shit back to me when you're done with it, as well. Mail is so lazy.
And I'm back. I know what you mean about pure love being devoid of cheesiness but that doesn't always translate into musical success.
I play some deep, far out stuff but I still quite often play something quite cheesy. I have no definite idea why that is. Certainly not my intent. Sometimes I go through and "de-cheesify" tracks, especially when it comes to slightly annoying synth sounds.
Anyway: more detail.
0:08 those first notes work well for me. Then other tinkly creeping notes a bit later and some little hints of percussion.
I think it's that marimba on 0:26 that says "playful, gentle doggy music".
And then you build your percussion. Very dry (ie lacking reverb) so close and sort of warm, perhaps a bit like puppies. You don't want to make it a space puppies track, right? I probably would have but then that's just the kind of music I make.
0:51 guitarey sort of synth instrument is pretty decent and you've also got some kettle drum rolls in there, which I like. Beat is solid and grooving now.
1:09 guitar is a surprise. Might seem a little out of place but it's playing good notes so no problem there. Rather: an interesting brief, little flavour.
Marimba sits in there all the time, almost as a bass line. Return of keyboard guitarey instrument theme towards the end and bit of strings and then a decaying end note which has been cut off of a bit too soon. Just need a few seconds more on that.
That's the longest review i have ever got for my song. I really appreciate you putting so much of your time to review this song.
And yes, i agree that we aren't always successful to translate our feelings into music. But sometime's we do get lucky. About cheesiness in music, sometimes its the need of the song and sometimes, its just the our perception.
About your in depth review, I wanted to keep the beginning as soft & as smooth as possible, So i experimented with staccato notes on flute, and it gave me what i wanted.
Yes, i did listen to some of the references on Animal Planet and Marimba was the most common instrument used for the lead. So i rejected some 5-6 leads myself which i was randomly playing on some major chords and then i finally got settled on this.
I kept the percussions dry for just one pure reason, to give the live feeling to the song. I wanted to give this song an Epic feeling but still keeping it soft.
Marimba was doing my job wherever the lead was concerned, but then i felt this track needed some instrument that can brighten up the track a little. Hence, guitar is introduced here.
I felt by keeping the marimba in the background, the song won't lose it's feel, so here it worked as a bass line too.
About the end, i totally agree with you i should have stretched it a little i feel now.
Thanks again for that great review brother. look forward to such reviews in the near future too.
A hail of hermaphroditic helloes* heading your way.
Do you have disdain for your wang? Or does someone else? Or is it someone's else wang you have disdain for? Perhaps the school bully who used to slap you around the face with his as an oh-so-funny prank.
Maybe you have disdain for a Chinese dude you know called Wang. Quite a common Chinese name, meaning that there are millions of walking, talking wangs in this world.
Anyway, cool intro with some reverse elements and then a good groove at 0:10, in which your drums sound good. Cool bass tone too.
0:19 lead I find way too light and "airy". Just a bit weak, sound-wise. Guess that's guitar. Sounds a little like a synth or violin, like maybe it has a slow attack. A different lead sound would make it much better.
1:36 bongo-style drum fill is good and then more bongoey beats.
2:05 some of the key changes make me think of something like the Knightrider theme from the 80s. Bet you used to watch that show. The Hoff's second most famous role, after Baywatch. But he's a lot better known in Germany for his pop music. Explain that!
Definitely impressed with the drum programming here. Busy and inventive and some cool fills. No criticism there. Better guitar sounds would help a lot.
Overall: I'm putting this in my Evisma Not Bad, Could Be Better folder. Improvements could make it migrate into my Evisma Badass folder.
* I guess a hermaphroditic hello would be one combining male and female tones in one. So, a little like Tuvan throat singing, in which they somehow manage to layer two different tones at the same time. An incredible sound, in case you've never heard it. My favourite group who do that are called Huun Huur Tu and they're amazing singers.
The Wang Of Disdain is an odd name. Came to me while driving. I think something on the radio rhymed and I started playing with the rhythmic syllable scheme in my head.
I went in and did a bit of layering on the lead line. Not nearly as light as before. May be good, may be bad.
I also added a second half. Different feel that is kind of hard to describe,... but I dig it.
No, never got into any Hasselhoff. Most of my childhood was spent on a bmx style bike, just getting away from the house. Watched more movies than shows. Never seen Baywatch, though it was big here when I was around ten or so. Never really cared. Gravitated towards comedies and horrors.
I've seen Tuvan throat singing, but just one old guy who was producing some crazy harmonics with a prolonged grunt and some nasal whistling. Still neat.
This is good though I appreciate that it's very much a work in progress. Adding more elements (and length) should indeed help.
This is fairly skilfully put together and definitely the basis for some proper funk.
Jazz guitar keyboard playing is good and sets the tone nicely. Then the first problem: that hat stands out as having the wrong sort of sound (too dry, needs reverb) and the wrong timbre. I know there's no "wrong" in music, I'm just saying how I feel. I have loads of good drum sounds but in some tracks they do feel wrong. Might also have groove not quite right. Play around with some different quantise settings.
Brass blasts are decent. Could be a better sampled sound but I guess it's the best you have. I hardly have any decent brass sampled instruments. They generally don't sound good played in a regular way so I have to use them in a different way ie add loads of delay or whatever.
0:55 first cool brass fill. Makes me think not of funk but some other genre. More jazz or ska or something similar.
I hope these thoughts help just a little bit.
Good luck with it as it's definitely worth continuing with.
Hello there! Thank you for your comment. I actually intended for this track to be a Funk/Jazz type. This is simply the alpha stage of the track. It's no where near being finished. My goal is...or now was to have other musicians/producers to add their own stuff into this song, like a simple freestyle off, or something y'know? Just a few bars of just simply ad libing. The drum kits are in their most basic forms, which will need to be redone, however, hopefully someone will correct that, and add their own realistic drum loops. I'd be honored if you perhaps done a few bars of free play on the track with any instrument. If interested, message me man. Nevertheless, thank you again for your comment.
Damn, 10 hours a day is a lot. I'm not sure even I do that (when I have that many hours in a day spare) and I'm quite the music and music making obsessive.
Anyway, this is good but I don't love it. But I could come to love it if there were some really fine vocals added. A good song, basically. It sounds like there's lots of space left for vocals. However, if you never get them I'd say you might need to add some more elements or shorten the track to keep my interest.
You pan pipe instrument again, as in another of your tropical chill tracks. At many points I like it, at others I don't. Maybe it plays a little too often. I'm not quite sure.
This is actually really well made, with a very bright and easy listening sound. Fine mix and I'm not sure I can criticise any of it. There's a lot of good space in the whole track, which allows all the elements to breathe.
Hey Static,
Yeah well I'm on spring break so I can afford to spend that much time sitting there making music haha. But thank you for your compliments and criticisms, I like that you are very honest and straightforward in your comments, thats what helps make people better. I do have a female vocalist that is providing some really good vocals for the track and I am very excited to be working with her. I'm going to be posting the song again with vocals soon so be sure to check it out. I hope you like it!
I'm not really hearing any hip hop in this. Maybe just a little.
Instead, I hear what could be a hit pop song, if you get some good vocals. Simple strummed guitar is well recorded and it has quite an uplifting feel so perfect for an emotional ballad to be played in stadiums all round the world.
Strings help give it that uplifting feel. They get stronger, with more melodies, towards the end (from 3:21).
It's the sort of thing I've heard many, many times before but it's well done and I can't really criticise anything or suggest a different way of doing things as it's quite a standard type of song composition.
A lovely piece of music that I will review in much greater detail when I find the time.
Intro is very peaceful and the whole thing is really quite uplfiting. Maybe could be used for a puppy soundtrack? Lots of other soundtracks too as this has some class and elegance to it.
It's very easy listening but not of the cheesy variety.
Thank you very much for your kind words. Pure love is devoid of cheesiness. isn't it? Will be eagerly looking forward to your detailed review and m really glad you liked it.
OK, no professional bass model used by you so now I will see your real face (and bass) when I read your track reviews and listen to your tracks.
Yes, store that bass praising sentence away if you like. I think I generally applaud your bass playing. My main criticism of it would be that you seem not to come up with that many memorable "hooks" or lines that I can remember after listening to the track. It's usually creative playing around the chord sequence without hitting on a simple, distinctive riff. Or maybe you do have some distinctive riffs but bury them in the mix (or just play them once). I'm not sure.
I like to do all sorts of playing around a chord sequence but am always looking for the best, coolest parts that I can bring out and emphasise. I do a lot of chopping up and moving around of my recorded audio parts. My guess would be that you don't. So, when I hear your bass playing for two minutes, that's probably what you played, without any edits. But I could be wrong.
I'm sure I've said to you before that I mostly make music by jamming around an 8 or 16 bar loop for a good few minutes (my record is a 17 minute take; I did an 11 minute one recently on guitar for my track Emperor Tritone), trying out a few different pre-prepared ideas and then, once I think I've played them well enough a few times, I do whatever come to mind - usually something completely unpredictable. That's how I sometimes get some of my strangest and most interesting stuff. And then I spend ages carefully taking the best bits and joining sections together. Real cheating compared with someone who really knows what they're doing and just plays it all in one go, with no edits.
I have no idea how many people work the way I do but maybe you could try out my technique and see if you come up with some unusual, unexpected things.
I still don't quite understand why people take loops of their music and give them away for free on Looperman (if they're good, why not use them yourself) but if I wanted to, I could easily make thousands and thousands of good loops.
Sorry to hear no one is even fully playing your tracks on Bandcamp. Perhaps I slightly worry that if I put stuff up for download, very few people will care about it so why bother. I know that's quite a defeatist attitude but I am a bit like that in general. I guess I just have higher ambitions for my music but these days making recorded music seems to be no big deal and nothing special or even interesting to most people. So, it's hard to get any interest from people, even if you're good. We can blame cheap music technology for all of this. But, without it, I could not do what I do.
Sorry for no other comment on your track but I thought you might be interested in a few words about other music-related things.
Hi MrNomad,
Thanks for the interesting comment... lots of points worth discussing.
"It's usually creative playing around the chord sequence without hitting on a simple, distinctive riff"
You are right, this is what I do on most the stuff I have uploaded here. The main reason is on this type of music (chill-out-ish/jazzy-ish) I see the bass more as an "harmonic" than a "melodic" instrument. Of course, this is my vision.
I prefer to let the "theme" be played by other instruments.
And you are also right on the working approach I used: all the bass lines are done in one take (or few takes joined together). Why? Not sure ... I think it has a lot to do with the effect I wanted to achieve.
Was it good? don't know... but I wanted to try it.
And this was also the reason for me to "release" these 14 tracks as an album: I wanted to "close" this phase and move to something different.
As soon as I find some time, I will start experimenting with your approach: it sounds really intriguing.
"I still don't quite understand why people take loops of their music and give them away for free on Looperman"
In my case, I have uploaded only few loops but I hope I will upload more in the future.
The main reason for giving them away for free is that I don't know how to use them.
So, either they are not "good enough" (too bad for the people downloading then) or just I have not seen their potential (and this what I hope).
"Sorry to hear no one is even fully playing your tracks on Bandcamp"
Thanks, but it is no big deal to me: I know that nowadays it is very hard to attract people's interest.
Commercial music must be "easy": the song has less than 10 seconds to hook the listener. Sad.
And to make things worse, I have made the music downloadable only as a "full album".
This is because I believe that this music works as a "flow" ... at least this is how I have seen it.
This reflects also my way of listening to music. And it may be one of the reasons why your tracks resonate so well to me: each of your tracks is a kind of "mini-album" on its own.
"We can blame cheap music technology"
No we will not.
As you write, it is simply wonderful to have access to all these toys for little money.
I got Logic Pro for less than 200euro ... I bought a very good audio interface for 350euro ... and the quality of these stuff is incredible!
I still remember the "good old days" when I started using Cubase on a 486 PC, with a crappy sound-blaster: the audio card was not able to work in "duplex". So I used a cassette recorder for the takes while listening to the existing tracks on the pc and then I acquired the take in a second step. Awful!
OK... I will now stop with this "flow of memories".
Thanks again for your words.
Sincerely yours,
Domenico
No, you certainly don't want this to feel too fast. That's why I just suggested raising the tempo by about 5 BPM. Or you could even automate it so that the whole track subtly speeds up and/or slows down. No tempo drag in the second half so I'd suggest just trying out my suggestions on the first half.
Or, keep the same tempo but do some other things with the drums to give the illusion of it being a bit faster. So, one thing that can work nicely is to make the hats faster/busier, perhaps keeping the rest of the drums just as they are.
Tempo and feel of the track are interesting things and I have tracks at the same tempo that feel like they're very different tempos. For instance, two tracks made on the same timeline sound perhaps 10-15 BPM apart but are the same tempo. One track (Random Acts Of Human Kindness) uses a lazy shuffle blues groove, making it seem much slower than the tighter hip hop type of groove used in the other track (The Shit).
Yes, I saw Danke and Epic's comments and didn't think there was anything lacking in the second half so I guess you've done a good job adding a bit more activity (only a guess because I haven't heard the earlier version).
You can definitely do lots more good chillout music.
You don't want to leave it at only one classy chillout track...
The making the hats a bit busier in the 1st half sounds like the best option, i always have trouble with automating the bpm, for me it complicates the track.
Yeah i remember 'Random Acts Of Human Kindness' awesome track :) not to familiar with 'The Shit' haha will have to give that one a listen.. awesome title by the way ;) haha
Yeah i changed alot and added alot after danke's comment, mostly in the second half just doing what you've been saying actually, and adding more percussion and making it feel more busy :), i just need to find that middle ground for the first half that makes it not as busy as the second half but not as slow as it is.
"You can definitely do lots more good chillout music.
You don't want to leave it at only one classy chillout track..."
i dont plan too haha, ill do definitely more chillout/mellow stuff.
already got the beginnings of another chillout track :D
Hi. Not sure I've reviewed one of your tracks before.
This is good though my first feeling is that it's a bit slow. The beat seems to drag a bit. As it's all synth stuff, I'm guessing you could just up the BPM, say by about 5 BPM or so. Try it out.
Actually 2:04 it doesn't seem to drag as much though it does in the first half. Just a minor criticism.
Otherwise, it's a good collection of synth sounds with an uplifting, positive vibe but not cheesy.
Around 2:18 or so the high wailing lead is excellent. Pulling the emotions this way and that, things building nice. Bit of a soaring guitar lead feel in there.
Piano sound has a warm tone.
Good, clean mix and that second half rolls along really well, not getting boring. And then it comes to a nice conclusion, with some odd, reverbed squawking sound added as well (also in the first half, now I listen again).
Basically, it's good chillout music (elegant, as Crucethus said) but not the boring type that doesn't go anywhere or that is too polite and gentle.
Hey Static :D, yeah not sure ive seen you on one of my tracks before, well im glad you stopped by this time :D
"it's a bit slow"
- Hmm. a raise in bpm could work but, i dont want it to feel too fast though.
When im working on it later ill work with the idea and see what happens :)
"the high wailing lead is excellent"
- honestly thats my favourite part haha, i was messing around with a bit of glide and once i had that down-glide at the end of the bar i was like "damn! yup thats going on the song!" haha
"Good, clean mix and that second half rolls along really well / with some odd, reverbed squawking"
- yeah after danke and Epic's comments i added some stuff to fill out that second half and.. yeah the weird squawking was one of those additions. It gives the track a bit of character i think haha or it makes it sound like ive got a Eagle trapped in my song.. either way im all for it haha
"Basically, it's good chillout music"
Really!? aww cool, like ive said ive never done this genre before so for people to be enjoying my first go at it is really cool.
It's really hard to know but I seem to be enjoying the track more now. I can't tell if removing those sound FX has helped that at all or perhaps you also tidied up a few other things and made things run a bit more smoothly.
The track now seems cleaner and less cluttered than before. I indeed had no problem with the sound FX but sometimes cleaner, sparser is better. That's something I struggle with a lot as I like to use a lot of sounds and keep things very busy most of the time. But I'm also good at peeling back the layers to create different moods for different sections so that's how I tend to do it rather than removing an element entirely from a track.
So, I guess I'm saying you could add the sound FX here and there rather than ditch it/them entirely.
Anyway, I don't have a lot more to add as I think I said most of it before. It's really a cool little track.
Aah, spring is here, the sun is emerging (good enough for getting the kayak out now), women are indeed wearing a bit less and you're thinking of sun and petals and stuff as you travel about the Ozarks scaping the land. And you have turned those thoughts into MP3 format. How nice.
First surprise is some early reggae-like little gentle staccato guit strums that appear at various later points.
Then a slightly different drum groove for you ( a good one) and then more familiar crash and low end bass thump at 0:23. Little dancing guitars on top. You play guitar in a slightly odd very lead gentle clean melodic way, which is quite a surprise. Didn't think you'd play it like that so much when you said you'd got your PRS so could get it in tracks regularly. And still no string bends. You may have the blues but you don't play them.
0:48 familiar type of bass riff but it's good so nice criticism there. Would like to have it in my music. Not to worry, I have many other types of basslines. I'd happily do your bass playing if I had your setup and could physically manage it but I don't and probably can't so too bad.
Toms there also good, providing contrast for when main hat-led beat kicks back in. You're varying the drums nicely in this. Much improvement from being the slave to loops I think you used to be. You've also got some effective delay on the snare in your very chilled next section 1:40. Delay is easily my favourite ever effect. Probably then distortion. Retriggering or tape stop/slowdown are also pretty badass.
I wasn't going to after the first listen but I think I'm going to go ahead and award you the coveted Nice Track Bro trophy. Cherish it dearly and polish it regularly. It is quite large and heavy but perhaps you could wear it triumphantly around your neck as jewellery as you go about your business in town. People are sure to show you more respect and awe.
Must go due to tiredness but I will return for more detail. Hope your trophy arrives via FedEx by then.
Spring is indeed back, but not technically. I have a neighbor who's entire front lawn is packed of purple crocuses below the sod, so right before the grass comes out of dormancy, the grass lawn is completely hidden by a layer of bright purple densely packed flowers. Happens every year, and it's one of the things I always look forward to.
"You play guitar in a slightly odd very lead gentle clean melodic way, which is quite a surprise. Didn't think you'd play it like that so much when you said you'd got your PRS so could get it in tracks regularly."
I have to wonder how you though I would play it. I think, now that you described it like you did, that I play the guitar the same way I approach the bass. Really, I'd like to do heavier stuff than what I've been doing, but I'm just learning how to get sounds I like with the guitar. The guitar tone at the end of this track bugs me a bit. I'd like to be doing heavier stuff, but I've never written for guitar lines before, and never really played them.
"Retriggering or tape stop/slowdown are also pretty badass."
No clue how to do any of that. I have a multi-beat groove delay that is quite cool.
The trophy will go on the wall, next to the faded, holy, sleeveless, ragged Aenima tee shirt that saw the best times of my mid-to-late teens and early twenties. It's the black one with the "contortionist" image from the cd on the back. It hangs triumphantly on the music room wall, looking down on me, mocking my thinning hair and thickening torso.
Hi. I'm a big fan of the original track and I've commented in detail on that already so won't do it again here.
It's cool to hear an Evisma tracks with vocals. Shows what his music could turn into if he had some vocalists (or just one).
Vocals work pretty well, even though they're not really my sort of style. You've definitely made a proper song out of it. Damn hard to say what sort of genre this is now. Certainly something creative and unusual.
The rising chorus type of section is pretty melodic and far out and really fits the music well. Good also that you got the title in the lyrics halfway through.
Yes, it's a bit squashed so a better version could certainly be made.
Overall: congrats on doing a good job on someone else's track and showing the potential any piece of instrumental music has to be turned into something different with the addition of vocals.
WOW MAN- I cant say thank you enough,your time to listen to the track and see potential in it is overwhelming ,i tried my best to bring it out.i love looper man and music in general for the effect it had on the original producer and me too stemming to all the people listening being moved by it.
lol,the lyricism was just weird for me but..that was the whole point, like i said, i will do a proper recording for it in some weeks,im sure the final professional mix of vocals on this amazing track will be breath taking *watch this space*
Greetings. I had a look at your Bandcamp page and now I have seen what you look like! And you bass guitar. Unless perhaps it's not you and you instead hired a professional "bass guitar model" for publicity shots.
I'm not that keen on the first bit of wah playing. Not sure why - maybe just too much wah in there. I use it quite often as well though sometimes I don't like the sound of it in my tracks but the playing was good (and I couldn't remember how to replay it) so I kept it anyway.
Vocals are clearly the star here. She does have a good tone to her voice. Maybe too much reverb on the vocals though it's not really a big problem.
Your usual good bass sound and playing. And no doubt Rhodes too.
I definitely don't hear this as being blues. More sort of easy listening pop-funk-rock.
You're good at composing around vocals nd you usually make the vocal the main thing and just play complementary parts underneath. As well as having a few guitar breaks, as you do here.
As I've said many times on this site, I generally dislike fadeout enddings but this one is pretty good. Probably because it's quite a long fade so seems to make sense.
Good luck with your album. Have you had many downloads/feedback yet? I guess not many people know that it exists...
Hi MrNomad,
Thanks for taking the time to comment this and to check-out the bandcamp page.
And yes: you have now seen my face. I didn't invested the money to hire a professional model.
"Your usual good bass sound and playing"
Wow! You know how much I appreciate and respect your work, so I will store this sentence for the "bad days" and I will read it to improve my morale.
"I definitely don't hear this as being blues"
I usually don't spend too much time trying to figure out which genre my tracks are.
I am sorry (not too much indeed) for the trouble I cause to the occasional listeners.
"I generally dislike fadeout endings but this one is pretty good"
I also don't like fade-outs but in this case it seemed the most natural way of ending the whole.
Glad it doesn't sound too bad.
"Have you had many downloads/feedback yet?"
I think I still have zero downloads on the album, but I am not expecting much anyway: I think bandcamp gives a max of 200 free downloads (per month?) for free music. I am sure that this will be more than enough for my music.
Now... you *must* feel the urge to put your music on bandcamp as well: you are the one who planted this idea in my brain (you mentioned it in one of your comments I think).
So, hurry up with this jazz-metal thing and then start working on putting together your songs in an album ... possibly more than one.
I am not sure how "evil" bandcamp is, but the platform seems to be well done.
Thanks again for the kind comment.
Ciao, Domenico
UPDATE: you made me curious and I had to check the bandcamp stats... still zero downloads and only 9 "partial" plays. This is a nice feature: bandcamp tells you how many people listened to the track in its entirety. (nobody did in my case)
I started up a forum thread about favourite ever tracks on Looperman and ShortBusMusic chose this very track as one of his favourites. I thought you might like to know.
You should check the thread out and also contribute (if you're still active here).
Anyway, this is a bit bright and light for me but is very well done. Sounds very acoustic and natural. Like someone playing happily by a river in the woods on a sunny day. Closeness of the vocals make it very intimate. I can't fault the smooth vocals and the guitar playing is precise and well recorded.
No real criticisms from me so congratulations on this happy little song. It would be very suitable for soundtracks in a lot of TV and film productions.
Don't be surprised that I like some of your tracks. There's a load of weird noise stuff you also do that I barely consider music - only in the most avant garde sense. That's the kind of thing I'll probably never be into. But I don't bother telling you that in comment form on those tracks. Don't really know what the point would be.
But I'm a sucker for a cool groove and this and Nitr8 etc are great examples. This is perhaps better than Nitr8 and I also enjoyed that 3 loop track you recently did featuring a touch of slide guitar. Basically, I like the ones I comment on (no surprises there).
I have also meant to ask for a while if you have a Nitr8 remix favourite (and are prepared to publicly say) . I think the best, by far, is the spaghetti western version by theHumps.
I have actually read that stupid Blatant Melody thread, in which 40A so successfully demonstrates how obnoxious and mostly unashamedly arrogant he is. What a sad narcissist (and regular forum troll). I totally agree with you that those two loops are very different. So, the rest of the thread is basically a waste of time. I listened to each of them many times and could only hear a slight similarity (but far more differences). There are thousands and thousands of riffs and loops that sound way more similar. And 40A's "within 8 hours" dumb point is irrelevant, even though there are events in the world that human beings refer to as "coincidences". And there are regularly ones far more amazing and baffling than two people uploading similar loops to the same website within a few hours of each other.
So, no, I certainly don't think you rip off Hot Chip. I don't really try to play like anyone else at all but I'm sure I must have riffs that have been played exactly that way before, perhaps even at the same tempo, on the same instrument etc. I sometimes worry about how the hell I'm going to come up with interesting new melodies and riffs in old age.
I think you're saying that you got really angry on Facebook and then went and recorded the Lovin It vocals. Fair enough.
Probably less commercial value to this if you're giving it away for free but I think you get my point.
If you release the stems for people, you'll get at least 15 remixes.
Hey, thank you for the continued conversation! I always appreciate when people are willing to discuss things openly. You are right about the weird noise stuff, but at the same time, most of my really weird noise stuff never sees the light of day any more.
We differ when it comes to commenting tracks in a way. I comment on almost every song I hear, whether I think it's great or not. Usually I will try to find at least one thing about the song that I like, and let them know. Then I can feel free to give them suggestions or criticism. Just kind of how I was taught to criticize I guess.
To have you say this may be better than "nightr8" is pleasing to hear, as I could really take or leave that song now. As far as picking a favorite, it is very hard for me, and wasn't really the intention for the remix opportunity. Without actually going back to listen to them all, the ones that come to mind instantly are ValveDriver's mashup with my song "Skim" as well as ShemZee's cover version. Never had anyone actually do a cover of one of my songs, so it made me happy! Overall, I am not happy with the modern rubbish sounds I used in the song, so it makes sense that I would enjoy the versions that relied less on those.
Totally agree with you regarding the "coincidences." Things happen every day which are more shockingly related or synchronous. It's nice to hear your views on that thread.
I don't think you have accused me of ripping off anyone else either, so no worries there. I just used it as an example. I hear what you mean about being strapped for new riffs in old age too. I guess I rely more heavily on sounds as opposed to riffs, so finding new ways to make sounds is my fall back plan.
When I got angry on facebook, I went and did several takes on the vocals... each take, my voice degraded even further. I used the results as a stepping stone for singing it how I wanted the next day. A sip of vodka soothed the throat.
I guess it would be cool to hear remixes of this, but I don't know if I'll do that. I don't want another nightr8 on my hands right now. Any way, this song is really short on faves and likes both here and soundcloud.
Hi. I've commented a reasonable amount on your acoustic tracks but not heard so much of the rocking stuff.
This sounds very good, even though I'm not particularly into it. The vocals are excellent. I don't love them but they're perfect for this style. Right up there with a lot of very commercial, big-selling music.
I can go into more detail if you like regarding the other instruments but just wanted to say for now that the vocals really stand out. This kind of music is all about making them stand out and be catchy so you have a definite success there.
Oh, and EQing the vocals probably hasn't removed any unique quality. They sound good but also quite generic, which is partly what makes them good (in commercial terms).
Oh and I like the delivery of the line "If I'm honest with myself" - probably the delivery of "honest" in particular.
Ah - one criticism. Vocal delivery of the "you" in "without you" and "day" in "another day" I do not like.
Haha, I agree with you on your vocal critique :P I sing that part (I didn't want to as I feel my voice doesnt exactly capture the energy my brother does) and I did it against my will :P I appreciate the honesty Static, and thanks for listening and offering your opinions on my music. It really means a lot.
This is good stuff. I think the money (cash register?) sample is cool and gives the whole thing an interesting feel. And some of the bits of delay on it help as well.
Lots of melody and good chill here. Also quite a bit of space, at times, to allow the instruments and sounds to breathe. And then you return with tight beats - EazyBeatz.
The dog sample is also good.
0:48 good pitch bent strings.
Good piano tone. Simple notes that are on the minor side of things but not depressing. Kind of sad beautiful.
It's not my favourite ever piece of music (not sure what is) but I don't really have any criticisms or suggestions, otherwise I would offer them. It's a good mix and I feel I can hear all the sounds quite clearly.
Thank you , sorry for the late response. Your well thought input means a lot to me. I see that you enjoyed that sound fx and I thank you for understanding it in the first place. Sorry to say but I took it off due to many preferring it that way. still pretty much sounds the same tho. Thanks again for listening . Hope all is well. :) -EazyBeatz
Yo again. One thing that's happening to this mister is that he has just bought an electric cello. Not an instrument I've ever played before but I have wanted to expand my playing for a while and have always wanted a fretless instrument. Not got a bow yet so just plucking for now though fear I'm playing it too much like a bass or guitar. When I put it through my regular heavy distortion setting, it sounds exactly the same to me as my guitar, which is kind of a bit disappointing. Was hoping it would be different.
Anyway, I guess I'll get better at it and getting good at bowing should help differentiate it from guitar/bass playing.
I was wrong about Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun. It's on the fantastic One Of These Days that Gilmour plays awesome pedal steel. STCFTHOTS is not in that concert but I did also watch it in their Pompeii gig. I could never forget the title but had forgotten the piece of music.
I hope you're familiar with the rather interesting hypnotic bass and drums stoner duo Om as STCFTHOTS is pretty much the blueprint for their style. Check that band out if you don't know them. I hope you also gave another recommendation of mine from ages a listen - Genghis Tron. Easily my favourite most extreme band of all time. I don't listen to much extreme screaming music but these guys make a true artform of it. Just listen to their Board Up The House album and be blown away.
Yes, I've now found the version of this track featuring Tumbleweed. No idea why I couldn't find it before. Not looking hard enough, I guess. Must remember to comment.
I've heard you say before that you're somewhat influenced by the seasons and chill more during the winter. I'm pretty sure that no weather or anything else going on in the world or my life has any bearing whatsoever on my music making. That's because I do such far out stuff that I think I get transported to somewhere completely removed from my life and surroundings so I just shut everything out and trip out into other worlds inside my imagination. And then try to create them in nice track bro form.
Yes, get yourself a guit fiddle. Well, if that's what you're comfortable with. Go with a triangle or accordion if they speak more to your soul and feel better to play. After all, a triangle is pretty damn metal, right? Solid piece of metal there.
Finally, I have a new track, featuring shitloads of vocals (not mine) and variety plus some definite badassery, especially in the second half (eg the d'n'b). It's 17.5 mins long so strap in, stuck up on food, drugs, alcohol and maybe a pillow for the long haul psychedelic extravaganza. Made 4 years ago but recently updated and improved. Something quite different for me.
Ah yes - Laibach. That's one of the groups I was thinking of but I couldn't remember their name.
Good to hear the apocalypse won't be happening in 2015. Let's put it off until at least 2016. I've actually done a huge amount of music work in the last two years. I've made a whole long album in just the last two months.
"i tryed to sound so much german that i could"
Yes, you did perfectly! Could not be more German.
Waiting two minutes for the vocal works fine because your ambient vibe and simple groove is easy to listen to and, while you're listening, it sounds like it's probably going to be an instrumental anyway so I'm not waiting for and expecting a vocal (as with a rock 'n' roll song).
I think what I wrote before was not clear. I wasn't saying that I would play this track for other people. What I meant was that I would not mind if I went round someone's house and they played this track, perhaps while we were talking or something. There's a lot of music that I choose not to listen to but son't mind hearing eg at someone's house or at a club or in a shop etc.
Best of luck with any more mixing and mastering. The track doesn't sound like it needs much more work.
From an English perspective (mine) this is so very, very German. That may sound extremely obvious as you're singing in German but I'm also talking about the music. Very minimalist and perhaps like some of the German bands from the 70s/80s who I don't listen to eg Amon Duul, Tangerine Dream. I'm not quite sure as I don't listen to those sorts of groups.
It's a cool, simple groove. Not really that dark - just melancholy. All the synth work sounds good and I like how you wait 2 mins to bring in the vocal. It's really very chilled out.
I wouldn't choose to llisten to this at home but would be happy for someone else to put it on. Also good soundtrack music. And it's well produced so congratulations again.
Finally, is it really the acpocalypse in 2015? If so, I better finish some of my many albums as that will probably be quite difficult in a post-apocalyptic world (maybe no electricity).
Ok, first - NO, the apocalypse will not come 2015! :) I´m sure. But if it brings you to work more on finishing music things ..... :)
I do this apocalypse thing since 1985/86 and there are a few difrent versions out - The first version was just - Apocalypse - all others get a year in the name, the year when i made it.....
This "german" thing is intresting, cause when i listen to this version, i have more stuff from the 80´s in mind like Laibach and so but maybe the influens of this "older" stuff is sooooo big :) but i am not a real big fan of them (to slowly for me when i was young). That a german voice sounds german, ok sure and in this special case i tryed to sound so much german that i could. So you got that point and thats cool! Same with this "dark" thing, i just wrote - it is a bit dark .... a (deep) melancholic feeling goes for the most into the "dark" direction .....
I didn´t go for this groove in the beginning but when i found that sound while playing with the vst, i know i had to use it. Sometimes (thats my opinion) music needs some time to come to the point where the vocals should start. And here the music just needs this 2 minutes to go there.
Nice to hear that you would play this for other people but you should maybe wait a little with that, cause this version isnt mixed and masterd realy. And i think i should do that, not for this comp thing but just for that track himself.
So thanks again for all the time you spend, until now, with listen to my music and all the friendly things and opinions you always write.
I have no idea what 'dubstairs' is. No doubt just your little dubstep joke, which I like. Probably more than I like most dubstep, though I'm talking more about the type of harsh, growling dubstep people obsess over. You know the kind - no actual dub in there. Original dubstep, which is just a wobbling progression of dub, is actually pretty cool.
But this sort of unmusical, effects-obsessed, histrionic stuff that's always brickwall mastered I find pretty damn horrible.
You can hear some dubstep-style bass wobbling (LFO automation) in my track A Little Bit Of Infinity but it's a very musical piece rather than just someone wobbling away because they have no other, more musical elements to add.
Anyway, yes I can see the track was built around the bass. That's quite common and how I also often work. No, "cute" synth seems pretty good. But go ahead and modify it or switch it out for another if you think you can do better. If you think you can do better, you probably can.
Yes, sub time is good. I'd like to get more sub stuff into my music but it can be tricky. I think it might work best if you leave things sparser on top of the sub. So, maybe have sub and then higher frequency stuff so not much midrange. Just a theory - I'm not a technical sound guy whatsoever.
I'd prefer to hear you do something with fat grooves that isn't just a club track (I know you can). I tend to find that more musical and interesting. Club tracks have to be very good for me not to be bored. I wasn't bored with this one (I prefer Klokwerk) but I'd probably rather the elements were used as a fat groove 80-110 BPM thing. Just my preference.
Used to smoke weed but gave up. Did nothing for creativity, though there were some good laughs. No need for drugs for imagination as that comes easily. Crazy, sometimes amusing ideas are one of my few talents. I like to think I get some of that imagination into my music (not one of my natural talents).
I came up with this logically, thinking about Jeff's hands and if the problem were more extreme. I was trying to think of an amusing response to you telling me about it and then decided it could be a superpower, if harnessed. Could be used for good but more likely bad. Good guys don't go around corroding stuff with oily skin. None that I know.
I'm not knocking Jeff as I don't know him and am unlikely to. In terms of character back story, I'm a failed musician too ie entirely outside the music industry.
Don't like The Rustition. Rusting stuff isn't badass and it'll take a while to obliterate Nashville waiting for it to rust. Maybe you can do better though Corroder or Corrosive are perhaps decent enough.
Came up with Sliderman a few years ago.He suits a music-related plot. Interesting how much energy I sometimes put into the slide. Sometimes the whole arm but often seemingly more of the body when getting really intense.
I have another superhero called Frisbee Boy (I'm a big fan of the frisbee). He chucks a variety of frisbees, with incredible accuracy. They're also his shield (like Captain America) and vehicle though I'm not sure how you would throw one and then get on it! And you can't throw it if you're sitting on it. Need some special effects movie physics there.
What would your superhero be? Bass Boy? Or Bass Bastard if he's a supervillain. If Sliderman and Bass Boy team up with a drum-related superhero, they could have a kickass superhero band. Think of the killer riffage the bad guys would have to contend with! Supervillains getting cymbals smashed over their heards and being double kick drummed to death. Their vehicle would be drum-propelled, with the drummer smashing away at impossible speeds. Maybe he would have 6 retractable arms. Retractable so he doesn't look like a freak all the time.
The reverse cymbal Kryptonite thing isn't quite accurate. I do sometimes like a reverse cymbal and have used them most sparingly over the years. You often use them in your tracks, but tastefully, as opposed to someone like Crucethus, who has ruined tracks (for me) with ridiculous overuse. Some are better than others but it's still a bit of a gimmick. When it gets repeated and repeated (especially the exact same way) it loses the element of surprise it perhaps first had.
Maybe Ewan MacGregor will play you in the film though he's generally in pretty poor films. This one will be awesome so maybe his first good one since Trainspotting or Shallow Grave.
on The Wang Of Disdain by Evisma
I thought you might get a kick out of "Consider yourself greeted". Has an appealing simplicity and a bit of attitude. I also run out of new greetings though I do have a few stored up (I also easily forget them). It's my difficult challenge to come up with a new one every time for you. "A hail of hermaphroditic helloes" I've already used but maybe I'll repeat it in a year or so when I've really run out and seemingly been through all the at least half sensible possibilities.
Your process with the weird little squealing sound reminds me of my various processing techiques. I'll chop up, reorder, layer and add effects to any of my playing in order to make more of it. Would be good to hear more of that sort of thing from you as it's a real track highlight here.
I can see why you're amused by me not liking your first ever bent note (note the note, the riff as a whole). I imagine my first recorded bent note was in my first recording (bass and guitar). I sometimes wonder how you don't bend the strings. If I'm letting a note hang, I'll probably just give it a little wiggle, for added emphasis. I'm thinking you must have to consciously stop yourself from doing this as it couldn't be more natural to me. Or we've got a very different mental approach to playing the strings. Yours may well be more precise and regimented, mine much more ramshackle and lazy. Laissez-faire, you might say. If you get a hanging bend just right with the groove, it can be way better than any new note you might play.
I too have tone issues with this track, that's why it's still a Not Bader.
I don't completely reject fade-out endings though I rarely hear a good one on here. Has to be done skilfully, not just giving the feeling that someone's turning the volume control down over 5-10 secs.
Good to hear you use 'cop out'. We also sometimes say 'cop off' (with), which means something along the lines of kiss/have sex with (degree is vague). So, perhaps your equivalent of 'make out', which we never, ever say. Doesn't exist in UK and I probably only know about it from US TV and movies.
If I do make it to Florida for the mic pickup, I will be looking spic and span in a fine suit, bow tie and bowler hat. My paddling butler will indeed be quite unkempt. I will constantly have to spray him with various pleasant smelling things just to give my nose some peace. As I misplaced the mic when moving into the sheds in October, I haven't played or recorded any banj in ages. Same goes for my other better-sounding but harder to play resonator guitar. Would like to record them again.
P.S. Cello still going very badly. Still no bow, plucked recordings don't sound good. May have been wrong purchase though I hope not and will just have to stick at it.
This made me laugh actually really hard. That's as close as I can get to an "LOL", which I hate with a passion. Really, I hold issue with nearly all abbreviation used unless it's something like IBM, FBI, SETI, DIY, and GFY,.... though I've admittedly used the last one.
But LOL, IDK, HMU, LMK, and any little picture drawn using brackets, dashes and other keyboard tom-foolery is a sign of someone I really don't want to know.
" Cello still going very badly. Still no bow, plucked recordings don't sound good. May have been wrong purchase though I hope not and will just have to stick at it."
I have full faith in you. How does it sound through your octave pedal? Can your octave pedal go up an octave or two, or just down? Would like to hear you pluck it, heavily processed in quarter notes like the kick in the intro to Sabbath's "Iron Man", by itself for an intro to a track. A fast and strong modulation with a little pre distortion, and up a few octaves. But, I'm sure you have done much experimentation and know already what things will sound like ass.
Best of luck, and I feel that no instrument purchase is a bad one, unless it's the instrument itself that sounds bad/cheap.
Hope that mic turned up. I checked my gig-bag, wasn't in there either. Sorry. I'll ask Clint the Klepto, but he always says he don't know shit!
Evan
on Come As You Are - Acoustic Cover by BradoSanz
I've heard this a few times and also watched the video, which I thought was well done.
When I first saw the track title, I thought it was going to be a cover of the Nirvana classic. Sadly not as that's a much better song. This certainly isn't my kind of genre of song but it's all well done, as always. I'll just say some more for now about the video, which is well made.
It's got a real simplicity to it, which is all it needs. I think people into this kind of music want to see the people making it so you deliver on that front. The beach/water backdrop provides a decent contrast from the studio and the edits are fine. Camera quality is good. There's nothing particularly interesting happening or any sort of narrative but that doesn't matter. That takes a lot more work, time, planning and probably expense.
I'd say the video is pretty much good enough for commercial release. But, in the world of Youtube, it already has been released so it's not like you need it to be on MTV (yes, I know they don't really do many music videos anymore) for anyone to see it.
Finally, well done on doing this whole song and video so quickly.
Good luck to you and your brother.
ER
on The Wang Of Disdain by Evisma
Nice to see a couple of other people have felt sufficiently moved to pass comment on your wang. The Prick Of Despair is a fun title and a suitable B-side for this track (if such things still existed).
Anyway: you have nicened this track up bro though it still doesn't make your badass folder.
Can't really notice the lead line being much different. Probably just thicker, as you say.
1:35 that is a fucking killer, weird little squealing sound. Brought in with a dramatic fill and then continued lots later. Cool effect. Getting a bit creaturey (?) there. Sort of thing I might do. But I haven't and you have.
2:24 not so keen on that lead line. But it's only short so not to worry (but brought back later). Maybe just too forced a melody or something. Not bad, just something slightly off about it.
I can't find that much else to say about the second half. It's decent, just doesn't really grab me. Lots of sounds I've heard from you before and just the one cool, new one.
3:50 sparser ending sounds good but fadeout is still a bit of a cop out. Hope you have that term in Yankland. Nothing to do with cops.
Later, wang hater...
P.S.
As to an unanswered question from elsewhere: no shit-shifting injuries yet but lots more shit to shift. Going OK and I'm taking it slow. As long as I've got somewhere half decent to sleep and my music gear all/mostly set up (where the hell has my microphone gone?) then I'm happy.
Your best opening ever. Run out of greetings sometimes, especially when doing 11 comment replies in a row.
"Can't really notice the lead line being much different. Probably just thicker, as you say."
Yeah, I played over it a few times with different distortion settings and blended them. Problem is, I have only solid-state amps, and no real way to get a good guitar lead tone that is distorted. Sounds like a weird, wonky synth coming from my pedal. That pedal is awesome, but it really has only one way to distort a signal. Fine for most bass stuff, but not guitar. I've been looking into preamps and tube amps.
"weird little squealing sound"
That is a single played note that slides down from 12 to 0. Chopped it and reversed it, ran it through amp sim software with a delay. I liked it. It's a single slide, but reversed delay is what makes it Neat-O!
"2:24 not so keen on that lead line."
This cracked me up. It's cool if you don't like it, but it's the VERY FIRST time I did a bend on a track. Last note of that line bends. The line may get replaced. Had a lot of tone issues with this track, and still do. Most of it is overdone.
Yes, we "Yanklanders" say "cop-out". I know you reject fade-outs as credible endings for tracks. I do like the removal of parts until it's down to something you never knew was there.
"where the hell has my microphone gone?"
Wanna borrow mine? Hop in your kayak and head west. I'll be waiting near Florida, balancing on a lone bouey, trying like hell to keep the mic dry. You'll have to announce yourself upon arrival, as I have no idea what you look like and will not recognize you, and you will look very unkempt. Paddling the Atlantic would make for some pretty righteous pits. And you can just paddle that shit back to me when you're done with it, as well. Mail is so lazy.
Hope all is well.
Evan
on Garden by EtherBlu
I play some deep, far out stuff but I still quite often play something quite cheesy. I have no definite idea why that is. Certainly not my intent. Sometimes I go through and "de-cheesify" tracks, especially when it comes to slightly annoying synth sounds.
Anyway: more detail.
0:08 those first notes work well for me. Then other tinkly creeping notes a bit later and some little hints of percussion.
I think it's that marimba on 0:26 that says "playful, gentle doggy music".
And then you build your percussion. Very dry (ie lacking reverb) so close and sort of warm, perhaps a bit like puppies. You don't want to make it a space puppies track, right? I probably would have but then that's just the kind of music I make.
0:51 guitarey sort of synth instrument is pretty decent and you've also got some kettle drum rolls in there, which I like. Beat is solid and grooving now.
1:09 guitar is a surprise. Might seem a little out of place but it's playing good notes so no problem there. Rather: an interesting brief, little flavour.
Marimba sits in there all the time, almost as a bass line. Return of keyboard guitarey instrument theme towards the end and bit of strings and then a decaying end note which has been cut off of a bit too soon. Just need a few seconds more on that.
How's that for detail?
And yes, i agree that we aren't always successful to translate our feelings into music. But sometime's we do get lucky. About cheesiness in music, sometimes its the need of the song and sometimes, its just the our perception.
About your in depth review, I wanted to keep the beginning as soft & as smooth as possible, So i experimented with staccato notes on flute, and it gave me what i wanted.
Yes, i did listen to some of the references on Animal Planet and Marimba was the most common instrument used for the lead. So i rejected some 5-6 leads myself which i was randomly playing on some major chords and then i finally got settled on this.
I kept the percussions dry for just one pure reason, to give the live feeling to the song. I wanted to give this song an Epic feeling but still keeping it soft.
Marimba was doing my job wherever the lead was concerned, but then i felt this track needed some instrument that can brighten up the track a little. Hence, guitar is introduced here.
I felt by keeping the marimba in the background, the song won't lose it's feel, so here it worked as a bass line too.
About the end, i totally agree with you i should have stretched it a little i feel now.
Thanks again for that great review brother. look forward to such reviews in the near future too.
Best,
-EB
on The Wang Of Disdain by Evisma
Do you have disdain for your wang? Or does someone else? Or is it someone's else wang you have disdain for? Perhaps the school bully who used to slap you around the face with his as an oh-so-funny prank.
Maybe you have disdain for a Chinese dude you know called Wang. Quite a common Chinese name, meaning that there are millions of walking, talking wangs in this world.
Anyway, cool intro with some reverse elements and then a good groove at 0:10, in which your drums sound good. Cool bass tone too.
0:19 lead I find way too light and "airy". Just a bit weak, sound-wise. Guess that's guitar. Sounds a little like a synth or violin, like maybe it has a slow attack. A different lead sound would make it much better.
1:36 bongo-style drum fill is good and then more bongoey beats.
2:05 some of the key changes make me think of something like the Knightrider theme from the 80s. Bet you used to watch that show. The Hoff's second most famous role, after Baywatch. But he's a lot better known in Germany for his pop music. Explain that!
Definitely impressed with the drum programming here. Busy and inventive and some cool fills. No criticism there. Better guitar sounds would help a lot.
Overall: I'm putting this in my Evisma Not Bad, Could Be Better folder. Improvements could make it migrate into my Evisma Badass folder.
* I guess a hermaphroditic hello would be one combining male and female tones in one. So, a little like Tuvan throat singing, in which they somehow manage to layer two different tones at the same time. An incredible sound, in case you've never heard it. My favourite group who do that are called Huun Huur Tu and they're amazing singers.
The Wang Of Disdain is an odd name. Came to me while driving. I think something on the radio rhymed and I started playing with the rhythmic syllable scheme in my head.
I went in and did a bit of layering on the lead line. Not nearly as light as before. May be good, may be bad.
I also added a second half. Different feel that is kind of hard to describe,... but I dig it.
No, never got into any Hasselhoff. Most of my childhood was spent on a bmx style bike, just getting away from the house. Watched more movies than shows. Never seen Baywatch, though it was big here when I was around ten or so. Never really cared. Gravitated towards comedies and horrors.
I've seen Tuvan throat singing, but just one old guy who was producing some crazy harmonics with a prolonged grunt and some nasal whistling. Still neat.
Take care.
Evan
on Zukal demo version by GoldenOokami
This is good though I appreciate that it's very much a work in progress. Adding more elements (and length) should indeed help.
This is fairly skilfully put together and definitely the basis for some proper funk.
Jazz guitar keyboard playing is good and sets the tone nicely. Then the first problem: that hat stands out as having the wrong sort of sound (too dry, needs reverb) and the wrong timbre. I know there's no "wrong" in music, I'm just saying how I feel. I have loads of good drum sounds but in some tracks they do feel wrong. Might also have groove not quite right. Play around with some different quantise settings.
Brass blasts are decent. Could be a better sampled sound but I guess it's the best you have. I hardly have any decent brass sampled instruments. They generally don't sound good played in a regular way so I have to use them in a different way ie add loads of delay or whatever.
0:55 first cool brass fill. Makes me think not of funk but some other genre. More jazz or ska or something similar.
I hope these thoughts help just a little bit.
Good luck with it as it's definitely worth continuing with.
~GO
on Untitled Chill Tropical Track-NEEDS VOCALS by 15ludwicke
Damn, 10 hours a day is a lot. I'm not sure even I do that (when I have that many hours in a day spare) and I'm quite the music and music making obsessive.
Anyway, this is good but I don't love it. But I could come to love it if there were some really fine vocals added. A good song, basically. It sounds like there's lots of space left for vocals. However, if you never get them I'd say you might need to add some more elements or shorten the track to keep my interest.
You pan pipe instrument again, as in another of your tropical chill tracks. At many points I like it, at others I don't. Maybe it plays a little too often. I'm not quite sure.
This is actually really well made, with a very bright and easy listening sound. Fine mix and I'm not sure I can criticise any of it. There's a lot of good space in the whole track, which allows all the elements to breathe.
Hope you get those fine vocals.
Yeah well I'm on spring break so I can afford to spend that much time sitting there making music haha. But thank you for your compliments and criticisms, I like that you are very honest and straightforward in your comments, thats what helps make people better. I do have a female vocalist that is providing some really good vocals for the track and I am very excited to be working with her. I'm going to be posting the song again with vocals soon so be sure to check it out. I hope you like it!
Thanks,
Rico L.
on GUIT ACT HIP HOP BEAT AND NICE VIOLONS by jacquesdemers
I remember you from many months ago.
I'm not really hearing any hip hop in this. Maybe just a little.
Instead, I hear what could be a hit pop song, if you get some good vocals. Simple strummed guitar is well recorded and it has quite an uplifting feel so perfect for an emotional ballad to be played in stadiums all round the world.
Strings help give it that uplifting feel. They get stronger, with more melodies, towards the end (from 3:21).
It's the sort of thing I've heard many, many times before but it's well done and I can't really criticise anything or suggest a different way of doing things as it's quite a standard type of song composition.
Congratulations...
on Garden by EtherBlu
Intro is very peaceful and the whole thing is really quite uplfiting. Maybe could be used for a puppy soundtrack? Lots of other soundtracks too as this has some class and elegance to it.
It's very easy listening but not of the cheesy variety.
So, more another time. Until then - big congrats.
Thank you very much for your kind words. Pure love is devoid of cheesiness. isn't it? Will be eagerly looking forward to your detailed review and m really glad you liked it.
-EB
on All the Hell I Have Caused ft Antranita by mrwolf14
Yes, store that bass praising sentence away if you like. I think I generally applaud your bass playing. My main criticism of it would be that you seem not to come up with that many memorable "hooks" or lines that I can remember after listening to the track. It's usually creative playing around the chord sequence without hitting on a simple, distinctive riff. Or maybe you do have some distinctive riffs but bury them in the mix (or just play them once). I'm not sure.
I like to do all sorts of playing around a chord sequence but am always looking for the best, coolest parts that I can bring out and emphasise. I do a lot of chopping up and moving around of my recorded audio parts. My guess would be that you don't. So, when I hear your bass playing for two minutes, that's probably what you played, without any edits. But I could be wrong.
I'm sure I've said to you before that I mostly make music by jamming around an 8 or 16 bar loop for a good few minutes (my record is a 17 minute take; I did an 11 minute one recently on guitar for my track Emperor Tritone), trying out a few different pre-prepared ideas and then, once I think I've played them well enough a few times, I do whatever come to mind - usually something completely unpredictable. That's how I sometimes get some of my strangest and most interesting stuff. And then I spend ages carefully taking the best bits and joining sections together. Real cheating compared with someone who really knows what they're doing and just plays it all in one go, with no edits.
I have no idea how many people work the way I do but maybe you could try out my technique and see if you come up with some unusual, unexpected things.
I still don't quite understand why people take loops of their music and give them away for free on Looperman (if they're good, why not use them yourself) but if I wanted to, I could easily make thousands and thousands of good loops.
Sorry to hear no one is even fully playing your tracks on Bandcamp. Perhaps I slightly worry that if I put stuff up for download, very few people will care about it so why bother. I know that's quite a defeatist attitude but I am a bit like that in general. I guess I just have higher ambitions for my music but these days making recorded music seems to be no big deal and nothing special or even interesting to most people. So, it's hard to get any interest from people, even if you're good. We can blame cheap music technology for all of this. But, without it, I could not do what I do.
Sorry for no other comment on your track but I thought you might be interested in a few words about other music-related things.
Wishing you well,
Mr Nomad
Thanks for the interesting comment... lots of points worth discussing.
"It's usually creative playing around the chord sequence without hitting on a simple, distinctive riff"
You are right, this is what I do on most the stuff I have uploaded here. The main reason is on this type of music (chill-out-ish/jazzy-ish) I see the bass more as an "harmonic" than a "melodic" instrument. Of course, this is my vision.
I prefer to let the "theme" be played by other instruments.
And you are also right on the working approach I used: all the bass lines are done in one take (or few takes joined together). Why? Not sure ... I think it has a lot to do with the effect I wanted to achieve.
Was it good? don't know... but I wanted to try it.
And this was also the reason for me to "release" these 14 tracks as an album: I wanted to "close" this phase and move to something different.
As soon as I find some time, I will start experimenting with your approach: it sounds really intriguing.
"I still don't quite understand why people take loops of their music and give them away for free on Looperman"
In my case, I have uploaded only few loops but I hope I will upload more in the future.
The main reason for giving them away for free is that I don't know how to use them.
So, either they are not "good enough" (too bad for the people downloading then) or just I have not seen their potential (and this what I hope).
"Sorry to hear no one is even fully playing your tracks on Bandcamp"
Thanks, but it is no big deal to me: I know that nowadays it is very hard to attract people's interest.
Commercial music must be "easy": the song has less than 10 seconds to hook the listener. Sad.
And to make things worse, I have made the music downloadable only as a "full album".
This is because I believe that this music works as a "flow" ... at least this is how I have seen it.
This reflects also my way of listening to music. And it may be one of the reasons why your tracks resonate so well to me: each of your tracks is a kind of "mini-album" on its own.
"We can blame cheap music technology"
No we will not.
As you write, it is simply wonderful to have access to all these toys for little money.
I got Logic Pro for less than 200euro ... I bought a very good audio interface for 350euro ... and the quality of these stuff is incredible!
I still remember the "good old days" when I started using Cubase on a 486 PC, with a crappy sound-blaster: the audio card was not able to work in "duplex". So I used a cassette recorder for the takes while listening to the existing tracks on the pc and then I acquired the take in a second step. Awful!
OK... I will now stop with this "flow of memories".
Thanks again for your words.
Sincerely yours,
Domenico
on Xyilent - Dreaming by XyIlent
No, you certainly don't want this to feel too fast. That's why I just suggested raising the tempo by about 5 BPM. Or you could even automate it so that the whole track subtly speeds up and/or slows down. No tempo drag in the second half so I'd suggest just trying out my suggestions on the first half.
Or, keep the same tempo but do some other things with the drums to give the illusion of it being a bit faster. So, one thing that can work nicely is to make the hats faster/busier, perhaps keeping the rest of the drums just as they are.
Tempo and feel of the track are interesting things and I have tracks at the same tempo that feel like they're very different tempos. For instance, two tracks made on the same timeline sound perhaps 10-15 BPM apart but are the same tempo. One track (Random Acts Of Human Kindness) uses a lazy shuffle blues groove, making it seem much slower than the tighter hip hop type of groove used in the other track (The Shit).
Yes, I saw Danke and Epic's comments and didn't think there was anything lacking in the second half so I guess you've done a good job adding a bit more activity (only a guess because I haven't heard the earlier version).
You can definitely do lots more good chillout music.
You don't want to leave it at only one classy chillout track...
The making the hats a bit busier in the 1st half sounds like the best option, i always have trouble with automating the bpm, for me it complicates the track.
Yeah i remember 'Random Acts Of Human Kindness' awesome track :) not to familiar with 'The Shit' haha will have to give that one a listen.. awesome title by the way ;) haha
Yeah i changed alot and added alot after danke's comment, mostly in the second half just doing what you've been saying actually, and adding more percussion and making it feel more busy :), i just need to find that middle ground for the first half that makes it not as busy as the second half but not as slow as it is.
"You can definitely do lots more good chillout music.
You don't want to leave it at only one classy chillout track..."
i dont plan too haha, ill do definitely more chillout/mellow stuff.
already got the beginnings of another chillout track :D
on Xyilent - Dreaming by XyIlent
This is good though my first feeling is that it's a bit slow. The beat seems to drag a bit. As it's all synth stuff, I'm guessing you could just up the BPM, say by about 5 BPM or so. Try it out.
Actually 2:04 it doesn't seem to drag as much though it does in the first half. Just a minor criticism.
Otherwise, it's a good collection of synth sounds with an uplifting, positive vibe but not cheesy.
Around 2:18 or so the high wailing lead is excellent. Pulling the emotions this way and that, things building nice. Bit of a soaring guitar lead feel in there.
Piano sound has a warm tone.
Good, clean mix and that second half rolls along really well, not getting boring. And then it comes to a nice conclusion, with some odd, reverbed squawking sound added as well (also in the first half, now I listen again).
Basically, it's good chillout music (elegant, as Crucethus said) but not the boring type that doesn't go anywhere or that is too polite and gentle.
A touch of class here so big congrats to you...
"it's a bit slow"
- Hmm. a raise in bpm could work but, i dont want it to feel too fast though.
When im working on it later ill work with the idea and see what happens :)
"the high wailing lead is excellent"
- honestly thats my favourite part haha, i was messing around with a bit of glide and once i had that down-glide at the end of the bar i was like "damn! yup thats going on the song!" haha
"Good, clean mix and that second half rolls along really well / with some odd, reverbed squawking"
- yeah after danke and Epic's comments i added some stuff to fill out that second half and.. yeah the weird squawking was one of those additions. It gives the track a bit of character i think haha or it makes it sound like ive got a Eagle trapped in my song.. either way im all for it haha
"Basically, it's good chillout music"
Really!? aww cool, like ive said ive never done this genre before so for people to be enjoying my first go at it is really cool.
"polite and gentle"
hmm... sounds like me hahaha XD
"A touch of class here so big congrats to you..."
Thanks Static, means alot you enjoyed.
on Despondent by EazyBeatz
It's really hard to know but I seem to be enjoying the track more now. I can't tell if removing those sound FX has helped that at all or perhaps you also tidied up a few other things and made things run a bit more smoothly.
The track now seems cleaner and less cluttered than before. I indeed had no problem with the sound FX but sometimes cleaner, sparser is better. That's something I struggle with a lot as I like to use a lot of sounds and keep things very busy most of the time. But I'm also good at peeling back the layers to create different moods for different sections so that's how I tend to do it rather than removing an element entirely from a track.
So, I guess I'm saying you could add the sound FX here and there rather than ditch it/them entirely.
Anyway, I don't have a lot more to add as I think I said most of it before. It's really a cool little track.
on Sun Petals by Evisma
First surprise is some early reggae-like little gentle staccato guit strums that appear at various later points.
Then a slightly different drum groove for you ( a good one) and then more familiar crash and low end bass thump at 0:23. Little dancing guitars on top. You play guitar in a slightly odd very lead gentle clean melodic way, which is quite a surprise. Didn't think you'd play it like that so much when you said you'd got your PRS so could get it in tracks regularly. And still no string bends. You may have the blues but you don't play them.
0:48 familiar type of bass riff but it's good so nice criticism there. Would like to have it in my music. Not to worry, I have many other types of basslines. I'd happily do your bass playing if I had your setup and could physically manage it but I don't and probably can't so too bad.
Toms there also good, providing contrast for when main hat-led beat kicks back in. You're varying the drums nicely in this. Much improvement from being the slave to loops I think you used to be. You've also got some effective delay on the snare in your very chilled next section 1:40. Delay is easily my favourite ever effect. Probably then distortion. Retriggering or tape stop/slowdown are also pretty badass.
I wasn't going to after the first listen but I think I'm going to go ahead and award you the coveted Nice Track Bro trophy. Cherish it dearly and polish it regularly. It is quite large and heavy but perhaps you could wear it triumphantly around your neck as jewellery as you go about your business in town. People are sure to show you more respect and awe.
Must go due to tiredness but I will return for more detail. Hope your trophy arrives via FedEx by then.
I bid you adieu.
Spring is indeed back, but not technically. I have a neighbor who's entire front lawn is packed of purple crocuses below the sod, so right before the grass comes out of dormancy, the grass lawn is completely hidden by a layer of bright purple densely packed flowers. Happens every year, and it's one of the things I always look forward to.
"You play guitar in a slightly odd very lead gentle clean melodic way, which is quite a surprise. Didn't think you'd play it like that so much when you said you'd got your PRS so could get it in tracks regularly."
I have to wonder how you though I would play it. I think, now that you described it like you did, that I play the guitar the same way I approach the bass. Really, I'd like to do heavier stuff than what I've been doing, but I'm just learning how to get sounds I like with the guitar. The guitar tone at the end of this track bugs me a bit. I'd like to be doing heavier stuff, but I've never written for guitar lines before, and never really played them.
"Retriggering or tape stop/slowdown are also pretty badass."
No clue how to do any of that. I have a multi-beat groove delay that is quite cool.
The trophy will go on the wall, next to the faded, holy, sleeveless, ragged Aenima tee shirt that saw the best times of my mid-to-late teens and early twenties. It's the black one with the "contortionist" image from the cd on the back. It hangs triumphantly on the music room wall, looking down on me, mocking my thinning hair and thickening torso.
Still taking bids on that audi?
Evan
on Hunting For Gatherers Feat Fya Philly by Philemonster1
It's cool to hear an Evisma tracks with vocals. Shows what his music could turn into if he had some vocalists (or just one).
Vocals work pretty well, even though they're not really my sort of style. You've definitely made a proper song out of it. Damn hard to say what sort of genre this is now. Certainly something creative and unusual.
The rising chorus type of section is pretty melodic and far out and really fits the music well. Good also that you got the title in the lyrics halfway through.
Yes, it's a bit squashed so a better version could certainly be made.
Overall: congrats on doing a good job on someone else's track and showing the potential any piece of instrumental music has to be turned into something different with the addition of vocals.
lol,the lyricism was just weird for me but..that was the whole point, like i said, i will do a proper recording for it in some weeks,im sure the final professional mix of vocals on this amazing track will be breath taking *watch this space*
on All the Hell I Have Caused ft Antranita by mrwolf14
I'm not that keen on the first bit of wah playing. Not sure why - maybe just too much wah in there. I use it quite often as well though sometimes I don't like the sound of it in my tracks but the playing was good (and I couldn't remember how to replay it) so I kept it anyway.
Vocals are clearly the star here. She does have a good tone to her voice. Maybe too much reverb on the vocals though it's not really a big problem.
Your usual good bass sound and playing. And no doubt Rhodes too.
I definitely don't hear this as being blues. More sort of easy listening pop-funk-rock.
You're good at composing around vocals nd you usually make the vocal the main thing and just play complementary parts underneath. As well as having a few guitar breaks, as you do here.
As I've said many times on this site, I generally dislike fadeout enddings but this one is pretty good. Probably because it's quite a long fade so seems to make sense.
Good luck with your album. Have you had many downloads/feedback yet? I guess not many people know that it exists...
Thanks for taking the time to comment this and to check-out the bandcamp page.
And yes: you have now seen my face. I didn't invested the money to hire a professional model.
"Your usual good bass sound and playing"
Wow! You know how much I appreciate and respect your work, so I will store this sentence for the "bad days" and I will read it to improve my morale.
"I definitely don't hear this as being blues"
I usually don't spend too much time trying to figure out which genre my tracks are.
I am sorry (not too much indeed) for the trouble I cause to the occasional listeners.
"I generally dislike fadeout endings but this one is pretty good"
I also don't like fade-outs but in this case it seemed the most natural way of ending the whole.
Glad it doesn't sound too bad.
"Have you had many downloads/feedback yet?"
I think I still have zero downloads on the album, but I am not expecting much anyway: I think bandcamp gives a max of 200 free downloads (per month?) for free music. I am sure that this will be more than enough for my music.
Now... you *must* feel the urge to put your music on bandcamp as well: you are the one who planted this idea in my brain (you mentioned it in one of your comments I think).
So, hurry up with this jazz-metal thing and then start working on putting together your songs in an album ... possibly more than one.
I am not sure how "evil" bandcamp is, but the platform seems to be well done.
Thanks again for the kind comment.
Ciao, Domenico
UPDATE: you made me curious and I had to check the bandcamp stats... still zero downloads and only 9 "partial" plays. This is a nice feature: bandcamp tells you how many people listened to the track in its entirety. (nobody did in my case)
on Shes Like a River by PapaChubbs
I started up a forum thread about favourite ever tracks on Looperman and ShortBusMusic chose this very track as one of his favourites. I thought you might like to know.
https://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/182742/what-are-your-favourite-tracks-on-looperman
You should check the thread out and also contribute (if you're still active here).
Anyway, this is a bit bright and light for me but is very well done. Sounds very acoustic and natural. Like someone playing happily by a river in the woods on a sunny day. Closeness of the vocals make it very intimate. I can't fault the smooth vocals and the guitar playing is precise and well recorded.
No real criticisms from me so congratulations on this happy little song. It would be very suitable for soundtracks in a lot of TV and film productions.
on Lovin It by Spivkurl
Don't be surprised that I like some of your tracks. There's a load of weird noise stuff you also do that I barely consider music - only in the most avant garde sense. That's the kind of thing I'll probably never be into. But I don't bother telling you that in comment form on those tracks. Don't really know what the point would be.
But I'm a sucker for a cool groove and this and Nitr8 etc are great examples. This is perhaps better than Nitr8 and I also enjoyed that 3 loop track you recently did featuring a touch of slide guitar. Basically, I like the ones I comment on (no surprises there).
I have also meant to ask for a while if you have a Nitr8 remix favourite (and are prepared to publicly say) . I think the best, by far, is the spaghetti western version by theHumps.
I have actually read that stupid Blatant Melody thread, in which 40A so successfully demonstrates how obnoxious and mostly unashamedly arrogant he is. What a sad narcissist (and regular forum troll). I totally agree with you that those two loops are very different. So, the rest of the thread is basically a waste of time. I listened to each of them many times and could only hear a slight similarity (but far more differences). There are thousands and thousands of riffs and loops that sound way more similar. And 40A's "within 8 hours" dumb point is irrelevant, even though there are events in the world that human beings refer to as "coincidences". And there are regularly ones far more amazing and baffling than two people uploading similar loops to the same website within a few hours of each other.
So, no, I certainly don't think you rip off Hot Chip. I don't really try to play like anyone else at all but I'm sure I must have riffs that have been played exactly that way before, perhaps even at the same tempo, on the same instrument etc. I sometimes worry about how the hell I'm going to come up with interesting new melodies and riffs in old age.
I think you're saying that you got really angry on Facebook and then went and recorded the Lovin It vocals. Fair enough.
Probably less commercial value to this if you're giving it away for free but I think you get my point.
If you release the stems for people, you'll get at least 15 remixes.
Why not do a Nitr8-Lovin It remixes double album?
We differ when it comes to commenting tracks in a way. I comment on almost every song I hear, whether I think it's great or not. Usually I will try to find at least one thing about the song that I like, and let them know. Then I can feel free to give them suggestions or criticism. Just kind of how I was taught to criticize I guess.
To have you say this may be better than "nightr8" is pleasing to hear, as I could really take or leave that song now. As far as picking a favorite, it is very hard for me, and wasn't really the intention for the remix opportunity. Without actually going back to listen to them all, the ones that come to mind instantly are ValveDriver's mashup with my song "Skim" as well as ShemZee's cover version. Never had anyone actually do a cover of one of my songs, so it made me happy! Overall, I am not happy with the modern rubbish sounds I used in the song, so it makes sense that I would enjoy the versions that relied less on those.
Totally agree with you regarding the "coincidences." Things happen every day which are more shockingly related or synchronous. It's nice to hear your views on that thread.
I don't think you have accused me of ripping off anyone else either, so no worries there. I just used it as an example. I hear what you mean about being strapped for new riffs in old age too. I guess I rely more heavily on sounds as opposed to riffs, so finding new ways to make sounds is my fall back plan.
When I got angry on facebook, I went and did several takes on the vocals... each take, my voice degraded even further. I used the results as a stepping stone for singing it how I wanted the next day. A sip of vodka soothed the throat.
I guess it would be cool to hear remixes of this, but I don't know if I'll do that. I don't want another nightr8 on my hands right now. Any way, this song is really short on faves and likes both here and soundcloud.
Thanks again for the comments!
on My Newest Creation - Fight Another Day by BradoSanz
This sounds very good, even though I'm not particularly into it. The vocals are excellent. I don't love them but they're perfect for this style. Right up there with a lot of very commercial, big-selling music.
I can go into more detail if you like regarding the other instruments but just wanted to say for now that the vocals really stand out. This kind of music is all about making them stand out and be catchy so you have a definite success there.
Oh, and EQing the vocals probably hasn't removed any unique quality. They sound good but also quite generic, which is partly what makes them good (in commercial terms).
Oh and I like the delivery of the line "If I'm honest with myself" - probably the delivery of "honest" in particular.
Ah - one criticism. Vocal delivery of the "you" in "without you" and "day" in "another day" I do not like.
on Despondent by EazyBeatz
This is good stuff. I think the money (cash register?) sample is cool and gives the whole thing an interesting feel. And some of the bits of delay on it help as well.
Lots of melody and good chill here. Also quite a bit of space, at times, to allow the instruments and sounds to breathe. And then you return with tight beats - EazyBeatz.
The dog sample is also good.
0:48 good pitch bent strings.
Good piano tone. Simple notes that are on the minor side of things but not depressing. Kind of sad beautiful.
It's not my favourite ever piece of music (not sure what is) but I don't really have any criticisms or suggestions, otherwise I would offer them. It's a good mix and I feel I can hear all the sounds quite clearly.
Good work.
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
Anyway, I guess I'll get better at it and getting good at bowing should help differentiate it from guitar/bass playing.
I was wrong about Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun. It's on the fantastic One Of These Days that Gilmour plays awesome pedal steel. STCFTHOTS is not in that concert but I did also watch it in their Pompeii gig. I could never forget the title but had forgotten the piece of music.
I hope you're familiar with the rather interesting hypnotic bass and drums stoner duo Om as STCFTHOTS is pretty much the blueprint for their style. Check that band out if you don't know them. I hope you also gave another recommendation of mine from ages a listen - Genghis Tron. Easily my favourite most extreme band of all time. I don't listen to much extreme screaming music but these guys make a true artform of it. Just listen to their Board Up The House album and be blown away.
Yes, I've now found the version of this track featuring Tumbleweed. No idea why I couldn't find it before. Not looking hard enough, I guess. Must remember to comment.
I've heard you say before that you're somewhat influenced by the seasons and chill more during the winter. I'm pretty sure that no weather or anything else going on in the world or my life has any bearing whatsoever on my music making. That's because I do such far out stuff that I think I get transported to somewhere completely removed from my life and surroundings so I just shut everything out and trip out into other worlds inside my imagination. And then try to create them in nice track bro form.
Yes, get yourself a guit fiddle. Well, if that's what you're comfortable with. Go with a triangle or accordion if they speak more to your soul and feel better to play. After all, a triangle is pretty damn metal, right? Solid piece of metal there.
Finally, I have a new track, featuring shitloads of vocals (not mine) and variety plus some definite badassery, especially in the second half (eg the d'n'b). It's 17.5 mins long so strap in, stuck up on food, drugs, alcohol and maybe a pillow for the long haul psychedelic extravaganza. Made 4 years ago but recently updated and improved. Something quite different for me.
Old Man Tribal
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/164627
Keep pushing the pistons...
on Apocalypse 2015 - revolta2 version by joecramer
Ah yes - Laibach. That's one of the groups I was thinking of but I couldn't remember their name.
Good to hear the apocalypse won't be happening in 2015. Let's put it off until at least 2016. I've actually done a huge amount of music work in the last two years. I've made a whole long album in just the last two months.
"i tryed to sound so much german that i could"
Yes, you did perfectly! Could not be more German.
Waiting two minutes for the vocal works fine because your ambient vibe and simple groove is easy to listen to and, while you're listening, it sounds like it's probably going to be an instrumental anyway so I'm not waiting for and expecting a vocal (as with a rock 'n' roll song).
I think what I wrote before was not clear. I wasn't saying that I would play this track for other people. What I meant was that I would not mind if I went round someone's house and they played this track, perhaps while we were talking or something. There's a lot of music that I choose not to listen to but son't mind hearing eg at someone's house or at a club or in a shop etc.
Best of luck with any more mixing and mastering. The track doesn't sound like it needs much more work.
In a way it is funny how much Laibach sounds, for an english ear, like a german band ......
Nice to know that you think it is already a good mix/master.
And i would love it, if you would listen to this song anywhere outside of looperman :)
stay tuned
joe
on Apocalypse 2015 - revolta2 version by joecramer
From an English perspective (mine) this is so very, very German. That may sound extremely obvious as you're singing in German but I'm also talking about the music. Very minimalist and perhaps like some of the German bands from the 70s/80s who I don't listen to eg Amon Duul, Tangerine Dream. I'm not quite sure as I don't listen to those sorts of groups.
It's a cool, simple groove. Not really that dark - just melancholy. All the synth work sounds good and I like how you wait 2 mins to bring in the vocal. It's really very chilled out.
I wouldn't choose to llisten to this at home but would be happy for someone else to put it on. Also good soundtrack music. And it's well produced so congratulations again.
Finally, is it really the acpocalypse in 2015? If so, I better finish some of my many albums as that will probably be quite difficult in a post-apocalyptic world (maybe no electricity).
Take care.
Ok, first - NO, the apocalypse will not come 2015! :) I´m sure. But if it brings you to work more on finishing music things ..... :)
I do this apocalypse thing since 1985/86 and there are a few difrent versions out - The first version was just - Apocalypse - all others get a year in the name, the year when i made it.....
This "german" thing is intresting, cause when i listen to this version, i have more stuff from the 80´s in mind like Laibach and so but maybe the influens of this "older" stuff is sooooo big :) but i am not a real big fan of them (to slowly for me when i was young). That a german voice sounds german, ok sure and in this special case i tryed to sound so much german that i could. So you got that point and thats cool! Same with this "dark" thing, i just wrote - it is a bit dark .... a (deep) melancholic feeling goes for the most into the "dark" direction .....
I didn´t go for this groove in the beginning but when i found that sound while playing with the vst, i know i had to use it. Sometimes (thats my opinion) music needs some time to come to the point where the vocals should start. And here the music just needs this 2 minutes to go there.
Nice to hear that you would play this for other people but you should maybe wait a little with that, cause this version isnt mixed and masterd realy. And i think i should do that, not for this comp thing but just for that track himself.
So thanks again for all the time you spend, until now, with listen to my music and all the friendly things and opinions you always write.
stay tuned
joe
on Distibiant - The Floor is Lava by LivingInSilence
I have no idea what 'dubstairs' is. No doubt just your little dubstep joke, which I like. Probably more than I like most dubstep, though I'm talking more about the type of harsh, growling dubstep people obsess over. You know the kind - no actual dub in there. Original dubstep, which is just a wobbling progression of dub, is actually pretty cool.
But this sort of unmusical, effects-obsessed, histrionic stuff that's always brickwall mastered I find pretty damn horrible.
You can hear some dubstep-style bass wobbling (LFO automation) in my track A Little Bit Of Infinity but it's a very musical piece rather than just someone wobbling away because they have no other, more musical elements to add.
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/164118
Anyway, yes I can see the track was built around the bass. That's quite common and how I also often work. No, "cute" synth seems pretty good. But go ahead and modify it or switch it out for another if you think you can do better. If you think you can do better, you probably can.
Yes, sub time is good. I'd like to get more sub stuff into my music but it can be tricky. I think it might work best if you leave things sparser on top of the sub. So, maybe have sub and then higher frequency stuff so not much midrange. Just a theory - I'm not a technical sound guy whatsoever.
I'd prefer to hear you do something with fat grooves that isn't just a club track (I know you can). I tend to find that more musical and interesting. Club tracks have to be very good for me not to be bored. I wasn't bored with this one (I prefer Klokwerk) but I'd probably rather the elements were used as a fat groove 80-110 BPM thing. Just my preference.
Take care.
on So Long Bound by Evisma
Used to smoke weed but gave up. Did nothing for creativity, though there were some good laughs. No need for drugs for imagination as that comes easily. Crazy, sometimes amusing ideas are one of my few talents. I like to think I get some of that imagination into my music (not one of my natural talents).
I came up with this logically, thinking about Jeff's hands and if the problem were more extreme. I was trying to think of an amusing response to you telling me about it and then decided it could be a superpower, if harnessed. Could be used for good but more likely bad. Good guys don't go around corroding stuff with oily skin. None that I know.
I'm not knocking Jeff as I don't know him and am unlikely to. In terms of character back story, I'm a failed musician too ie entirely outside the music industry.
Don't like The Rustition. Rusting stuff isn't badass and it'll take a while to obliterate Nashville waiting for it to rust. Maybe you can do better though Corroder or Corrosive are perhaps decent enough.
Came up with Sliderman a few years ago.He suits a music-related plot. Interesting how much energy I sometimes put into the slide. Sometimes the whole arm but often seemingly more of the body when getting really intense.
I have another superhero called Frisbee Boy (I'm a big fan of the frisbee). He chucks a variety of frisbees, with incredible accuracy. They're also his shield (like Captain America) and vehicle though I'm not sure how you would throw one and then get on it! And you can't throw it if you're sitting on it. Need some special effects movie physics there.
What would your superhero be? Bass Boy? Or Bass Bastard if he's a supervillain. If Sliderman and Bass Boy team up with a drum-related superhero, they could have a kickass superhero band. Think of the killer riffage the bad guys would have to contend with! Supervillains getting cymbals smashed over their heards and being double kick drummed to death. Their vehicle would be drum-propelled, with the drummer smashing away at impossible speeds. Maybe he would have 6 retractable arms. Retractable so he doesn't look like a freak all the time.
The reverse cymbal Kryptonite thing isn't quite accurate. I do sometimes like a reverse cymbal and have used them most sparingly over the years. You often use them in your tracks, but tastefully, as opposed to someone like Crucethus, who has ruined tracks (for me) with ridiculous overuse. Some are better than others but it's still a bit of a gimmick. When it gets repeated and repeated (especially the exact same way) it loses the element of surprise it perhaps first had.
Maybe Ewan MacGregor will play you in the film though he's generally in pretty poor films. This one will be awesome so maybe his first good one since Trainspotting or Shallow Grave.
Now I must slide away...