drums on the mids and highs more pronounced?
feels a little... "off"
but
despite that criticism
this is really really great stuff!
agree with mr.sean
but I really enjoy it either way
... hmnn.. I want to be real
Ok
Drums more in the mix (mono even) minus the ethnic qualities (high point was the bridge), then bring everything up around that stereo field wise around?
So you have a more focused groove?
Panning and such is great, the vocal I like-- but it feels too prominent in my opinion .
The ending outro thingy was awesome!
agree with Coney (minus the cowbell lol -- but that is just me- it would fit the texture) and bcway , but I hear you in there!
soo nice!
Definitely play the bass with the pointer and middle finger!
no pick
in fact, if you have a stand-up bass you should use that lol
(wishful thinking-- right? I have been listening to a lot of MUTEMATH so that may be why)
sounds are definitely defined and in the mix
drums are layered in a fantastic fashion, great job with the mic placement!
Hmn... What is that... It's like.. I want... http://www.massenburg.com/cgi-bin/ml/vocal_overdubbing.html?id=xffYSfdQ
vocal overdubs
but then cut volumes as accordingly
i would think that mono would be the best bet (which I am sure you are aware of- so you don't have anything phasing out in the stereo spectrum)
I mean-- I like your overdubs you have!
but - if you were to do multiple takes (identically) of the same vocal -- you would perhaps get a full round sound?
Like those big production techniques
fer example, I knew a guy that worked in a studio with Alice in Chains, and Layne Stayley actually had 40 tracks of overdubs JUST for his vocals -- CAN YOU IMAGINE?!?!
I know that Butch Vig, when he produced Nirvana's Nevermind; he had to convince Kurt Cobain to do overdubbing for a more shiny sound, by telling kurt John Lennon swoooore by vocal overdubs
I dunno,
It's a fantastic beautiful piece of work.
I would love to stare at the waveform
First, I appreciate passing on the link to the Massenburg site & the stories. I love true stories about recording!
So are you politely suggesting I redo the vocals?
Or are you saying I should double track the lead vocal for a thicker sound?
I know you def want me to redo the bass track without a pick. I realized today I still need to master this little track, too.
Second, I greatly appreciate the depth you put into the review. This helps me improve.
Thanks a million!
It's hard to really say... I think you are evolving kinda.. in a way as a musician.. Opening up your presence.
I know I have sent you accolades of compliments for your work on this. It has dark elements... Bittersweetness..
Full drums that almost ... DRUM like soft spoken messages (I do wish they spoke a bit more--- Some rolls? meh??? It works fine honestly... But COULD YOU IMAGINE IF YOU HAD A SESSION DRUMMER ON THIS TRACK!!!? Awesome stuff!)
NICE breakdown btw!
I can tell you had fun... I love the final result, e-mailing you soon!
I felt this track should have gone onto Jan's page not mine as he did the hard work-hours of putting the sounds together. He deserves the credit. thanks for a great review
Haha...we both know it's an inconsequential little pothole on a backroad leading to the musical highway...but thanks for listening man!..cheers Dave :)
nope
hmn.. must be the sample rate at the biggining!
definitely great stuff.
It needs a .. bit of ... depth.... feels too in there.. but then again.. that may be what you are going for?
when i say that, what i mean is, that I would prefer .... personally as a listener, that the horns have a character, that is constantly changing, via effects/automation... changes...
also, the high hats triplets/1/32nds kinda stand out via panning.. there are ways to make this more fluid?
hey thanks! came up with this track in about 30 minutes lol.
i noticed one of my loops had a little lag as well, and i did my best to fix it, but can only do so much when it affects the timing.
thanks again for the great review, im glad you liked it!
hey man, thanx alot for listening again. ive just been playing around b4 with some reverb and your right, its sounding real fresh and it really works for me. im glad u like it. it was fun just writing a song about just kickin with me mates hangin down at our local river under the trees!!
thanx alot man
ThatcheR
Hey Abe..good question! lol..I'm sure in an expanded and scrutinized version a more repetitive key signature would emerge..I'm dabbling in Fsharp and A with a lot of flats thrown in...In these free form sessions I suppose I'm more concerned with timing..but I like to get the apparition of unexpected chords within the music by trying to play fifths in conjunction to what I'm hearing...in these sort of things I'm winging it..which I suppose in some ways is necessary if you want to fly..lol..ps...I'll definitely be checking out squarepusher..cheers mate :)
The one thing that comes to mind.. is perhaps allowing the music "to breathe" a little more?
But then again, I kinda like the onslaught of digital. Translates a strange paradoxical feeling ... organic and completely in-organic.
Also, I have to add, it's a bit like frying on Acid.
Great break btw!
Perhaps a gated crash cymbal on the down beats would make it more of a knee stomper/kneck breaker?
either way
I would give you a bottle of wine, two twinkies (in UN-opened packaging), 4 quarters, and 17 unburnt CD-R's for a disc with some album art.
fer real
:)
LOL, Abe youre a nut!!Throw in some bacon flavored cheese whiz and you got yourself a deal.. Thanks though man. When you say breathe, a paddy type breakdown comes to my mind, and maybe a different arrangement of the sections/riffs.. i dunno man. Any how purple must go on!
The depth with panning.. delay that you utilize...
there is something goin' on in your head.. that I don't think a lotta people could even grasp..
Again...
I need it to be said to me.
Like.. .. how could I explain
it's like seeing symbols but .. not correctly understanding the symbolism.
I think I do.. "But.. Do I?"
It has elements.. (to me) of staring fear in the eyes.
The listless taste of ... indignation
the joy of victory, but... a sense of ... doom
all through the kaleidoscope of music
it's very well done..
something in me still secretly wishes
that it transferred from the musical psychedelia, into HARD rhythms and grinding grooves..
lol
would buy your CD if you supplied some cool liner notes
:)
Yes, you would be the one that gets it! The language choices - uncanny! My instrumental nonverbal ballad about the Language Elves. I'll write you about the provocative stuff, but your last comment/critique - this is the hard limitation of iamthemightyjungulator. Very, very limited platform that can only be played as an instrument. One shot - get it right with a max of 6 loops. No vst effects, no sends, nothing. It's too bad, too as it's got serious potential. I'm thinking that I owe M. Oden a huge dept of thanks as I wouldn't have pursued this type of music at all hadn't that program been so much fun to play with.
Thank you for listening to song bro..
and I've haven't lifted any parts.. but if there are any coincidences.. thats purely not my fault.
and that poem is really cool.
The sunlight spotting thru the trees...
Rain falling softly from the leaves..
The hunted and the hunter!
Very cool and interresting textures that groove into pure smooth time!
I have a good feeling about the track!
I can't wait to hear the tunes that you will have in the future!
I would like to hear a mix with some elements cutting out, and an EVEN more .... "darker" jungle would sound COOL too!
In my "musical-minds-eye" I picture some cool contrast with some more industrial sounds.. and then a mix with an acoustic soundfeel too...
The ability of this track too me make me think about the creative process, makes this an INCREDIBLE track in the first place.
It is kinda... a decentralized... techno ethnic ambient song... of the FINEST quality.
I would buy your CD if you included some art in the packaging
:P
Dude,--- Vocals on this(???)... that would be a FULL production with the right lyrics and singing on top!?
Love it.
Abe - I love your reviews, not only of my tracks but the others, too! I love stepping outside myself and "seeing" through your eyes. Your comments are all spot on, and I think my Definitive Pope < 3 min. piece will have to be one version. There's going to have to be the Dance version, the extended Ambient version, and the dark belly of the Black Widow version (a frightening beauty). I'm kicking around lyrics for it right now, and will send you some drafts when it's time. Thanks for your encouragement - it means a lot.
Hey Abe...I hear you man...that's one of the best reviews I've ever received..I think a lot of what your talking about is the true actual fundamentals of good music..clearly when I created this piece I had a vision of what I wanted but in the application of it...it fell down in a few critical areas..I put it down to at that stage not being totally up to speed with my recording software and techniques...so rather than delivering a piece that breathes..it got cobbled together..I think I've reached the stage now where I'm a lot more aware of this...and there's more light and shade in my work....and please whenever you think I might take something badly..go in even harder!..I'm totally aware that music is a learning process..man sometimes I feel like I'm still on the first page!...cheers buddy..Dave :)
on Teenage Love by Colors_Killing_Numbers
it's amazing
it gave me chills
that's all i ask for in music.
please me please
on The Landlord is at the Door,He wants a Rent Cheque by bcway
on Whats Good with That Noize ft The Philosofist 2 by victormusic01x
drums on the mids and highs more pronounced?
feels a little... "off"
but
despite that criticism
this is really really great stuff!
agree with mr.sean
but I really enjoy it either way
... hmnn.. I want to be real
Ok
Drums more in the mix (mono even) minus the ethnic qualities (high point was the bridge), then bring everything up around that stereo field wise around?
So you have a more focused groove?
Panning and such is great, the vocal I like-- but it feels too prominent in my opinion .
The ending outro thingy was awesome!
I like your style!
on Where Are You by d2d
soo nice!
Definitely play the bass with the pointer and middle finger!
no pick
in fact, if you have a stand-up bass you should use that lol
(wishful thinking-- right? I have been listening to a lot of MUTEMATH so that may be why)
sounds are definitely defined and in the mix
drums are layered in a fantastic fashion, great job with the mic placement!
Hmn... What is that... It's like.. I want...
http://www.massenburg.com/cgi-bin/ml/vocal_overdubbing.html?id=xffYSfdQ
vocal overdubs
but then cut volumes as accordingly
i would think that mono would be the best bet (which I am sure you are aware of- so you don't have anything phasing out in the stereo spectrum)
I mean-- I like your overdubs you have!
but - if you were to do multiple takes (identically) of the same vocal -- you would perhaps get a full round sound?
Like those big production techniques
fer example, I knew a guy that worked in a studio with Alice in Chains, and Layne Stayley actually had 40 tracks of overdubs JUST for his vocals -- CAN YOU IMAGINE?!?!
I know that Butch Vig, when he produced Nirvana's Nevermind; he had to convince Kurt Cobain to do overdubbing for a more shiny sound, by telling kurt John Lennon swoooore by vocal overdubs
I dunno,
It's a fantastic beautiful piece of work.
I would love to stare at the waveform
So are you politely suggesting I redo the vocals?
Or are you saying I should double track the lead vocal for a thicker sound?
I know you def want me to redo the bass track without a pick. I realized today I still need to master this little track, too.
Second, I greatly appreciate the depth you put into the review. This helps me improve.
Thanks a million!
on Impromptu by Avail
It's hard to really say... I think you are evolving kinda.. in a way as a musician.. Opening up your presence.
I know I have sent you accolades of compliments for your work on this. It has dark elements... Bittersweetness..
Full drums that almost ... DRUM like soft spoken messages (I do wish they spoke a bit more--- Some rolls? meh??? It works fine honestly... But COULD YOU IMAGINE IF YOU HAD A SESSION DRUMMER ON THIS TRACK!!!? Awesome stuff!)
NICE breakdown btw!
I can tell you had fun... I love the final result, e-mailing you soon!
on Techno-Beckno by DanielGtrman
that phasing was ...
epic!
a bit high on the highs...
but this is EPIC!
great job guys!
seriously!
this is FANTASTIC!
hold your head up!
you owned this.
on So Hypnotic TRUTH Ft MANZET by CONEYISLANDRECORDS
on Felixville by Planetjazzbass
:)
i like this!
(ps .. i know this is my double-review-on-a-double-post)
but i haaad to add!
on I gotta get my money up by MidwestMeach
i hear the dreaded distortion?
it may be my browser...
nope
hmn.. must be the sample rate at the biggining!
definitely great stuff.
It needs a .. bit of ... depth.... feels too in there.. but then again.. that may be what you are going for?
when i say that, what i mean is, that I would prefer .... personally as a listener, that the horns have a character, that is constantly changing, via effects/automation... changes...
also, the high hats triplets/1/32nds kinda stand out via panning.. there are ways to make this more fluid?
just my opinion.
this track has vibe.
favoriting
and recommending
( i want more money too! :p )
on Take It Slow by The_Acidizer
you are using Acid huh?
... there has to be a way to change the complex waveform on that prog...
i use ableton...
hmnn..
wow.. you have a brilliant idea here! this is solid as they come! even in pop music standards?
but what is up with the laggy loops?
otherwise.. a really standout track!
epic looping skills all over this
almost good as eshar looping skills
damn dude... aren't we supposed to be in a band or something like that? lol
i noticed one of my loops had a little lag as well, and i did my best to fix it, but can only do so much when it affects the timing.
thanks again for the great review, im glad you liked it!
on Da Streetz From K West by Strullu
really cool minor movement on this...
it's sampled in such a way that is really great...
I would add a hint of reverb to the drums.. plate.. in my opinion..
i love how open it is to my mind... it has ultimate possibilities.
you got something good.
on Freelancer by yurivaloli
lol
I enjoy the textures! they feel more than a bit abrupt.
Some space between the elements , implementing them in a way that ... speaks.. more so than for "production" value, woulda been nice.
It's really got arrangement down.. but this song needs more "segue" into each part? to be more effective "emotionally" as a piece of art.
keep it up!
this is some really well produced mixing!
ps.. fer example.. the only real "fades" i heard where on the outros... just keeping it real
on what more ft DustHill by Marvelous
solid!
harmonica delay and/or reverb might sound cool!
love this!
on SUNNY MELBOURNE DAY by GHOSTthatcheR
this is...
Tight. Amazing dude!
that is soo cool...
sinuey melodies, and the cold chill of the drums... it's perfect!
your vocals sound soo much better too!
I agree with COStly
Have you tried any compressors?
Faved!
Btw, try some Reverb?? i think a little on the edges would be nice!
and fade in the intro???
altho...
it makes me smile how loud it is
:)
thanx alot man
ThatcheR
on Felixville by Planetjazzbass
You definitely speak in volumes!
Is this in the Key of Black and White???
lol
this is Jazz for a new generation in someways!
I did hear something going on-- IN whole notes over this in my head which would have opened up the feeling --- at least in my mind. Just my opinion
Despite my criticism, the break was ENOUGH for me to fall in love with the track.
all in ten minutes!
You like any Squarepusher? You would LOOOOOVE squarepusher Dave.
seriously. Check him out, if you haven't.
Faved, Downloaded, Recommended.
(seriously, what key is this in?-- I love it, it's like a digital chameleon???)
on Fuzzy No-No's. by JackRipper
The one thing that comes to mind.. is perhaps allowing the music "to breathe" a little more?
But then again, I kinda like the onslaught of digital. Translates a strange paradoxical feeling ... organic and completely in-organic.
Also, I have to add, it's a bit like frying on Acid.
Great break btw!
Perhaps a gated crash cymbal on the down beats would make it more of a knee stomper/kneck breaker?
either way
I would give you a bottle of wine, two twinkies (in UN-opened packaging), 4 quarters, and 17 unburnt CD-R's for a disc with some album art.
fer real
:)
on Tama Improvision (Drumtrack) by Avail
damn dude!
yah?
wow.. you know I have always had the Hardest time making tom's sound even worthwhile..
this is awesome!
If I do something, I can't promise it will be awesome
But I think I will get on it tonight.
E-mailing you in a bit!
on Cantus Ranocchio by n0mad23
on Factory Gnome Midnight Party by n0mad23
lol
figures..
The depth with panning.. delay that you utilize...
there is something goin' on in your head.. that I don't think a lotta people could even grasp..
Again...
I need it to be said to me.
Like.. .. how could I explain
it's like seeing symbols but .. not correctly understanding the symbolism.
I think I do.. "But.. Do I?"
It has elements.. (to me) of staring fear in the eyes.
The listless taste of ... indignation
the joy of victory, but... a sense of ... doom
all through the kaleidoscope of music
it's very well done..
something in me still secretly wishes
that it transferred from the musical psychedelia, into HARD rhythms and grinding grooves..
lol
would buy your CD if you supplied some cool liner notes
:)
on Faint Thoughts by Samuel_Pushpak
Tears
Stubbing my toe
Girls at the mall
getting gas, remembering I forgot my debit card
Stupid statements
faint memories....
cool
sounds like it was pulled from a previous work .. or leads into another....
still
very well done!
and I've haven't lifted any parts.. but if there are any coincidences.. thats purely not my fault.
and that poem is really cool.
on Jungulation Victor by n0mad23
Rain falling softly from the leaves..
The hunted and the hunter!
Very cool and interresting textures that groove into pure smooth time!
I have a good feeling about the track!
I can't wait to hear the tunes that you will have in the future!
I would like to hear a mix with some elements cutting out, and an EVEN more .... "darker" jungle would sound COOL too!
In my "musical-minds-eye" I picture some cool contrast with some more industrial sounds.. and then a mix with an acoustic soundfeel too...
The ability of this track too me make me think about the creative process, makes this an INCREDIBLE track in the first place.
It is kinda... a decentralized... techno ethnic ambient song... of the FINEST quality.
I would buy your CD if you included some art in the packaging
:P
Dude,--- Vocals on this(???)... that would be a FULL production with the right lyrics and singing on top!?
Love it.
on Organized Confusion by JDOT2006
on When The Boat Comes In by Planetjazzbass
i had heard this song months ago, and... i liked it...
but bass was soo powerful.
and the compression was ... almost too sharp.. post edit**NOT TOO sharp.. but less threshold
and. this is a song of joy. something that i naturally don't feel aligned with often. but i really do LOVE the changing keys and pace.
i ... don't want you to take this ... baddly.. but let the music speak? let it have a moment DURING your playing to draw emotion?.
i still love it!
edit
Try and speak with your mouth, a statement with you bass in your hands, and record a solo style thing there??? ... for me?
on Gropecunt Lane by JackTripper
kinda dusty
like a rug
Me likey
I like
to
Hug
Good track.
I thought you were JackRipper.. But you are JackTripper?
I think you should FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!!! AND ALL OF LOOPERMAN PAYS TO WATCH!!
lol
Fantastic mind trip of a track!
KEEP IT UP!
take care
(oh, and on the Jack/Jack issue... i was here first. :oP )
on Call it Conversation by Acrylic