This is epic!!!
That 'main' riff from 1.56 won the listener endlessly...ultimate metal with hilarious drums, specially the kick...as Dave Lombardo, the king...
Guitars are sharp as knife and that moody pad at the back gave that dark feeling to the track...could easily listen to it with female vocs (weird?)...
I go back to check the first part, somehow I missed it or don't remember but this one is an outstanding job...
all my hats off with my handshake on my knees...:-)
Dave Lombardo has always been one of my favorites!
Coincidentally enough, the moody pads in the background actually are female vocals. I just kept them lower in the mix to not take away from the guitars.
I'm glad you liked this one, bud. I'll be putting up one more from the series soon.
The otherworldly intro forecasts something special indeed and that's what we get and even more. Incredible this is done again only with vst's...so convincing sound! This one is a stunner....punchy and agressive, dark metal at it's best! I really like the transition and what follows...also the outro is logical conclusion. No wonder you like this one so much yourself...deservedly so ! 10/10 for this masterpiece !!
Loving that intro.....Nice Spaghetti western guitars. Fender if I am not mistaken? and that is before I read the comments. I feel the angst of the nineties Seattle sound and I hear the dynamics of a progressive sabbath sound. But I also feel the soul of our Neanderthal ancestors battling the cold and Grey glaciers for a morsel of food. The Blast beat drums give it a 2000+ feel as well. I don't know by 3:55 I felt Equally angry at Farmers and Bankers which is sort of a queasy place to be in. I think you just invented the genre Anti-industrial. Jesus H Christopher this song is just dripping with dread and cold and calculating evolution. This is the kind of music that will send those young earth creationists to stop and point and yell, "SEE that's what there all like..see! and then it just ends in a nihilistic cloud of vacuousness!
Creepy, entangling and an evocative piece of work Aaron. oh and damn good!
The spaghetti western thing was totally unintentional, but once it was pointed out, I liked it, and ran with it.
Ah yes. The angsty nineties Seattle sound. One of my favorite genres. Not only because I plunged head first into music during the nineties, but because Seattle is just a couple hours from here, and I was heavily exposed to it. So, much like I said in my reply to Evan, I'm sure the influence bled in.
Sabbath has been one of my favorites ever since I was about 5 years old. there were 4 songs from back then that I credit as the door way to my love for metal. Iron Man, Another Brick In the Wall pt.2, Tom Sawyer, and Black Dog. Whenever I heard them on the radio, I would stop what I was doing and just listen.
" I also feel the soul of our Neanderthal ancestors battling the cold and Grey glaciers for a morsel of food"
It's cool that you said this. This is the first part of three "Overmyth" tracks. It's supposed to be like the beginning of a darkness that comes over early man. Parts 2 and 3 are still in the works. I'm kind of jumping back and forth between them. Hopefully part two is finished first. You know, chronology and all.
Growing up in the plains of the midwest america, I not only knew, but am related to a lot of farmers. I don't think they would be such assholes if it weren't for the bankers. So, I can jump on board with the being angry at bankers, but farmers hold a spot in my heart, and bloodline.
"Anti-industrial" elaborate on that. I'd really like to know how you came to this.
I'm glad you liked this one. There is a select handful of people here that I always look forward to hearing feedback from while I'm making tracks. You, sir, are one of them.
Opening swells reminds me of "The Creature Lives" off Once More 'Round The Sun. Goes a bit different with some effective drums. Distortion kicking in makes me think of "No Quarter".
Goddamn impressive guitars here. Cannot lie. Great job making it sound like actual guitar lines. Listening to this, I know I would have EQ'd and mixed the life right out of this track. I've got it cranked in headphones and there is a bit of high end I would take out of the distortion, but I never know when to stop and wind up killing energy with several cuts.
Outro is epic and finalizing. Got no advice or thoughts on improvements. Good heaviness with awesome tones. Beefy.
What's happnin' Mr. E.?
I'm doing ok. Things are a bit still at the moment, but tha's better than a decline. Right?
"Opening swells reminds me of "The Creature Lives"
Now that you mention it, it does. It would make sense. They are one of my top tier favorite bands. Not as much as Floyd, but they're up there.
" Distortion kicking in makes me think of "No Quarter".
Are you thinking the Crowbar cover, or the original Zep version? I honestly don't hear it. Either way, I've always liked that song. I know it's blasphemous in some circles, but I like Crowbar's version better.
" there is a bit of high end I would take out of the distortion"
Yeah. It might be a little too sizzly. I was trying to go for a razors edge on a sledgehammer sound. I may have just added too much high end.
Things are getting wellerer, I guess. Just very, very slowly.
Wow...Aaron, this must be one of your best works if not the best! To achieve such an acomplished sound only with vst's is just incredible! This is beyond any doubt class A metal stuff, so masterfully arranged and produced and the most important it also shows ValveDriver's recognisable identity. I would download this if i could...so the only thing that's left is giving this a FAV...and it's a big one and well deserved !
That's some pretty high praise, my friend. I thank you for that!
I think you may be right about it being one of my best yet. I really like the way this one turned out. Which is a good thing. This is the first track of the Overmyth Trilogy. It would have sucked if I didn't like it!
I'm glad the ValveDriver calling card sound is still present. I was afraid it may have gotten lost in the lack of synths.
Whoa man talk about shreddage the guitar tone and style are awesome! and considering that you played them via a vst is a real eye opener, that's some serious understanding of the software and instrument at work bravo!...The way you've mixed arranged and given this whole track excellent continuity is a testament to some real skills so don't sell yourself short I know some guitar aficionados who would be lining up to get this sound nailed down...very cool stuff! cheers Dave/PJB :)
Dave, I do believe this is the first time you've ever commented on my work. And to come in with such a positive and encouraging one. For that, I thank you sincerely.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I know you're an old-school kind of guy, so for you to be so accepting of a totally new school method, means that much more.
Epic song man! Beautiful guitar tones. Every single lead is perfect. The music really painted a picture for me. I'm not a big fan of super long tracks but I listened to the entire song. I could see the accompanying film being set in a post-apocalyptic desert landscape. Well done!
Thanks, man! I'm glad you liked this one. Based on your description of the image you got, I'm guessing you're probably a fellow Fallot fan. May the steel be with you!
Man this is fun bro !
Its like Quentin Taratinos Heavy Metal version of the Good Bad and the Ugly ! I really dig the spaghetti western guitar picking in the beginning segment but that soon gives way to a nice heavy chord groove. I really dig those chord changes and, oh yeah, that's some real tasty lead. Man this is all done in Shreddage? Unbelievable. You throw in some real ominous breakdown and then a nice return to the western vibe guitar twang and those peaking single coils. Real slick transitioning. The last section really amps things up to another high level of intensity, some real edgy progression with guitar and drums laying down a heavy triplet cadence. This is wicked man, and I love the build to the abrupt hanging note ending.
Yeah, I'm all smiles right now bro. So happy to see and hear the Valvedriver cranking it out once more!!!
I didn't really shoot for the spaghetti wedtern sound, but now that you mention it, it totally is! Works for me!
I'm glad you liked the chord changes and leads. Those were a couple of things I wasn't 100% confident with. Especially the leads. I'm really more of a rythym guy, so I tend to feel like my leads are severely kacking. Nit only in content, but structure as well. So hearing from a guitar man that I'm doing alright is encouraging. Thanjs fir that, man!
Yes. This is entirely done with Shreddage. Around the time I first got it, I saw a comment here in a forum post that someone else made, saying that the virtual guitars are good for back up, or accents, but can never be used for a complete track. I took that as a silent challenge. Honestly, though, I'm still not fully satisfied, so expect more where I've pushed myself even harder.
Funny thing is, about the triplet cadence...I didn't even realize I was doing it, so again, more encouraging words that I'm doing something right!
Hey, man, you take care, and thanks again for the positive feedback. It's truly appreciated.
And so, the one and only master of dark industrial atmosphere is back in full form. What a treat! This really attacks all the senses...attacks physical body even. Constantly threatening tones and merciless brutality
is not a joke...and it's done and executed brilliantly...just the way
we've all been used to get the lesson from Valve Driver. I hope this
masterpiece forecasts much more to come...Excellent!
First of all, thank you for checking this one out. I know it's not exactly your kind of music, so it means a lot that you did.
There is definitely more to come. Some will be like this one, some will be straight up heavy metal, and there's even a few that I don't know what the hell you'd call it. Just....Valvedriver.
Take care, my friend. I hope life is treating you well.
Aaron.
I was entirely surprised to come across a track tagged "ValveDriver" today! It's a pleasant feeling!
I would definitely think industrial when hearing this, though I agree with the dubstep and DnB references. I was interested regarding your reply "It's not the typical industrial BPM, but it dies fit." I've never thought of industrial as having a typical tempo. Did you think that this was too slow, or too fast for typical industrial? Possibly it is the metalhead difference, since those who dig metal the most seem to listen to a different sort of industrial compared to those who are not metalheads. I listen to a good amount of pure industrial which is quite a bit slower than this, and also some which is much faster... so it's hard to judge what's up,
Either way I liked the idea for the song. Some cool riff based passages, and noisy industrial drums. I did find the mixing to be very mono-tone... Like all of the instruments were fighting for the same octave. Possibly this was due to after the fact processing though, I don't know.
Was very fun to hear some new work from you, and I hope to hear more!
Thanks for taking the time to comment. It's always a pleasure to hear from you.
" Did you think that this was too slow, or too fast for typical industrial?"
I thought it was too fast. If I remember correctly, most industrial is usually about 120-130 bpm. This is running at 140. So, it's not a lot faster, but faster than typical.
You make a good point about meatalheads and their preferences towards industrial. I know I tend to lean more towards the Ministry, Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, side. usually that with more guitars than synths.
You also made a very good point about everything fighting for the same octave. I was going for heavy and relentless, but after going back, it could definitely use a little more in the higher range.
"...and I hope to hear more."
There is definitely more in store. I've been on a block for about a year. I've started a lot of tracks, but got nowhere with them. But it seems as if the block is, at the very least, temporarily lifted.
Fantastic, that sloe cure for VD did not work. And now VD is rampant again among the lands. Now that VD is raging everywhere bringing sores and pusfilled scabs for everyone who crosses his slow dearth march towards Golgotha I expect we will get some more of this angst filled pile driving industrial solvent for our aural chambers. It serves us right in the end. The sinner draws near, preying upon our fears , quenching his thirst in the blood stained world of pop music bringing steel hammers and iron cables crashing among the millennials. bringing forth....err a wow, ok yeah I'm in a dark mood tonight.. geez! Anyhow liked the song. Welcome back.
Cru Cru Cray Cray!
This track goes hard, but not in the way one would expect... I listened to it a few times before I understood what you were trying to do, but I really enjoy this!
on Overmyth II - Cathedral Of The Witch by ValveDriver
This is epic!!!
That 'main' riff from 1.56 won the listener endlessly...ultimate metal with hilarious drums, specially the kick...as Dave Lombardo, the king...
Guitars are sharp as knife and that moody pad at the back gave that dark feeling to the track...could easily listen to it with female vocs (weird?)...
I go back to check the first part, somehow I missed it or don't remember but this one is an outstanding job...
all my hats off with my handshake on my knees...:-)
Danke
Dave Lombardo has always been one of my favorites!
Coincidentally enough, the moody pads in the background actually are female vocals. I just kept them lower in the mix to not take away from the guitars.
I'm glad you liked this one, bud. I'll be putting up one more from the series soon.
Take care, mister.
Aaron.
on Overmyth II - Cathedral Of The Witch by ValveDriver
The otherworldly intro forecasts something special indeed and that's what we get and even more. Incredible this is done again only with vst's...so convincing sound! This one is a stunner....punchy and agressive, dark metal at it's best! I really like the transition and what follows...also the outro is logical conclusion. No wonder you like this one so much yourself...deservedly so ! 10/10 for this masterpiece !!
Hat's off_____Orlando
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you liked this one. I still have one more in the series, so stay tuned!
Thanks again, friend.
Take care.
Aaron
on Overmyth II - Cathedral Of The Witch by ValveDriver
Thanks for the compliment. Especially considering it's not your preferred genre.
Thanks again.
Take care.
V.
on Overmyth II - Cathedral Of The Witch by ValveDriver
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
Creepy, entangling and an evocative piece of work Aaron. oh and damn good!
Steve
The spaghetti western thing was totally unintentional, but once it was pointed out, I liked it, and ran with it.
Ah yes. The angsty nineties Seattle sound. One of my favorite genres. Not only because I plunged head first into music during the nineties, but because Seattle is just a couple hours from here, and I was heavily exposed to it. So, much like I said in my reply to Evan, I'm sure the influence bled in.
Sabbath has been one of my favorites ever since I was about 5 years old. there were 4 songs from back then that I credit as the door way to my love for metal. Iron Man, Another Brick In the Wall pt.2, Tom Sawyer, and Black Dog. Whenever I heard them on the radio, I would stop what I was doing and just listen.
" I also feel the soul of our Neanderthal ancestors battling the cold and Grey glaciers for a morsel of food"
It's cool that you said this. This is the first part of three "Overmyth" tracks. It's supposed to be like the beginning of a darkness that comes over early man. Parts 2 and 3 are still in the works. I'm kind of jumping back and forth between them. Hopefully part two is finished first. You know, chronology and all.
Growing up in the plains of the midwest america, I not only knew, but am related to a lot of farmers. I don't think they would be such assholes if it weren't for the bankers. So, I can jump on board with the being angry at bankers, but farmers hold a spot in my heart, and bloodline.
"Anti-industrial" elaborate on that. I'd really like to know how you came to this.
I'm glad you liked this one. There is a select handful of people here that I always look forward to hearing feedback from while I'm making tracks. You, sir, are one of them.
Take care up there.
Aaron.
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
Opening swells reminds me of "The Creature Lives" off Once More 'Round The Sun. Goes a bit different with some effective drums. Distortion kicking in makes me think of "No Quarter".
Goddamn impressive guitars here. Cannot lie. Great job making it sound like actual guitar lines. Listening to this, I know I would have EQ'd and mixed the life right out of this track. I've got it cranked in headphones and there is a bit of high end I would take out of the distortion, but I never know when to stop and wind up killing energy with several cuts.
Outro is epic and finalizing. Got no advice or thoughts on improvements. Good heaviness with awesome tones. Beefy.
I hope all is well and getting wellerer with you.
Evan
I'm doing ok. Things are a bit still at the moment, but tha's better than a decline. Right?
"Opening swells reminds me of "The Creature Lives"
Now that you mention it, it does. It would make sense. They are one of my top tier favorite bands. Not as much as Floyd, but they're up there.
" Distortion kicking in makes me think of "No Quarter".
Are you thinking the Crowbar cover, or the original Zep version? I honestly don't hear it. Either way, I've always liked that song. I know it's blasphemous in some circles, but I like Crowbar's version better.
" there is a bit of high end I would take out of the distortion"
Yeah. It might be a little too sizzly. I was trying to go for a razors edge on a sledgehammer sound. I may have just added too much high end.
Things are getting wellerer, I guess. Just very, very slowly.
Take care, my friend.
Aaron.
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
Compliments and respect______Orlando
That's some pretty high praise, my friend. I thank you for that!
I think you may be right about it being one of my best yet. I really like the way this one turned out. Which is a good thing. This is the first track of the Overmyth Trilogy. It would have sucked if I didn't like it!
I'm glad the ValveDriver calling card sound is still present. I was afraid it may have gotten lost in the lack of synths.
Again, sir, I thank you for your kind words!
Skol!
Aaron
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
Yes. This is all virtual software. The guitar, the drums, the Bass guitar and the synths.
Take care.
V.
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I know you're an old-school kind of guy, so for you to be so accepting of a totally new school method, means that much more.
Thanks again, man.
Skol.
Aaron.
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
I'm impressed , very welldone .
Thank you.
V.
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
Thanks, man! I'm glad you liked this one. Based on your description of the image you got, I'm guessing you're probably a fellow Fallot fan. May the steel be with you!
Skol.
V.
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
Its like Quentin Taratinos Heavy Metal version of the Good Bad and the Ugly ! I really dig the spaghetti western guitar picking in the beginning segment but that soon gives way to a nice heavy chord groove. I really dig those chord changes and, oh yeah, that's some real tasty lead. Man this is all done in Shreddage? Unbelievable. You throw in some real ominous breakdown and then a nice return to the western vibe guitar twang and those peaking single coils. Real slick transitioning. The last section really amps things up to another high level of intensity, some real edgy progression with guitar and drums laying down a heavy triplet cadence. This is wicked man, and I love the build to the abrupt hanging note ending.
Yeah, I'm all smiles right now bro. So happy to see and hear the Valvedriver cranking it out once more!!!
I didn't really shoot for the spaghetti wedtern sound, but now that you mention it, it totally is! Works for me!
I'm glad you liked the chord changes and leads. Those were a couple of things I wasn't 100% confident with. Especially the leads. I'm really more of a rythym guy, so I tend to feel like my leads are severely kacking. Nit only in content, but structure as well. So hearing from a guitar man that I'm doing alright is encouraging. Thanjs fir that, man!
Yes. This is entirely done with Shreddage. Around the time I first got it, I saw a comment here in a forum post that someone else made, saying that the virtual guitars are good for back up, or accents, but can never be used for a complete track. I took that as a silent challenge. Honestly, though, I'm still not fully satisfied, so expect more where I've pushed myself even harder.
Funny thing is, about the triplet cadence...I didn't even realize I was doing it, so again, more encouraging words that I'm doing something right!
Hey, man, you take care, and thanks again for the positive feedback. It's truly appreciated.
Skol!
Aaron
on Overmyth I - Inception Of The Truth by ValveDriver
on Onward Toward Golgotha by ValveDriver
is not a joke...and it's done and executed brilliantly...just the way
we've all been used to get the lesson from Valve Driver. I hope this
masterpiece forecasts much more to come...Excellent!
Compliments and respect_____Orlando
First of all, thank you for checking this one out. I know it's not exactly your kind of music, so it means a lot that you did.
There is definitely more to come. Some will be like this one, some will be straight up heavy metal, and there's even a few that I don't know what the hell you'd call it. Just....Valvedriver.
Take care, my friend. I hope life is treating you well.
Aaron.
on Onward Toward Golgotha by ValveDriver
I would definitely think industrial when hearing this, though I agree with the dubstep and DnB references. I was interested regarding your reply "It's not the typical industrial BPM, but it dies fit." I've never thought of industrial as having a typical tempo. Did you think that this was too slow, or too fast for typical industrial? Possibly it is the metalhead difference, since those who dig metal the most seem to listen to a different sort of industrial compared to those who are not metalheads. I listen to a good amount of pure industrial which is quite a bit slower than this, and also some which is much faster... so it's hard to judge what's up,
Either way I liked the idea for the song. Some cool riff based passages, and noisy industrial drums. I did find the mixing to be very mono-tone... Like all of the instruments were fighting for the same octave. Possibly this was due to after the fact processing though, I don't know.
Was very fun to hear some new work from you, and I hope to hear more!
Thanks for taking the time to comment. It's always a pleasure to hear from you.
" Did you think that this was too slow, or too fast for typical industrial?"
I thought it was too fast. If I remember correctly, most industrial is usually about 120-130 bpm. This is running at 140. So, it's not a lot faster, but faster than typical.
You make a good point about meatalheads and their preferences towards industrial. I know I tend to lean more towards the Ministry, Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, side. usually that with more guitars than synths.
You also made a very good point about everything fighting for the same octave. I was going for heavy and relentless, but after going back, it could definitely use a little more in the higher range.
"...and I hope to hear more."
There is definitely more in store. I've been on a block for about a year. I've started a lot of tracks, but got nowhere with them. But it seems as if the block is, at the very least, temporarily lifted.
It was good to hear from you again, mister.
Take care.
Aaron.
on Onward Toward Golgotha by ValveDriver
on Onward Toward Golgotha by ValveDriver
Cru Cru Cray Cray!
Thanks, man. Good to be back.
I can't let the place start getting too pretty. Gotta keepvsome grit about.
Laters.
Aaron.
on Onward Toward Golgotha by ValveDriver
on Onward Toward Golgotha by ValveDriver
Just out of sheer curiosity, what is it that you thought I was trying to do? I like to hear different perspectives. What's yours?
Thanks again.
Take care.
V.
on Onward Toward Golgotha by ValveDriver