Damn V, I apologise man, I've been outta touch here lately and done gone and missed the debut of this mighty track! As anticipated, its indeed sum ass kickin tuneage, that only the ValveDriver truly can deliver ! When I saw "Dubstep" I thought yeah, this is gonna be unruly as F@#k! You didn't disappoint. I enjoyed hearing your take on the genre. Well executed blend of cinematic effects and Horror soundtrack. Absolutely dig the bridge there at 2:10 bro. I cranked the bitch to max volume and not only fried some speaker cones but also opened a dimension portal to somewhere I definitely didn't want to explore or allow anything in from. Had to back off a few clicks to close it !
Seriously, its always pleasure to sample your stuff. Thanks for the eargasm. Keep em comin please!!!
No biggie on missing the debut. I've been out for a while too. I understand, life has shit planned that we don't!
" I enjoyed hearing your take on the genre"
I heard some shit one day that called itself "Deep Medi Dubstep." So I checked it out further. It was pretty cool. Super bass driven, and pretty mellow all around. A nice wide, dark atmospheric, minimal kind of deal. Right up my alley as far as electronic goes. (Metal is a whole different story). I liked it quite a bit, and when I started the tune, it kind of just naturally flowed, so I let it. My track isn't as quality as a lot of what I've heard, but, it'll do for now.
" ...but also opened a dimension portal to somewhere I definitely didn't want to explore or allow anything in from."
Yes. I know it well. It's called the inside of my head when left alone for too long.
Anyhow, I'm glad to see you back, and I'm glad you liked the track. There will definitely be more coming. Even with as busy and chaotic as it's been, I'm still finding time to be creative. Not much sometimes, but I make sure to keep doing it.
you paint a dark, evocative picture of something very scary and threatening lurking. It is rich, interesting stuff. you have nice control over that kick drum!! very inspiring work. congrats.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. My work is usually a little darker than most people on Looperman, so it means quite a bit when people still like my work enough to comment on it to let me know they like it.
That kick drum is about 3 different kicks layered, EQ'd and compressed. D3ERILICT had suggested they're too far back in the mix. I may try bringing them up a little. If they sound better, I'll re-upload as an edit.
Thanks again for taking the time to leave some kind words. I appreciate it greatly.
Hello again! I didn't really notice that this was listed as dubstep, and I can hear why you would chose that of course, but I was pleasantly surprised by the creativity you added within that style. I think the bass work is quite good, and the mix sounded nice on my setup. I'm extremely into horror films, except that I HATE all of them that I've seen from the last 4-5 years... and that leads me to the only thing hard for me about this track, it sounds like it would be in a modern horror flick. That's not really anything to do with you or your music, just the bad taste in my mouth from poor film making. Every modern horror movie that is recommended to me turns out to be horrible generic regurge. I think your arrangement works great here, and it gives a very cinematic impression. An enjoyable listen all the way through!
I'm guessing it's the fact that this track has modern music elements in it that makes it seem to you like it's a more modern horror sound. The audio clip is from a mid 80's flick. So, it's definitely from the prime era. Either way, I'm glad you liked it.
I haven't exactly been too thrilled with recent horror flicks either. In my opinion, they started to lose their flavor once CGI replaced all the Tom Savini's out there. Back in the late 70's and early 80's when the budgets were low, the film was grainy, and the lighting was crap is when they were the best. That rawness is what made them scary. Well, that and I was just a little kid back then.
Thanks for listening and also for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it.
I'm not really a horror fan but I love all sounds dark and grimy so this definitely something up one of the many dark alleys I frequent.
Two things I like in particular about this track is that glassy lead synth and the drums. That synth has just the right amount of space and reverb. The percussion sounds are just excellent although I would have put them slightly more forward in the mix. They're sort of shrouded by all the bass and fx. But maybe they work because they're cloaked in the darkness of the sound.
Either way, very well done! I hope you have more like this coming down the pipe because this is a sound I think I need more of.
D3RELICT, How are you? I apologize for such a late reply. Busy days, my friend.
I love the horror. The campier the better, if you ask me. The dark sounds are something that I've always really liked too. I guess it sort of goes hand in hand.
Thanks for the compliment on that glassy lead. It's one of my own creations. I like to create all my tracks from as close to scratch as possible. So hearing that my synths are turning out good makes it worth the work.
You may be absolutely correct about bringing the drums forward. As much as I love the electronic music, my first love is death metal. A genre that's heavily guitar driven. A lot of times, the drums sit further back. I think 35 years of listening to metal kind of programmed my ears to pay more attention to the bass and lead sounds. The next piece I do like this one, I will definitely keep your suggestion in mind. Thank you for the suggestion.
As far as more like this coming down the pipe. I can guarantee you there will be more. I don't know if you've already listened or not, but my "Twas Brillig (Slithy Tove Remix) is kind of similar to this. It's not as dark or horror driven, but it's really bass-y, has a heavy beat, and pretty spacious. Check it out if you haven't already.
Thanks again for the kind words, and suggestion. I'm glad you enjoyed this one.
The V strikes again....I gotta send a link on this one to our oldest Son...he`s in film production & has been into horror since he was a wee boy....you`ve got the whole vibe nailed Aaron.....no hope of mercy here...the wasteland is unforgiving...and what lives there unimaginable....and this is the soundtrack from the neighbourhood that resides at its edge....holy shit...you`re good at it....Ed
Ed, How've you been, Mister? I hope everything is well up there.
If your son is into horror, then he'll probably recognize the vocal sample right away! Maybe even the opening sound effect, as well.
I think it's because of my love for horror since I was just a kid, too, that helps me capture that dark vibe.
"....holy shit...you`re good at it...."
Heheh. Thank you, sir. I take that as a great compliment!
Good to hear from you. I'll be heading over to your page to check out any tracks that I've missed while I've been out. I'm pretty far behind on a few different people.
Thanks again, Ed. It's always a pleasure.
Take care.
Aaron.
I have never seen The Venture Brothers so I don't know if it's suitable supervillain viewing material. I'd expect some shows about world domination to be popular in an evil lair.
I'm also a superhero called Sliderman, with the ability to harness and control exceptional energy through the glass slide on my little finger. I'm surprised we haven't met in a real world crisis situation. Or at least on the superhero/supervillain forums, which tend to be dominated by superhacking heroes and villains.
I could probably vanquish you for good in a face-off but I have to think of your family. And I also want to see you progress even further musically. But I'll take out your Valve Army with the power of my slide if necessary.
"Maybe I can send you a screen shot of my synth set up"
No, don't worry. I don't know if I could reprogram that on my software synths (pretty much all in Reason) though I guess it might be possible to get close. There are shitloads of awesome sounds I'd love to have but I already have loads so it's just a matter of time until I get round to using more. I have so many synth and sample presets that it's boring to go through them. I tend to go on occasional synth preset browsing binges and that's partly why you're almost guaranteed to hear at least a few new sounds in every track I do. I'll just have to stumble upon that warm, malevolent bass sound in my own way.
I appreciate your interesting point about singing being weird. What is weird is people singing what they're saying and it often seems ridiculous but kind of fun when they do it in musicals (ie just break into song, having previously been just talking). I've kind of always wanted to use spoken word samples in my music but also don't want it to be tied to anything anyone has already made (ie the sampled speech) so I just keep it as pure self-created music, containing very few samples (apart from drums).
"At least, I think there's progress"
You're definitely progressing. This one may well be your best produced yet, hence me offering no criticisms, which is rare.
"I don't do the psychedelic drugs anymore, but I do love the music"
I've never done them but have always loved the music. Psychedelic is pretty much my main genre.
All hail the Valve Army!
P.S. I made a nice track bro dedicated to you and I've just finished one dedicated to Evisma, featuring lots of lead bass g.
"I've chosen this track as one of my favourite Looperman tracks in the thread I started a few months ago. "
I remember the thread. Thanks, man! I'm honored.
I don't know if you're familiar or not with Johnny Quest. It's a kids cartoon that came out in the mid 60's. It's about this kid who's dad is a super scientist/adventurer. His dad's "bodyguard" and a couple of his friends, and dog. They go on perilous adventures all over the world. In 2003, a couple of guys came out with The Venture Bros. It's a total animated spoof of Johnny Quest. But not at all for kids. Well, today's kids. It's totally for the kids that aren't kids anymore that grew up watching Johnny. It's full of pop culture references, sarcasm, irony, and just general funny shit. It's entirely a show that supervillains would watch. For inspiration, if nothing else.
"I'm surprised we haven't met in a real world crisis situation"
We may have. Being a supervillain, I do travel a lot. You know, heroist/villainary conventions, Seminars, and whatnot. We may have bumped into each other at one. Stranger things have happened. I suppose, though, I would have remembered noticing the energy levels of my mechanized valve minions draining into your slider, and nothing like that rings a bell.
I would suggest planning your attack on my valve army very carefully. You must take into consideration that my army is made entirely of all things metal, and metal has a tendency to smash glass with the greatest of ease.
"that's partly why you're almost guaranteed to hear at least a few new sounds in every track I do. "
I intentionally do that. I guess, I just like it when artists refer back to their own work. Also, it helps keep a common thread that, if used on the same album, keeps the songs similar enough to carry a flow that's not too eclectic. (that among other things involved)
Thanks for the progression recognition, (Progression recognition. Song title?), sometimes, I second guess my work when it doesn't come out exactly like I had planned.
I've already went and listened to 9,000 years young. I left a mini-review for the time being. I'll get back to do a proper one soon.
My stage name is Mc ScaRy so of course i dig this vibe....ha...but on the real i definatley feel like you captured the vibe you where going for, as the numerous comments like "Creepy" can backup. But i also feel an element of beauty and twisted fate fucked adventure through depression and rage.....but i am bi polor.....good shit
Flonut7, thanks for taking the time to listen and comment. I always appreciate it when people take that time. I'm glad you enjoyed it. "Creepy" is kind of what I do! Stick around for more fun!
So I managed to play this one on speakers and definitely can appreciate very solid bass foundation now. Good synth sounds, particulary I like that kind of drone synth sound pretty much, can't really label it very precisely - it adds some very nice, kind of organic and insect feel. I guess there are many different synth layers in here.
Also that female lead-in element (0:13) is very similar to some of your older works...
Overall this is very fine synth stuff: I find it much more 'morphing' than really 'melodic' in a traditional way (nice arpeggiated kind of 'glassy' sound from about 1:08 and some other places later). When listened first time to this I realized there's actually a harmonic 'bridge' part from 2:10 which can really make this tune even more listenable regarding to the overall structure. Background choirs are nicely placed as well as the man's voice sample.
Not something that I can listen all day for sure, as I basically would preffer something that is full of light and warm haha... but I can appreciate this production too for it's decadent atmosphere! Probably Hans Rudolf Giger will fit perfectly here https://www.pinterest.com/iandenison/hr-giger/
That's a good thing to call it. That's basically, exactly what it is.
The female lead in sounds similar because I've used it in "50 Weight and Body Paint" and also in "Twas Brillig-Slithy Tove". I've always liked it when artists would somehow connect songs, or reuse an element from past works. I guess some would call it recycled, or not creative, but I like to do it.
"Probably Hans Rudolf Giger will fit perfectly here"
Almost 25 years ago, I was an 18 year old artist when I discovered Mr. Giger's work. I went out and bought all of his books and spent countless hours studying his work. I mean, right down to the individual brush strokes. The perspectives, the compositions, the textures, everything. I dissected them fully. He was like a god to me. The worlds he created and the creatures that lived within were completely original and never before seen. He is what inspired me to drive my creativity and push for the originality that no one has ever seen, or with my music, heard.
So, when you say to me that Hans Rudolf Giger would fit perfectly into my song, it is truly one of the greatest compliments I could receive. So, for that, I sincerely thank you.
so nice to see you again. Not much to say on this one... but it's only because that I am listening on the laptop speakers now... anyway I am going to download this track to get much better listening experience and a proper pespective. For now I can only say that the beat you've used here seemed so similar to the one from 'Twas Brilling' and it's remix at first.
Anyway my true name is Aleksander - Alex is an artificial name given to me by a guy which I am woking with currently (not on musical matters at all)
Aleksander, it's good to hrar from you as well. Which do you prefer to be called, Alex, or Aleksander?
Hopefully you had a chance to listen to this on better speakers. Laptop speakers really aren't conducive to any kind of bass-y music. Also, I hope you enjoyed what you heard.
As far as beat similarity goes, it is similar. But the type of song that it is is very similar. Bass driven and heavy. This one is just a lot darker. I really like the slower, heavier driven beats.
Anyhow, thanks for listening, and taking the time to share your thoughts. I alway appreciate it.
Of course you know how to operate a big crane. And you can do it with your mind. That's because you're a superhero/supervillain (depending on your mood) whose power is remotely controlling any valve-based machinery. You can assemble a worldwide Valve Army of machines in seconds. Makes up nicely for not being able to fly, have super strength or mind read.
Early on there's a sexy, breathy lady who then gets dominated by a warm yet malevolent wave of bass. Killer bass sound that I should try to make and, obviously, use.
Your spoken word guy sample is fantastic. You're good at using these samples and this may be your best yet.
Creepy horror lead has a lot of character and weird beauty.
This track sits powerfully without ever really getting too banging. But you could actually dance to it. Great psychedelic drug music.
I don't mind the dubstep snare in this whereas I hate it in a lot of crap dubstep tracks I hear. Probably because everything around it has little to no imagination or finesse. This oozes with both.
2:38 useful little break and then back with enhanced badassery.
4:07 awesome scary scream. What the hell is that?
This somehow feels quite long even though it's only 5 mins. Maybe cos it's dark and oppressive so sort of heavy listening.
Oh cool, you've fixed the ending. Now perfectly leaving us hanging on a puzzle.
Overall: best dubstep track I've heard in a long, long time.
P.S. Maybe you could do me a list sometime of some quality dark dubstep a bit like this. No commercial brostep crap.
Usually, I'm a superhero TO the supervillains. Usually we just hang out in super evil HQ's and eat tuna fish sandwiches and watch The Venture Brothers reruns, though. It's mostly fun, but sometimes it's just boring. That's usually when I start forming up my valvedriven armies and break things.
"Killer bass sound that I should try to make and, obviously, use."
Maybe I can send you a screen shot of my synth set up to give you a starting point. It would probably be easier than trying to type out the "coordinates."
The spoken word samples. I'm not sure why I like them so much better than singing. I guess because the concept of singing is odd to me. I mean, I get why people sing, but the idea of elongating syllables and altering pitch to say the same words you use to talk is a funny concept.
"This track sits powerfully without ever really getting too banging. But you could actually dance to it. Great psychedelic drug music."
Early on, in my attempts at music making, I challenged myself to make bass/beat driven tracks that just kind of steadily roll on, but never get boring. It's still a work in progress. At least, I think there's progress. Also, I love psychedelic drug music. I don't do the psychedelic drugs anymore, but I do love the music.
The 4:07 scream is exactly that. A scream. I found it on Freesound.org and knew I had to use it someday. This just happened to be the debut.
I will work on a dubstep list for you. I have a couple compilation CD's full of it. I'll dig it out and get the artist/track names for you.
...and now I'm off to eat more tuna sandwiches and watch more cartoons. (And by that, I mean eat dinner and get the kids in bed.)
Doncare you call it dubstep this is ValveDriver music...with it's best moments...those bass synths from 0.13 and 3.18 are killer...first class horror...o.k. we get that dubstepish drums but it could work with acoustic or electro tone too...cause those dangerous synth tones bring the high standard...incredible track from the most hazardous mind and brain in here...:-)
If John Wayne Gacy was in the Underworld movies, this would be on the soundtrack.
Wow, dubstep that is actually,..... enjoyable. Sounds more like what I would like to think of as "gettin freaky" music. Something slightly dominating about the feel of this one. Not whips and ball-gags, but burlap and elbows.
1:09 lead line seemed a bit odd at first, but you stuck with it and I really dig it after hearing the progression a few times.
Some dense "digital biscuit batter" moments. Damn, that is some really clear, well mixed badassery from 3:09 on. Awesome when cranked.
The abrupt stop, as mentioned, is all I can say. Friggin awesome.
I paid no mind to the labeled genre. I saw something from you, and hit play.
I'm glad you liked this. I know you're generally not an electronic fan, so it means even more that way.
The lead at 1:09. I was trying to go for that "chime-y" thing they always had in all the themes to the old horror flicks in the late 70's to mid 80's. I'm not sure which flick that originated in, but I know it's heavy in Halloween and Hellraiser.
I'm not exactly sure why the ending came out abrupt. But, Like Static said, it's probably an easy fix. I'll check it out when the house finally gets quiet. I already have a pretty good idea what the problem is. The abrupt ending should be, ahem.....Dead By Dawn.
"I paid no mind to the labeled genre. I saw something from you, and hit play. "
Thanks, man. That tells me I'm doing something right. I appreciate it.
Damn, your valves have been away from the featured tracks page for so long - an epoch, perhaps.
I put this through some rather expensive high-end gear and did a load of tests and all the data show that this is a nice track bro. Double blind experiments with random test subjects produced the same result.
Basically, this is badass proper dubstep - none of the commercial, histrionic crap I usually hear. That ain't the Valve style.
I was looking forward to pressing play on this even though it's classed as dubstep. As it's you, I expected you to deliver. And you really have.
Damn, where do I begin with this? Everything sits quite beautifully and it's all executed with almost flawless skill. Wonderful mix and it's not at all too loud. Only complaint is the very end as it seems to get cut off and not fade to its natural conclusion. Should be easily fixed.
Actually, I'm going to run out of words so I'll give this my customary detailed review another time.
Overall: for this you win a very large, dark and imposing Nice Track Bro trophy. It's going to cost me a small fortune to ship that huge hunk of steel so far and it won't be going through your letterbox. Look out for a huge crane lowering it onto your porch.
Also, in the age that you've been away, I've been extremely busy and have uploaded something like 10 tracks, which is about 2 albums of material for me (hey, one's 17 mins and contains loads of vocals - Old Man Tribal https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/164627).
I'll just suggest one other as Crucethus and myself both think you'll get into it, seeing as we know jazz metal is your favourite genre. Look out for the concrete face smearing middle. You can hardly miss it.
Yo, What's a happnin' bro? It has been quite a while. As I've said in the forum, shit's been busy lately. Big change up at work with hours and crap. Between that, and 3 kids...music has, unfortunately, had to take the back burner for a while.
Yes...tell those random subjects that I'll get their payments in the mail soon, and I appreciate their help.
"Basically, this is badass proper dubstep - none of the commercial, histrionic crap I usually hear. That ain't the Valve style."
I haven't been a dubstep fan for very long. At least, not on the grand scale, anyhow. So, I'm not real fluent, or instinctual in the production. I just know that when I do listen to it, I prefer the more deep, traditional style. I don't mind that big commercial crap on occasion. But it's generally few and far between.
"Actually, I'm going to run out of words ..."
LIES!!!
Well, luckily, I can run big cranes, and love doing so, so when the trophy gets here, I'll be twice as excited! I might even hijack the crane so I can lower it myself.
Later, after the kids are all in bed and I have more time, I will check out your nice tracks, bro. I started to listen to the featured one you have up now. I got about half way through and all hell broke loose on the homefront, and had to put it on pause. I'll be back to it to leave some kind words. Or, just neutral words. Or a pleasant mix of both.
Yo again. One thing that's happening to this mister is that he has just bought an electric cello. Not an instrument I've ever played before but I have wanted to expand my playing for a while and have always wanted a fretless instrument. Not got a bow yet so just plucking for now though fear I'm playing it too much like a bass or guitar. When I put it through my regular heavy distortion setting, it sounds exactly the same to me as my guitar, which is kind of a bit disappointing. Was hoping it would be different.
Anyway, I guess I'll get better at it and getting good at bowing should help differentiate it from guitar/bass playing.
I was wrong about Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun. It's on the fantastic One Of These Days that Gilmour plays awesome pedal steel. STCFTHOTS is not in that concert but I did also watch it in their Pompeii gig. I could never forget the title but had forgotten the piece of music.
I hope you're familiar with the rather interesting hypnotic bass and drums stoner duo Om as STCFTHOTS is pretty much the blueprint for their style. Check that band out if you don't know them. I hope you also gave another recommendation of mine from ages a listen - Genghis Tron. Easily my favourite most extreme band of all time. I don't listen to much extreme screaming music but these guys make a true artform of it. Just listen to their Board Up The House album and be blown away.
Yes, I've now found the version of this track featuring Tumbleweed. No idea why I couldn't find it before. Not looking hard enough, I guess. Must remember to comment.
I've heard you say before that you're somewhat influenced by the seasons and chill more during the winter. I'm pretty sure that no weather or anything else going on in the world or my life has any bearing whatsoever on my music making. That's because I do such far out stuff that I think I get transported to somewhere completely removed from my life and surroundings so I just shut everything out and trip out into other worlds inside my imagination. And then try to create them in nice track bro form.
Yes, get yourself a guit fiddle. Well, if that's what you're comfortable with. Go with a triangle or accordion if they speak more to your soul and feel better to play. After all, a triangle is pretty damn metal, right? Solid piece of metal there.
Finally, I have a new track, featuring shitloads of vocals (not mine) and variety plus some definite badassery, especially in the second half (eg the d'n'b). It's 17.5 mins long so strap in, stuck up on food, drugs, alcohol and maybe a pillow for the long haul psychedelic extravaganza. Made 4 years ago but recently updated and improved. Something quite different for me.
i love how everything developed at the beginning into the main groove at 1:21. very patient, organic development. the solo works and effects are very cool. sometimes I strive for a bit more transparency. that is vague I know but maybe it gives you a clue for further improvements. nice work! Dan
Was thinking about you as I watched PF's excellent The Delicate SOund Of Thunder concert film from 1989. Awesome stuff. Never seen Gilmour play lap steel before but he did endless cool playing on Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun.
I'm still slightly surprised they're your favourite ever band but I don't actually know you so can't really be too surprised. I don't have a favourite band but Floyd are right up there, as are The Beatles, who I believe are easily the greatest and most popular band of all time (and may well always be).
I was actually going to leave a comment on your version of this track featuring Tumbleweed but you have deleted/hidden it. What I was going to say was that after one listen, I really didn't hear his guitar improving it at all. I might be wrong but can't go back to check.
Anyway, I'm, unsurprisingly, very much enjoying listening to this again. What I'd like you try to to do is something you may well without my encouragement. This track shows you're a master of PF emulation but it doesn't have your regular facemelting crunch. So, I want you to try to merge this beautiful chillout style with more of the concrete face smearing. Basically, take those Floyd boys to hell and fry their British butts.
Not quite sure who makes more aggressive Floyd music. No one springs to mind though I guess there are a few.
Anyway, those are my thoughts.
In addition, I have been busy and have some more badass riffage for you:
Sorry for the super late reply. I haven't been on much. That's not just Looperman. I haven't been on line much at all. Due to some crap with an oil pipeline over here, my hours are all kinds of messed up.
I agree, The Delicate SOund Of Thunder truly is awesome stuff. I had seen him play the lap steel before. It's always fun to watch. More fun to listen to, though. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun is one of my favorites of theirs too.
I'm not exactly sure what it is about Pink Floyd that does it for me. But ever since the first time I heard them in 1979 I was hooked. Even as a 5 year old, I knew that was some high caliber music. It's to the point where I don't really listen to their music, as much as I do merge with it. As cheesy an analogy as it is, it's like soaking up the sun.
As far as the Beatles go, I love them to. Not anywhere near as much as I do Floyd, but I do love me some Beatles. Even the "Yeah, Yeah, Yeah," era. Moreso the psychedelic era, though.
I'm not sure why you weren't able to play the other version. It's still right where I left it. Someone else even commented on it after you made this one. (Which I need to reply to, yet.) I don't think I was really looking for a major improvement as much as I was a fun collaboration to give it a different dynamic. I've never done a collaboration before and Ed seemed like the right man for the job. I figured if anyone could work around my lack of proper chord progression and knowledge there of, it would be him.
I do have a couple of new tracks I'm half-assedly working on when I manage to find more than 20 minutes to do so. They aren't the full ValveDriver crunch. But they've got a couple surprising new elements in them. I wouldn't rally say they're Floyd influenced, though.
During the winter months, I tend to slow down and do more subdued, less aggressive pieces. Come late spring when the weather gets nicer, I'll start rolling out the chest kicking brutality that people here have come to know and love. (at least, I think they do.) I've been toying with the idea of picking up a real life guit-fiddle. I've had a couple in the past, I just never learned how to play one proper. So, I could probably fake my way through some riffs long enough to put together a couple of loops until I do learn to fully brutalitize the masses.
I checked out "A Little Bit Of Infinity" earlier today, just before I checked out Evan's new one. Thanks for the link to that, byt the way. I'll check out "Questions Screaming For Answers" soon, and get back to you on both.
Until then, Take it as it comes...leave it as it goes. Whatever the hell that means.
Beginning has a foreboding feel, then the pads kick in and I feel a Floyd vibe kicking in. Some where between Meddle and Dark side this would fit. I also am channelling a bit Pete Bardens as well. The Mix spatially is fantastic my friend. 4:00 the long slow phased pitch bent solo sound is cool. The subtle piano is not to be overlooked as well.
What eighteen said about the wineglass, I think he meant when you rub your fingers around the lip of the glass you get that deep hollow square wave flute sound which is like a pad in some ways and you have a similar sound in there as well. You sir have without a shadow of a doubt upgraded your game with this one. I look forward to hearing your creative output over the next few weeks.
Cru
Pete Bardens, believe it or not, doesn't ring a bell at the moment. Which now is even more incentive to look him up.
Thanks for clearing up the wineglass thing. Once you said that, it made sense. He's probably talking about the higher chime-like sound.
"You sir have without a shadow of a doubt upgraded your game with this one."
Which is a good thing, except now I have to work harder to top it. I guess I'll put out a few "sketchbook" tracks until I find the next one that steps it up.
Thanks for stoppin' by, mister. As always, I enjoy your visits.
Everybody has said all I'm going to say about this track except, it's a
solid piece of work...Almost a chill about the track...
A Graveyard thing comes to mind,*@**## wipe that out of mind right
now...LOL
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
Seriously, its always pleasure to sample your stuff. Thanks for the eargasm. Keep em comin please!!!
" I enjoyed hearing your take on the genre"
I heard some shit one day that called itself "Deep Medi Dubstep." So I checked it out further. It was pretty cool. Super bass driven, and pretty mellow all around. A nice wide, dark atmospheric, minimal kind of deal. Right up my alley as far as electronic goes. (Metal is a whole different story). I liked it quite a bit, and when I started the tune, it kind of just naturally flowed, so I let it. My track isn't as quality as a lot of what I've heard, but, it'll do for now.
" ...but also opened a dimension portal to somewhere I definitely didn't want to explore or allow anything in from."
Yes. I know it well. It's called the inside of my head when left alone for too long.
Anyhow, I'm glad to see you back, and I'm glad you liked the track. There will definitely be more coming. Even with as busy and chaotic as it's been, I'm still finding time to be creative. Not much sometimes, but I make sure to keep doing it.
Thanks again, mister.
Take care.
V.
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I'm glad you enjoyed it. My work is usually a little darker than most people on Looperman, so it means quite a bit when people still like my work enough to comment on it to let me know they like it.
That kick drum is about 3 different kicks layered, EQ'd and compressed. D3ERILICT had suggested they're too far back in the mix. I may try bringing them up a little. If they sound better, I'll re-upload as an edit.
Thanks again for taking the time to leave some kind words. I appreciate it greatly.
Take care.
V.
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I'm guessing it's the fact that this track has modern music elements in it that makes it seem to you like it's a more modern horror sound. The audio clip is from a mid 80's flick. So, it's definitely from the prime era. Either way, I'm glad you liked it.
I haven't exactly been too thrilled with recent horror flicks either. In my opinion, they started to lose their flavor once CGI replaced all the Tom Savini's out there. Back in the late 70's and early 80's when the budgets were low, the film was grainy, and the lighting was crap is when they were the best. That rawness is what made them scary. Well, that and I was just a little kid back then.
Thanks for listening and also for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it.
Take care.
V.
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I'm not really a horror fan but I love all sounds dark and grimy so this definitely something up one of the many dark alleys I frequent.
Two things I like in particular about this track is that glassy lead synth and the drums. That synth has just the right amount of space and reverb. The percussion sounds are just excellent although I would have put them slightly more forward in the mix. They're sort of shrouded by all the bass and fx. But maybe they work because they're cloaked in the darkness of the sound.
Either way, very well done! I hope you have more like this coming down the pipe because this is a sound I think I need more of.
Regards,
DPS
I love the horror. The campier the better, if you ask me. The dark sounds are something that I've always really liked too. I guess it sort of goes hand in hand.
Thanks for the compliment on that glassy lead. It's one of my own creations. I like to create all my tracks from as close to scratch as possible. So hearing that my synths are turning out good makes it worth the work.
You may be absolutely correct about bringing the drums forward. As much as I love the electronic music, my first love is death metal. A genre that's heavily guitar driven. A lot of times, the drums sit further back. I think 35 years of listening to metal kind of programmed my ears to pay more attention to the bass and lead sounds. The next piece I do like this one, I will definitely keep your suggestion in mind. Thank you for the suggestion.
As far as more like this coming down the pipe. I can guarantee you there will be more. I don't know if you've already listened or not, but my "Twas Brillig (Slithy Tove Remix) is kind of similar to this. It's not as dark or horror driven, but it's really bass-y, has a heavy beat, and pretty spacious. Check it out if you haven't already.
Thanks again for the kind words, and suggestion. I'm glad you enjoyed this one.
Take care.
V.
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If your son is into horror, then he'll probably recognize the vocal sample right away! Maybe even the opening sound effect, as well.
I think it's because of my love for horror since I was just a kid, too, that helps me capture that dark vibe.
"....holy shit...you`re good at it...."
Heheh. Thank you, sir. I take that as a great compliment!
Good to hear from you. I'll be heading over to your page to check out any tracks that I've missed while I've been out. I'm pretty far behind on a few different people.
Thanks again, Ed. It's always a pleasure.
Take care.
Aaron.
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I've chosen this track as one of my favourite Looperman tracks in the thread I started a few months ago.
https://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/182742/what-are-your-favourite-tracks-on-looperman
I have never seen The Venture Brothers so I don't know if it's suitable supervillain viewing material. I'd expect some shows about world domination to be popular in an evil lair.
I'm also a superhero called Sliderman, with the ability to harness and control exceptional energy through the glass slide on my little finger. I'm surprised we haven't met in a real world crisis situation. Or at least on the superhero/supervillain forums, which tend to be dominated by superhacking heroes and villains.
I could probably vanquish you for good in a face-off but I have to think of your family. And I also want to see you progress even further musically. But I'll take out your Valve Army with the power of my slide if necessary.
"Maybe I can send you a screen shot of my synth set up"
No, don't worry. I don't know if I could reprogram that on my software synths (pretty much all in Reason) though I guess it might be possible to get close. There are shitloads of awesome sounds I'd love to have but I already have loads so it's just a matter of time until I get round to using more. I have so many synth and sample presets that it's boring to go through them. I tend to go on occasional synth preset browsing binges and that's partly why you're almost guaranteed to hear at least a few new sounds in every track I do. I'll just have to stumble upon that warm, malevolent bass sound in my own way.
I appreciate your interesting point about singing being weird. What is weird is people singing what they're saying and it often seems ridiculous but kind of fun when they do it in musicals (ie just break into song, having previously been just talking). I've kind of always wanted to use spoken word samples in my music but also don't want it to be tied to anything anyone has already made (ie the sampled speech) so I just keep it as pure self-created music, containing very few samples (apart from drums).
"At least, I think there's progress"
You're definitely progressing. This one may well be your best produced yet, hence me offering no criticisms, which is rare.
"I don't do the psychedelic drugs anymore, but I do love the music"
I've never done them but have always loved the music. Psychedelic is pretty much my main genre.
All hail the Valve Army!
P.S. I made a nice track bro dedicated to you and I've just finished one dedicated to Evisma, featuring lots of lead bass g.
9,000 Years Too Young
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/166933
Which Looperbro will be next? No plans right now...
"I've chosen this track as one of my favourite Looperman tracks in the thread I started a few months ago. "
I remember the thread. Thanks, man! I'm honored.
I don't know if you're familiar or not with Johnny Quest. It's a kids cartoon that came out in the mid 60's. It's about this kid who's dad is a super scientist/adventurer. His dad's "bodyguard" and a couple of his friends, and dog. They go on perilous adventures all over the world. In 2003, a couple of guys came out with The Venture Bros. It's a total animated spoof of Johnny Quest. But not at all for kids. Well, today's kids. It's totally for the kids that aren't kids anymore that grew up watching Johnny. It's full of pop culture references, sarcasm, irony, and just general funny shit. It's entirely a show that supervillains would watch. For inspiration, if nothing else.
"I'm surprised we haven't met in a real world crisis situation"
We may have. Being a supervillain, I do travel a lot. You know, heroist/villainary conventions, Seminars, and whatnot. We may have bumped into each other at one. Stranger things have happened. I suppose, though, I would have remembered noticing the energy levels of my mechanized valve minions draining into your slider, and nothing like that rings a bell.
I would suggest planning your attack on my valve army very carefully. You must take into consideration that my army is made entirely of all things metal, and metal has a tendency to smash glass with the greatest of ease.
"that's partly why you're almost guaranteed to hear at least a few new sounds in every track I do. "
I intentionally do that. I guess, I just like it when artists refer back to their own work. Also, it helps keep a common thread that, if used on the same album, keeps the songs similar enough to carry a flow that's not too eclectic. (that among other things involved)
Thanks for the progression recognition, (Progression recognition. Song title?), sometimes, I second guess my work when it doesn't come out exactly like I had planned.
I've already went and listened to 9,000 years young. I left a mini-review for the time being. I'll get back to do a proper one soon.
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Thanks, man. I'm glad you liked it.
Take care.
V.
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Take care
V.
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So I managed to play this one on speakers and definitely can appreciate very solid bass foundation now. Good synth sounds, particulary I like that kind of drone synth sound pretty much, can't really label it very precisely - it adds some very nice, kind of organic and insect feel. I guess there are many different synth layers in here.
Also that female lead-in element (0:13) is very similar to some of your older works...
Overall this is very fine synth stuff: I find it much more 'morphing' than really 'melodic' in a traditional way (nice arpeggiated kind of 'glassy' sound from about 1:08 and some other places later). When listened first time to this I realized there's actually a harmonic 'bridge' part from 2:10 which can really make this tune even more listenable regarding to the overall structure. Background choirs are nicely placed as well as the man's voice sample.
Not something that I can listen all day for sure, as I basically would preffer something that is full of light and warm haha... but I can appreciate this production too for it's decadent atmosphere! Probably Hans Rudolf Giger will fit perfectly here https://www.pinterest.com/iandenison/hr-giger/
Best to you, Alex (which I prefer:)
"I like that kind of drone synth sound"
That's a good thing to call it. That's basically, exactly what it is.
The female lead in sounds similar because I've used it in "50 Weight and Body Paint" and also in "Twas Brillig-Slithy Tove". I've always liked it when artists would somehow connect songs, or reuse an element from past works. I guess some would call it recycled, or not creative, but I like to do it.
"Probably Hans Rudolf Giger will fit perfectly here"
Almost 25 years ago, I was an 18 year old artist when I discovered Mr. Giger's work. I went out and bought all of his books and spent countless hours studying his work. I mean, right down to the individual brush strokes. The perspectives, the compositions, the textures, everything. I dissected them fully. He was like a god to me. The worlds he created and the creatures that lived within were completely original and never before seen. He is what inspired me to drive my creativity and push for the originality that no one has ever seen, or with my music, heard.
So, when you say to me that Hans Rudolf Giger would fit perfectly into my song, it is truly one of the greatest compliments I could receive. So, for that, I sincerely thank you.
Take care, Alex.
Aaron.
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so I will listen later on!
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so nice to see you again. Not much to say on this one... but it's only because that I am listening on the laptop speakers now... anyway I am going to download this track to get much better listening experience and a proper pespective. For now I can only say that the beat you've used here seemed so similar to the one from 'Twas Brilling' and it's remix at first.
Anyway my true name is Aleksander - Alex is an artificial name given to me by a guy which I am woking with currently (not on musical matters at all)
Hopefully you had a chance to listen to this on better speakers. Laptop speakers really aren't conducive to any kind of bass-y music. Also, I hope you enjoyed what you heard.
As far as beat similarity goes, it is similar. But the type of song that it is is very similar. Bass driven and heavy. This one is just a lot darker. I really like the slower, heavier driven beats.
Anyhow, thanks for listening, and taking the time to share your thoughts. I alway appreciate it.
Take care.
V.
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I will fav it for sure.
also your voice adding at 3:18 sec is just epic :)
Nice work, my one of my fav from you its still hard to beat your "Cyclamen Laid In Stone - Say Goodbye".
see ya
I've never played Metroid, so I'm not familiar with the OST. I will have to check into it, though.
That whole vocal sample is pretty cool. I only used about a third of it. There's still plenty more. Maybe on the next track, huh?
Thanks for the kind words, and for the fav, as well!
Take care.
V.
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Of course you know how to operate a big crane. And you can do it with your mind. That's because you're a superhero/supervillain (depending on your mood) whose power is remotely controlling any valve-based machinery. You can assemble a worldwide Valve Army of machines in seconds. Makes up nicely for not being able to fly, have super strength or mind read.
Early on there's a sexy, breathy lady who then gets dominated by a warm yet malevolent wave of bass. Killer bass sound that I should try to make and, obviously, use.
Your spoken word guy sample is fantastic. You're good at using these samples and this may be your best yet.
Creepy horror lead has a lot of character and weird beauty.
This track sits powerfully without ever really getting too banging. But you could actually dance to it. Great psychedelic drug music.
I don't mind the dubstep snare in this whereas I hate it in a lot of crap dubstep tracks I hear. Probably because everything around it has little to no imagination or finesse. This oozes with both.
2:38 useful little break and then back with enhanced badassery.
4:07 awesome scary scream. What the hell is that?
This somehow feels quite long even though it's only 5 mins. Maybe cos it's dark and oppressive so sort of heavy listening.
Oh cool, you've fixed the ending. Now perfectly leaving us hanging on a puzzle.
Overall: best dubstep track I've heard in a long, long time.
P.S. Maybe you could do me a list sometime of some quality dark dubstep a bit like this. No commercial brostep crap.
"Killer bass sound that I should try to make and, obviously, use."
Maybe I can send you a screen shot of my synth set up to give you a starting point. It would probably be easier than trying to type out the "coordinates."
The spoken word samples. I'm not sure why I like them so much better than singing. I guess because the concept of singing is odd to me. I mean, I get why people sing, but the idea of elongating syllables and altering pitch to say the same words you use to talk is a funny concept.
"This track sits powerfully without ever really getting too banging. But you could actually dance to it. Great psychedelic drug music."
Early on, in my attempts at music making, I challenged myself to make bass/beat driven tracks that just kind of steadily roll on, but never get boring. It's still a work in progress. At least, I think there's progress. Also, I love psychedelic drug music. I don't do the psychedelic drugs anymore, but I do love the music.
The 4:07 scream is exactly that. A scream. I found it on Freesound.org and knew I had to use it someday. This just happened to be the debut.
I will work on a dubstep list for you. I have a couple compilation CD's full of it. I'll dig it out and get the artist/track names for you.
...and now I'm off to eat more tuna sandwiches and watch more cartoons. (And by that, I mean eat dinner and get the kids in bed.)
Take care, mister.
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Doncare you call it dubstep this is ValveDriver music...with it's best moments...those bass synths from 0.13 and 3.18 are killer...first class horror...o.k. we get that dubstepish drums but it could work with acoustic or electro tone too...cause those dangerous synth tones bring the high standard...incredible track from the most hazardous mind and brain in here...:-)
Hats off, hope all is well my friend!!!
Danke
I'm glad you liked it. I know you're more of light and upbeat kind of guy, so it means a lot when you like my hazardous work!
Things here are busy. But all around, they're good.
Thanks again, my friend!
Aaron
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Take care.
V.
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Thanks for listening and taking time to comment.
Take care.
V.
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If John Wayne Gacy was in the Underworld movies, this would be on the soundtrack.
Wow, dubstep that is actually,..... enjoyable. Sounds more like what I would like to think of as "gettin freaky" music. Something slightly dominating about the feel of this one. Not whips and ball-gags, but burlap and elbows.
1:09 lead line seemed a bit odd at first, but you stuck with it and I really dig it after hearing the progression a few times.
Some dense "digital biscuit batter" moments. Damn, that is some really clear, well mixed badassery from 3:09 on. Awesome when cranked.
The abrupt stop, as mentioned, is all I can say. Friggin awesome.
I paid no mind to the labeled genre. I saw something from you, and hit play.
Hope all is well with you and yours.
Take 'er sleazy.
Evan
I'm glad you liked this. I know you're generally not an electronic fan, so it means even more that way.
The lead at 1:09. I was trying to go for that "chime-y" thing they always had in all the themes to the old horror flicks in the late 70's to mid 80's. I'm not sure which flick that originated in, but I know it's heavy in Halloween and Hellraiser.
I'm not exactly sure why the ending came out abrupt. But, Like Static said, it's probably an easy fix. I'll check it out when the house finally gets quiet. I already have a pretty good idea what the problem is. The abrupt ending should be, ahem.....Dead By Dawn.
"I paid no mind to the labeled genre. I saw something from you, and hit play. "
Thanks, man. That tells me I'm doing something right. I appreciate it.
If she's sleazy, take 'er twice.
Aaron.
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Damn, your valves have been away from the featured tracks page for so long - an epoch, perhaps.
I put this through some rather expensive high-end gear and did a load of tests and all the data show that this is a nice track bro. Double blind experiments with random test subjects produced the same result.
Basically, this is badass proper dubstep - none of the commercial, histrionic crap I usually hear. That ain't the Valve style.
I was looking forward to pressing play on this even though it's classed as dubstep. As it's you, I expected you to deliver. And you really have.
Damn, where do I begin with this? Everything sits quite beautifully and it's all executed with almost flawless skill. Wonderful mix and it's not at all too loud. Only complaint is the very end as it seems to get cut off and not fade to its natural conclusion. Should be easily fixed.
Actually, I'm going to run out of words so I'll give this my customary detailed review another time.
Overall: for this you win a very large, dark and imposing Nice Track Bro trophy. It's going to cost me a small fortune to ship that huge hunk of steel so far and it won't be going through your letterbox. Look out for a huge crane lowering it onto your porch.
Also, in the age that you've been away, I've been extremely busy and have uploaded something like 10 tracks, which is about 2 albums of material for me (hey, one's 17 mins and contains loads of vocals - Old Man Tribal https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/164627).
I'll just suggest one other as Crucethus and myself both think you'll get into it, seeing as we know jazz metal is your favourite genre. Look out for the concrete face smearing middle. You can hardly miss it.
Emperor Tritone
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/165037
Massive congrats!
Yes...tell those random subjects that I'll get their payments in the mail soon, and I appreciate their help.
"Basically, this is badass proper dubstep - none of the commercial, histrionic crap I usually hear. That ain't the Valve style."
I haven't been a dubstep fan for very long. At least, not on the grand scale, anyhow. So, I'm not real fluent, or instinctual in the production. I just know that when I do listen to it, I prefer the more deep, traditional style. I don't mind that big commercial crap on occasion. But it's generally few and far between.
"Actually, I'm going to run out of words ..."
LIES!!!
Well, luckily, I can run big cranes, and love doing so, so when the trophy gets here, I'll be twice as excited! I might even hijack the crane so I can lower it myself.
Later, after the kids are all in bed and I have more time, I will check out your nice tracks, bro. I started to listen to the featured one you have up now. I got about half way through and all hell broke loose on the homefront, and had to put it on pause. I'll be back to it to leave some kind words. Or, just neutral words. Or a pleasant mix of both.
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Anyway, I guess I'll get better at it and getting good at bowing should help differentiate it from guitar/bass playing.
I was wrong about Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun. It's on the fantastic One Of These Days that Gilmour plays awesome pedal steel. STCFTHOTS is not in that concert but I did also watch it in their Pompeii gig. I could never forget the title but had forgotten the piece of music.
I hope you're familiar with the rather interesting hypnotic bass and drums stoner duo Om as STCFTHOTS is pretty much the blueprint for their style. Check that band out if you don't know them. I hope you also gave another recommendation of mine from ages a listen - Genghis Tron. Easily my favourite most extreme band of all time. I don't listen to much extreme screaming music but these guys make a true artform of it. Just listen to their Board Up The House album and be blown away.
Yes, I've now found the version of this track featuring Tumbleweed. No idea why I couldn't find it before. Not looking hard enough, I guess. Must remember to comment.
I've heard you say before that you're somewhat influenced by the seasons and chill more during the winter. I'm pretty sure that no weather or anything else going on in the world or my life has any bearing whatsoever on my music making. That's because I do such far out stuff that I think I get transported to somewhere completely removed from my life and surroundings so I just shut everything out and trip out into other worlds inside my imagination. And then try to create them in nice track bro form.
Yes, get yourself a guit fiddle. Well, if that's what you're comfortable with. Go with a triangle or accordion if they speak more to your soul and feel better to play. After all, a triangle is pretty damn metal, right? Solid piece of metal there.
Finally, I have a new track, featuring shitloads of vocals (not mine) and variety plus some definite badassery, especially in the second half (eg the d'n'b). It's 17.5 mins long so strap in, stuck up on food, drugs, alcohol and maybe a pillow for the long haul psychedelic extravaganza. Made 4 years ago but recently updated and improved. Something quite different for me.
Old Man Tribal
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/164627
Keep pushing the pistons...
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I'm glad you enjoyed it. I enjoyed making it, too.
I will keep your suggestions in mind, thank you!
Take care.
V.
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Was thinking about you as I watched PF's excellent The Delicate SOund Of Thunder concert film from 1989. Awesome stuff. Never seen Gilmour play lap steel before but he did endless cool playing on Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun.
I'm still slightly surprised they're your favourite ever band but I don't actually know you so can't really be too surprised. I don't have a favourite band but Floyd are right up there, as are The Beatles, who I believe are easily the greatest and most popular band of all time (and may well always be).
I was actually going to leave a comment on your version of this track featuring Tumbleweed but you have deleted/hidden it. What I was going to say was that after one listen, I really didn't hear his guitar improving it at all. I might be wrong but can't go back to check.
Anyway, I'm, unsurprisingly, very much enjoying listening to this again. What I'd like you try to to do is something you may well without my encouragement. This track shows you're a master of PF emulation but it doesn't have your regular facemelting crunch. So, I want you to try to merge this beautiful chillout style with more of the concrete face smearing. Basically, take those Floyd boys to hell and fry their British butts.
Not quite sure who makes more aggressive Floyd music. No one springs to mind though I guess there are a few.
Anyway, those are my thoughts.
In addition, I have been busy and have some more badass riffage for you:
Questions Screaming For Answers
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/163950
and some chillout dance music:
A Little Bit Of Infinity
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/164118
Evisma also has an interesting new, Asian sort of track. Pretty far out stuff that's a bit different for him.
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/163970
Sorry for the super late reply. I haven't been on much. That's not just Looperman. I haven't been on line much at all. Due to some crap with an oil pipeline over here, my hours are all kinds of messed up.
I agree, The Delicate SOund Of Thunder truly is awesome stuff. I had seen him play the lap steel before. It's always fun to watch. More fun to listen to, though. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun is one of my favorites of theirs too.
I'm not exactly sure what it is about Pink Floyd that does it for me. But ever since the first time I heard them in 1979 I was hooked. Even as a 5 year old, I knew that was some high caliber music. It's to the point where I don't really listen to their music, as much as I do merge with it. As cheesy an analogy as it is, it's like soaking up the sun.
As far as the Beatles go, I love them to. Not anywhere near as much as I do Floyd, but I do love me some Beatles. Even the "Yeah, Yeah, Yeah," era. Moreso the psychedelic era, though.
I'm not sure why you weren't able to play the other version. It's still right where I left it. Someone else even commented on it after you made this one. (Which I need to reply to, yet.) I don't think I was really looking for a major improvement as much as I was a fun collaboration to give it a different dynamic. I've never done a collaboration before and Ed seemed like the right man for the job. I figured if anyone could work around my lack of proper chord progression and knowledge there of, it would be him.
I do have a couple of new tracks I'm half-assedly working on when I manage to find more than 20 minutes to do so. They aren't the full ValveDriver crunch. But they've got a couple surprising new elements in them. I wouldn't rally say they're Floyd influenced, though.
During the winter months, I tend to slow down and do more subdued, less aggressive pieces. Come late spring when the weather gets nicer, I'll start rolling out the chest kicking brutality that people here have come to know and love. (at least, I think they do.) I've been toying with the idea of picking up a real life guit-fiddle. I've had a couple in the past, I just never learned how to play one proper. So, I could probably fake my way through some riffs long enough to put together a couple of loops until I do learn to fully brutalitize the masses.
I checked out "A Little Bit Of Infinity" earlier today, just before I checked out Evan's new one. Thanks for the link to that, byt the way. I'll check out "Questions Screaming For Answers" soon, and get back to you on both.
Until then, Take it as it comes...leave it as it goes. Whatever the hell that means.
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What eighteen said about the wineglass, I think he meant when you rub your fingers around the lip of the glass you get that deep hollow square wave flute sound which is like a pad in some ways and you have a similar sound in there as well. You sir have without a shadow of a doubt upgraded your game with this one. I look forward to hearing your creative output over the next few weeks.
Cru
Pete Bardens, believe it or not, doesn't ring a bell at the moment. Which now is even more incentive to look him up.
Thanks for clearing up the wineglass thing. Once you said that, it made sense. He's probably talking about the higher chime-like sound.
"You sir have without a shadow of a doubt upgraded your game with this one."
Which is a good thing, except now I have to work harder to top it. I guess I'll put out a few "sketchbook" tracks until I find the next one that steps it up.
Thanks for stoppin' by, mister. As always, I enjoy your visits.
Take care.
Aaron
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solid piece of work...Almost a chill about the track...
A Graveyard thing comes to mind,*@**## wipe that out of mind right
now...LOL
Cool tough stuff Man...
Peace...TG.
There is a bit of a chill to it, isn't there? That's just how I like 'em.
Thanks for stopping by, and for the kind words.
Take care.
V.
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I've got stuff posted. Some better than others. You're always welcome to listen!
Take care.
V.