Bizarre track,but I believe it works,sounds like something off a jazz fusion album,respect to you for putting it out there mate,who needs traditional harmony these days ha.:)
Honestly, mrroads, I need more traditional harmony! LOL! No - I'm having fun exploring the whole connection thing between musical pitch and the ultraviolet light spectrum. It's an angle anyway. Here is where I start the recipes, if you are curious. http://www.flutopedia.com/sound_color.htm
That is good idea, cru. I think there is something to be said about developing fewer elements in different ways than adding more and more elements. KISS - you know what that stands for?! regards -
Didn´t watch the painting at listen, cause i just wanted to hear it pure and maybe later with colors :) .....
All i hear is a cool work. I am realy in a way in love with this little one but i couldn´t emagination any picture, so i will wonder whatkind of picture you used to get inspitationed to create cool music in this special style.
Sounds like you had fun while work and thats always a good thing.
Hi, Joe. I'm glad you had a chance to listen to this. the picture is by Karsten, a fellow looper, also from Germany. I am still refining this idea of notes relating to colors, and maybe rhythmic relationships to the textures of the painting etc. lots of fun! best regards. Dan
hi again Dan and many thanks for interesting reply. I am glad that you liked Oraison! Around 15 years ago I became totally obsessed with Messiaen when studied music. At a time I had a chance to play several of his organ works, also I still own some amount of CD recordings. I know that Kent Nagano is considered as one of the most outstanding performers of his orchestral works.
It takes some amount of patience to 'be with' regarding to such a long phrasing indeed but the pieces are in fact quite traditional designed melodically and harmonically and therefore very listenable in my opinion. It's a sacred music at the very core, the connection with the visuals present in Cristianity is always very prominent.
so I keep going posting links again haha hope you do not mind...
All the best greetings to you, Alex
Dear Alex,
it has been sometime since I have heard from you and I hope you are well and productive. your comments and insights are always very much appreciated. I look forward to listening to lots of Messiaen, and lots more promenade2239. Regards, Dan
This is super interesting, i think with some live instruments like drums and guitar this could be really epic.
At 2:26 to have some awesome rock chorus would be really cool.
BUT with that said this is awesome on its own really cool funky track :D
hi Dan
the painting attached is very fine, I really like it - especially the sky textures. To me the listening experience outside looperman is always different - being detached from everyday blue and grey also many waveform-shape variations always in green and orange I can focus on the sound itself much better. But seriously the piece you composed here is interesting, fluctuating. It is reminding me of an improvised collective drumming for some reason (with nice electronic additions at places). The first part makes me think of old electonic instruments like Ondes Martenot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRJmJzWibzA or Theremin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5qf9O6c20oprobably probably because of melancholic tone of some melodies present inside that section of your track. What kind of sound engine did you use? Anyway it was very nice!
Best to you, Alex
There is a synth that is about 14 years old called 3xOsc in FL Studio. There is also the FL Studio "minisynth" that I used for a few loops. I also used an external synth that had some following back in the 1970s and 1980s by BOSS called Dr. Synth (DS-230).
Oraison is amazing. It is music for a somewhat more patient generation, I think, than ours, but the build is subtle and amazing. thanks for reminding me about Messiaen. i dated for a while the sister of a modern conductor who became quite known for his recording of messiaen. do you know the conductor Nagano?
Being a watercolor painter I found this quite interesting and a great approach to songwriting. You always do seem to bring thought to the forefront of your music.
Lately I've been mixing the paint on the paper and abstractly letting it happen rather than planning it out and it being structured and rigid. That type of approach can bleed onto music making and allow that to more of a freestyle blending of sounds and timings....
When blending watercolor paints so much comes into play, the paints interact differently, the amount of water, the type of paper... These can be analogous in music aspects I suppose. Your song is such a good example. There is tonal depth, a low heartbeat, humanizing aspect behind to begin with. The part around 45 seconds was cool. Reminded me of sci-fi music, hits on the psychological side of how music can affect people.
All round interesting piece. I listened to this several times, freaked me out a bit like psychological torture music, lol.
there are a lot of analogies to be drawn. I totally agree. For better or worse, finding these techniques to express my reactions to the art in musical terms is what make me tick.
My new girlfriend told me that I should give up the whole thing. She thinks folks don't want to be distracted by music when they are focusing on visual art! She is probably right, but I will press on!
I'm always in favour of that sort of experiments and I think that in this case the connections between sounds and colors were established very well. Good job mate!
if that is the case i'm happy. i've been doing a lot of experimenting lately and stepping outside my comfort zone with new sounds and genres. at the end of the day, it is about being patient and allowing a track come into fullness. I have not had that patience lately and I'm afraid it is evident in the work. Thanks for your comment.
ez midisparks
very harsh audio experimentation you got there
defo captures a raw emotion from the art from karsen
took a few listens which is always a good thing in my opinion
that theremin kinda vibe very eerie
in a good way
klandestyne
Interesting vibe to this song! Very Audiosparks to my ears! When I noticed the title, I was actually thinking of Star Trek, but that's okay, ha ha. The babies are super scary, both in the art and the music, but that's just me. I like the organ sound, it's very prominent in parts. What sort of aspects did Stohgs add to this track? I think it's a really good effort you all joined together in! Fave!
the wolf howl and babies are pure phatkatz. it is the music box melody that is courtesy of designed impression and then later the organ. It seems I did not really write much of this at all!
hey there midi sprks
like this track reminds me on some incidental music in the equalizer dunno why like the atmosphere n tension it creates
kool stuff
off to check more of ur stuff out
peace
klandestyne
this was probably a more successful experiment with my sound and color theories than the one you listened to more recently. Amazing how these tracks mirror one's state of mind. I think I was in a better space during the creation of this one. thanks for you positive feedback my friend.
Mmm hooman meat.... tastes better than tuna (^._.^)/ perfect match up! Looks like they're on a mission, needing more litter for her box maybe? I have a painting of Grumpy cat coming :D def need do some more collabs. Heard from Stoghs, I got some material from him to work with on something.
yea - it would probably end up being something mundane like that (needing more cat litter) for the mission - rather than needing to save the world. I guess at 56 it is time to modify my expectations but i'm not going down easy!
Cthulu lies deep beneath the sea dead but dreaming ;) That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.
That's a character from the H.P.Lovecraft's fiction. It's a big octopus faced monster that lives in the ocean. Metallica's The thing that should not be is about him/(her?) too. I found another band, Catacomb, that writes all songs based on Lovecraft's writings.
That's a good question, Both are alien worlds relatively unexplored by us. I think this has more of an underwater sound, like being weighed down by the crushing pressure of all that water whereas space is nothingness. The sounds echo and fade like passing through a liquid like medium. In space they'd just continue on unobstructed by the nothingness and fade in volume to nothing. I've never been there but in theory anyway ;) I seemed to have missed the last flight with the rest of the Loopers, I'm stowing away on the next one! :D
I am too involved trying to re-learn my German before I go to sleep at night by reading a German-Jewish dictionary to have time for something sensible like discovering Lovecraft. so i am grateful for the tidbits you share. of course the fish in my underwater scene might be eating those tidbits before i get to them.
Dan,
If there were a correct genre listing for this, it would be abstract. You are an artist through and through; not only able to create art for the eyes but also for the ears. Fav'd.
Mark.
yea - maybe abstract would work. i appreciate the encouraging words - but I'm not creating the art for the eyes am I? If anything you are the one that does visual art as well as composition. by the by - look for an email from me relating to your art up on the site. Dan
thanks my friend. glad you enjoyed. it's great to be able to share here on this site. we don't have to be alone so much in this creative process. best regards - Dan
thanks, Orlando. i am thinking to find a softer attack instrument for the short opening. i'm happy if it worked for you with the art. look forward to hearing your new stuff. regards - Dan
Does sound like deep under water near scene of the coral rock and life movement below. Goes with the picture to over at the site. The image is real clear and the colors mix well with the sounds you built to them. The arp synth gives it that extra something, getting real good at these surrounding environments Dan. Has a sense of alert gets one focused and tuned it. How things been? Peace.
i'm really happy if it is working for you with the art. the "arp" was some patch from Harmor synth I think. can't even remember! I am really learning that the initial choices of instruments make a big difference in the success of the track. Initial choices - ha! bit of a lesson for life there! always happy to be hearing from you Dave. re
i'm happy if it was working for you with the art Dank. yea - I pretty much am writing for the art, although I need to push to write longer tracks sometimes. i'm thinking to soften up the instrument at the beginning of this one but was happy with the overall effect. look forward to checking out your newest track. thanks my friend. Dan
Has quite the underwater feeling :D Say Hi to spongebob and Cthulu for me :p Very surreal like floating in the vast beauty under the ocean, Nice one Dan :D
hey Burton. now I have to figure out who/what Cthulu is! I'm happy if this one works with the art a little. Could probably stick some space art with it and it work just as well! Good question what differentiates those two musical atmospheres. Anyway - I am off to check out what have been posting. thanks, man. we need to crank something out soon. Dan
this is some very nice one! probably my favourite from you so far.
I can listen only on laptop speakers now but I really appreciate the higher frequency spectrum of this short experimental sound-scape. It sounds glassy and it's very funky.
For me it is still a bit too short for a proper ambient. Ambient tracks are usually much longer and they evolve slowly. This is always the case in Steve Roach's works, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-SiiwEciFs
but your track is of course a kind of a short illustrative piece and as this it works perfectly fine.
I am listening to the steven roach track right now. it is good to touch base with this master. you are right - this evolution of an true ambient track cannot be rushed. i am glad you had a chance to hear this little underwater track of mine though - it could certainly be refined more but it seems to work on some level. best regards - Dan
there is a theory that relates notes to colors and I've been messing with that. the note values you come up with have +/- cents from the tempered scale we are used to. having said that, I went back and cleaned this one up for a better overall sound. thanks for the comment and look forward to hearing your recent stuff. Dan
Oh snap! Nice mix of sounds. Goes with the painting and the story all the way. Really like what you did at 3:00 and after. That's an cool idea right there. My apologies for being absent from these mixes Dan. Great to hear these ideas still shaping. Thanks for sharing, been visiting the site from time to time, I like how its getting solid on the functions and controls of the site. Good work and entry!
i'm glad you enjoyed it. it is a new approach for me and I hope to refine it. basically choosing a limited note set based on some color scheme in a painting. peace.
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Curious to see how it evolves.
Cru
Dan
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Didn´t watch the painting at listen, cause i just wanted to hear it pure and maybe later with colors :) .....
All i hear is a cool work. I am realy in a way in love with this little one but i couldn´t emagination any picture, so i will wonder whatkind of picture you used to get inspitationed to create cool music in this special style.
Sounds like you had fun while work and thats always a good thing.
stay tuned
joe
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This is extremely colorful music, Messiaen developed his own musical language based on 7 modes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_limited_transposition Oraison is definitely very contemplative, it actually sounds quite similar to the most ethereal section from the organ cycle La Nativité du Seigneur (1935) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5umJQZgQvU It is very characteristic sound for his earlier works.
It takes some amount of patience to 'be with' regarding to such a long phrasing indeed but the pieces are in fact quite traditional designed melodically and harmonically and therefore very listenable in my opinion. It's a sacred music at the very core, the connection with the visuals present in Cristianity is always very prominent.
so I keep going posting links again haha hope you do not mind...
All the best greetings to you, Alex
it has been sometime since I have heard from you and I hope you are well and productive. your comments and insights are always very much appreciated. I look forward to listening to lots of Messiaen, and lots more promenade2239. Regards, Dan
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This is super interesting, i think with some live instruments like drums and guitar this could be really epic.
At 2:26 to have some awesome rock chorus would be really cool.
BUT with that said this is awesome on its own really cool funky track :D
Keep up the experiments!
Hope your well.
Xyilent
I actually wrote a chorus section in last track I did - "metal bass guitar
are you hearing the gothic "chorus of doom" type thing (like they add in movie tracks when the Antichrist has just done something really evil?
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the painting attached is very fine, I really like it - especially the sky textures. To me the listening experience outside looperman is always different - being detached from everyday blue and grey also many waveform-shape variations always in green and orange I can focus on the sound itself much better. But seriously the piece you composed here is interesting, fluctuating. It is reminding me of an improvised collective drumming for some reason (with nice electronic additions at places). The first part makes me think of old electonic instruments like Ondes Martenot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRJmJzWibzA or Theremin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5qf9O6c20oprobably probably because of melancholic tone of some melodies present inside that section of your track. What kind of sound engine did you use? Anyway it was very nice!
Best to you, Alex
Oraison is amazing. It is music for a somewhat more patient generation, I think, than ours, but the build is subtle and amazing. thanks for reminding me about Messiaen. i dated for a while the sister of a modern conductor who became quite known for his recording of messiaen. do you know the conductor Nagano?
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Lately I've been mixing the paint on the paper and abstractly letting it happen rather than planning it out and it being structured and rigid. That type of approach can bleed onto music making and allow that to more of a freestyle blending of sounds and timings....
When blending watercolor paints so much comes into play, the paints interact differently, the amount of water, the type of paper... These can be analogous in music aspects I suppose. Your song is such a good example. There is tonal depth, a low heartbeat, humanizing aspect behind to begin with. The part around 45 seconds was cool. Reminded me of sci-fi music, hits on the psychological side of how music can affect people.
All round interesting piece. I listened to this several times, freaked me out a bit like psychological torture music, lol.
Take care Dan!
Wayne
My new girlfriend told me that I should give up the whole thing. She thinks folks don't want to be distracted by music when they are focusing on visual art! She is probably right, but I will press on!
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This track is very peculiar and interesting mate.
Well done.
Jamid
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Compliments____Orlando
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very harsh audio experimentation you got there
defo captures a raw emotion from the art from karsen
took a few listens which is always a good thing in my opinion
that theremin kinda vibe very eerie
in a good way
klandestyne
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like this track reminds me on some incidental music in the equalizer dunno why like the atmosphere n tension it creates
kool stuff
off to check more of ur stuff out
peace
klandestyne
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That's a character from the H.P.Lovecraft's fiction. It's a big octopus faced monster that lives in the ocean. Metallica's The thing that should not be is about him/(her?) too. I found another band, Catacomb, that writes all songs based on Lovecraft's writings.
That's a good question, Both are alien worlds relatively unexplored by us. I think this has more of an underwater sound, like being weighed down by the crushing pressure of all that water whereas space is nothingness. The sounds echo and fade like passing through a liquid like medium. In space they'd just continue on unobstructed by the nothingness and fade in volume to nothing. I've never been there but in theory anyway ;) I seemed to have missed the last flight with the rest of the Loopers, I'm stowing away on the next one! :D
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If there were a correct genre listing for this, it would be abstract. You are an artist through and through; not only able to create art for the eyes but also for the ears. Fav'd.
Mark.
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I love the sound of the intro.
Very upbeat and beautiful.
Well Done
Jamid
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Compliments______Orlando
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After seeing that painting, listened again and the cohesion is outstanding between the artwork and the music!
That is the essence of your 'artwork' :-)
With appreciation, Danke
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this is some very nice one! probably my favourite from you so far.
I can listen only on laptop speakers now but I really appreciate the higher frequency spectrum of this short experimental sound-scape. It sounds glassy and it's very funky.
For me it is still a bit too short for a proper ambient. Ambient tracks are usually much longer and they evolve slowly. This is always the case in Steve Roach's works, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-SiiwEciFs
but your track is of course a kind of a short illustrative piece and as this it works perfectly fine.
nice little piece!
Best to you, Alex
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Gramo/Neo
there is a theory that relates notes to colors and I've been messing with that. the note values you come up with have +/- cents from the tempered scale we are used to. having said that, I went back and cleaned this one up for a better overall sound. thanks for the comment and look forward to hearing your recent stuff. Dan
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