Brown Heath - DanGoldstein

3rd Sep 2015 11:37 - 11 years ago
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Description : experimenting with tone color and pitch variation. trying to create connections between sounds and colors.

Comments (8)

If you have time take a listen and give DanGoldstein some feedback.

joecramer
joecramer 9th Sep 2015 14:40 - 11 years ago
Nice one Midiaparks!

Didn´t watch the painting at listen, cause i just wanted to hear it pure and maybe later with colors :) .....
All i hear is a cool work. I am realy in a way in love with this little one but i couldn´t emagination any picture, so i will wonder whatkind of picture you used to get inspitationed to create cool music in this special style.

Sounds like you had fun while work and thats always a good thing.

stay tuned
joe
DanGoldstein
DanGoldstein replied 12th Sep 2015 - 11 years ago
Hi, Joe. I'm glad you had a chance to listen to this. the picture is by Karsten, a fellow looper, also from Germany. I am still refining this idea of notes relating to colors, and maybe rhythmic relationships to the textures of the painting etc. lots of fun! best regards. Dan
promenade2239
promenade2239 8th Sep 2015 17:19 - 11 years ago
hi again Dan and many thanks for interesting reply. I am glad that you liked Oraison! Around 15 years ago I became totally obsessed with Messiaen when studied music. At a time I had a chance to play several of his organ works, also I still own some amount of CD recordings. I know that Kent Nagano is considered as one of the most outstanding performers of his orchestral works.

This is extremely colorful music, Messiaen developed his own musical language based on 7 modes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_limited_transposition Oraison is definitely very contemplative, it actually sounds quite similar to the most ethereal section from the organ cycle La Nativité du Seigneur (1935) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5umJQZgQvU It is very characteristic sound for his earlier works.

It takes some amount of patience to 'be with' regarding to such a long phrasing indeed but the pieces are in fact quite traditional designed melodically and harmonically and therefore very listenable in my opinion. It's a sacred music at the very core, the connection with the visuals present in Cristianity is always very prominent.

so I keep going posting links again haha hope you do not mind...
All the best greetings to you, Alex
DanGoldstein
DanGoldstein replied 4th Apr 2016 - 10 years ago
Dear Alex,
it has been sometime since I have heard from you and I hope you are well and productive. your comments and insights are always very much appreciated. I look forward to listening to lots of Messiaen, and lots more promenade2239. Regards, Dan
XyIlent
XyIlent 7th Sep 2015 20:38 - 11 years ago
Hey midi :D

This is super interesting, i think with some live instruments like drums and guitar this could be really epic.
At 2:26 to have some awesome rock chorus would be really cool.
BUT with that said this is awesome on its own really cool funky track :D

Keep up the experiments!

Hope your well.

Xyilent
DanGoldstein
DanGoldstein replied 7th Sep 2015 - 11 years ago
i was actually imagining some musicians grooving on these beats. at the 2:26 drop there is an opportunity still, there - definitely.

I actually wrote a chorus section in last track I did - "metal bass guitar

are you hearing the gothic "chorus of doom" type thing (like they add in movie tracks when the Antichrist has just done something really evil?
promenade2239
promenade2239 7th Sep 2015 18:33 - 11 years ago
hi Dan
the painting attached is very fine, I really like it - especially the sky textures. To me the listening experience outside looperman is always different - being detached from everyday blue and grey also many waveform-shape variations always in green and orange I can focus on the sound itself much better. But seriously the piece you composed here is interesting, fluctuating. It is reminding me of an improvised collective drumming for some reason (with nice electronic additions at places). The first part makes me think of old electonic instruments like Ondes Martenot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRJmJzWibzA or Theremin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5qf9O6c20oprobably probably because of melancholic tone of some melodies present inside that section of your track. What kind of sound engine did you use? Anyway it was very nice!
Best to you, Alex
DanGoldstein
DanGoldstein replied 7th Sep 2015 - 11 years ago
There is a synth that is about 14 years old called 3xOsc in FL Studio. There is also the FL Studio "minisynth" that I used for a few loops. I also used an external synth that had some following back in the 1970s and 1980s by BOSS called Dr. Synth (DS-230).

Oraison is amazing. It is music for a somewhat more patient generation, I think, than ours, but the build is subtle and amazing. thanks for reminding me about Messiaen. i dated for a while the sister of a modern conductor who became quite known for his recording of messiaen. do you know the conductor Nagano?
theHumps
theHumps 5th Sep 2015 09:29 - 11 years ago
Being a watercolor painter I found this quite interesting and a great approach to songwriting. You always do seem to bring thought to the forefront of your music.

Lately I've been mixing the paint on the paper and abstractly letting it happen rather than planning it out and it being structured and rigid. That type of approach can bleed onto music making and allow that to more of a freestyle blending of sounds and timings....

When blending watercolor paints so much comes into play, the paints interact differently, the amount of water, the type of paper... These can be analogous in music aspects I suppose. Your song is such a good example. There is tonal depth, a low heartbeat, humanizing aspect behind to begin with. The part around 45 seconds was cool. Reminded me of sci-fi music, hits on the psychological side of how music can affect people.

All round interesting piece. I listened to this several times, freaked me out a bit like psychological torture music, lol.

Take care Dan!

Wayne
DanGoldstein
DanGoldstein replied 6th Sep 2015 - 11 years ago
there are a lot of analogies to be drawn. I totally agree. For better or worse, finding these techniques to express my reactions to the art in musical terms is what make me tick.

My new girlfriend told me that I should give up the whole thing. She thinks folks don't want to be distracted by music when they are focusing on visual art! She is probably right, but I will press on!
DijamMusic
DijamMusic 5th Sep 2015 00:16 - 11 years ago
Hey Dan,
This track is very peculiar and interesting mate.
Well done.
Jamid
DanGoldstein
DanGoldstein replied 6th Sep 2015 - 11 years ago
thanks for your comment, Jamid. Hopefully I can clean it up over next few days and add a decent ending. appreciate your support. Dan
Orlando51
Orlando51 4th Sep 2015 14:29 - 11 years ago
I'm always in favour of that sort of experiments and I think that in this case the connections between sounds and colors were established very well. Good job mate!

Compliments____Orlando
DanGoldstein
DanGoldstein replied 7th Sep 2015 - 11 years ago
if that is the case i'm happy. i've been doing a lot of experimenting lately and stepping outside my comfort zone with new sounds and genres. at the end of the day, it is about being patient and allowing a track come into fullness. I have not had that patience lately and I'm afraid it is evident in the work. Thanks for your comment.
Klandestyne
Klandestyne 3rd Sep 2015 13:01 - 11 years ago
ez midisparks
very harsh audio experimentation you got there
defo captures a raw emotion from the art from karsen
took a few listens which is always a good thing in my opinion
that theremin kinda vibe very eerie
in a good way
klandestyne
DanGoldstein
DanGoldstein replied 6th Sep 2015 - 11 years ago
thanks, klandestyne. needs refinement but hopefully we have a good one here.

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