joecramer
Let there be music
Hamburg, Germany
Joined : 23rd May 2014 - 11 years ago
Last Online : 26th May 2024 - 1 year ago
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on Apocalypse 2015 - revolta2 version by joecramer
This sounds very soundtrack-ish. Great work Joe!
RW
Thanks a lot.
In a way it is a soundtrack - the soundtrack for the beginning of the end of the world :)
Nice to know that you like it.
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joe
on Apocalypse 2015 - revolta2 version by joecramer
Ah yes - Laibach. That's one of the groups I was thinking of but I couldn't remember their name.
Good to hear the apocalypse won't be happening in 2015. Let's put it off until at least 2016. I've actually done a huge amount of music work in the last two years. I've made a whole long album in just the last two months.
"i tryed to sound so much german that i could"
Yes, you did perfectly! Could not be more German.
Waiting two minutes for the vocal works fine because your ambient vibe and simple groove is easy to listen to and, while you're listening, it sounds like it's probably going to be an instrumental anyway so I'm not waiting for and expecting a vocal (as with a rock 'n' roll song).
I think what I wrote before was not clear. I wasn't saying that I would play this track for other people. What I meant was that I would not mind if I went round someone's house and they played this track, perhaps while we were talking or something. There's a lot of music that I choose not to listen to but son't mind hearing eg at someone's house or at a club or in a shop etc.
Best of luck with any more mixing and mastering. The track doesn't sound like it needs much more work.
In a way it is funny how much Laibach sounds, for an english ear, like a german band ......
Nice to know that you think it is already a good mix/master.
And i would love it, if you would listen to this song anywhere outside of looperman :)
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joe
on Apocalypse 2015 - revolta2 version by joecramer
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Nice to know that you like the vst work i done here.
I think i will do realy another one ..... lets see
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joe
on Apocalypse 2015 - revolta2 version by joecramer
From an English perspective (mine) this is so very, very German. That may sound extremely obvious as you're singing in German but I'm also talking about the music. Very minimalist and perhaps like some of the German bands from the 70s/80s who I don't listen to eg Amon Duul, Tangerine Dream. I'm not quite sure as I don't listen to those sorts of groups.
It's a cool, simple groove. Not really that dark - just melancholy. All the synth work sounds good and I like how you wait 2 mins to bring in the vocal. It's really very chilled out.
I wouldn't choose to llisten to this at home but would be happy for someone else to put it on. Also good soundtrack music. And it's well produced so congratulations again.
Finally, is it really the acpocalypse in 2015? If so, I better finish some of my many albums as that will probably be quite difficult in a post-apocalyptic world (maybe no electricity).
Take care.
Ok, first - NO, the apocalypse will not come 2015! :) I´m sure. But if it brings you to work more on finishing music things ..... :)
I do this apocalypse thing since 1985/86 and there are a few difrent versions out - The first version was just - Apocalypse - all others get a year in the name, the year when i made it.....
This "german" thing is intresting, cause when i listen to this version, i have more stuff from the 80´s in mind like Laibach and so but maybe the influens of this "older" stuff is sooooo big :) but i am not a real big fan of them (to slowly for me when i was young). That a german voice sounds german, ok sure and in this special case i tryed to sound so much german that i could. So you got that point and thats cool! Same with this "dark" thing, i just wrote - it is a bit dark .... a (deep) melancholic feeling goes for the most into the "dark" direction .....
I didn´t go for this groove in the beginning but when i found that sound while playing with the vst, i know i had to use it. Sometimes (thats my opinion) music needs some time to come to the point where the vocals should start. And here the music just needs this 2 minutes to go there.
Nice to hear that you would play this for other people but you should maybe wait a little with that, cause this version isnt mixed and masterd realy. And i think i should do that, not for this comp thing but just for that track himself.
So thanks again for all the time you spend, until now, with listen to my music and all the friendly things and opinions you always write.
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joe
on Apocalypse 2015 - revolta2 version by joecramer
Cru
what a friendly comment. Nice to know that you believe it captures the Zeitgeist of a going down world :)
Cool that you think the vocals work with the music and the idea of the song. Sure it is dark cause it must be dark at the end of the world :)
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joe
on Apocalypse 2015 - revolta2 version by joecramer
That was right the point i try to go to. Make a track with just 1 vst and let it sound mostly so that it fits to the idea behind.
Nice that you think it works in a way.
-When i started making music (at least 35 years ago) we did all our music just with 1 cheap yamaha keyboard (i forgot the name of it, but it was a mini key one, with a very easy ADSR thing) and it works well) So i think it isn´t to hard to do a track just with just 1 vst ......
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joe
on Apocalypse 2015 - revolta2 version by joecramer
Nice that you take yourself the time to write a comment to this little piece of music.
I think i will do a rework of this track, cause i had a lot of audio problems and could not realy "play" the music, just programming it.
So lets see how it will sound then :)
In a way i can understand your opinion on the SFX but on the other side, i love it right the way it is ..... mmmmm but maybe it is a bit to much.
Thanks a lot for your friendly words
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joe
on Apocalypse 2015 - revolta2 version by joecramer
nice take on one vst contest and songwriting. alex
Nice to here that you like the songwriting.
And right now, i am on a point where i can make realy much easyer/better music then i done it here :),
cause i checked out all my midi/audio/asio/daw/win8.1/vst problems and fixed them :)
.... NOW I CAN PLAY AND LISTEN at the same time and also can change things while playing ..... jippy :)
If i see or better say listen to the other tracks in this comp/contest, then i think i should do a real mastering and so on ;) cause noone does a real only one vst thing
Thanks for your nice comment Alex, i let me watch, at least 30 minutes, old Ingmar Bergman movies. (this new internet age is a real cool thing)
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
I had almost the same feelings on my side. Cool :)
Who knows, maybe one of this advanced, ancient civilizations send it, in magic waves, into my mind.
thanks a lot for your friendly words
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joe
on Speed Xmas NoTimeAtAllSong by joecramer
:) We had a lot of fun makeing it. And it was recorded in parts in Padaborn and at my hometown. Never more then 2 "worked" together at the same time. But it is still some of my personal most loved song to xmas time ....
If you like to know how it sounded when it mostly realy began, then you should follow this link. It brings you 30 years back in time. My/our real first band - the tacktless once/die Tacktlosen - in a shed somewhere deep in the german north. Let it be the 3rd time we 3 played together, maybe it was the 2nd. You will hear a song about a guy, with black shoes, black glasses, black gloves, on his way to "his" girl, cause she cant see his black shoes ......
very raw, but very cool stuff and realy 30 years old.
http://www.reverbnation.com/joecramer/song/5954224-die-taktlosen-with-joe-cramer-neonlich
If you scroll thw side down you will find 3 more -tacktless ones/tacktlosen- songs ...maybe 29 years old :)
And btw, i dont believe that you did it realy bader then me or i better then you - we all just do - and i just tryed to do music so the way, i had the most fun. Fun is a good power for good things like good music :)
Thanks again for the comment
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
Thank you a lot for your very kind and gentle words.
Nice to know that you enjoyed the listen.
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
So maybe it sounds like Rammstein!
And because it is so, so you can blame me for sure for that :)
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
Eno and Bowie - big boots to walk in ......
Nice to know that you like the sounds i made and found it in a way creative and intresting. Being intresting is the point. All else ...... :)
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
No, you don't need to take pills for making music. No unless you've got some particular medical problem.
Interesting to hear about your working method. I'm similar as I also try to go with the things that I feel really inspire me. My simple belief is that good parts that I really enjoy are most likely to inspire other good parts and riffs and new ideas. But if I only think something is OK/average, I won't really care much about it and probably won't be able to come up with anything to improve it.
So, I think it's good that you gave up on the FR direction when you felt the power of that Anubis drum groove.
One idea is that if you doubled the tempo of the Anubis beat, it would be much more suitable for doing an FR track. So, maybe a fast, tribal dance track. You could try doing that and seeing what happens.
I find that the same good groove at either half or double tempo (half if it's already fast, double if it's slow) makes me play other instruments in a different way. That's one reason I have lots of double time/half time tempo changes in my tracks. The same riff usually sounds good on top of a fast or slow groove.
Just a few ideas for you.
I will check out your other Anubis track.
Maybe he will return to Looperman sometime. He is a talented musician/producer and also seems to love a lot of my music.
Itz someting that is almost 16 years old - a special mix, made from two life tape recorded rebirth session from 1999.
Soundquality could sure much better but it is much closer to FR then my music sounds normaly. If FR not made music then already, then he makes maybe music in my "older" style :) ???
This is also a kind of a StaticNomad track :) cause it is over 20 minutes long.
Also it is in a way very close to this tribes ......
easy to get as download from lastfm
looperman has no space for this length
http://www.lastfm.de/music/M-M-M/the+rebirth+of+M-M-M
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
The sound-image of your track reminded me of SeriousSam PC game soundtrack. Don't ask me what version - I played it over 10 years ago. Truly I was never into an alien-vampire kind of thing ever but this one opens up a space to many possible interpretations for sure!
If you found my comment far too ambivalent do not worry - I really enjoyed this chilled music! Best, Alex
Music is ambivalent itself and needs ambivalent comments.
I think so, maybe i am wrong.
But i love pictures and feelings and emotions to talk and or write over music. That gives me so much more then a "technical ok" or else.
Nice to hear that you like it and that you had "things" in mind while listen :)
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
Well, it was a good guess that Anubis would probably like this.Surely he must do if it's his main beat, right? I have not seen him on the site for a long time. Maybe you should send him a message that you used his beat to make this track.
Even though it is a great beat you could do so many things with, the synths you have added are still good. I'm thinking it coukld still be a decent track if you removed the Anubis beat and made it just a pure ambient thing. I'm not suggesting you do that, just making a point about the other synth work.
If you want to do an FR track, you should definitely go for a faster tempo! When I pressed play, I thought this was going to be at least 120 BPM, probably more like 140. But this is only something like 90.
"Good to know that i not waist your time to much"
No, you didn't waste my time at all.
Good luck with any other tracks in the style of other people and I hope they all come out as different and good as this one.
I already done a track with some more sounds from Anubis
-the twelfe elf-
http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/156929
and i tryed to tell him ..... but i never hear any or see him here. Maybe i try it again.
When i sit down and start with doing a FR track, i used some samples to get into the right mood. Fast beats, drums and so. At the moment where i make the first test with some of the synth´s i played and the Anubis beat, it was, for me, absolut clear that i dont will make a FR track BUT all starts realy with the will to do so.
I have a little hyper activity syndrom thing and have a problem to concentrate me realy hard on things i dont like/love 100%. If i do in between something that i love more, then my concentration went to 110% to the more loved thing. So there is only one way to change that. I could take some pills for a better focus. (but i never done that for makeing music befor, cause normaly i can hold the focus perfect on my music) ......
I love the way my brain works :)
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
Big congratulations on coming up with this track. It doesn't sound like FR's stuff but that's absolutely fine. I thought some people might try to do somethng in the style of another Looper and the track not sound anything like them but still sound good. It was just a fun idea that I thought might inspire some people.
I do like this slow, tribal vibe. It has a lot of space in it so works well as deep chillout music.
I like your intro melody and then we get the big main beat. I think you could make about a million good tracks out of that beat!
This is actual original trance - not the modern electronic dance genre known by the same name. This is much closer to ancient tribal music than hands-in-the-air drug music. Definite dream state here.
Someone on the site who will definitely like this is Anubis as he makes cinematic music quite close to this.
I like all your synth sounds and this has a good length for a hypnotic piece of music. It doesn't change much but that's fine for dream music.
Very well done!
First, what a nice and friendly comment. Thanks for all the time you give to all this music.
I tryed to make a Free Radical track and failed. But maybe it sounds like a Anubis track. And if i told you i tryed to do a Anubis track then you believed that i done it realy well. But that would be a lie and i try to not to do :)
There is an easy point why this sounds so cool and deep and Anubis would (hopefully/maybe)like it - the main beat is from Anubis. I realy forgoten to tell that in the discription and changed that :)
Good to know that i not waist your time to much :)
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
Sitting in a house on a hill, and below all around you is nothing
but miles and mile of deep dark jungle...
From there it's ok, cause you've got your honey with you and a
nice bottle wine, made from local grapes...And your just about
ready to get it on... :-)
Cool track Guys...
Peace...TG.
A good wine for a stressless moment ......
Yeah thats always a good thing,
Something endless for the eys and the mind and for the feeling of "being alife"
And with the right person around, the univers is on your side :)
Nice to know that you enjoy the listen.
Thanks for your nice comment TG
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
Cru
Nice to hear that you like this tune.
Alot of dynamic of this one goes to Anubis. I used only 1 sample for this one but it is realy tribellike stuff that he pruduced.
I had a lot of fun doing this one, cause i didnd used my midi keys for longer times and i used my old DD-11 just to see how it works with power drums.
Thanks for youre nice and friendly words Cru
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
Good to know that you like it.
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joe
on The alien tribes connection - Dream Dancer by joecramer
Humans are also just another native alien tribe, waiting a while on planets face, for there next move into the deep dark space .......
I think there is to much time and to much space, for having stupid wars in univers.
It is a love conection on an emotional level. It moves mutch faster then light. It looks like love is a kind of a space travel craft, that needs no time to cross the univers. Just a dance, or maybe only a dance, can send you anywhere you want to go to :)
Nice to hear that you like it
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joe
on Speed Xmas NoTimeAtAllSong by joecramer
Always good to hear that people like it
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joe
on Speed Xmas NoTimeAtAllSong by joecramer
Merry xmas!
Wayne
Nice to hear that i could make youre x-mas morning.
Have a nice x-mas Wayne
Thanks for the comment
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joe
on Speed Xmas NoTimeAtAllSong by joecramer
button for that alone:)As for the rest of the track I hardly recognize anything in terms of Christmas stuff, but it's quite good fun to listen anyway!:)
Thanks alot for sharing and happy Christmas holidays...:)
Orlando
Nice that you got the "letz doit just for fun" thing.
and right now i have to listen to this "normal" x-mas music in pseudo clasic style - wuha - lol
thanks for this nice comment and
have a very nice x-mas my friend
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joe
on Gedanken - thoughts by joecramer
maybe its a bit like this asian or african faces thing. if you never seen much of them and never stay much in touch with them you think always they look same.
but if you like rammstein and you think it sounds like rammstein and you like it therefor, then its ok that it sounds like rammstein :)
i dont think it sounds like them
but i like rammstein, so its realy ok for me
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joe