hi, I like the special colour you achieved here and some old-styled manner in your voice. This is very nice. Is it inspired by some specific songs or style?
Anyway I really enjoyed your song - I had that impression something was missing on this competition track and you filled it up very well.
Very nice work, Alex
I am happy that you enjoyed the listen and found it nice.
No, this isnt inspired by someone special. In fakt it is realy made just for (or maybe by) this minimal master of SMB´s track that i made. I had the words already in my mind when i done the last version of the mastering comp.
Cool to hear that you believe that this filled the comp track very well.
So thanks for your friendly words and the time you spent.
Hahaha! This is great!
It has this slippery, smoshy feeling over the lyris and all over your voice - as there should be in a love song.
I think your vox could benefit from having a little more distance, at the moment it's very close to the ear somehow. Maybe a touch of reverb and delay and maybe layering it a few times also in between the chorus.
The instrumental it self is one of my favourites here.
Very impressive effort you've made here! To me, this has a very minimal techno vibe to it. With just some subtle changes throughout, it would sound more finished and enticing, but I love it as is. The stereo toms are quite impressive, and I can hear why they were inspiring to you. I also like renewing quite old songs as something new and different, so I see where you are coming from. Very hypnotic and enjoyable electronic song, and your voice is quite good! Keep at it! Fave!
This is (just) a real raw file. Often i like this raw things more then the finished work. Thats one of the reason why i need so long to do things new :)
This toms are very cool and in my ears they cryed for some vocals. So i done it.
Nice to hear that you enjoyed the listen and give the track a fav.
There are a lot of versions out right now and that you think that my little minimal version ist beautiful, in your eys/ears, that is realy nice to hear.
I spent a lot of time into this comp and it is a good feeling to see that, at least for some people, i done it in a way good.
So thanks a lot for your friendly words and the time you spent.
I've read some of the other comments about this track being an updated version, I don't know what they sounded like, but if they sounded anything like this one your doing an excellent job. Kudos! FT
Nice to her that you think this is in a way exellent.
I am not realy into this mastering thing, so it is realy nice to hear that others think i done it good ......
I post all versions where i believed from that they are in a way cool on looperman. So if you wanna listen where this last version comes from you could do that.
Thanks for your comment.
Nice that you enjoy the listen.
And Kraftwerk, oh yeah, i think i heard almost all they done and i realy love some of there stuff very very much.
But i realy had no Kraftwerk feeling on this track befor you asked. Thats intressting.
Thought it was really cool how you did the break at 3:12, my favorite edit of that specific piece. The ending that falls after is really good, the mix's overall progress is getting more interesting as it goes. Heard a couple of your takes on this project and agree that this is the most interest so far. No suggestions I have in mind, thanks for sharing, Peace.
Thanks for your gentle comment.
I just tryed to do it so good as it is/was posible for me, at that point.
-Heard a couple of your takes on this project and agree that this is the most interest so far.-
This -so far- sets me a little under pressure :)
Lets see where it all ends.
And let me say that it is real friendly from you, that you spent so much time into listening to all this diffrent versions that are out there in this comp and give almost everyone some comments. Thanks a lot for that!
Hey Joe, I would have to agree with Orlando and say that this is your best effort to date. The approach was different and I think the mix is really nice and crisp. I think the harmonic dissonance that Alex mentions is actually in the stems itself and was intentional. The one electric guitar is playing Da minor progression while the acoustic is playing a Dmajor. It sounds like a wrong note, but was intentional. To eliminate it, you could remove the third note in the Dminor chord, or pitch it up a half step to a major. My suggestion would be to remove the note each time that guitar plays the Dminor. Other than that, this is a stellar job by you. Thanks for the interest and for working so hard on this. I hope all is well.
You seem to run in the same crowd that I find myself in. I was attracted to your German accent and found this to be a nice little track. I can't understand German but it is distinctive. I would like you to sing a song of my lyrics in English with your accent. We'll need some music and I suggest some dance beat that pulsates. The words I have so far are "Rock and Roll Reiner" I will develop it more if you are interested.
This is quite a bit of improvement over previous versions, particulary in the stereo field (if my ears don't fool me^^)
and in the end of the day this is more than solid entry and probably among the best ones.
Sounds good to me :D I love the way sounds added to the music really tell the story and add a more atmosphere. That rattle at the beginning made me think it was going to be creepy then the music started and it got happy :D Check out freesound.org for lots of free sound samples :D
Cool that you had this creepy-happy feeling with the sound, cause i tryed to tell a -got lost (in the jungle), find the right way- story with the beginning.
So it looks like it worked a bit.
hi Joe, I am much enjoying your version - its quite original and different from your last one. I can only say that at some point at 2:24 there is some harmonic dissonance between rhythm guitar (or synth, I dont know exactly - the sound introduced from 2:00) and the piano: maybe its just too much reverb provided from the original samples that enhanced during the processing produce some dissonant frequences... It's still too 'cinematic' for me... the low strings in the last section are really hard to recognize (as well as flutes - if there are any!...). But still I think this version is the best for me so far (I know only a few takes for now). I intend also to do mine version, for now I have some song based on the brass and percs. from this competition samples - you may check it if you like.
Really nice work on this one.
Greetings,
Alex
Hey Alex,
nice to hear that you enjoyed the listening.
I tryed to hear the dissonanses you wrote from but i cant get them. That may be because i have realy only cheap stuff on my side (call me mister low tech himself) and or its because i am an old man, with old ears, that listen to long to, too loud and often to bad, music :) i dont know.
I can hear the strings well but that may be because i listen to them so often while mastering. The woodwind, i would say, is the loudest sample in the 3rd part.
I will try to listen abit closer and a few times more, maybe i will get where you talking about.
Thanks for your friendly words, the help and your time.
Hey Joe, really creative work here. I haven't heard the original shanty, but I know you have put a really cool modern tilt to it and it works really well. Like I said, it isn't easy to take a song that is over 80 years old and make it work in today's market.
Outstanding effort. It is a little bit long, but what the heck, it is a shanty. They are supposed to be long :)
I dont know if it is the first one of a genre :) who knows
The point is - i didnd start to do this track.
I just listen to some loops and by that i found this stereo toms. I liked the sound and the hypnotic feeling and so i just taked a mic and maked some noise to it. It ends on this madagaskar song and i loved the beat and this sad lyrics.
So i just sang the lyrics a few times and later i tryed to make some sounds around. AND a bad thing happend. I didnt hit the notes cause i didnt had any while singing. So only on the main text the notes fits and on the refrain it sounded very bad. So i just take it as it was.
The song is 7 parts long and normaly between all come a refrain. mostly 2 times. i redused that but you are right, it is realy long .......
I realy felt in love to this song and i believe i will do a "real" track with it. And then there will be more sounds and things around. Cause this dieing crew thing and the ocean and the sad feelings .... there can be so much sound
Hey Joe,
langsam wird ein schuh draus es fängt an mich mitzunehmen,der gesang kommt laut und klar die melodie hakt ein,es stört ein wenig das der gesang wie eingeblendet wirkt du benutzt doch kein noise gate oder ??versuch doch mal das micro offen zu lassen das macht die sache natürlicher aber das ist nur meine meinung du weißt das ich ungerne kritisiere,mach weiter so,DRO
Eins meiner Problem ist es, dass ich so gut wie garkeine Ahnung vom produzieren und mischen und so weiter habe. Und ich habe nur sehr unprofessionelles Zeug hier am Start.
Ich mach halt gerne Musik und singe dazu .....
Wenn du Noise Gate sagst, weiss ich nur das ich in irgendeinem Programm das drin hab aber nicht was es macht :) .... Gut, ich übertreibe natürlich etwas aber wirklich viel Wissen gibt es hier wirklich nicht was -offen und zu oder welcher Filter wann und wofür ist und sowas alles.
Was mich echt nervt ist, das ich wohl ein besseres Kabel für mein Micro brauche, da ich ein ständiges Hintergrundrauschen habe, das ich nicht los werde.
Another cool track Joe. Your vocals make the song for me on this one. You laid down a driving, minimal track under your vocals thats really cool. Just enough here, a little FX there. Sounds great.
This is really great and i like the way you switch between German and English. I disagree that the mix needs sorting out as it sounds fine to me. It could be filled out with some pads or something just to give it another layer of depth but you've done marvels with the vocals.
This was a really good listen.
FR
Joe, i really liked this track. Vocals were excellent! Just right for the feel of the track. it reminded me of Lou Reed a bit, probably because of the chord progression, but also because of the laid back feel to the vocals. This is one of the more interesting and engaging tracks I've heard on Looperman. Very nice work!
That a song from me would remind someone on Lou Reed - wow
Cool to hear that you like the vocals, cause deep inside i am just more a singer then a producer, so your words make me realy happy.
Great track Joe! Love the spacy Chorus. Great retro sound with the reverb. This track has it all. Im a fan of your work, i think i said this before.
As for changes, I like the minimal style you have know. But in my mind, I heard Kraftwerk underneath this. I know, i know, i hear Kraftwerk in everything, LOL. But if I remixed this, it would try to produce it Kraftwerk style.
But thats just me, probably not what you imagined with this track. But the way it is now, its very very cool!
Always nice to hear something from you.
And, yes you said it already befor but that dosend matter at all, cause it sounds every time you say it, extreme cool in my ears! :)
mmmmmm ..... Kraftwerk ..... I love them also a lot and all starts with there cool song - Ruck Zack - to me and not with the "younger" pur electronic stuff :) .... but i am not sure what kind of Kraftwerksounds you "hear" in your head when you listen to this piece of music.
But feel free to do a remix :) - If needed, i could make a acapella ....
Nice that you enjoy this version and give it a fav.
So thanks for the comment and the time u invest.
stay tuned
joe
on HOME - Joe Cramer on SBM - proximal vicinity by joecramer
Anyway I really enjoyed your song - I had that impression something was missing on this competition track and you filled it up very well.
Very nice work, Alex
I am happy that you enjoyed the listen and found it nice.
No, this isnt inspired by someone special. In fakt it is realy made just for (or maybe by) this minimal master of SMB´s track that i made. I had the words already in my mind when i done the last version of the mastering comp.
Cool to hear that you believe that this filled the comp track very well.
So thanks for your friendly words and the time you spent.
stay tuned
joe
on HOME - Joe Cramer on SBM - proximal vicinity by joecramer
Cheers____orlando
So thanks a lot for this friendly words
stay tuned
joe
on HOME - Joe Cramer on SBM - proximal vicinity by joecramer
It has this slippery, smoshy feeling over the lyris and all over your voice - as there should be in a love song.
I think your vox could benefit from having a little more distance, at the moment it's very close to the ear somehow. Maybe a touch of reverb and delay and maybe layering it a few times also in between the chorus.
The instrumental it self is one of my favourites here.
Cheers!
/ SJ =)
A slippery voice :) thats cool in a way.
And you are right, i am not 100% happy with the vox.
I think i will do some more takes and see how i can master it a bit better.
So thanks for your comment and your little help.
stay tuned
joe
on Wir lagen vor Madakaskar by joecramer
This is (just) a real raw file. Often i like this raw things more then the finished work. Thats one of the reason why i need so long to do things new :)
This toms are very cool and in my ears they cryed for some vocals. So i done it.
Nice to hear that you enjoyed the listen and give the track a fav.
stay tuned
joe
on joes real final minimal master - SBM comp by joecramer
Really like how it rises, with that piano melody and then that guitar... amazing.
The introduction of the beat is a wow moment.
Pure gem, thanks for sharing!
There are a lot of versions out right now and that you think that my little minimal version ist beautiful, in your eys/ears, that is realy nice to hear.
I spent a lot of time into this comp and it is a good feeling to see that, at least for some people, i done it in a way good.
So thanks a lot for your friendly words and the time you spent.
stay tuned
joe
on joes real final minimal master - SBM comp by joecramer
Nice that you like it.
Let´s see where this version ends :)
stay tuned
joe
on joes real final minimal master - SBM comp by joecramer
Nice to her that you think this is in a way exellent.
I am not realy into this mastering thing, so it is realy nice to hear that others think i done it good ......
I post all versions where i believed from that they are in a way cool on looperman. So if you wanna listen where this last version comes from you could do that.
All starts with this 1st version
http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/159779
Then it goes over this version
http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/159814
To this one
http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/160013
And i think it ends realy here :)
Thanks for the comment and the time you spent
stay tuned
joe
on Wir lagen vor Madakaskar by joecramer
This is a very cool track!
TCAS
Thanks for your comment.
Nice that you enjoy the listen.
And Kraftwerk, oh yeah, i think i heard almost all they done and i realy love some of there stuff very very much.
But i realy had no Kraftwerk feeling on this track befor you asked. Thats intressting.
stay tuned
joe
on joes real final minimal master - SBM comp by joecramer
I just tryed to do it so good as it is/was posible for me, at that point.
-Heard a couple of your takes on this project and agree that this is the most interest so far.-
This -so far- sets me a little under pressure :)
Lets see where it all ends.
And let me say that it is real friendly from you, that you spent so much time into listening to all this diffrent versions that are out there in this comp and give almost everyone some comments. Thanks a lot for that!
stay tuned
joe
on joes real final minimal master - SBM comp by joecramer
on joes real final minimal master - SBM comp by joecramer
Bear
This wasnt real hard working. Sure it was a lot of work but i enjoyed it.
But this -kill the 3rd note- sounds like a lot of hard work ....
I´m not sure what i will do
stay tuned
joe
on Wir lagen vor Madakaskar by joecramer
Your offer sounds interesting.
Never done something like that befor.
Mostly i do my own music with my own lyrics
or my lyrics to others music
So i would enjoy to do something new.
Develop it and stay in touch.
I will wait for your work
joe
on joes real final minimal master - SBM comp by joecramer
and in the end of the day this is more than solid entry and probably among the best ones.
Congrats_____Orlando
In a way i am happy that i dont have to say what master is the best one out there. This job is for SBM :)
So, thanks for youre friendly words Orlando
stay tuned
joe
on joes real final minimal master - SBM comp by joecramer
Thanks for your friendly comment.
Cool that you had this creepy-happy feeling with the sound, cause i tryed to tell a -got lost (in the jungle), find the right way- story with the beginning.
So it looks like it worked a bit.
stay tuned
joe
on joes real final minimal master - SBM comp by joecramer
Really nice work on this one.
Greetings,
Alex
nice to hear that you enjoyed the listening.
I tryed to hear the dissonanses you wrote from but i cant get them. That may be because i have realy only cheap stuff on my side (call me mister low tech himself) and or its because i am an old man, with old ears, that listen to long to, too loud and often to bad, music :) i dont know.
I can hear the strings well but that may be because i listen to them so often while mastering. The woodwind, i would say, is the loudest sample in the 3rd part.
I will try to listen abit closer and a few times more, maybe i will get where you talking about.
Thanks for your friendly words, the help and your time.
stay tuned
joe
on Wir lagen vor Madakaskar by joecramer
Nice to hear that you think it sounds good.
Like i sayed befor, its a kind of a prototyp. If peoples like it, i will think about a "real" production .....
Thanks for your words and the time you invested.
stay tuned
joe
on Wir lagen vor Madakaskar by joecramer
Outstanding effort. It is a little bit long, but what the heck, it is a shanty. They are supposed to be long :)
Bear
Thanks for your kind words.
I am happy that you think it works.
Maybe i realy should do a -Madagaskar- track,
with the knowing that i do a -Madagaskar- track.
....the only thing is, my daughter hates the lyrics
- to depresive - :) so i have to do it in the night
stay tuned
joe
on Wir lagen vor Madakaskar by joecramer
I like the vibe and the vocals work well. The main percussive synth movement is good but I really feel the track is just too repetitive.
There are lots of fills or even proper changes you could add to make things more interesting.
Sorry I don't have much else to say but that's because I can't find many different sections to talk about.
Because it's so repetitive, it seems very long.
Let me know if you hear it differently.
I dont know if it is the first one of a genre :) who knows
The point is - i didnd start to do this track.
I just listen to some loops and by that i found this stereo toms. I liked the sound and the hypnotic feeling and so i just taked a mic and maked some noise to it. It ends on this madagaskar song and i loved the beat and this sad lyrics.
So i just sang the lyrics a few times and later i tryed to make some sounds around. AND a bad thing happend. I didnt hit the notes cause i didnt had any while singing. So only on the main text the notes fits and on the refrain it sounded very bad. So i just take it as it was.
The song is 7 parts long and normaly between all come a refrain. mostly 2 times. i redused that but you are right, it is realy long .......
I realy felt in love to this song and i believe i will do a "real" track with it. And then there will be more sounds and things around. Cause this dieing crew thing and the ocean and the sad feelings .... there can be so much sound
Ok, thanks for your time u spend
stay tuned
joe
on Cyberspace Version2 - 016 by joecramer
Nice to hear that you found the song not bad.
And like sayed befor - this mixing thing ....
stay tuned
joe
on Leben ist so by joecramer
langsam wird ein schuh draus es fängt an mich mitzunehmen,der gesang kommt laut und klar die melodie hakt ein,es stört ein wenig das der gesang wie eingeblendet wirkt du benutzt doch kein noise gate oder ??versuch doch mal das micro offen zu lassen das macht die sache natürlicher aber das ist nur meine meinung du weißt das ich ungerne kritisiere,mach weiter so,DRO
Schön zu hören das es anfängt dich mitzunehmen.
Eins meiner Problem ist es, dass ich so gut wie garkeine Ahnung vom produzieren und mischen und so weiter habe. Und ich habe nur sehr unprofessionelles Zeug hier am Start.
Ich mach halt gerne Musik und singe dazu .....
Wenn du Noise Gate sagst, weiss ich nur das ich in irgendeinem Programm das drin hab aber nicht was es macht :) .... Gut, ich übertreibe natürlich etwas aber wirklich viel Wissen gibt es hier wirklich nicht was -offen und zu oder welcher Filter wann und wofür ist und sowas alles.
Was mich echt nervt ist, das ich wohl ein besseres Kabel für mein Micro brauche, da ich ein ständiges Hintergrundrauschen habe, das ich nicht los werde.
Aber ich bin dabei es in den Griff zu bekommen
Danke für deine Zeit
joe
on Leben ist so by joecramer
I faved again Joe :)
RW
Thanks again!
Nice to hear that one of my biggest fan :) like this track.
I just love minimal music and it is nice to know that i am not alone
I am glad to produce just another track that you like
stay tuned Renz
joe
on Cyberspace Version2 - 016 by joecramer
This was a really good listen.
FR
Nice to hear that you enjoyed the listen
and that you like vocals
Maybe the track needs some smooth synthy improvisations
behind all ...... but not now .......
now i will go into hollydays - 2 weeks on the beach
so stay tuned
joe
on Cyberspace Version2 - 016 by joecramer
You are right. Could sure be better mixed.
And i think it will sound better after i done the real production.
Thanks for the comment
joe
on Cyberspace Version2 - 016 by joecramer
That a song from me would remind someone on Lou Reed - wow
Cool to hear that you like the vocals, cause deep inside i am just more a singer then a producer, so your words make me realy happy.
thanks again
stay tuned
joe
on Cyberspace Version2 - 016 by joecramer
As for changes, I like the minimal style you have know. But in my mind, I heard Kraftwerk underneath this. I know, i know, i hear Kraftwerk in everything, LOL. But if I remixed this, it would try to produce it Kraftwerk style.
But thats just me, probably not what you imagined with this track. But the way it is now, its very very cool!
I faved for sure! Keep em coming Joe
RW
Always nice to hear something from you.
And, yes you said it already befor but that dosend matter at all, cause it sounds every time you say it, extreme cool in my ears! :)
mmmmmm ..... Kraftwerk ..... I love them also a lot and all starts with there cool song - Ruck Zack - to me and not with the "younger" pur electronic stuff :) .... but i am not sure what kind of Kraftwerksounds you "hear" in your head when you listen to this piece of music.
But feel free to do a remix :) - If needed, i could make a acapella ....
Nice that you enjoy this version and give it a fav.
So thanks for the comment and the time u invest.
stay tuned
joe