ELECKTRON - Siensystem

3rd May 2010 09:22 - 16 years ago
Description : ////Update 06/03/2010////
Updated the track with what I believe is now the final version. I added a new section of percs to give the track a bit more "groove" and fixed several panning issues with the open highs: previously set to right, corrected so there was better balance on both left and right channels. I also corrected a few kick-drum sections. The most significant change is with additional voices after the break (3m50s). That part always seemed a bit empty; it has now been expanded a bit more. I also made very small changes at the outro: just a few kick fills, reverse-crashes and additional hats. I used vbr encoding to get the most out of size vs quality. somethings do feel better when compared to the standard. A 320 version can be provided if requested.
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////Update 05/23/2010/////
Updated the track with many changes. removed some hats from the start and replaced with others. Went back to the mixing and adjusted many instruments. Adjusted delays for the main leads: they feel much better with respects to stereo placement. Adjusted panning of hats. Applied better EQ to basslines, leads, kick, claps, hats and strings: some come through the mix much better. Stereo-enhanced some instruments. Improved reverbs. Changed the way some synths come in: removed some filtration. And fixed a few things. This version definitely feels much better and is likely final: things do feel much clearer and tighter. Please let me know how it sounds on your end. NOTE: the track is rendered at 128k to conserver space, but please let me know if you'd like a 320K version. I will gladly send it your way. 320 definitely sounds allot better than 128.
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////Update 05/11/2010////
Updated the track added sfx. Changed a few snare sections and crashes. Modified the drums so they had a bit of groove. I also rendered the file at the highest quality possible before converting to mp3. The last version was a simply 16-bit render and had a few anomalies. I am much happier with this version.
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////Update 05/04/2010////
Thanks to Salkizar for mentioning adjusting the drums. I took a look at them and have boosted them up a bit. I also added some things, removed others, so far is near complete.
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Didn't realize it was set to members only.
Request: I have heard this several times but I am not too happy with the levels. Please let me know how it sounds on your end.

I adjusted a few parts and also adjusted some levels. Feels a bit better.
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I finally have a final version of this new trance track.

Trance is definitely a genre I love and can never seem to disconnect myself from. So it feels really good to finally have made a trancer. It's been nearly 2 months!

Here I wanted to use some of the ideas from 5 Centimeters and some idm stuff I have done in the past. I am mainly trying to get more idm-ish/glitch style elements into trance and I hopefully accomplished the task.

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Comments (18)

If you have time take a listen and give siensystem some feedback.

Mosaic
Mosaic 2nd May 2011 12:36 - 15 years ago
Hey siensystem

Mate this is a very club ready trance piece, so love the bassline, excellent, working well with the beat and kick moving the track along very well, excellent synths and pads, dont think I heard the other version, all I can say this is great, clarity and the arrangement is spot on, as you know I do trance, this is brilliant, massive fav mate, can not fault in any shape or form...Peace n Respect...Estefano...
Drakarta
Drakarta 5th Jun 2010 05:13 - 16 years ago
Really nice track, i like the pace of it. Although the alarm clock noise somewhere around 3:30-4:00 sounds exactly like my alarm which always gives me a weird feeling. Outstanding.
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Hehe, yes, now that you mentioned it, it definitely reminds me of an alarm-clock :) Thanks for your visit and comment.
Alen9R
Alen9R 4th Jun 2010 01:25 - 16 years ago
I'm not a trance expert,but this is excellent track and excellent mastering!
I do not want to talk this is good, That is good ... etc!
Because it's all been worked GREAT, I download and thank you for sharing this track!

keep doing great work!

9R
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks 9R, you made it just in time for the revised version and glad you heard this one as well. Thanks for the kind words!
n0mad23
n0mad23 24th May 2010 21:11 - 16 years ago
Man, you've really fined tuned and polished this one haven't you? My earlier review still stands, however you've pushed this on into a place where I am compelled to favorite it.

I think your understanding (conscious or otherwise) of textures and timbre is what really sets this over the top. It's the Ambient sensibility applied to Trance music that really sets this apart.

Excellent.
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
n0mad, your kind words are always the soothing factor of my day. I humbly thank you very much my friend.
JoyfulWAVE
JoyfulWAVE 24th May 2010 16:41 - 16 years ago
all i can say is...NICE JOB !!!
keep up the good work :)
i never listened to the older versions...but at the end its great...cheers...JW...
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks JW! Really glad that you gave this one a chance and liked the results. Much appreciated!
StephenPotter
StephenPotter 24th May 2010 11:39 - 16 years ago
This song has a nice fast melody, and a real sense of atmosphere.

I added this one to my faviroutes, cos I think you've done a really good job.
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks Stephen!
DeejayDo
DeejayDo 24th May 2010 11:20 - 16 years ago
i like it...full of nice strings and great beat, you are a pro
great job
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks DeejayDo! I'm humbled by your "you are a pro" comment. I'm always very insecure with my own music that I never really give myself enough credit for a job-well-done. Thanks for the re-assurance and support. Thanks mate!
smallpaul
smallpaul 23rd May 2010 22:04 - 16 years ago
hi mate, excellent work here, the whole track sounds amazing, really professional. Well done.
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks SP! Much appreciate it. This version definitely feels allot more complete. I'm still thinking of adding a few more things toward the end, but those are just some ideas on paper. I still kinda feel the snare fills need to be adjusted in some places, but thats the problem with music (which I'm sure you can relate), sometimes when you think it's complete then more ideas come along, lol. Well, again, your comment/review is welcomed and appreciated. Thanks.
ZooMuzik
ZooMuzik 13th May 2010 09:32 - 16 years ago
hey mate! Salkizar here again!! Lovin that bouncy groove on the drums now....skippy little hats give it another dimension..Dont think i noticed them before..are they new? Anyways...this trakc now has a real club bounce on it and would be great on the dancefloor!!Really well done for a job well done!!
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks again Salkizar!! Glad you noticed the hats, I wasn't too sure about it after making the changes but since you mentioned they sound good, I'm definitely leaving that in. I just (today) updated it with many, many changes and feel it is now final. Appreciate the help in listening closely and providing the feedback. Thanks!
smallpaul
smallpaul 12th May 2010 08:47 - 16 years ago
hi mate great track sounds fine ths end levels ok!! nice big buillding track with excellent breakdowns!! keep it up!
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Hey smallpaul, thanks much for the kind words and assurance on all elements. Thanks!
Planetjazzbass
Planetjazzbass 9th May 2010 01:33 - 16 years ago
Hey Sien.....Trancelvanian big time..this track has excellent breakouts and layers..man this music would have been near impossible before sequencing and drum machines..drummers would have coronaries trying to keep up!...not to mention poor bass players wearing their fingers down to the bone...love that velvety synth in the later half...a very cool track....as to the levels their fine but I don't envy your mixing task here... Trance is probably one of the most difficult styles to get perfectly right,there are so many layers and frequency crossovers.... a lot of tweaking that's for sure!..super work..cheers Dave :)
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks planet and I completely agree. I can't imagine myself playing any of the instruments in this track, except maybe the clap lol. I greatly appreciate your visit and your kind words.
ROMETHEAPOSTLE
ROMETHEAPOSTLE 6th May 2010 21:36 - 16 years ago
love this trac man. i like dance,trance, techno in general...even make some, but this is good, whatever work it needs i couldnt tell...unless ur talking about stuff ur gonna add...anyways good job. respect. ROME.
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks allot! I will def check your music soon. I am so glad that you liked this and gave it a listen.
NemesisV1
NemesisV1 5th May 2010 22:53 - 16 years ago
Absolutely One Of The Best Trance Tracks Around here .
I Love the progression of your melody mate , gr8 Psy Build up as well ^.^ !

And btw your bassline reminds me of Popof - PodCast :) , which is Hard Tech so nice touches , gr8 job !

Cheers !
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Nemesis, thanks for the kind words! I really needed the re-assurance that is sounds good. Thanks so much! I will check your music soon!
theHumps
theHumps 5th May 2010 09:57 - 16 years ago
Hey Sien, like the improvements, sounds awesome in the headphones. I like all the changes in it, not just a straight beat through the whole song. Quite an epic song, really well put together, especially the overall dynamics and quality of the recording,great job!

Wayne
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks for the re-assurance theHumps. I am still a bit eerie about the levels and some of the things going on in the track, but I guess it must be that I've heard this track over 200 times. Greatly appreciate the kind words. Appreciate it.
Salkizar
Salkizar 4th May 2010 14:47 - 16 years ago
Yeah man! Much better now..that kikk is comin thru nice and clear without bein overpowering!

This has a lot goin on but you have made sure nothing gets lost and everything has its place which is hard to do sometimes when you have a lot goin on...As nomad says there are elements of early 90s uk rave/techno/acid but it still remains original and very very catchy little melodies goin on in wide stereo...My only criticism is the kick gets a little lost at times...cause you have some good fills and things goin on...I would bring the kick up a little in the mix to keep the "bounce" so to speak! But hey man..dunno how long u been producin but this is quality!!!!
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks Salkizar! I will definitely look at the kick. I think I will boost the kick up just a tad to bring it a bit more. Thanks for that observation to make my track sound better. I still feel that I need to work on the EQ a bit more and also the mastering. I am listening again each day with fresh ears and always hear something to correct. Crazy huh? hehe. Thanks again Salkizar!
KooLKYLE
KooLKYLE 4th May 2010 06:45 - 16 years ago
i like evrything about this song its got a great bass great melody and strings and a perfect progression with cool build ups great job :D
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks KoolKyle, the more I listen, the more I realize I need to work on it a bit more. Buy I am so glad that you like it. I am very doubtful most times if my music sounds good or not so it really means allot to hear your ears were happy. Thanks my friend.
n0mad23
n0mad23 3rd May 2010 21:23 - 16 years ago
Sometimes taking time away from things is exactly what the creative process needs. Listening to this one from you makes me even more convinced of this.

I really love that this is "siensystem Trance" and not compelled by formulaic genre expectations. It makes it really interesting, and authentically vital. A piece of music that was compelled to be created makes for very compelling music. Kudos.

To my ears, this is infused with the vibe and sensibilities of the first wave of Acid House and Rave music that came out of the UK. There's a certain underground sensibility driving this that transcends the current genre. Very smart to make it more for listening than clubbing.

The arrangement and production here is top-notch. Absolutely brilliant work and worthy of the praise it's going to continue getting.

I'm so glad your back, and making music siensystem!
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Hey n0mad! Thanks for coming by. I greatly appreciate it! Thanks for the great comments. I have really tried to take trance to the next level (which maybe not). I mean, I know it still has a "trance"-(as defined by known genre) form, but one thing I do allot is sfx and add a more progressive feeling with a bit of experimentation (especially the melody at 4m45s). I've always wanted to add a bit of glitch to trance and this was the perfect opportunity. Anyway, thanks so much for your kind words.
Marius9
Marius9 3rd May 2010 15:50 - 16 years ago
I wasn't really digging this track until about three minutes into it when the melodic elements started, and then I really got into it. I suppose that's the relationship I have with a lot of trance though, it takes awhile for the main melodic parts to kick in unless it's a radio edit or something.

I couldn't tell you anything to improve it, the production is top notch and the track is well thought out. I like how all the drums cut through the mix well, and you still don't lose the bass or any of the synths. Nice work!
siensystem
siensystem replied Unknown - 2028 years ago
Thanks Marius! Greatly appreciate the review!

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