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Description : Although I really enjoy all types of music, R&B is the genre I love the most. Frustratingly, it is also the genre where I know that the tracks I create are very far from the quality I strive for. Part of it is the superior musicianship that goes into really good R&B tracks. And, part of it is the vocal that I hear in my head but can never hope to create in the track. The Rhodes piano lead provides a sense of what the melody line would be. Incomplete song, but I'm posting it anyway.

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  1. BeatMaker4real
    BeatMaker4real on Wed 25th Nov 2020 - 5 months ago

    Nice work on the track.

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks, BeatMaker. It does have a nice easy feel to it. But, I need to figure out chorus and bridge sections for it. Hopefully, something will occur to me at some point. Perhaps a few years from now? :)

  2. Arloph09
    Arloph09 on Wed 25th Nov 2020 - 5 months ago

    the chords are very ranb ish..but the bass ha that jazzy feel

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks for the encouragement, Arloph. The bass is a combination of electric and acoustic.

    I'm removing this track from the "featured" list from now on so that I can comment on tracks of other members without pushing this one into the featured tracks pages all the time.

  3. PatriciaEdwards
    PatriciaEdwards on Fri 13th Nov 2020 - 6 months ago

    Btw...what's the tempo?

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Tempo is 97 bpm. Kind of funny to have it such an odd number. But I've found that, sometimes, just 1 or 2 bpm makes a big difference in the feel of the track and how the groove works. I'm kind of surprised by that.

  4. PatriciaEdwards
    PatriciaEdwards on Fri 13th Nov 2020 - 6 months ago

    I know I don't get here as much anymore,
    but it seems I should have heard this one.
    It has such an "older" feel of a sitcom I can't think of right now.
    Love it!!!!! :-)
    Don't be so hard on your voice,
    you are the best translator of what's inside your head for it. :-)

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Hi, Patricia!

    Nice to hear from you! You could be right. Maybe I unknowingly re-created the theme from some sitcom from the 70's or 80's. That bell melody line that comes in at bar 9 might be the culprit! :)

    I have a really bad memory for some things like that. I once used an online plargism checking service to see whether some stuff I had written for my consulting work was actually lifted from some previously published source. Sure enough, what I had written matched something published, word for word. The problem was, I had written the original stuff and had totally forgotten about it! So, I could be copying something I heard years ago when I used to watch sitcoms. :)

    Anyway, I will take your advice on no being so hard on my voice. But, the reality for this track is that in my head, the voice I hear is a fine, smooth, R&B vocalist who knows how to deliver a ballad. I just can't figure out what the lyrics should be about.

  5. blindwolf2
    blindwolf2 on Tue 10th Nov 2020 - 6 months ago

    i love the melody here i think you could do the volcals nobody likes there own voice trick is to find the right sound in the studio to cater your voice some times i will use a tube preamp chanle strip combo with parametric eq set to phone transient modeller stereo processor some times guitar pedal like flying pig bass wich gives a real cool sound to volcal lota other efects somtimes a delay or flanger or distortion pedal that works for my crapy voice the trick is find what set up works for your voice and style great track man

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks, blindwolf. If it was a different type of track I probably would try to work up some lyrics and do the vocal. One the rare occasion when I've done my own vocals, I do use a lot of processing to camouflage my wretched singing. Haven't tried guitar effects (I don't have actual pedals, but I do have virtual pedals). That might be interesting. I think I'll experiment with that. Thanks for the suggestion.

    But, this track definitely needs a good R&B singer. I might eventually break down and hire somebody using Soundbetter or some other online service. But, that's expensive and I'm not at all aiming to get my stuff published or released. Just doing this because it's fun. :)

    Eric

  6. CinCoCent
    CinCoCent on Tue 10th Nov 2020 - 6 months ago

    I know I did listen and add to my favs but plated agian enjoyable easy listening even the 2nd time
    CC

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks. It seems to be getting some good reaction from members. Makes me think I should try doing more of this. :)

  7. Discipline
    Discipline on Tue 10th Nov 2020 - 6 months ago

    I enjoyed listening to this - Very relaxing and some sweet instrument choices. This sounds more 70's than 80's to me and more in the realm of smooth jazz. It works well as an instrumental but would also probably come to life if you could just acquire a decent vocalist for it.

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Hi, Discipline. Thanks for the comment. You could well be right about it sounding more like the 70's. I just made a guess that it fit with the 80's more. What I really want to do (someday) is produce something that sounds like 60's Motown! :)

    And, I also agree that getting a decent vocalist and some lyrics would be a great advancement. That's the great frustration of my life. Much of my stuff is intended as a vocal track.

    Eric

  8. bringerofDOOM
    bringerofDOOM on Sun 8th Nov 2020 - 6 months ago

    Well here is the weirdness I offer though it's not really that weird. I changed the key, tempo, and time signature a few times, added guitar, some bass, and drums. I tried to keep it as chill as the original, let me know if I did it justice:
    https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/221541

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Not weird at all! I really like what you did with it. Have left comment on your tracks page.

    Eric

  9. thechockehold
    thechockehold on Tue 13th Oct 2020 - 7 months ago

    Exellent!

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks for the positive feedback on the track! Sorry for the delay in responding to your comment. I kind of lost track of stuff for a while.

    Eric

  10. ceURR
    ceURR on Mon 12th Oct 2020 - 7 months ago

    Nice ambient on your track man!!!

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks ceURR. I think it turned out OK. bringerofDoom has built a new track on it and it is very interesting. A lot more variation and complexity. You should check it out. Nice guitar work on it. REAL guitar! :)

    Eric

  11. IAmLegendary
    IAmLegendary on Mon 12th Oct 2020 - 7 months ago

    Oh my!! I definitely need more of these modern classic Mowtown joints!!!!!

    Legendary!

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks for the encouragement, Legendary! I do appreciate it.

    Eric

  12. bringerofDOOM
    bringerofDOOM on Mon 12th Oct 2020 - 7 months ago

    guess I gotta comment again to download, might surprise you with some weirdness, fair warning :)

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    I look forward to any weirdness you might offer! :)

  13. JennaEvans
    JennaEvans on Mon 12th Oct 2020 - 7 months ago

    Cool track relaxing vibes enjoyed ! Jenna x

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks, Jenna. I only get to work on my music at night. I think that tends to influence the feel of the tracks I do.

    Eric

  14. phantomproduction
    phantomproduction on Mon 12th Oct 2020 - 7 months ago

    hi! all you have to do is find a vocal for your song .. very cool and well done !!
    Michel

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks, Michel. I absolutely agree. Needs a vocal. Nice studio in your profile photo, by the way. I can see you are a real musician!

  15. DMindProductions
    DMindProductions on Mon 12th Oct 2020 - 7 months ago

    Its a vibe!

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks. Definitely has a nice vibe going. I really need to figure out additional structure and lock in the chord progressions for those. It's not boring (yet), but this type of music can't just stay in one progression for the entire song. Need to roll up my sleeves and dig in. :)

  16. bringerofDOOM
    bringerofDOOM on Mon 12th Oct 2020 - 7 months ago

    Nice smooth sounding track. Would be fun to noodle over. Great work.

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks. Noodling is good! That's pretty much what I did with the attempt at a vocal line toward the end of the track. Really needs a vocalist.

  17. 2nick8
    2nick8 on Sat 26th Sep 2020 - 7 months ago

    Such a calming and soothing vibe to the track..I can picture the vocals in your lead...Patricia Edwards would do some magic vocals with this..

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Hi, Nick. Thanks for the supporting words! I agree. Patricia could do something special with vocals on this. I've got several unfinished tracks using her acapellas. Would be amazing to have her Collab on a track like this, but I think she's very selective about working with others, which I totally understand. I actually had thought of this with a male vocal, but your comment is making me re-think that. Could be either.

    Eric

  18. terryjmhitsong
    terryjmhitsong on Thu 17th Sep 2020 - 7 months ago

    SWEET TRACK ERIC....SPOT ON TIGHT TOO....LOVELY

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks, Terry. I think I did a pretty good job on the bass line, if I say so myself. Well, perhaps not the bass line itself, but the bass sound is pretty good I think. This might be one where, after letting it marinate for 4 years, I should spend some time trying to write a chorus and bridge section so it can grow up and be a real song! :)

    Eric

  19. theHumps
    theHumps on Wed 16th Sep 2020 - 8 months ago

    Pretty nice track. It sounds like Hall and Oates, if you had them singing on this it would be a hit! Philly sounding r n b. Mix is well done, soothing soft mix for a relaxing track.

    I see you have a collab request posted. I was noodling some short melodies and phrases here and there on my acoustic to this. Would that be something you might want to add? I could even give you a couple dry tracks of me trying things thru the song which you could chop up and/or pick and choose what parts go where and how much you want to add to the production. Basically it would be giving you a bunch of loops to pick through. Let me know.

    Cheers!

    Wayne

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Hi, Wayne. Thanks for the encouragement!

    Yes, I thing it has flavors of Philly RnB and a bit of Motown as well. I’ve got a couple of tracks that need a Barry White type vocalist, some others meant for somebody along the lines of Marvin Gaye, some that were my attempt to write an R. Kelly song, and some that definitely are influenced by Hall and Oates.

    I really like Hall and Oates. And, I just ate up every episode of “Daryl’s House”. They are both great musicians and songwriters.

    Yes, I’d definitely be interested in getting your noodling on the track. I will PM you with my email address so we can get connected on that.

    Eric

  20. xstokes
    xstokes on Tue 15th Sep 2020 - 8 months ago

    hello eric. it’s so cool to hear someone really stretch out on the rhodes, reminds us the instrument is capable of producing so much more than great vamps! everything is so lyrically played that the track certainly doesn’t suffer from lack of vox. you know sometimes when i hear something this straightfowardly melodic, my inner grinch starts with ‘get me off this fuckin love boat,’ but i’d have to be more of a curmudgeon than even that not to be digging this.

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    I know exactly what you mean about “love boat”, xstokes. I am acutely aware that when I play in a melody line using a Rhodes or B3 patch, the track can sound like Muzak (elevator music). It bothers me quite a bit, actually, because with a good vocalist, I think the tracks would not sound that way at all. I do know that my melody sense is more lyrical and simple than contemporary pop songs or alt and NuRnB for that matter. If I was a student in a music school like Berkeley (I’d never get in) I am sure I’d be severely criticized for a lack of imagination in the construction of melodies. I’ve been thinking that I should spend a bit of time studying artists like Charlie Puth who really knows how to do this well. :)

    Eric

  21. Micky
    Micky on Tue 15th Sep 2020 - 8 months ago

    To me this is not at all far from the quality you strive for. It sounds well produced and lush indeed. It's just the vocalist missing. I guess Phil Perry would fit perfectly, but ... I know, I know, what can we do? Eric, maybe you should check out Mykael's profile here (Mykael). I've heard very nice vocals on some of his tracks and had contact with him. He's a very nice person and ready to collab if the track matches his taste, of course. Just a suggestion.
    This is a wonderful track that deserves to be completed!
    Have a nice day,
    Micky

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks for the positive comment, Micky. Definitely needs a vocalist. I will check out Mykael as you suggested.

    Eric

  22. dvnmusic
    dvnmusic on Tue 15th Sep 2020 - 8 months ago

    Nice track
    Super vibey

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks, 4maly. That’s what I was trying for.

    Eric

  23. crucethus
    crucethus on Tue 15th Sep 2020 - 8 months ago

    Great tune mate! The rhodes is awesome. perfectly balanced EQ and a really nice mix. Great job!
    Steven

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks, Steve. I actually didn’t fuss much over the mix. As I mentioned to CinCoCent, this track is actually 4 years old. I have updated versions of some of the instruments (the Rhodes in this version is the stock instrument included with Logic Pro) and better effects plugins. But, I didn’t replace anything, so I think that’s telling me something. Sometimes better to just leave well enough alone, I guess.

    Eric

  24. CinCoCent
    CinCoCent on Tue 15th Sep 2020 - 8 months ago

    Well the rhodes surely makes it rnb tho. I like the bells. Good stuff. Well put together. That synth sound to nice!

    EricMilligan
    Reply by EricMilligan

    Thanks, CinCoCent. Very nice to get some positive feedback. I had forgotten about this track entirely. I actually did it 4 years ago! Ran out of ideas on how to extend it, I guess. But, the reaction from LM members has been pretty good, so perhaps I should try again.

    Eric

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