Description : 9th track of my future vocaloid album, Acerbus 2.
With Lyrics.
Edit: (Update) 11-14-2015, re-did all effects and EQs
Edit2: (Update2) 11-15-2015, re-balanced some vocals cus some were a bit too loud
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My personal opinion is to not split your vocal line
you can sidechain if you want to be have 2 vocals with different effects
but man, why you dont use effects on your first vocal line? thats crazy
every vocal line should be have mastering
roll off and compression is necessary for vocals
its ok if you want to split your vocal lines but dont leave your first vocal line unaffected
Oh I must have misspoken. I certainly do not leave the any vocal unaffected. Just on the mono i use less then on the side since i want to hear them more clearly in the middle versus the side. I dont know on the top of my head what effects i used on the mono part. But there is a lot but very delecate
Okay so i will glad to write something to help you:
we have three phases of mastering:
roll off
compresion
2nd equlize for brighting (EQ)
widing
harmonic exciter (tube-tape-retro)
reverb
maximize
overview
first, what you need to be have a great vocal line is certainly "Roll Off"
Roll off means removing some additional frequencies
for example for male singer you should remove frequencies above 15000Hz and lower than 90Hz (its variable for each singer)
you can easily use a parametric equalizer for this
and some of them has a box which can show you which range of frequencies are additional like Fruity loops parametric EQ2
(which i use)
second thing you need for vocal line is compression
for example if singer shouts a lot in the vocal line
you should be have compression
it makes your vocal line's volume fixed
but sometimes for example you have a rock vocal line which has a lot of shouting and up and down
so you have to limit your vocal line with a limiter
but be careful, cuz limiting and compression should be average, not much and not low
if you have a loud vocal line after limiting, i suggest you to turn the volume down
and the last thing you should do, (except effects like delay, reverb, chorus and etc ) is widing
lemme give you an example,
if a guitar player play guitar in front of you in about 1 meters distance, you hear the guitar sounds loud
but if he goes far about 10 meters, you hear sounds lower
so the widing is same distance
its effective on volume, "but its not the volume"
I dont know what is the plugin in your daw for widing
and if you dont have one, I will be glad to send you one
but the only thing you should do for this track
is to "unwide" your vocal line with a widing plugin
Many thanks for the info man.
I deffinitly roll off first followed by a compressor.
As for the widening. This term is kinda new to me. But what i have done is for ,exampletaking one vocal line and splits that into one fully mono and one fully stereo, then over the stereo one use delays ect and side chain so i dont affect the mono part. I will re read the stuff u just gave me when i am at home when i have more time.
Thanks, great to hear!
I am no proffessional at mastering,
Still in the learning phase. Sometimes i notice the vocals are way too loud and sometimes way too soft. Still figuring out how to solve that.
Nice sound here my friend, gets going around 1:05 then back to chillout. I think it would sound equally as good as an ambient chillout type track!? Anyways well done.
Hey man, I love ambient :D
I always try to put a hint of it in my tracks,
my older songs of the previous acerbus album are more ambient orientated.
Thanks for the comment!
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try to unwide your loud part
then turn the volume of your effected part down and wide it
Kind regards
J_*
Thanks a lot for the help man. I appreciate it
~Eighteen
you can sidechain if you want to be have 2 vocals with different effects
but man, why you dont use effects on your first vocal line? thats crazy
every vocal line should be have mastering
roll off and compression is necessary for vocals
its ok if you want to split your vocal lines but dont leave your first vocal line unaffected
Kindest regards
J_*
we have three phases of mastering:
roll off
compresion
2nd equlize for brighting (EQ)
widing
harmonic exciter (tube-tape-retro)
reverb
maximize
overview
first, what you need to be have a great vocal line is certainly "Roll Off"
Roll off means removing some additional frequencies
for example for male singer you should remove frequencies above 15000Hz and lower than 90Hz (its variable for each singer)
you can easily use a parametric equalizer for this
and some of them has a box which can show you which range of frequencies are additional like Fruity loops parametric EQ2
(which i use)
second thing you need for vocal line is compression
for example if singer shouts a lot in the vocal line
you should be have compression
it makes your vocal line's volume fixed
but sometimes for example you have a rock vocal line which has a lot of shouting and up and down
so you have to limit your vocal line with a limiter
but be careful, cuz limiting and compression should be average, not much and not low
if you have a loud vocal line after limiting, i suggest you to turn the volume down
and the last thing you should do, (except effects like delay, reverb, chorus and etc ) is widing
lemme give you an example,
if a guitar player play guitar in front of you in about 1 meters distance, you hear the guitar sounds loud
but if he goes far about 10 meters, you hear sounds lower
so the widing is same distance
its effective on volume, "but its not the volume"
I dont know what is the plugin in your daw for widing
and if you dont have one, I will be glad to send you one
but the only thing you should do for this track
is to "unwide" your vocal line with a widing plugin
Kind regards
J_*
I deffinitly roll off first followed by a compressor.
As for the widening. This term is kinda new to me. But what i have done is for ,exampletaking one vocal line and splits that into one fully mono and one fully stereo, then over the stereo one use delays ect and side chain so i dont affect the mono part. I will re read the stuff u just gave me when i am at home when i have more time.
Many thanks again man
~Eighteen
just tell me what DAW you use
then I can give you some advice to solve that
its a great track
and I think your vocal line is wide a bit
not loud
Kindest regards
J_
I am no proffessional at mastering,
Still in the learning phase. Sometimes i notice the vocals are way too loud and sometimes way too soft. Still figuring out how to solve that.
Cheers!
~Eighteen
I always try to put a hint of it in my tracks,
my older songs of the previous acerbus album are more ambient orientated.
Thanks for the comment!
~Eighteen