So As I listen again for a proper review. I like the semi break beat sound. The guitars have an 1989 sound, the mixing up of the beats is cool... The piano at 1:06 is nice. then some arps and some side chained pads and back to cool square wave arps with massive snare beats. nice verb effects at around 2:00, cool distortion at 2:28 works nicely with the arps. 2:54 gives us an ATB like glissando effect fading into a nice sidechained ending. It's really too short of a piece as I
was just getting into it at this point.
good work Mark
Steve
A really big thanks for giving this a listen again and for your comprehensive and much appreciated comments. I take your point about the length of the track and generally I have tried to keep my tracks between 3-4 minutes (the really early ones were shorter) but I agree this one should be longer. something for me to think about for future tracks. thanks again Steve for your valued opinion.
So I just listened to this FINAL version. I never got a chance to hear the original as you pulled yesterday. I really like this. It's dissonant and atonal in some parts and that sounds awesome to my ears. I think it's perfect and I wouldn't change a thing. the levels of piano are perfect, the synth washes in the beginning and gently spread out throughout the mix are nice. I just had my wife listen as well and she was impressed too. Your developing an ear for the dissonant and in-congruent in music and it's making your musical choice sound more and more sophisticated each song you produce. But in this it's also the less is more approach in the beginning that makes this interesting. well done bravo.
some examples of this style of music...the opening 1:12 of "Ladytron" Roxy Music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cTJKb6xuhA
"Newtown" Bryan Ferry Which Bryan ferry had rumbling around in his head for like 10 years before recording it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLC6XFXMubM
"Ghosts" Japan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zzLU1ato2w
"I believe in you" Talk Talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHUDNZD5N88
Steve
Thank you Steve!!
Really nice to read this, I don't think you missed much having not heard the first version - I only added some piano (after the encouraging words from Ed) and repitched some of the guitar/bass and flute sounds. Oh, and added some percussion in the very poor first drum line in the beginning (thanks to Behnam! ;)). And took away some of Kyle's vocal. Hey...that maybe was a bunch of things in the end anyway.
That track from Talk Talk - now I'm stuck! I 've been listening to it over and over and over again since yesterday, don't Think I ever heard that one before. What a tune!
My music is nothing like that but I'm hearing some minor similarity with those songs from Brian Ferry though.
Say hello and thanks for the listen to your wife too and have a good day!
/SJ =)
Excellent job. I was thinking about one of Ed's comments about listening to Sade and I was thinking about there song "Cherish the day" what I love about that song is that the bass drops in the second verse. I think that’s what this tune needs. a cool moving bassline from the second verse forward. I love how the percussion in the beginning fools the listener into thinking that song will be something else and then you bring in the mellow 7th chord pads that make this song sweet. Great job
Steve
Love the trance work..the complextro side is well done as well. My only suggestion is the reverse cymbal lead in could be made a little more interesting to keep the flow of the seperate sections.
Ok so I finally figured out something for this piece. https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/153099
La Chant De La Solitude.
It's sort of trippy and very different from what I thought I wanted to do, but that’s creativity. I may also do a simpler version with just piano and make it sound lonelier.
I am interested in Bears rendition as he is a great musician on this site, we have a great respect for each others work.
ciao
Steve
thank you Steve .
i can't wait to hear what you've done.
sorry for delay .
i'm going to listen track.
yes , Bear is one of greatest musicians here.
and one of my fav composers beside you , Behnam
and Tumbleweed .
nice to see your underestanding and prof attitude and respect for him .
i really appreciate you .
*Cindy*
I agree with Johnny it needs some vocals. a good background singer singing ethereally and a good strong lead male vox
Good song otherwise.
This might make you laugh about pop songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCVGpvzcHko
Steve
Thanks Steve! That video was really funny and mentioned some very interesting points! Pop music has changed and i think it will continue to change over the next couple of decades.
Hopefully it turns into something that will be inspirational and we as musicians can be proud of. If it continues down it's current spiral, music will eventually become a has been thing.
You have a great voice.. And Janice had a great voice. You added your own distinct sound to this classic. Maybe it's a simple as imbibing too much southern comfort? I wouldn't know as I have an awful voice. But I do know I enjoy listening to your voice.
ciao
Steve
Love the Rhodes intro. The bass is nasty and dirty on this one. I see you have centered the drums in the mix the piano is a nice accompaniment and then becomes an electro piano. then the Mix widens perfectly with Sax and Piano (Grande) Nice stereo effects (white noise) (2:38) Sax and Pad end this nicely with some percussive effects. With a fading Piano.. Well done song evokes a nice mood.
Steve
I'm Listening to this (BTW great job) and I am thinking this is all in one key and one chord structure (Cminor).. If you could learn to create a chorus.That utilizes minor 7ths pads you would appeal to a larger audience. Like from CMinor to Ab major to Bb major and back to Cminor. BTW I love to solo in Cminor and Fminor so I may just record a wah wah g-tar solo for you one of these days if you like.
Steve
Wow I hope you realize what a breath of fresh air you are to this site because no one on here has done the re-creation of tribal house from NYC from the late nineties like you have done. Bravo
Most appreciated
Steve
I like this one..good intro (wave looks funky for the intro have you checked the DC offset on it?) And it leads to some cool wubba wubba d-step.
Good work
No I haven't ;p but it indeed looks funky, noticed when I uploaded it. Guess it is because it seems to be panned a bit to the right. Glad you liked ;) Thanks for leaving a comment crucethus
And to all the people saying this is not rock. this pulls back to the early days of rock-pop sounds of the fifties and the revival in the seventies. Ahh I love nostalgia songs like this. The influence is definitely rock & Roll. Great Job Bear
Steve.
Love the Intro! I agree with you Patrick..The Deep of the song is the emotive qualities invoked by the minimalist sounds of analogue synths..that's the trick and the secret to a good deep house tune (classical sense)
good work !
Steve
Love the Intro! I agree with you Patrick..The Deep of the song is the emotive qualities invoked by the minimalist sounds of analogue synths..that's the trick and the secret to a good deep house tune (classical sense)
good work !
Steve
i really apppreciate your attempt , but as i told you it was by far different with what i meant to be composed for my song.
anyway thank you very much again .
What a voice(Best kept secret in C&C music factory),(reminds me of the days of youth) great mix. Such an old school feel and minimalistic approach I really liked this!
Steve
Nice Filtered bass tone on the intro.(Main basssline (the track's foundation) is recycled leftover slide resonator guitar detuned one octave to make a slide bass sound) Sinister start. It feels to me like a dixie jazz funeral procession with out the brass, but the nice eerie synth is cool. You have definitely created a mood with this tune. The bass work really defines and holds this tune together. Like the snare at 3:52. Break at 4:56 is cool..has a disjointed feel as if the whole song will just shatter into many pieces but then that guitar brings it back with some nice percussion. 5:50 is another nice interlude of creativity. The Piano is so subtle in this but nicely done. Also the way you recorded this one it has a live feel to it. 7:50 becomes very uplifting but briefly and then it's dark again.8:33 and 8:44 interesting acid sound. Nice slide starting at 9:08. 9:50 feels like it's morphing into another song. Holy crap..an ending!!
Very good work. I like the overall feel and presentation of this.
Yo. See my reply to MrWolf regarding bassline, which is the heartbeat of it all. The track only keeps extending cos I found other ways to work that resonator guitar bassline. Must try detuning and recycling more of my guitar playing like that.
Maybe a little like a Dixie jazz funeral though not as funereal - a bit more chilled and beautiful.
Eerie synth same as in Think Big Feel Small (last upload), Knee Deep In The Cosmic Overwhelm and others.
3:52 snare is switch to hip hop kit. That section is partly lifted from Way Beyond Wrong - possibly first track of mine you reviewed. This and that used to be the same track so share lots of instruments.
4:56 is my little dub organ. Also can be heard at 1:19.
5:15 second rock section. Had to bring that guitar playing and accented hat drum groove back as they break up the jazz nicely.
5:50 guitar starting to get jazzier and bluesier.
Yes, quite subtle piano here. Some is played, other little snippets are copied from the main synth that plays a sort of Rhodes role.
Yeah, don't think this sounds like it was made on a computer - sounds very acoustic and kind of like a live band.
7:38 though you might like the rapid dulcimer in this. Reminiscent of a particular, automatic hammering instrument (marxophone) used on a Portishead track (Orbital one too).
That dulcimer continues during the heavy section plus some big effects to create a strange, psychedelic bed.
Yes, 7:50 I guess it moves to major scale with the bass guitar. And we get a bit of violin to carry things over down over the drop back to that essential sitting jazz groove on 8:00.
I knew you'd pick out those short acid synth blasts. Instrument was just sitting on timeline but I like to put that sort of incongruity in a jazz track.
In the last couple of minutes it sort of is morphing into another song and I'm a bit embarrassed to admit I cut the end cool jam short just so I could fit whole thing on Looperman. I should probably extend it. Am tempted to make last 3 mins their own track. But I like the build from jazz to heavyish so don't want to remove that from the jazz track
Tough call to be made there.
Thanks for the thoughts, as always. See you for the next upload...
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https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/153191
thank you again Steve .
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was just getting into it at this point.
good work Mark
Steve
A really big thanks for giving this a listen again and for your comprehensive and much appreciated comments. I take your point about the length of the track and generally I have tried to keep my tracks between 3-4 minutes (the really early ones were shorter) but I agree this one should be longer. something for me to think about for future tracks. thanks again Steve for your valued opinion.
Very best wishes,
Mark/Larry!
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some examples of this style of music...the opening 1:12 of "Ladytron" Roxy Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cTJKb6xuhA
"Newtown" Bryan Ferry Which Bryan ferry had rumbling around in his head for like 10 years before recording it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLC6XFXMubM
"Ghosts" Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zzLU1ato2w
"I believe in you" Talk Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHUDNZD5N88
Steve
Really nice to read this, I don't think you missed much having not heard the first version - I only added some piano (after the encouraging words from Ed) and repitched some of the guitar/bass and flute sounds. Oh, and added some percussion in the very poor first drum line in the beginning (thanks to Behnam! ;)). And took away some of Kyle's vocal. Hey...that maybe was a bunch of things in the end anyway.
That track from Talk Talk - now I'm stuck! I 've been listening to it over and over and over again since yesterday, don't Think I ever heard that one before. What a tune!
My music is nothing like that but I'm hearing some minor similarity with those songs from Brian Ferry though.
Say hello and thanks for the listen to your wife too and have a good day!
/SJ =)
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Steve
K;)
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on sang av ensomhet by Prelude
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/153099
La Chant De La Solitude.
It's sort of trippy and very different from what I thought I wanted to do, but that’s creativity. I may also do a simpler version with just piano and make it sound lonelier.
I am interested in Bears rendition as he is a great musician on this site, we have a great respect for each others work.
ciao
Steve
i can't wait to hear what you've done.
sorry for delay .
i'm going to listen track.
yes , Bear is one of greatest musicians here.
and one of my fav composers beside you , Behnam
and Tumbleweed .
nice to see your underestanding and prof attitude and respect for him .
i really appreciate you .
*Cindy*
on Modnex - I wish by Modnex
Good song otherwise.
This might make you laugh about pop songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCVGpvzcHko
Steve
Hopefully it turns into something that will be inspirational and we as musicians can be proud of. If it continues down it's current spiral, music will eventually become a has been thing.
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Steve
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Would be the remix.
anyway thank you very much again .
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Very good work. I like the overall feel and presentation of this.
Maybe a little like a Dixie jazz funeral though not as funereal - a bit more chilled and beautiful.
Eerie synth same as in Think Big Feel Small (last upload), Knee Deep In The Cosmic Overwhelm and others.
3:52 snare is switch to hip hop kit. That section is partly lifted from Way Beyond Wrong - possibly first track of mine you reviewed. This and that used to be the same track so share lots of instruments.
4:56 is my little dub organ. Also can be heard at 1:19.
5:15 second rock section. Had to bring that guitar playing and accented hat drum groove back as they break up the jazz nicely.
5:50 guitar starting to get jazzier and bluesier.
Yes, quite subtle piano here. Some is played, other little snippets are copied from the main synth that plays a sort of Rhodes role.
Yeah, don't think this sounds like it was made on a computer - sounds very acoustic and kind of like a live band.
7:38 though you might like the rapid dulcimer in this. Reminiscent of a particular, automatic hammering instrument (marxophone) used on a Portishead track (Orbital one too).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7gutsi1uT4
That dulcimer continues during the heavy section plus some big effects to create a strange, psychedelic bed.
Yes, 7:50 I guess it moves to major scale with the bass guitar. And we get a bit of violin to carry things over down over the drop back to that essential sitting jazz groove on 8:00.
I knew you'd pick out those short acid synth blasts. Instrument was just sitting on timeline but I like to put that sort of incongruity in a jazz track.
In the last couple of minutes it sort of is morphing into another song and I'm a bit embarrassed to admit I cut the end cool jam short just so I could fit whole thing on Looperman. I should probably extend it. Am tempted to make last 3 mins their own track. But I like the build from jazz to heavyish so don't want to remove that from the jazz track
Tough call to be made there.
Thanks for the thoughts, as always. See you for the next upload...
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