Greetings. Stuttering Numnuts
Great Title, Nice intro, I like the kick and high hat only intro. This might be the most compression I have heard you use on a finished tune so far. Musically it´s a nice expression of various phrases and cello rifts. 1.34 is cool with that bass line and a simple piano. the breakbeats are also nice. I think you could layer a nice guitar screaming over the top of the phrases from about 2:30 to 3:27. 4.04 a simple mood change. Piano is perfect in this. Simple but effective. have you evr thought about using a phaser effect on the cello? not that it is needed or wanted here but just a random thought! 5:53 is a nice chorus sound. Nice Build at 6:35. 7:00 you almost get a fiddle effect for the sound. 8:09 nice break again. Piano again leads the way. So the ending on the piano is the right idea. and you end with it an E minor chord on the piano, but play one more note a piano playing c major chord and it will be a perfect ending because it will remind the listener of the tasteful piano structure you developed earlier in the tune. I liked it it has the structure ideas of some of your earlier songs but we get a cello instead of a guitar. It was the subtle musical choices in the piece that swung me over to the favourable side. you get a pack of pasties for your efforts!!
Crexit
It's true that my nuts are quite numb, mostly from the stutter effects I have been applying to them.
It's an interesting title and I find myself quite subtracted to you (because we are opposites).
I'm not that keen on the layered cello intro before the kick and hat enter. Hard to explain why though it was the very first thing I came up with for the track and everything grew out of it.
For the last few months I have been applying a limiter to nearly every track as a master effect. I'm quite concerned about my blocky waveforms but I prefer the louder, more powerful sounds. You must tell me if I've overdone the limiting.
"1.34 is cool with that bass line"
Yes, very busy and intricate bass. I've got a series of intros before the proper track really starts around 1:30 with the piano and bass. And then lots of dnb breaks are introduced.
"could layer a nice guitar screaming"
Indeed though I'm barely playing guitar anymore and have become pretty average at it. Cello has totally taken over. I really hope the guitar magic will return. It's a shame to waste the ability as I still think of it as my main instrument.
"Piano is perfect"
I think it's decent and a bit of a surprise in dnb, as is the cello. Though you fully expect there to be some cello in drum 'n' cell.
I haven't really tried phaser on cello. Not an effect I use often. Can sound a bit fake and over the top.
"5:53 is a nice chorus sound"
That's partly a choir pad.
"Nice Build at 6:35"
It's getting heavier now. And then a fiddle? Like a violin? Maybe. It's distorted cello.
"8:09 nice break again"
Nice to come down again. 8:07-8:09 is a cool delayed snippet of cello. Sounds like it has wah on it.
I will try your piano ending idea.
A pack of pasties? Are they sweets? Or are they like Cornish paasties?
Thanks for the details...
*On account of all the food you get through listening to my epic tracks. Don't forget to clean the crumbs off before bed.
Sublime Awesome usage of Ed'd G-tr work. Nice key change @ 3:00 I could feel Ed's style and your style Dan colliding in an awesome way. Those subtle Piano panned keys I could hear were nice. Great Work.
Steve
Loving that intro.....Nice Spaghetti western guitars. Fender if I am not mistaken? and that is before I read the comments. I feel the angst of the nineties Seattle sound and I hear the dynamics of a progressive sabbath sound. But I also feel the soul of our Neanderthal ancestors battling the cold and Grey glaciers for a morsel of food. The Blast beat drums give it a 2000+ feel as well. I don't know by 3:55 I felt Equally angry at Farmers and Bankers which is sort of a queasy place to be in. I think you just invented the genre Anti-industrial. Jesus H Christopher this song is just dripping with dread and cold and calculating evolution. This is the kind of music that will send those young earth creationists to stop and point and yell, "SEE that's what there all like..see! and then it just ends in a nihilistic cloud of vacuousness!
Creepy, entangling and an evocative piece of work Aaron. oh and damn good!
The spaghetti western thing was totally unintentional, but once it was pointed out, I liked it, and ran with it.
Ah yes. The angsty nineties Seattle sound. One of my favorite genres. Not only because I plunged head first into music during the nineties, but because Seattle is just a couple hours from here, and I was heavily exposed to it. So, much like I said in my reply to Evan, I'm sure the influence bled in.
Sabbath has been one of my favorites ever since I was about 5 years old. there were 4 songs from back then that I credit as the door way to my love for metal. Iron Man, Another Brick In the Wall pt.2, Tom Sawyer, and Black Dog. Whenever I heard them on the radio, I would stop what I was doing and just listen.
" I also feel the soul of our Neanderthal ancestors battling the cold and Grey glaciers for a morsel of food"
It's cool that you said this. This is the first part of three "Overmyth" tracks. It's supposed to be like the beginning of a darkness that comes over early man. Parts 2 and 3 are still in the works. I'm kind of jumping back and forth between them. Hopefully part two is finished first. You know, chronology and all.
Growing up in the plains of the midwest america, I not only knew, but am related to a lot of farmers. I don't think they would be such assholes if it weren't for the bankers. So, I can jump on board with the being angry at bankers, but farmers hold a spot in my heart, and bloodline.
"Anti-industrial" elaborate on that. I'd really like to know how you came to this.
I'm glad you liked this one. There is a select handful of people here that I always look forward to hearing feedback from while I'm making tracks. You, sir, are one of them.
Not exactly comedy, but interesting none the less. I like it when artists take a chance and try something avant-garde. It is what pushes music forwards. Great job M'lady en rouge. (BTW are you named after the Chris de-Burgh song?)
Cru
Hi Cru :)
yes not exactly comedy , I know ..but it's funny to me .
yes I was in love with that song of chris de burgh , especially when I was 21-22years old , when I had just come to here ..but now , I'm different .
thank you much much steve for checking this out and the comment .
:)
Elena
Nicely done. Captures the feeling of the title perfectly. I also like how it intricately builds in a strong ambient style.
My fav moment song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUCLW6o4Q1Q
peace
Cru
Love that guitar to open up with some sweet strings. Melencholy but sweet , almost bitter-sweet as a melody. like a modern day Pachelbel's Canon approach.
great job. The second half almost sound like a soldier coming home from the war. excited to be returning, sad at the destruction all around him. Nice adaigo tempo in the second half. Congrats!
Steve
Will need to check that out, Steve. I really appreciate all the leads you give me. Very sorry that I didn't respond sooner. We DO need to reconnect and grab a coffee sometime soon, as you suggested. So nice to have a fellow Looperman members here in Ottawa.
Hey my pleasure to add my thoughts for you. And remember they are only my opinions so take that for what it is worth. That being said, upon further listening what I think I would do differently is that you have this awesome build up and I was anticipating an explosion of sound or something but you brought it down with no percussion, just some intriguing synth melodies. That became sort of a meh moment for me listening. It´s for me in the arranging of the build-up and denouement of the track, if that makes sense to you.
Cru
The reasoning behind that was to show the emptiness of space, but you are not the first that has suggested this. The idea comes better to fruitition in the beginning. My friend that I showed this track to, before uploading, had the same critique.
So I actually agree with you, I could have made some kind of explosion of sound to signal a mission failure or something. Rises, percussion and bass have been difficult for me. But I have fixed 2 of the 3 in this track ;)
I do think that it can be quite personal whether or not someone likes that denouement of the track, but I thoroughly agree with you that if I tried to make a track for a wide audience, the rise should be solved in this manner. Thanks for your time! I will keep your advice in mind the next time I will make a track!
- Tom
Geez Louise. Great job. Some parts of your vocal delivery remind me ever so slightly of Siouxsie Sioux. And I love the minimalistic approach and sometimes casio like delivery. Always a treat to hear you sing. i remember back in the day encouraging you to do more of that and you have over the years so Bravo!
Steve
I too remember that you helped encourage me in this direction, and I thank you! It's funny that you mentioned Siouxsie... later in the evening after you posted this, my wife and I were getting a buzz and watching youtube. We found a little documentary about siouxsie. It was quite funny, like a bunch of her friends being interviewed while kissing her #####. The only person (sort of) in her band who was mentioned was Marco Pironi (of Adam and the Ants), who was just thrown in there in her first show as guitarist. Nothing about Steve Severin or how Robert Smith probably played a lot of guitar on here early albums. Oh well, it was funny. The "casio like delivery" idea seems to be becoming more common, though I never really thought about it. I know that many casio instruments have a signature sound, but I never though about it in terms of "delivery," which puts it more directly than I've heard. I'm happy I could get a song done in the midst of all the inst building and other hard work. Thank you for listening and encouraging!
So the first 1:35 was absolutely mesmerizing. completely loved it. then it kind of dragged along a bit until the last 1:45 then again amazing electro sounds. So this is a tune I want you to play with because there are moments of genius running throughout.
great work
Cru
To be honest, this is the first time I have made an electro track, even though I use the electro music theory of SeamlessR in a lot of my songs! Until I joined this site I have been experimenting with EDM and micro genres. Thanks a lot for the feedback, but I do have a question. Did it drag along because of the length? Because I repeated the melody? Or was it because of the drop in volume and timbre around 2:20?
If you have the time, I would love to hear what made it drag along according to you, for future tracks :)
Also, thank you for calling my track mesmerizing and saying that it has moments of genius throughout! It's awesome that you think that.
Ahh I used to love this song back in the day. As long as you don´t prance around in a video wearing some pink mesh shirt that you rip whilst flaying around on your bedroom floor like a dying fish...I´m OK with it! ;-)
Cru
Fantastic, that sloe cure for VD did not work. And now VD is rampant again among the lands. Now that VD is raging everywhere bringing sores and pusfilled scabs for everyone who crosses his slow dearth march towards Golgotha I expect we will get some more of this angst filled pile driving industrial solvent for our aural chambers. It serves us right in the end. The sinner draws near, preying upon our fears , quenching his thirst in the blood stained world of pop music bringing steel hammers and iron cables crashing among the millennials. bringing forth....err a wow, ok yeah I'm in a dark mood tonight.. geez! Anyhow liked the song. Welcome back.
Cru Cru Cray Cray!
Hey there. So I went to download the stems. The only stems that actually worked were your main vocals, for some reason all the instruments and drums did not. No worries though. I made my own hauntingly melancholy mix of this work as an alternative idea.
Nice song BTW and great vocals. https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/183814
Cru
thank you cru, all the vocals I use are loops. I'm kinda a collector of choral loops. most are from Magix soundpool, looperman, and searching on the internet. I think the most powerful instrument is usually the human voice.
hope that helps
thank you so much.
Love that into. Your voice reminds me a little of David Sylvian on this one. 2:40 that sound section is brilliant. I can hear echoes of Bowie as well in this one and even a touch of Bauhaus. really cool stuff. great job
Steve
Beautiful work. I love how it builds. percussion @:47 threw me off a bit but it resolves itself in the full kick and muted snares that come after it. Bravo
Cru
Looking up at the stars through the cypress trees, wading through the brown green knee deep muck. I use guitar rig 5, this setting was Brookside. I like the delays and how it fattened up the low end. Most of the time I use atmo guitar setting, less delay. Sometimes you just have to try out each 'til you find that sweet sound for each piece. Thanks Cru :D
This is not Disco. The intro is insane in it´s syncopation. This is deep house M´lady. This belongs in a seedy NYC club being spun by Danny Tenaglia or Victor Calderone, maybe even the late Peter Rauhoffer. The guitars at 4:35 are a bit over compressed. 5:38 we lose the plot a little bit (I have done that a few times myself) So outside of the over compressed guitars muddling my ears from 4:35 to 5:38 we have an interesting tune. I think in the mixdown if we back off the compression and add a little depth to some of the tracks it will sound just a bit better, but I like the idea and where you are going with this. keep at this one.
Steve
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Great Title, Nice intro, I like the kick and high hat only intro. This might be the most compression I have heard you use on a finished tune so far. Musically it´s a nice expression of various phrases and cello rifts. 1.34 is cool with that bass line and a simple piano. the breakbeats are also nice. I think you could layer a nice guitar screaming over the top of the phrases from about 2:30 to 3:27. 4.04 a simple mood change. Piano is perfect in this. Simple but effective. have you evr thought about using a phaser effect on the cello? not that it is needed or wanted here but just a random thought! 5:53 is a nice chorus sound. Nice Build at 6:35. 7:00 you almost get a fiddle effect for the sound. 8:09 nice break again. Piano again leads the way. So the ending on the piano is the right idea. and you end with it an E minor chord on the piano, but play one more note a piano playing c major chord and it will be a perfect ending because it will remind the listener of the tasteful piano structure you developed earlier in the tune. I liked it it has the structure ideas of some of your earlier songs but we get a cello instead of a guitar. It was the subtle musical choices in the piece that swung me over to the favourable side. you get a pack of pasties for your efforts!!
Crexit
It's true that my nuts are quite numb, mostly from the stutter effects I have been applying to them.
It's an interesting title and I find myself quite subtracted to you (because we are opposites).
I'm not that keen on the layered cello intro before the kick and hat enter. Hard to explain why though it was the very first thing I came up with for the track and everything grew out of it.
For the last few months I have been applying a limiter to nearly every track as a master effect. I'm quite concerned about my blocky waveforms but I prefer the louder, more powerful sounds. You must tell me if I've overdone the limiting.
"1.34 is cool with that bass line"
Yes, very busy and intricate bass. I've got a series of intros before the proper track really starts around 1:30 with the piano and bass. And then lots of dnb breaks are introduced.
"could layer a nice guitar screaming"
Indeed though I'm barely playing guitar anymore and have become pretty average at it. Cello has totally taken over. I really hope the guitar magic will return. It's a shame to waste the ability as I still think of it as my main instrument.
"Piano is perfect"
I think it's decent and a bit of a surprise in dnb, as is the cello. Though you fully expect there to be some cello in drum 'n' cell.
I haven't really tried phaser on cello. Not an effect I use often. Can sound a bit fake and over the top.
"5:53 is a nice chorus sound"
That's partly a choir pad.
"Nice Build at 6:35"
It's getting heavier now. And then a fiddle? Like a violin? Maybe. It's distorted cello.
"8:09 nice break again"
Nice to come down again. 8:07-8:09 is a cool delayed snippet of cello. Sounds like it has wah on it.
I will try your piano ending idea.
A pack of pasties? Are they sweets? Or are they like Cornish paasties?
Thanks for the details...
*On account of all the food you get through listening to my epic tracks. Don't forget to clean the crumbs off before bed.
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Creepy, entangling and an evocative piece of work Aaron. oh and damn good!
Steve
The spaghetti western thing was totally unintentional, but once it was pointed out, I liked it, and ran with it.
Ah yes. The angsty nineties Seattle sound. One of my favorite genres. Not only because I plunged head first into music during the nineties, but because Seattle is just a couple hours from here, and I was heavily exposed to it. So, much like I said in my reply to Evan, I'm sure the influence bled in.
Sabbath has been one of my favorites ever since I was about 5 years old. there were 4 songs from back then that I credit as the door way to my love for metal. Iron Man, Another Brick In the Wall pt.2, Tom Sawyer, and Black Dog. Whenever I heard them on the radio, I would stop what I was doing and just listen.
" I also feel the soul of our Neanderthal ancestors battling the cold and Grey glaciers for a morsel of food"
It's cool that you said this. This is the first part of three "Overmyth" tracks. It's supposed to be like the beginning of a darkness that comes over early man. Parts 2 and 3 are still in the works. I'm kind of jumping back and forth between them. Hopefully part two is finished first. You know, chronology and all.
Growing up in the plains of the midwest america, I not only knew, but am related to a lot of farmers. I don't think they would be such assholes if it weren't for the bankers. So, I can jump on board with the being angry at bankers, but farmers hold a spot in my heart, and bloodline.
"Anti-industrial" elaborate on that. I'd really like to know how you came to this.
I'm glad you liked this one. There is a select handful of people here that I always look forward to hearing feedback from while I'm making tracks. You, sir, are one of them.
Take care up there.
Aaron.
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Cru
yes not exactly comedy , I know ..but it's funny to me .
yes I was in love with that song of chris de burgh , especially when I was 21-22years old , when I had just come to here ..but now , I'm different .
thank you much much steve for checking this out and the comment .
:)
Elena
on A Moment by DijamMusic
My fav moment song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUCLW6o4Q1Q
peace
Cru
Thank you for your great feedback I really appreciated mate
I am glad you had fav moment mate.
Thanks again.
Jamid
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Steve
I really appreciate your kindness and the words .
:)
Elena
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Cru
on Post War Etude by Orlando51
great job. The second half almost sound like a soldier coming home from the war. excited to be returning, sad at the destruction all around him. Nice adaigo tempo in the second half. Congrats!
Steve
With appreciation______Orlando
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Steve
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Cru
So I actually agree with you, I could have made some kind of explosion of sound to signal a mission failure or something. Rises, percussion and bass have been difficult for me. But I have fixed 2 of the 3 in this track ;)
I do think that it can be quite personal whether or not someone likes that denouement of the track, but I thoroughly agree with you that if I tried to make a track for a wide audience, the rise should be solved in this manner. Thanks for your time! I will keep your advice in mind the next time I will make a track!
- Tom
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Steve
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great work
Cru
If you have the time, I would love to hear what made it drag along according to you, for future tracks :)
Also, thank you for calling my track mesmerizing and saying that it has moments of genius throughout! It's awesome that you think that.
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Cru
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Cru Cru Cray Cray!
Thanks, man. Good to be back.
I can't let the place start getting too pretty. Gotta keepvsome grit about.
Laters.
Aaron.
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Nice song BTW and great vocals.
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/183814
Cru
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much respect
Cru
hope that helps
thank you so much.
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good work.
cru
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Steve
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I would categorize this under Dub-step and not chill out. Interesting work though, good luck on making more tunes for us!
Cru
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Steve
I put it in House after your comment Steve .
thank you much much for all the things you have mentioned .
I'll think about your suggestions and idea .
Elena