Hey my pleasure to add my thoughts for you. And remember they are only my opinions so take that for what it is worth. That being said, upon further listening what I think I would do differently is that you have this awesome build up and I was anticipating an explosion of sound or something but you brought it down with no percussion, just some intriguing synth melodies. That became sort of a meh moment for me listening. It´s for me in the arranging of the build-up and denouement of the track, if that makes sense to you.
Cru
The reasoning behind that was to show the emptiness of space, but you are not the first that has suggested this. The idea comes better to fruitition in the beginning. My friend that I showed this track to, before uploading, had the same critique.
So I actually agree with you, I could have made some kind of explosion of sound to signal a mission failure or something. Rises, percussion and bass have been difficult for me. But I have fixed 2 of the 3 in this track ;)
I do think that it can be quite personal whether or not someone likes that denouement of the track, but I thoroughly agree with you that if I tried to make a track for a wide audience, the rise should be solved in this manner. Thanks for your time! I will keep your advice in mind the next time I will make a track!
- Tom
Geez Louise. Great job. Some parts of your vocal delivery remind me ever so slightly of Siouxsie Sioux. And I love the minimalistic approach and sometimes casio like delivery. Always a treat to hear you sing. i remember back in the day encouraging you to do more of that and you have over the years so Bravo!
Steve
I too remember that you helped encourage me in this direction, and I thank you! It's funny that you mentioned Siouxsie... later in the evening after you posted this, my wife and I were getting a buzz and watching youtube. We found a little documentary about siouxsie. It was quite funny, like a bunch of her friends being interviewed while kissing her butt. The only person (sort of) in her band who was mentioned was Marco Pironi (of Adam and the Ants), who was just thrown in there in her first show as guitarist. Nothing about Steve Severin or how Robert Smith probably played a lot of guitar on here early albums. Oh well, it was funny. The "casio like delivery" idea seems to be becoming more common, though I never really thought about it. I know that many casio instruments have a signature sound, but I never though about it in terms of "delivery," which puts it more directly than I've heard. I'm happy I could get a song done in the midst of all the inst building and other hard work. Thank you for listening and encouraging!
So the first 1:35 was absolutely mesmerizing. completely loved it. then it kind of dragged along a bit until the last 1:45 then again amazing electro sounds. So this is a tune I want you to play with because there are moments of genius running throughout.
great work
Cru
To be honest, this is the first time I have made an electro track, even though I use the electro music theory of SeamlessR in a lot of my songs! Until I joined this site I have been experimenting with EDM and micro genres. Thanks a lot for the feedback, but I do have a question. Did it drag along because of the length? Because I repeated the melody? Or was it because of the drop in volume and timbre around 2:20?
If you have the time, I would love to hear what made it drag along according to you, for future tracks :)
Also, thank you for calling my track mesmerizing and saying that it has moments of genius throughout! It's awesome that you think that.
Ahh I used to love this song back in the day. As long as you don´t prance around in a video wearing some pink mesh shirt that you rip whilst flaying around on your bedroom floor like a dying fish...I´m OK with it! ;-)
Cru
Yeah I´m back again. really really liking this work. and a Canadian rapping, well that´s just the icing on the cake ehh?? Perfect timing, great sync of consonants to the rhythm which just separates the men from the boys in the world of rap. Love the ethereal intro. mucho respecto compadre!
Cru
Fantastic, that sloe cure for VD did not work. And now VD is rampant again among the lands. Now that VD is raging everywhere bringing sores and pusfilled scabs for everyone who crosses his slow dearth march towards Golgotha I expect we will get some more of this angst filled pile driving industrial solvent for our aural chambers. It serves us right in the end. The sinner draws near, preying upon our fears , quenching his thirst in the blood stained world of pop music bringing steel hammers and iron cables crashing among the millennials. bringing forth....err a wow, ok yeah I'm in a dark mood tonight.. geez! Anyhow liked the song. Welcome back.
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Hey there. So I went to download the stems. The only stems that actually worked were your main vocals, for some reason all the instruments and drums did not. No worries though. I made my own hauntingly melancholy mix of this work as an alternative idea.
Nice song BTW and great vocals. https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/183814
Cru
thank you cru, all the vocals I use are loops. I'm kinda a collector of choral loops. most are from Magix soundpool, looperman, and searching on the internet. I think the most powerful instrument is usually the human voice.
hope that helps
thank you so much.
Love that into. Your voice reminds me a little of David Sylvian on this one. 2:40 that sound section is brilliant. I can hear echoes of Bowie as well in this one and even a touch of Bauhaus. really cool stuff. great job
Steve
Beautiful work. I love how it builds. percussion @:47 threw me off a bit but it resolves itself in the full kick and muted snares that come after it. Bravo
Cru
Looking up at the stars through the cypress trees, wading through the brown green knee deep muck. I use guitar rig 5, this setting was Brookside. I like the delays and how it fattened up the low end. Most of the time I use atmo guitar setting, less delay. Sometimes you just have to try out each 'til you find that sweet sound for each piece. Thanks Cru :D
This is not Disco. The intro is insane in it´s syncopation. This is deep house M´lady. This belongs in a seedy NYC club being spun by Danny Tenaglia or Victor Calderone, maybe even the late Peter Rauhoffer. The guitars at 4:35 are a bit over compressed. 5:38 we lose the plot a little bit (I have done that a few times myself) So outside of the over compressed guitars muddling my ears from 4:35 to 5:38 we have an interesting tune. I think in the mixdown if we back off the compression and add a little depth to some of the tracks it will sound just a bit better, but I like the idea and where you are going with this. keep at this one.
Steve
So this one was a cool entry in the contest. I liked the remix, I listened to the soundcloud one as well. I liked the mood it evoked with the reverses on the vocals. I was thinking on the chorus it would be cool to add a (lower in vol) track about a 5thchord away to create a harmony effect. Felt like it was a techno-emo valentine ;-) Anyhoo thanks for entering the contest, you did well in the 21 songs I had to judge.
Steve
Thanks for taking the time out to have a listen and review my track - much appreciated! Yeah I agree and I think it needs a little more somewhere in the verse as well to be honest. I may revisit it sometime and see what I can do with it. Thanks again though.
I very much enjoyed this one. I like the placement of the guitar in the mix in subtle positions. The mixing and arrangement of instruments is sublime. Great job!
Steve
Hey Eric. Yes I would need the stems with no effects as I would add in my own. But I could also use the ones with effects. if you wish to send me all the stems I would love to remix the whole track, that would be fun indeed. In Acid I had to either render the isolated track, or just right click on the track properties to save the stem. Not sure about logic.
Steve
I loved the choir on this one, with that muted bell, and would love to remix this one. let me know. Great job on the contest BTW, and thanks for joining in.
Cru!
Thanks for the oppurtunity!! It was nice to see how positive everyone is and I'm looking forward to future contests. Would love to see a remix done of this!!
So a serious congrats on winning the contest. This is a beautiful composition, my wife and I thoroughly enjoyed listening to it. It builds so sweetly and that voice is ethereal. the melancholy of distance though actually seems hopeful that love will be joined together.I agree with Promenade as he describes Wagner's Parsifal. I hate Wagner for his Anti-semitism, but the man made some of the most serene music ever. this tune is in that stratosphere. I can say enough how much this tune moved me, so again congrats on such a fine work.
Steve
thank you steve, you don't know how much this means to me. that I may have found something I'm good at. As a newby I have alot to learn but thanks to the looperman community I've also learned alot just happy my music can touch people. it is a great honor.
Thanks for the props Eric, but it´s only a minor in music, my true major is in Marketing. ;-). Great tune Eric, you took the Rik Ocaesek comment to heart as I see. SAW isd easy in hindsight, but I give great credit to them for innovating a unique sound that was not heard at the time of there Zeitgeist. This song you did, is so awesome. eighties sound, but I love your vocals. I would love to enhance the stem, so let me know if you want that, and I think it needs to be a little louder in the mix. but seriously great job.
Steve
Thanks, Steve. I really wasn't sure if this did sound 80's at all. I'm actually a bit surprised at the vocals. Three very different vocal styles in the same song. Not quite sure what to make of that.
Anyway, yes I'd be very interested in having you enhance the stem. I'd like to see what you can do with it.
Should I output it entirely without any effects? And, would you want a stem of the instrument tracks all together (i.e., without the vocal) so you can work on the vocals in context?
There are actually about 5 separate vocal tracks I think, including the "echo" vocals at the end of the verses. I should be able to bounce them all down into one vocal stem, but you might want me to keep them separated if you think that you might be applying different effects to different parts of the vocal.
Let me know how you want the stems. In the meantime, I'll research how to produce stems in Logic Pro. (Have never done it before.)
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So I actually agree with you, I could have made some kind of explosion of sound to signal a mission failure or something. Rises, percussion and bass have been difficult for me. But I have fixed 2 of the 3 in this track ;)
I do think that it can be quite personal whether or not someone likes that denouement of the track, but I thoroughly agree with you that if I tried to make a track for a wide audience, the rise should be solved in this manner. Thanks for your time! I will keep your advice in mind the next time I will make a track!
- Tom
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Steve
on In Case of Moon Disaster - A Space Odyssey by Allochtune
great work
Cru
If you have the time, I would love to hear what made it drag along according to you, for future tracks :)
Also, thank you for calling my track mesmerizing and saying that it has moments of genius throughout! It's awesome that you think that.
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Thanks, man. Good to be back.
I can't let the place start getting too pretty. Gotta keepvsome grit about.
Laters.
Aaron.
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Nice song BTW and great vocals.
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/183814
Cru
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much respect
Cru
hope that helps
thank you so much.
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good work.
cru
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I would categorize this under Dub-step and not chill out. Interesting work though, good luck on making more tunes for us!
Cru
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I put it in House after your comment Steve .
thank you much much for all the things you have mentioned .
I'll think about your suggestions and idea .
Elena
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I very much enjoyed this one. I like the placement of the guitar in the mix in subtle positions. The mixing and arrangement of instruments is sublime. Great job!
Steve
your possitive idea means alot to me .
:)
Elena
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Steve
Anyway, yes I'd be very interested in having you enhance the stem. I'd like to see what you can do with it.
Should I output it entirely without any effects? And, would you want a stem of the instrument tracks all together (i.e., without the vocal) so you can work on the vocals in context?
There are actually about 5 separate vocal tracks I think, including the "echo" vocals at the end of the verses. I should be able to bounce them all down into one vocal stem, but you might want me to keep them separated if you think that you might be applying different effects to different parts of the vocal.
Let me know how you want the stems. In the meantime, I'll research how to produce stems in Logic Pro. (Have never done it before.)
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us producers gotta keep at it!
check the vid man
PEACE
(LF)
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Great job guys.
Cru