I like your nick name! =D
And also your music, just listened to the more mellow rock type of a track you have up here the other day and enjoyed it very much but didn't have the chance to log in and tell you at the time.
The piano here is just notes or not even notes, just dots placed on the piano roll and they sound kind of weird on their own actually but somehow they melt in anyway. I like them a lot my self though.
Very Cool track... It really needs Bass rolling on the bottom
would put a lock on the groove...
Voices are in a good place and sound good, the Keys keep
the hole track moving in a solid way...
But a thumping bass would save the day.... :-)
And a Guitar with something little to say...
Hi TG, yes the bass!! Always forget about it somehow...going to try to add some and sort it out.
There is a "guitar"(synth plug-in) in there but it doesn't talk enough I guess, it had nothing much to say. Maybe adding some more of that too.
Hey SJ, it's been a while since I've heard one of your tracks and my have you grown!! I love the direction you are taking your music. Keep on experimenting it's how we learn!! Great Job.
Click "try em'" and download to your computer. The demo version mastering limiter (along with some other plugins) is free to use and will keep your music from clipping in the future. It's a quite effective and easy tool to use and can be very beneficial to any mix. I'd suggest giving it a try!
I actually like the mix on this one. Sure there is what to my ear sound like some lossiness on some of the sounds used, and the drums could be a tad louder in my humble opinion, but the whole structure is great. I thoroughly enjoyed this one. Beautiful piece.
hi. very nicely played! still I don't like some of the huge reverbs in the background. again it's only my personal preference. I had a chance to listen to your track earlier in the morning and again later. I tried my own arrangement on the accapella: https://soundcloud.com/promenade2239/silence-ft-courtney-odom-and-ferryterry it's very 'fused' haha.
Thanks for some inspiration. Alex
Very nice! It's silence all over as people are listening. Great atmosphere as the track rides out. Nice work! Glad the ableton live course worked out for you.
Hauntingly beautiful. I love the mood of this track. Nice piano intro and bed laid down underneath those amazing vocals! Same comment for the piano ending...sweet.
This is sounding good to me. Love those arp's and the swirling pad effects. The drum work is interesting and it's got plenty of "umph" The waveform doesn't look completely like a brick so your nearly there. I'm sure with a little more tweaking you'll get it sounding exactly how you want it.
To my ears it sounds fine anyway.
Cheers for sharing.
FR
Ok here is my take on this. There is a little bit of clipping I hear, lower your headroom before compressing. Your musical taste is much more eclectic than I gave you credit for my dear. I really like this though. My thoughts on effects are this....when you first get a hold of a new toy you want to try everything and you want to hear the effect slapping you across the face. But as you go on you learn when to hold back and when to use it effectively, and that just takes time and practice. So keep doing these segues as they will help you grow. I have about 26(90 min) old cassette tapes of material (from back in the day) that will never see the light of day because most of them were practice songs. For me listening to Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music, and Also Brian Eno was a master class in how to arrange sounds subtly and effectively. Some musicians used to complain that no one can hear themselves on a Bryan Ferry track which could have up to 30 musicians on it, but the whole sound together is what made it lush and vibrant...tasteful. so keep on keeping on.
Cru
Hi Steve!
Well, I still didn't lower the volume which I really should have and am going too because if I turn the limiter off, the master volume thing turns all red...the good thing is that I now actually understand why and so forth. So going to fix that later.
About the very cool new effects in Ableton - I turned some of them off now and tweaked some others. I'm hearing you there but Im still a little too found of them to hold back all the way. But maybe at the next tweaking.
About your old stash of practice songs - this Looperman account with a maximum of 50 songs (I'm on my 49th now, some of them are hidden) is my stash of practice songs I guess. Too bad people have to hear them!! =D
But I actually don't post ALL of them, I have an other stash in my daw that never will see the light off day.
Well, anyway thanks for the feedback and for sharing your thoughts Steve and I hope all is well with you.
the idea here was to get the 'realistic' and 'transparent' sound of each instrument as possible.
Adding effects is ok but ultimately it will always distort the original message. Again: try taking off the effects!
Automated phaser/flanger or similar effect on drums... - truly it's just some crazy idea for me!
Also I noticed that you're using Ableton now but ultimately DAW does not make any sound. It's just an another interesting experience and at first it makes you believe that from now you will create better sounds. Bullshit.
It is just an another interesting toy.
My only advice would be: stick with the music that you love and simply keep going!
Listening to Skalpel now - really groovy and good tasting music.
I see what you mean about keeping the sounds crisp and clean and taking off the effects - which I did after the first rendering but I put some new ones back on because I really dig that echo effect on the drums and the vocal sample and all the rest.
But I tried to keep it in only a few places and not along the entire track so I tried automate it which wasn't really succesful.
But I guess we have somewhat different preferences there - I also like the crispy clear drums but also flangered ones sometimes!
I could always make one version without the effects on and an other with, to see which one people prefer but I guess there isn't enough interest to listen at a lot of different versions of this track so maybe not anyway...ha ha.
About Ableton - oh you are partially wrong!! It does make a difference to the better, most definitely.
It has some great audio effects that doesn't exist in FL Studio for instance. And also a more creative workflow, which I just am trying to learn about now.
But of course it's not me suddenly being better, it's the people who created that DAW who did the whole improvement. It's easier to get good sounding material from Ableton. So if you create a great sounding track in FL you need to be really good. To do the same in Ableton you only need to be average...
Hey, maybe that's also what you meant?
Thanks again for the feedback, Alex!
Hey, this is fun to hear! I don't think of this as a brick waveform. I downloaded it to check in an audio editor, and there is only subtle clipping in a couple places. I think the mastering *level* is pretty close to good. The problems people are hearing may be due to clashing effects, or effects on the master channel that or too "wet" in their mix. Just what I thought of when listening. I like it a lot though. Has fun 15 years ago sound about it. Nicely done!
Hi Spiv!
You are right about the brick form, it could be worse! I guess the mastering level is due to the audio effect device I placed in the master channel - it worked wonders. But I probably should tweak it somehow to get rid of the small clipping and also simply turn the volume down a bit before rendering. There is a wet effect here and there which you could hear and I agree about it being too wet. I failed with the automation but am going to look into it some more later.
Thanks for checking the levels in your audio editor!!
15 years ago sound!
Ha ha ha, I like that. I actally think this is the closest I've come so far to make a track sound the way I like it to sound. This is my ultimate taste in music. And it's sounding really old! =D
Thanks for listening and for all the feedback.
Cheers!
I found that some pads were a bit too loud and took away from some of the drum glitchiness, making it sound like it has a bit more distortion (probably from the clipping).
Then again I absolutely hate using ableton and probably have no idea what I'm talking about xD
Hi AsidRayne!
Yeah, it's still too loud. I'm going to adjust the levels later to see if that makes any improvement.
Why do you hate using Ableton?
I totally love it so far, but I only have the free trial version and have had it for a week or so...maybe it'll change. =D
Thanks for listening and take care!
(I'm actually listening to your track as I write this. My ears!!! Talk about aggressive sounds.)
hi again SJ,
this is some very lovely electronic track with nice retro sounding synths.
Brick shaped waveform? This is a good example: https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/164089
haha
But seriously, I always enjoy listening to your tracks and this time is no difference. Good to see your music evolving.
Yes, at some point there's a lack of clarity on your recording. It's a bit like a 'filtered' listening. I thought you might try to take off the effects and simply observe what happens. Probably some synths already have reverbs (and other effects) so mixing different reverb effects might be the reason for unclear sound. Some proper order in applying effects might be eventually considered. There are many tutorials out there on YT, some amount of teory is needed at some point anyway. Myself I experiment a lot and ultimately I do not believe in strict rules. But of course there's no way around it.
Hope this makes sense. It doesn't change my perception of your track at all which again is a very lovely one.
Thanks also for checking my song and some nice words. I appreciate that.
Hi Alex!
I suddenly relised that there infact are worse looking wave forms...thanks for pointing that out. =D
The lack of clarity is probably because of the reverb/delay effect I turned on and off with automation troughout the track. I loved the effect it gave but it also clutters the mix too much...I tried to do a more fine tuned automation and not just the on/off type but the program would not let me do that. I need to look in to that some more to maybe figure it out later.
Very glad to hear that you liked this anyway!
All I can say about you and your mixing and mastering skills - don't get frustrated if it's not perfect right now. Just keep mixing. As your experience increases, it will steadily become easier to mix and master your music with a satisfactory end-result. You're improving. I can hear it. Good stuff! Keep on making beautiful music!
Hello EpicRecord!
Yes, I'm going to keep at it. This new Ableton daw is so fun to work with, but it's of course hard to grasp all the new features and learn how to use them in such a short time (one week to be more exact =D).
hi SJ, I started with listening the loops and acapella.
This is definitely your style! - some phased filtering and interesting choice of vocals. To me the song sounds very experimental, industrial-like. The 'drum and bass loop' is played far too slow (to me). But overall it is nicely merged together and this is your another good job. Best, Alex
Love the phased synth sounds with the vocals. You have come such a long way from when you first started. I think you have more eclectic tendencies in you then I do now...and it does you well. This is Brilliant. its futuristic and retro at the same time. It is Lagom.
Awesome work. I hope you win the challenge.
Steve
on U Got Me Ft MusicManSaul by SeriouslyJoking
really nice work !
And also your music, just listened to the more mellow rock type of a track you have up here the other day and enjoyed it very much but didn't have the chance to log in and tell you at the time.
The piano here is just notes or not even notes, just dots placed on the piano roll and they sound kind of weird on their own actually but somehow they melt in anyway. I like them a lot my self though.
Thanks a lot for listening and commenting!
on U Got Me Ft MusicManSaul by SeriouslyJoking
would put a lock on the groove...
Voices are in a good place and sound good, the Keys keep
the hole track moving in a solid way...
But a thumping bass would save the day.... :-)
And a Guitar with something little to say...
Peace...TG.
There is a "guitar"(synth plug-in) in there but it doesn't talk enough I guess, it had nothing much to say. Maybe adding some more of that too.
Thanks for pointing these things out!
Peace right back at you =) / SJ
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
Cheers,
Scott
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
http://www.masseyplugins.com/
Click "try em'" and download to your computer. The demo version mastering limiter (along with some other plugins) is free to use and will keep your music from clipping in the future. It's a quite effective and easy tool to use and can be very beneficial to any mix. I'd suggest giving it a try!
I actually like the mix on this one. Sure there is what to my ear sound like some lossiness on some of the sounds used, and the drums could be a tad louder in my humble opinion, but the whole structure is great. I thoroughly enjoyed this one. Beautiful piece.
ER
on Make Me Go ft Bonnie Rabson by SeriouslyJoking
on Silence Me All Over The Land Ft Courtney Odom by SeriouslyJoking
Thanks for some inspiration. Alex
Sorry for the very late response. I did listen to your track on Soundcloud, it sounded truly creative! As created by a mad scientist. :D
The issue with the reverb yet again, I know.
Take care and see you around as usual!
/ SJ :)
on Silence Me All Over The Land Ft Courtney Odom by SeriouslyJoking
I loved the course, too bad my trial version of Ableton expired..it's a really great daw.
Thanks for listening and take care!
/ SJ :)
on Silence Me All Over The Land Ft Courtney Odom by SeriouslyJoking
Take care and cheers!
/ SJ :)
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
To my ears it sounds fine anyway.
Cheers for sharing.
FR
Thanks for listening - I also like the "umph" effect.
=)
Take care and Cheers!
/ SJ
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
Cru
Well, I still didn't lower the volume which I really should have and am going too because if I turn the limiter off, the master volume thing turns all red...the good thing is that I now actually understand why and so forth. So going to fix that later.
About the very cool new effects in Ableton - I turned some of them off now and tweaked some others. I'm hearing you there but Im still a little too found of them to hold back all the way. But maybe at the next tweaking.
About your old stash of practice songs - this Looperman account with a maximum of 50 songs (I'm on my 49th now, some of them are hidden) is my stash of practice songs I guess. Too bad people have to hear them!! =D
But I actually don't post ALL of them, I have an other stash in my daw that never will see the light off day.
Well, anyway thanks for the feedback and for sharing your thoughts Steve and I hope all is well with you.
Take care!
/ SJ =)
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
The waveform shape has no meaning at all. Waveform itself does not make any sound.
Thare's some great polish duo making breakebeat by sampling old polish jazz recordings. check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQjywuV6Bw4
I tried this concept when remixing doudei's track https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/161561
the idea here was to get the 'realistic' and 'transparent' sound of each instrument as possible.
Adding effects is ok but ultimately it will always distort the original message. Again: try taking off the effects!
Automated phaser/flanger or similar effect on drums... - truly it's just some crazy idea for me!
Also I noticed that you're using Ableton now but ultimately DAW does not make any sound. It's just an another interesting experience and at first it makes you believe that from now you will create better sounds. Bullshit.
It is just an another interesting toy.
My only advice would be: stick with the music that you love and simply keep going!
Hope it's useful.
A.
I see what you mean about keeping the sounds crisp and clean and taking off the effects - which I did after the first rendering but I put some new ones back on because I really dig that echo effect on the drums and the vocal sample and all the rest.
But I tried to keep it in only a few places and not along the entire track so I tried automate it which wasn't really succesful.
But I guess we have somewhat different preferences there - I also like the crispy clear drums but also flangered ones sometimes!
I could always make one version without the effects on and an other with, to see which one people prefer but I guess there isn't enough interest to listen at a lot of different versions of this track so maybe not anyway...ha ha.
About Ableton - oh you are partially wrong!! It does make a difference to the better, most definitely.
It has some great audio effects that doesn't exist in FL Studio for instance. And also a more creative workflow, which I just am trying to learn about now.
But of course it's not me suddenly being better, it's the people who created that DAW who did the whole improvement. It's easier to get good sounding material from Ableton. So if you create a great sounding track in FL you need to be really good. To do the same in Ableton you only need to be average...
Hey, maybe that's also what you meant?
Thanks again for the feedback, Alex!
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
You are right about the brick form, it could be worse! I guess the mastering level is due to the audio effect device I placed in the master channel - it worked wonders. But I probably should tweak it somehow to get rid of the small clipping and also simply turn the volume down a bit before rendering. There is a wet effect here and there which you could hear and I agree about it being too wet. I failed with the automation but am going to look into it some more later.
Thanks for checking the levels in your audio editor!!
15 years ago sound!
Ha ha ha, I like that. I actally think this is the closest I've come so far to make a track sound the way I like it to sound. This is my ultimate taste in music. And it's sounding really old! =D
Thanks for listening and for all the feedback.
Cheers!
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
Then again I absolutely hate using ableton and probably have no idea what I'm talking about xD
But this is a very good track! :D
Yeah, it's still too loud. I'm going to adjust the levels later to see if that makes any improvement.
Why do you hate using Ableton?
I totally love it so far, but I only have the free trial version and have had it for a week or so...maybe it'll change. =D
Thanks for listening and take care!
(I'm actually listening to your track as I write this. My ears!!! Talk about aggressive sounds.)
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
this is some very lovely electronic track with nice retro sounding synths.
Brick shaped waveform? This is a good example: https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/164089
haha
But seriously, I always enjoy listening to your tracks and this time is no difference. Good to see your music evolving.
Yes, at some point there's a lack of clarity on your recording. It's a bit like a 'filtered' listening. I thought you might try to take off the effects and simply observe what happens. Probably some synths already have reverbs (and other effects) so mixing different reverb effects might be the reason for unclear sound. Some proper order in applying effects might be eventually considered. There are many tutorials out there on YT, some amount of teory is needed at some point anyway. Myself I experiment a lot and ultimately I do not believe in strict rules. But of course there's no way around it.
Hope this makes sense. It doesn't change my perception of your track at all which again is a very lovely one.
Thanks also for checking my song and some nice words. I appreciate that.
Best to you and till next time, Alex
I suddenly relised that there infact are worse looking wave forms...thanks for pointing that out. =D
The lack of clarity is probably because of the reverb/delay effect I turned on and off with automation troughout the track. I loved the effect it gave but it also clutters the mix too much...I tried to do a more fine tuned automation and not just the on/off type but the program would not let me do that. I need to look in to that some more to maybe figure it out later.
Very glad to hear that you liked this anyway!
Cheers!
/ SJ =)
on Come On by SeriouslyJoking
Yes, I'm going to keep at it. This new Ableton daw is so fun to work with, but it's of course hard to grasp all the new features and learn how to use them in such a short time (one week to be more exact =D).
Thanks for listening and take care!
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on Falling Ft Chaucie aka BoleteSoup by SeriouslyJoking
Gramo/Neo
on Falling Ft Chaucie aka BoleteSoup by SeriouslyJoking
This is definitely your style! - some phased filtering and interesting choice of vocals. To me the song sounds very experimental, industrial-like. The 'drum and bass loop' is played far too slow (to me). But overall it is nicely merged together and this is your another good job. Best, Alex
on Falling Ft Chaucie aka BoleteSoup by SeriouslyJoking
Awesome work. I hope you win the challenge.
Steve
on Falling Ft Chaucie aka BoleteSoup by SeriouslyJoking
on Falling Ft Chaucie aka BoleteSoup by SeriouslyJoking
Very nice work. Realy enjoyed the mix.
And btw I realy love her voice :)
class A drum and bass track!
stay tuned
joe
on Falling Ft Chaucie aka BoleteSoup by SeriouslyJoking
Compliments____Orlando
on Falling Ft Chaucie aka BoleteSoup by SeriouslyJoking
I'm still waiting for the love song though, how nice of you to remind me. ;)