otherwise you fear for the rest of your days waiting for the clip to click, then bang, your done, breathless. like this piece, takes your breath away quality mix and transitions, great sound, the music is the selling point the vocal clip is a great placement and the choir is lit, it sounds great on both speaker and headset mate back to back listens, had me poppin and strobing bro top top job.
Paul, how are you, friend? Well, I hope.
I will say that since I've been here, I have learned that the Valvedriver brand has definitely carved out a signature sound. It's been said that it does carry through in whichever genre I go with. Funny thing is, I can hear it, I can feel it, but I have no idea where exactly it comes from or even how to pinpoint it.
The choir bit in this track is from one of my favorite pieces, "Miserere mei, Deus". Although I'm not religious, (rather anti-religious, actually), it's still such a powerful piece. I had to use it.
I'm glad to hear that it sounds good on multiple systems To be honest, I've been pretty lazy about double checking on all my different tester systems. I just shoot it out there and hope for the best. lol.
Always good to hear from you, mister.
Take care.
Aaron.
Aaron I'm not yet 4 years in, you have been a regular listen for me, you also linked me to your older tracks too, so i know exactly what to expect from you, i love the industrial and metal elements in your pieces always, add the electronic edge too, its your own distinct style, we are friends and you always compliment me when i add darkness to work, which i love and respect because you always add from the man who does nothing but dark :))) this isn't dark, this is death, you shot me six times in the track that hardy bitch popping off shots, a track off fear and menace, when the dark lord V speaks you listen,
Aaron I'm not yet 4 years in, you have been a regular listen for me, you also linked me to your older tracks too, so i know exactly what to expect from you, i love the industrial and metal elements in your pieces always, add the electronic edge too, its your own distinct style, we are friends and you always compliment me when i add darkness to work, which i love and respect because you always add from the man who does nothing but dark :))) this isn't dark, this is death,
Hello ValveD...just listened to your track and right away I had a hundred different images that this track could represent... all of them being on the thunderous and piledriving side. It takes control right off the top and never regents.....enjoyed it a lot my friend.
Hello Glenn. I'm glad you stopped by. I always appreciate it when someone takes time for my work.
It's good that you had a hundred different images with this. When I make a track, I tend to try to paint with sound, hoping that it evokes something within the listeners mind, or heart. Your confirmation encourages me to continue.
Thank you again, Glenn.
Take care.
V.
What the hell? Dude, you been to the crossroads or what? This just fried the last few remaining brain cells I had left! Holy crap! Mastodon, Gojira, Metallica, I could go on. Man, this is drop tuned heavy guitar riffage like I've never heard from you before. I love the rhythm tones and the distortion and overdrive, super heavy. The articulation and expression, chord fingerings, chugs, palm mutes, pinch harmonics, whew! Progressive metal, stoner, sludge, alternative its a great mix. I think you've just set a new bar for yourself brother. I can't wait to see where it goes from here !!!
Eric, thanks for stopping by to listen to this, man. Your opinion is an important one. So, I appreciate that you took time to for this, and I'm glad you liked it.
" I think you've just set a new bar for yourself brother. I can't wait to see where it goes from here !!! "
Yeah, I'm kind of curious about that too! I have a WIP folder that I should probably dig around in for any old starts that need a revisiting.
Thanks again, brother. I really do appreciate it.
"I remember a time of chaos... ruined dreams... this wasted land. But most of all, I remember The ValveDriver. To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time..." Yes, this track definitely takes me back 10 years or so. I love the tension throughout this thing man, it grabs you and doesn't let go. I know you didn't label it as such and it lacks the fat saw wubs and deep bass growls but it does have a certain dubstep vibe to it. Which I like. A lot of tasty midrange stuff going on here and I especially love the screechy fm mutator thing, awesome bit of work with that. The choir is a genius element because it seems to represent the angels trying to contain the demons here. Solid track overall, and definitely a nice return to the origins of what we old alums wigged out on when the ValveDriver first dropped that Heavy Shit on us years ago.
Mr. Neo. I remember a time when I would get critiques from you, Evisma, Static Nomad, and all the other old timers. The fact that the critiques have lessened to few and far between just lets me know that I've finally gotten good. Finally.
In my synth based tracks, and even a few metal ones, I have always liked to add some form of dubstep synths. I like them too. When used right, they do have a particular attitude.
It's funny you mention angels and demons. That's more or less what this is about. As is most of my work. The conflict of good and evil. How the iniquity of man disguises itself in the clothing of righteousness. The title was taken from Psalms 51:5. "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me". I just tweaked the one word for the context of the song.
A little over a decade of darkness from the Valvedriver camp. And there's no sign of light on the horizon!
Thank you, Neo, for taking time. Your opinion is one that truly matters.
take care, brother.
Hello, my friend. I joined LM back in 2019, which seems like 100 years ago. But I didn't realize the amount of real talent here for quite awhile. Even then, it never occurred to me that I'd find works like yours here, for whatever reason. But I'm sure as hell glad I did. Among the heaps of praise I pile on, I realized that I haven't mentioned this - u always achieve as clean a sonic mix as it gets, one of the things I take pride in myself. It's an underrated feature, I'll tell u that. Because it's not a walk in the park to achieve that sometimes. The little things definitely do not go unnoticed by me. Like everything I've heard from u, this is mf superb dude. I'm glad I came across your work, you've inspired me to take that step and make my current project happen. I promise it wouldn't have otherwise. So my thanks really means something here. I'm still waiting to collaborate with u in some way before I'll consider the project truly completed, it wouldn't seem right otherwise.
Aaron, how ya doin?
I'm glad I could inspire you. It's always good to know that what you do makes others want to do bigger and better. For that, I thank you.
It took a lot of bad tracks to get to these good ones, as I'm sure you know. When I joined in 2012 I had some real ugly ones. But it was because the crowd back then were full of people who weren't afraid to leave constructive criticism. I'd say about 80% of what I know now, is because of those back then. I learned so much. I wish more members still did that. I mention it because, to me, that in itself is a great form of inspiration.
As far as collaborating on M. Squadd, get ahold of me over on Discord. Let me know exactly what you're looking for. We can discuss it over there.
Until then, take care.
Aaron.
Hi valve
This is excellently put together and the sound is also perfectly mastered.
To me it sounds like an amazing track for an exciting film so I would say cinamatic
Hiya, Rita.
Thank you! Cinematic seems the be the general consensus. For a long time I tried to get away from the cinematic sound, but as an artist before musician, I can't help but make images. In the case of music, I've learned that I basically just paint with sound. I start to see an image in my head as the track progresses, and then I just continue to create the soundtrack to whatever it is that I "see". So, Cinematic it is!
Thank you again!
Take care.
V.
I would say predominantly cinematic with a huge splash of trap and weird. Interesting and intriguing track that unfolds around your ears and surrounds you with a sense of something is coming but you don't know what it is. Mysterious. Kay0s
I can guarantee you that any Trap that might be in there is purely coincidental. That's a genre I don't listen to, so I really am not familiar with it. But I can agree with cinematic and weird. People have always told me that my non-metal work is very "soundtracky".
Either way, thank you for listening and commenting. It's much appreciated.
Take care.
V.
The intro reminds me on ok forget that its just kicked in Im loving the vibe gd sounding guitar solo work is impressive the chilled out bit with the vox is cool then coming bk into the depths of darkness great track man enjoyed my listen
You have incredible talent there. I am listening and figuring out the influences here - I'm hearing Black Sabbath, Linkin Park, Alien Ant Farm and a splash, just a splash of Velvet Underground (with the melodic pieces). The opening is something quite special. Gunfight at the OK Corral - has a real Western feel about it. So many interwoven sections of light and shade - this is Art, at its very best. Loved it. Kay0s
Kay0s, thank you for listening and commenting. You started out on the right path with Black Sabbath. But Linkin Park, Alien And Farm and Velvet Underground are a miss. I like Lou Reed a little, but not enough to call my self a fan. The other two, not a fan at all. Now, if you had said, Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Ministry, and UFOMammut, you would have been straight on.
I appreciate you taking the time, and I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Take care.
V.
Very tasty intro there, Mr. V. Could have gone anywhere from there and it went to an unexpectedly awesome place. Wasnt expecting all the guitars from you. Thought for sure the synths would come in and dominate after the intro. Nope, instead channeling the great Dirty B. Hinds and pretty well. You and I both know 2:20 is Mastodon-istic as all get-out. The kick assault leading up is pretty badass. Bridge section is really well done with the vocal samples. 4:54 we get the title which I was not expecting and was neat to discover without it being previously disclosed in the description. Final heavy section and the outro are very fitting, leaving this with zero things to critique. You've improved since I last listened to your stuff.
Solid "Nice Track Bro!", bro. Heavier and more guitar driven and badass than I was expecting. I expected badass, just not so guitary and was pleasantly surprised by it.
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Mr. E.
"Thought for sure the synths would come in"
Metal is what I know best. The synth driven stuff was a pacifier until I figured out the metal. I still dick with synths, but not as much. "
2:20. I may have went a tad Mastodoniacal. It wasn't intentional, but as you well know, influences happen.
Vocals are Alan Watts. If you haven't, you should look into him. He's quite profound.
Originally, this was about life, but when I heard his speech, I had to use it. Not sure if he meant it the way I took it, or if he was using the bell to illustrate that...all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness...you know the rest
.
"You've improved since I last listened to your stuff."
That's good to hear, and thank you for saying so.
I hope to hear some new work from you soon, man. It's been far too long. Just dive the fuck in, and start swimmin'. Let the current carry you to a well earned NTB.
Take care, Mr. E.
Mr. V.
great intro are love the wind blowing behind the guitar. as all th rock elements and the magic metal riffs, fire bass bro, really cuts through, the mid frequencies are spot on everything is clearly heard, the drum track is lit too great kick and snare the distortion in place sounds top notch, that vox was a massive surprise, but so F#ckin good with the lead behind it then it just busts open again, you can clearly see this track meant a lot to you and the work you put it can be heard, and matching up the outro to the intro with the wind was a fine finish, stand up proud bro and take the desrved props, and why the f#ck not, i'll try anything i'll collab on a track with ya screaming like a banshee lol, remember Ozzy is from my City.
Thanks, Paul. I appreciate the kind words.
Funny thing about the "wind" is that when I was making that, my original intent was to recreate the sound of an ultrasound picking up a heartbeat. But as I was tweaking the settings, I got distracted for a minute and when I got back to it, the "wind" sound was still playing and I really liked it, so I went with it. I guess the ultrasound thing will be for another project, huh?
Take care.
V.
That's the crunch I covet man. Jeez I could go crazy with some of the elements In this, especially with the project I've been focusing on. This is so dope man.
Thanks, man. I'm glad you like it. Now that I've finished this, I can focus more on building a few riffs and whatnots for you to use in your projects. I was, as the cool kids these days say, hyper-focused on this bad-boy for a few weeks.
just played it full blast on the stereo - still can't fault a thing. it sounds fantastic! solid, balanced, and so close to perfection. i see why this one felt right. the frequency spectrum seems spot on - looks like you've nailed it.
i struggle with that too. sometimes everything clicks on the first try, other times it's endless tweaking that only makes things worse. honestly, i don't have a set workflow, which is part of the problem. i know the theory, but the execution often falls short.
i should use reference tracks, but i'm usually too lazy - not exactly a role model for improvement. if it doesnt work, it goes to the wip folder, never to be touched again, and then i half-ass the next thing. typical millennial - got the perseverance of a cigarette at an AA meeting.
used to be way easier to do on amphetamines, but as it turns out that's no long-term solution either (:
Oh yes. The WIP folder. It should be called the "Stopped-dead-in-it's-tracks,-never-to-be-seen-again,-and-if-it-is,-I'll-say-I'm-going-to-finish-it-someday,-then-throw-it-back-in-so-it-can-rot-in-the-dark" folder.
Typically, the only thing I have that could be considered a work flow is when I first start a new project, and I'm picking, assigning, and setting tones and effects on the instruments. Once that part is over, it's a total free-for-all. It's almost the equivalent of throwing a stack of papers in the air, and then sorting them out after they land.
Thanks for letting me know how it sounded on your system. I usually run mine through a few different ones, including the car. This one was a little elusive on finding that happy medium across them all. So, I appreciate the extra set of ears.
listening on my headphones at 4 am - this sounds incredible. can't find anything i didn't like. the mix is massive, full of energy, yet so clean. flawless to my ears. i'll check it on my stereo tomorrow.
the middle section was clever - a perfect breather between the high-energy parts, and alan watts too! bit of a fan myself :)
outstanding work, mate. thoroughly enjoying this!
Thanks, man! I appreciate that. This was one of those where I'm thoroughly pleased with it. Usually there's something that I'm not happy with when I finish, but I'm sick of trying to work it out, so I just call it done and cast it out. This one didn't have that. The only issue I had was getting the bass/mid/treble frequencies balanced evenly across all my different sound systems. So, when you listen on your stereo, please, let me know how it sounded, and if I need to make any adjustments.
Alan Watts has some very profound, deep, and insightful words. Definitely an open minded individual.
Thank you again.
Take care.
Aaron.
Killer track - so intricately layered and well made - absolutely reminds me of why people say classical music and heavy metal share a lot of commonalities. Beautiful composition and very fine craftmanship
Pseudo, thank you. I appreciate it. There are definitely a lot of similarities between metal and classical, but beyond the distortion, there are still so many differences. I like to think of it as if Metal is Classical's angry grandchild.
Thanks for the time and the comment. Again, I appreciate it.
Take care.
V
Damn - this is so cool - the guitars sounds are fantastic and it is so meticulously and brilliantly constructed and well produced - real trip on my headphones - not only is nothing out of place but everything is in just the right place. Metal is not a genre Ive listened to much is the more recent years but you are reminding me how good it can be. I cant imagine how long this took but however long it was worth it : )
Nonube, thank you for taking the time to listen and comment.
I don't think metal is something I'm capable of not listening to for any extended time. I've been a metalhead since the cold war. The adults back then always said "It's just a phase. He'll grow out of it.". Nope. Never did.
As far as how long it took, a total working time of 19 hours and some change. I think at least a good third of that time was just getting the mix balanced.
Anyhow, thanks again. I appreciate it.
Take care.
v
It sure is a brilliant sequencing, to my ears as if you played these guitars and bass instruments. Very realistic. I agree with your opinion about the psychedelic influences in your track. Yes it was kind of a trip, a bit rough, as if in a windy day.
Very well done
Best wishes, Anthony
on Shapen In Wickedness by ValveDriver
Take care.
V.
on Shapen In Wickedness by ValveDriver
I will say that since I've been here, I have learned that the Valvedriver brand has definitely carved out a signature sound. It's been said that it does carry through in whichever genre I go with. Funny thing is, I can hear it, I can feel it, but I have no idea where exactly it comes from or even how to pinpoint it.
The choir bit in this track is from one of my favorite pieces, "Miserere mei, Deus". Although I'm not religious, (rather anti-religious, actually), it's still such a powerful piece. I had to use it.
I'm glad to hear that it sounds good on multiple systems To be honest, I've been pretty lazy about double checking on all my different tester systems. I just shoot it out there and hope for the best. lol.
Always good to hear from you, mister.
Take care.
Aaron.
on Shapen In Wickedness by ValveDriver
on Shapen In Wickedness by ValveDriver
on Shapen In Wickedness by ValveDriver
It's good that you had a hundred different images with this. When I make a track, I tend to try to paint with sound, hoping that it evokes something within the listeners mind, or heart. Your confirmation encourages me to continue.
Thank you again, Glenn.
Take care.
V.
on Moss Mother II- Reality Is The Tolling Of The Bell by ValveDriver
" I think you've just set a new bar for yourself brother. I can't wait to see where it goes from here !!! "
Yeah, I'm kind of curious about that too! I have a WIP folder that I should probably dig around in for any old starts that need a revisiting.
Thanks again, brother. I really do appreciate it.
on Shapen In Wickedness by ValveDriver
In my synth based tracks, and even a few metal ones, I have always liked to add some form of dubstep synths. I like them too. When used right, they do have a particular attitude.
It's funny you mention angels and demons. That's more or less what this is about. As is most of my work. The conflict of good and evil. How the iniquity of man disguises itself in the clothing of righteousness. The title was taken from Psalms 51:5. "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me". I just tweaked the one word for the context of the song.
A little over a decade of darkness from the Valvedriver camp. And there's no sign of light on the horizon!
Thank you, Neo, for taking time. Your opinion is one that truly matters.
take care, brother.
on Shapen In Wickedness by ValveDriver
V.
on Shapen In Wickedness by ValveDriver
I'm glad I could inspire you. It's always good to know that what you do makes others want to do bigger and better. For that, I thank you.
It took a lot of bad tracks to get to these good ones, as I'm sure you know. When I joined in 2012 I had some real ugly ones. But it was because the crowd back then were full of people who weren't afraid to leave constructive criticism. I'd say about 80% of what I know now, is because of those back then. I learned so much. I wish more members still did that. I mention it because, to me, that in itself is a great form of inspiration.
As far as collaborating on M. Squadd, get ahold of me over on Discord. Let me know exactly what you're looking for. We can discuss it over there.
Until then, take care.
Aaron.
on In The Dreams Of The Damned by ValveDriver
This is excellently put together and the sound is also perfectly mastered.
To me it sounds like an amazing track for an exciting film so I would say cinamatic
Thank you! Cinematic seems the be the general consensus. For a long time I tried to get away from the cinematic sound, but as an artist before musician, I can't help but make images. In the case of music, I've learned that I basically just paint with sound. I start to see an image in my head as the track progresses, and then I just continue to create the soundtrack to whatever it is that I "see". So, Cinematic it is!
Thank you again!
Take care.
V.
on In The Dreams Of The Damned by ValveDriver
Either way, thank you for listening and commenting. It's much appreciated.
Take care.
V.
on Overmyth II - Cathedral Of The Witch by ValveDriver
on Moss Mother II- Reality Is The Tolling Of The Bell by ValveDriver
on Moss Mother II- Reality Is The Tolling Of The Bell by ValveDriver
I appreciate you taking the time, and I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Take care.
V.
on Moss Mother II- Reality Is The Tolling Of The Bell by ValveDriver
Solid "Nice Track Bro!", bro. Heavier and more guitar driven and badass than I was expecting. I expected badass, just not so guitary and was pleasantly surprised by it.
Great track man, thanks for sharing!
Mr. E.
"Thought for sure the synths would come in"
Metal is what I know best. The synth driven stuff was a pacifier until I figured out the metal. I still dick with synths, but not as much. "
2:20. I may have went a tad Mastodoniacal. It wasn't intentional, but as you well know, influences happen.
Vocals are Alan Watts. If you haven't, you should look into him. He's quite profound.
Originally, this was about life, but when I heard his speech, I had to use it. Not sure if he meant it the way I took it, or if he was using the bell to illustrate that...all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness...you know the rest
.
"You've improved since I last listened to your stuff."
That's good to hear, and thank you for saying so.
I hope to hear some new work from you soon, man. It's been far too long. Just dive the fuck in, and start swimmin'. Let the current carry you to a well earned NTB.
Take care, Mr. E.
Mr. V.
on Moss Mother II- Reality Is The Tolling Of The Bell by ValveDriver
Sounds very good.
Its well structured. I also really like the slow part with the vocal. Overall a great track.
Take care.
V
on Moss Mother II- Reality Is The Tolling Of The Bell by ValveDriver
Funny thing about the "wind" is that when I was making that, my original intent was to recreate the sound of an ultrasound picking up a heartbeat. But as I was tweaking the settings, I got distracted for a minute and when I got back to it, the "wind" sound was still playing and I really liked it, so I went with it. I guess the ultrasound thing will be for another project, huh?
Take care.
V.
on Moss Mother II- Reality Is The Tolling Of The Bell by ValveDriver
on Moss Mother II- Reality Is The Tolling Of The Bell by ValveDriver
you're very welcome.
just played it full blast on the stereo - still can't fault a thing. it sounds fantastic! solid, balanced, and so close to perfection. i see why this one felt right. the frequency spectrum seems spot on - looks like you've nailed it.
i struggle with that too. sometimes everything clicks on the first try, other times it's endless tweaking that only makes things worse. honestly, i don't have a set workflow, which is part of the problem. i know the theory, but the execution often falls short.
i should use reference tracks, but i'm usually too lazy - not exactly a role model for improvement. if it doesnt work, it goes to the wip folder, never to be touched again, and then i half-ass the next thing. typical millennial - got the perseverance of a cigarette at an AA meeting.
used to be way easier to do on amphetamines, but as it turns out that's no long-term solution either (:
all the best,
savino
Typically, the only thing I have that could be considered a work flow is when I first start a new project, and I'm picking, assigning, and setting tones and effects on the instruments. Once that part is over, it's a total free-for-all. It's almost the equivalent of throwing a stack of papers in the air, and then sorting them out after they land.
Thanks for letting me know how it sounded on your system. I usually run mine through a few different ones, including the car. This one was a little elusive on finding that happy medium across them all. So, I appreciate the extra set of ears.
on Moss Mother II- Reality Is The Tolling Of The Bell by ValveDriver
the middle section was clever - a perfect breather between the high-energy parts, and alan watts too! bit of a fan myself :)
outstanding work, mate. thoroughly enjoying this!
Alan Watts has some very profound, deep, and insightful words. Definitely an open minded individual.
Thank you again.
Take care.
Aaron.
on Electric Cicada by ValveDriver
Take care.
V.
on Electric Cicada by ValveDriver
Thanks for the time and the comment. Again, I appreciate it.
Take care.
V
on Electric Cicada by ValveDriver
I don't think metal is something I'm capable of not listening to for any extended time. I've been a metalhead since the cold war. The adults back then always said "It's just a phase. He'll grow out of it.". Nope. Never did.
As far as how long it took, a total working time of 19 hours and some change. I think at least a good third of that time was just getting the mix balanced.
Anyhow, thanks again. I appreciate it.
Take care.
v
on Electric Cicada by ValveDriver
Take care.
V.
on Electric Cicada by ValveDriver
Very well done
Best wishes, Anthony
Take care.
V.