So I managed to play this one on speakers and definitely can appreciate very solid bass foundation now. Good synth sounds, particulary I like that kind of drone synth sound pretty much, can't really label it very precisely - it adds some very nice, kind of organic and insect feel. I guess there are many different synth layers in here.
Also that female lead-in element (0:13) is very similar to some of your older works...
Overall this is very fine synth stuff: I find it much more 'morphing' than really 'melodic' in a traditional way (nice arpeggiated kind of 'glassy' sound from about 1:08 and some other places later). When listened first time to this I realized there's actually a harmonic 'bridge' part from 2:10 which can really make this tune even more listenable regarding to the overall structure. Background choirs are nicely placed as well as the man's voice sample.
Not something that I can listen all day for sure, as I basically would preffer something that is full of light and warm haha... but I can appreciate this production too for it's decadent atmosphere! Probably Hans Rudolf Giger will fit perfectly here https://www.pinterest.com/iandenison/hr-giger/
That's a good thing to call it. That's basically, exactly what it is.
The female lead in sounds similar because I've used it in "50 Weight and Body Paint" and also in "Twas Brillig-Slithy Tove". I've always liked it when artists would somehow connect songs, or reuse an element from past works. I guess some would call it recycled, or not creative, but I like to do it.
"Probably Hans Rudolf Giger will fit perfectly here"
Almost 25 years ago, I was an 18 year old artist when I discovered Mr. Giger's work. I went out and bought all of his books and spent countless hours studying his work. I mean, right down to the individual brush strokes. The perspectives, the compositions, the textures, everything. I dissected them fully. He was like a god to me. The worlds he created and the creatures that lived within were completely original and never before seen. He is what inspired me to drive my creativity and push for the originality that no one has ever seen, or with my music, heard.
So, when you say to me that Hans Rudolf Giger would fit perfectly into my song, it is truly one of the greatest compliments I could receive. So, for that, I sincerely thank you.
so nice to see you again. Not much to say on this one... but it's only because that I am listening on the laptop speakers now... anyway I am going to download this track to get much better listening experience and a proper pespective. For now I can only say that the beat you've used here seemed so similar to the one from 'Twas Brilling' and it's remix at first.
Anyway my true name is Aleksander - Alex is an artificial name given to me by a guy which I am woking with currently (not on musical matters at all)
Aleksander, it's good to hrar from you as well. Which do you prefer to be called, Alex, or Aleksander?
Hopefully you had a chance to listen to this on better speakers. Laptop speakers really aren't conducive to any kind of bass-y music. Also, I hope you enjoyed what you heard.
As far as beat similarity goes, it is similar. But the type of song that it is is very similar. Bass driven and heavy. This one is just a lot darker. I really like the slower, heavier driven beats.
Anyhow, thanks for listening, and taking the time to share your thoughts. I alway appreciate it.
Doncare you call it dubstep this is ValveDriver music...with it's best moments...those bass synths from 0.13 and 3.18 are killer...first class horror...o.k. we get that dubstepish drums but it could work with acoustic or electro tone too...cause those dangerous synth tones bring the high standard...incredible track from the most hazardous mind and brain in here...:-)
If John Wayne Gacy was in the Underworld movies, this would be on the soundtrack.
Wow, dubstep that is actually,..... enjoyable. Sounds more like what I would like to think of as "gettin freaky" music. Something slightly dominating about the feel of this one. Not whips and ball-gags, but burlap and elbows.
1:09 lead line seemed a bit odd at first, but you stuck with it and I really dig it after hearing the progression a few times.
Some dense "digital biscuit batter" moments. Damn, that is some really clear, well mixed badassery from 3:09 on. Awesome when cranked.
The abrupt stop, as mentioned, is all I can say. Friggin awesome.
I paid no mind to the labeled genre. I saw something from you, and hit play.
I'm glad you liked this. I know you're generally not an electronic fan, so it means even more that way.
The lead at 1:09. I was trying to go for that "chime-y" thing they always had in all the themes to the old horror flicks in the late 70's to mid 80's. I'm not sure which flick that originated in, but I know it's heavy in Halloween and Hellraiser.
I'm not exactly sure why the ending came out abrupt. But, Like Static said, it's probably an easy fix. I'll check it out when the house finally gets quiet. I already have a pretty good idea what the problem is. The abrupt ending should be, ahem.....Dead By Dawn.
"I paid no mind to the labeled genre. I saw something from you, and hit play. "
Thanks, man. That tells me I'm doing something right. I appreciate it.
i love how everything developed at the beginning into the main groove at 1:21. very patient, organic development. the solo works and effects are very cool. sometimes I strive for a bit more transparency. that is vague I know but maybe it gives you a clue for further improvements. nice work! Dan
Beginning has a foreboding feel, then the pads kick in and I feel a Floyd vibe kicking in. Some where between Meddle and Dark side this would fit. I also am channelling a bit Pete Bardens as well. The Mix spatially is fantastic my friend. 4:00 the long slow phased pitch bent solo sound is cool. The subtle piano is not to be overlooked as well.
What eighteen said about the wineglass, I think he meant when you rub your fingers around the lip of the glass you get that deep hollow square wave flute sound which is like a pad in some ways and you have a similar sound in there as well. You sir have without a shadow of a doubt upgraded your game with this one. I look forward to hearing your creative output over the next few weeks.
Cru
Pete Bardens, believe it or not, doesn't ring a bell at the moment. Which now is even more incentive to look him up.
Thanks for clearing up the wineglass thing. Once you said that, it made sense. He's probably talking about the higher chime-like sound.
"You sir have without a shadow of a doubt upgraded your game with this one."
Which is a good thing, except now I have to work harder to top it. I guess I'll put out a few "sketchbook" tracks until I find the next one that steps it up.
Thanks for stoppin' by, mister. As always, I enjoy your visits.
Everybody has said all I'm going to say about this track except, it's a
solid piece of work...Almost a chill about the track...
A Graveyard thing comes to mind,*@**## wipe that out of mind right
now...LOL
Sounds great, It sounds very pink floydish and it's been beautifully arranged. I'm hearing some great stuff on this site at the moment and this is definitely up there with the best. Really like what you've done with every part of it, that wailing synth is great with excellent wobbly effects. I hear something like this and it's so good it makes me think i should just give up lol.
Totally different from what i'm used to hearing from you and it shows you're a force to be reckoned with.
Cracking track!!!!
FR
Wow, man! That's probably one of the best comments I've received here. It's not only good because it's nice to receive such kind words, but also because it makes me set my own bar higher.
Dude, I hope you don't give up! What you do is pretty awesome. Just in a different arena. Just today I was telling my wife how you have the ability to consistently make 10 minute tracks that never get boring or monotonous, and each one is completely different from the last. That's pretty impressive, man.
"...a force to be reckoned with"
I'm not gonna lie. I like the way that sounds. lol But, it's like I said in my original profile page..."I'm not trying to get famous. I'm trying to get good" That's it, man. My only goal. It seems to be working. Very slowly, but I'm learning.
I'm glad you liked this one as much as you did, and I definitely appreciate what you had to say.
Great track ValVedriVer! I loved the atmosphere that you created with this. I also really liked the organ and the guitar. It's very trippy overall. The mix sounds solid too. Thanks for posting, it was such an enjoyable listen. This one's a Fav. Truly nice work.
hi. Yes, that organ sound and use of reverb effect remind PF for sure but I was thinking about Tangerine Dream when listening to your song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aOHeg3XitM Everything here sounds really fine and I enjoyed a kind of a cinematic ambience in the background. If I will be looking for any improvements for track like this definitely I'd recommend to work more on the composition itself: chord progression, more variations on bassline, guitar solo part melodic structure etc. than really on a sound-image. It doesn't mean that something is missing here at all of course, quite the opposite: the track does sound very realistic and you did a great jod composing and arranging all the stuff.
Really nice song, the rock genre works well. I enjoyed the music. Thanks, Alex
I can always count on a tactfully honest review from you. You will be glad to know that your suggestions for improvement are all things already on my list. I've just recently started learning these things. So, basically, this is the first stepping stone on my long trip to becoming a real musician. Ya know?
Oh Man...What have you done here...this is beaming in from far above anything I have listened to lately (and that listening seldom involves a radio)...wheather or not you intended it...Your brain has soaked up the whole Floyd vibe...the force is with you Aaron...I was going to hit the download button but its not there (I totally understand why)...This is a version of ValVedriVer I really like...and while the more usual you does a lot of great mixes...this one is stellar man....comes with big emotion...a ton of feeling....(oh love that organ bit too)...but you likely know I`m a Floyd fan..... ..awesome.....definite fav from this ol boy.....Ed
Ed, sorry for the late reply. Between work, family and flu, I haven't been much use to anyone lately.
First, thanks for the outstanding comment!
I'm kind of in the process of taking music a little more seriously. Like, actually trying to learn. I'm hoping that in the future, I'll be able to put out more like this one, but with more of the "ValveDriver" signature, and not so much the Pink Floyd resemblance.
Also, I'm sending Danke a copy of this. If you want, contact me here, I'll send one your way as well.
Thanks again for the encouraging words, Ed. It's always a pleasure when you stop by.
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
So I managed to play this one on speakers and definitely can appreciate very solid bass foundation now. Good synth sounds, particulary I like that kind of drone synth sound pretty much, can't really label it very precisely - it adds some very nice, kind of organic and insect feel. I guess there are many different synth layers in here.
Also that female lead-in element (0:13) is very similar to some of your older works...
Overall this is very fine synth stuff: I find it much more 'morphing' than really 'melodic' in a traditional way (nice arpeggiated kind of 'glassy' sound from about 1:08 and some other places later). When listened first time to this I realized there's actually a harmonic 'bridge' part from 2:10 which can really make this tune even more listenable regarding to the overall structure. Background choirs are nicely placed as well as the man's voice sample.
Not something that I can listen all day for sure, as I basically would preffer something that is full of light and warm haha... but I can appreciate this production too for it's decadent atmosphere! Probably Hans Rudolf Giger will fit perfectly here https://www.pinterest.com/iandenison/hr-giger/
Best to you, Alex (which I prefer:)
"I like that kind of drone synth sound"
That's a good thing to call it. That's basically, exactly what it is.
The female lead in sounds similar because I've used it in "50 Weight and Body Paint" and also in "Twas Brillig-Slithy Tove". I've always liked it when artists would somehow connect songs, or reuse an element from past works. I guess some would call it recycled, or not creative, but I like to do it.
"Probably Hans Rudolf Giger will fit perfectly here"
Almost 25 years ago, I was an 18 year old artist when I discovered Mr. Giger's work. I went out and bought all of his books and spent countless hours studying his work. I mean, right down to the individual brush strokes. The perspectives, the compositions, the textures, everything. I dissected them fully. He was like a god to me. The worlds he created and the creatures that lived within were completely original and never before seen. He is what inspired me to drive my creativity and push for the originality that no one has ever seen, or with my music, heard.
So, when you say to me that Hans Rudolf Giger would fit perfectly into my song, it is truly one of the greatest compliments I could receive. So, for that, I sincerely thank you.
Take care, Alex.
Aaron.
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
so I will listen later on!
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
so nice to see you again. Not much to say on this one... but it's only because that I am listening on the laptop speakers now... anyway I am going to download this track to get much better listening experience and a proper pespective. For now I can only say that the beat you've used here seemed so similar to the one from 'Twas Brilling' and it's remix at first.
Anyway my true name is Aleksander - Alex is an artificial name given to me by a guy which I am woking with currently (not on musical matters at all)
Hopefully you had a chance to listen to this on better speakers. Laptop speakers really aren't conducive to any kind of bass-y music. Also, I hope you enjoyed what you heard.
As far as beat similarity goes, it is similar. But the type of song that it is is very similar. Bass driven and heavy. This one is just a lot darker. I really like the slower, heavier driven beats.
Anyhow, thanks for listening, and taking the time to share your thoughts. I alway appreciate it.
Take care.
V.
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
I will fav it for sure.
also your voice adding at 3:18 sec is just epic :)
Nice work, my one of my fav from you its still hard to beat your "Cyclamen Laid In Stone - Say Goodbye".
see ya
I've never played Metroid, so I'm not familiar with the OST. I will have to check into it, though.
That whole vocal sample is pretty cool. I only used about a third of it. There's still plenty more. Maybe on the next track, huh?
Thanks for the kind words, and for the fav, as well!
Take care.
V.
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
Doncare you call it dubstep this is ValveDriver music...with it's best moments...those bass synths from 0.13 and 3.18 are killer...first class horror...o.k. we get that dubstepish drums but it could work with acoustic or electro tone too...cause those dangerous synth tones bring the high standard...incredible track from the most hazardous mind and brain in here...:-)
Hats off, hope all is well my friend!!!
Danke
I'm glad you liked it. I know you're more of light and upbeat kind of guy, so it means a lot when you like my hazardous work!
Things here are busy. But all around, they're good.
Thanks again, my friend!
Aaron
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
Take care.
V.
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
If John Wayne Gacy was in the Underworld movies, this would be on the soundtrack.
Wow, dubstep that is actually,..... enjoyable. Sounds more like what I would like to think of as "gettin freaky" music. Something slightly dominating about the feel of this one. Not whips and ball-gags, but burlap and elbows.
1:09 lead line seemed a bit odd at first, but you stuck with it and I really dig it after hearing the progression a few times.
Some dense "digital biscuit batter" moments. Damn, that is some really clear, well mixed badassery from 3:09 on. Awesome when cranked.
The abrupt stop, as mentioned, is all I can say. Friggin awesome.
I paid no mind to the labeled genre. I saw something from you, and hit play.
Hope all is well with you and yours.
Take 'er sleazy.
Evan
I'm glad you liked this. I know you're generally not an electronic fan, so it means even more that way.
The lead at 1:09. I was trying to go for that "chime-y" thing they always had in all the themes to the old horror flicks in the late 70's to mid 80's. I'm not sure which flick that originated in, but I know it's heavy in Halloween and Hellraiser.
I'm not exactly sure why the ending came out abrupt. But, Like Static said, it's probably an easy fix. I'll check it out when the house finally gets quiet. I already have a pretty good idea what the problem is. The abrupt ending should be, ahem.....Dead By Dawn.
"I paid no mind to the labeled genre. I saw something from you, and hit play. "
Thanks, man. That tells me I'm doing something right. I appreciate it.
If she's sleazy, take 'er twice.
Aaron.
on Labyrinth Of The Absurd by ValveDriver
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I enjoyed making it, too.
I will keep your suggestions in mind, thank you!
Take care.
V.
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
What eighteen said about the wineglass, I think he meant when you rub your fingers around the lip of the glass you get that deep hollow square wave flute sound which is like a pad in some ways and you have a similar sound in there as well. You sir have without a shadow of a doubt upgraded your game with this one. I look forward to hearing your creative output over the next few weeks.
Cru
Pete Bardens, believe it or not, doesn't ring a bell at the moment. Which now is even more incentive to look him up.
Thanks for clearing up the wineglass thing. Once you said that, it made sense. He's probably talking about the higher chime-like sound.
"You sir have without a shadow of a doubt upgraded your game with this one."
Which is a good thing, except now I have to work harder to top it. I guess I'll put out a few "sketchbook" tracks until I find the next one that steps it up.
Thanks for stoppin' by, mister. As always, I enjoy your visits.
Take care.
Aaron
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
solid piece of work...Almost a chill about the track...
A Graveyard thing comes to mind,*@**## wipe that out of mind right
now...LOL
Cool tough stuff Man...
Peace...TG.
There is a bit of a chill to it, isn't there? That's just how I like 'em.
Thanks for stopping by, and for the kind words.
Take care.
V.
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
I've got stuff posted. Some better than others. You're always welcome to listen!
Take care.
V.
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
Totally different from what i'm used to hearing from you and it shows you're a force to be reckoned with.
Cracking track!!!!
FR
Dude, I hope you don't give up! What you do is pretty awesome. Just in a different arena. Just today I was telling my wife how you have the ability to consistently make 10 minute tracks that never get boring or monotonous, and each one is completely different from the last. That's pretty impressive, man.
"...a force to be reckoned with"
I'm not gonna lie. I like the way that sounds. lol But, it's like I said in my original profile page..."I'm not trying to get famous. I'm trying to get good" That's it, man. My only goal. It seems to be working. Very slowly, but I'm learning.
I'm glad you liked this one as much as you did, and I definitely appreciate what you had to say.
Take care, mister.
Aaron.
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
I'm glad you liked this one. It's not my usual style, so it was definitely a learning experience. One of the good kinds, ya know?
Thanks for the kind words and for the Fav. Both are greatly appreciated.
Take care.
V.
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
Take care.
V.
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
Nice job.
tv
It's not often that you comment on my work, but when you do, I appreciate it.
Take care.
V,
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
really gets to me, the ambiance it gives,
totally gets me hypnotised when listening xD.
the guitar is also really great, the solo and the weird sounds so every now and then.
Overall a very relaxed track, very nice to listen to
Cheers!!
~Eighteen
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "wineglass sound", but it seems to be a good thing, so thank you!
I'm glad you liked the tune.
Take care.
V.
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
The drums sound like they were played in a parking garage. Seem to have a good bit of reverb. I do like!
2:42 tone is trippy as hell. This one seems to show more real composing. I dig this deeply. Also reminds me a bit of late Rishloo, off Feathergun.
Favorited!
Evan
I dig the fact that it resembles Floyd, but at the same time, It does feel kind of like a ripoff. That wasn't my intent, but...
I did use a quite a bit of reverb on the drums. Actually, I used quite a bit on all of it, really.
I haven't heard of Feathergun. But given your musical tastes, I'm sure they're good, and I will definitely be looking into them.
Thanks for the kindness, brother.
Take care.
Aaron.
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aOHeg3XitM Everything here sounds really fine and I enjoyed a kind of a cinematic ambience in the background. If I will be looking for any improvements for track like this definitely I'd recommend to work more on the composition itself: chord progression, more variations on bassline, guitar solo part melodic structure etc. than really on a sound-image. It doesn't mean that something is missing here at all of course, quite the opposite: the track does sound very realistic and you did a great jod composing and arranging all the stuff.
Really nice song, the rock genre works well. I enjoyed the music. Thanks, Alex
I can always count on a tactfully honest review from you. You will be glad to know that your suggestions for improvement are all things already on my list. I've just recently started learning these things. So, basically, this is the first stepping stone on my long trip to becoming a real musician. Ya know?
Thanks for taking the time, mister.
Take care.
V.
on Red On The White by ValveDriver
First, thanks for the outstanding comment!
I'm kind of in the process of taking music a little more seriously. Like, actually trying to learn. I'm hoping that in the future, I'll be able to put out more like this one, but with more of the "ValveDriver" signature, and not so much the Pink Floyd resemblance.
Also, I'm sending Danke a copy of this. If you want, contact me here, I'll send one your way as well.
Thanks again for the encouraging words, Ed. It's always a pleasure when you stop by.
Take care.
Aaron.