joecramer

Thankyou D3RELICT
Nice to know that you liked my work.

Ok, this is the way i done the vocal thing.
(I am not sure if i realy have any technique at all)
I work wit Magix Music Maker. Everything that isn´t a vst is "inbuild" stuff.

1 i made a easy "counting-out rhyme" that i wanted to use as refrain.
-- i piched it 7 tones up
-- i used a guitar stereo reverb on it
-- i used a chorus - quad low cut - slow speed - no bass at all
-- i used the Nubi3 vst Spinner and set it on - Panner

2 i recorded the vocals
-- i used the EQ to make a "Phone" sound
-- i used voice reverb - Main Hall

3 i duplicated parts of the vocals and placed them between the org vocals

4 i dublicated the refrain and place it a few times in another row

5 i used some vocal parts in another row on the "empty" places in the timeline
(so i had 3 rows - 1 vocals and refrain - 1 refrain on parts - and this 1 - together the timeline had at all places sounds. on some places 3 on others 2 and on others 1 sound)

6 i used the Spinner vst on that row where only vocals where on - i set it to Deep Chorus

7 i used EQ on the row with only refrain for "Phone" sound

8 i used the "Dasample" GlaceVerb vst and set it on 59FX Spectral Wind - on all 3 rows

9 i used the mixer for volume of the 3 rows and then

10 i mixed the 3 rows with all the FX into one stem - READY :)

Hope this helps you in a way

Nubi3 Spinner and Dasample GlaceVerb are free

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joe

sure :)

I used Mr Funktastic´s dark-strings-176 that can be found in the Halloween threat from Phatkatz and fx like hell on some spoken words.

If you wanna some of the stems i made, just say it

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joe

A few days ago i saw this documentation from Sir Trevor McDonald at indiana deat row, on TV .... There i saw Frederick Baer the first time in my life. And i got so much respect for Sir Trevor you can only understand if you watch that. Hell, i couldn´t stand that! I have a little girl and i couldn´t stop thinking on how afull and extreme evil it must be to die this way ...... later i read phatkatz threat and start some little work with this dark strings from Funktastic. The result let my mind remember this story but i had forgoten the words and the names and so. So i googled it and found the side where "this words and only this interview" was on - like a sighn :) -
So i start working with them. translate them and sing/talk them and so on. But it wasn´t that evil and dark it had to be. Sounded like i found Frederick baer a "cool" guy but that wasn´t what i wanted to do. So started to "hide" the words and "take" the evil feeling in them ...... in a way

and right now, if you know the story and the words and listen to this music, it fits. It is so evil and dark like it should be

Thanks for the nice comment

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joe

Hey Orlando

You nailed it "uniquely spooky and disturbing" and made in a way that could scare Phatkatz. (it all starts here http://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/183960/halloween-track-challenge )
That was what i tryed to make.

Good to know that you think i done that

Thanks for the gentle comment and so on

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joe

Every try to work on this one ends, right now, to something compleete different...... looks like this one wants to stay like it is :) but i will try it again for sure.
If someone wants to work with it, just ask for the stems.

In a way it sounds realy like the voices that haunting him by night, every night again and again.
Or like a kind of a church anywhere deep inside his mind where is no god and noone else inside. All holy and all human leav and left only shadows of sounds .....
But they could be also the voices that he heared while he did what he did.

I just tryed to make something scary for you and it ended with something that scares me too

But if you take it out of this Frederick Baer context, then it is (just) a nice deep dark soundscape that would fit in much 3D games and so on

Thanks for your kind words and all the dark insperation

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joe

Hello Alex

Sure, lets colab onece again.
Nice to hear that you believe this version has potential.
It just started as a kind of a fun production. Just trying to make it "different" and so i "played a lot with the stems around. Mostly make them faster and or lower and didn´t care to much the quality at all :) .......
I can send you for this project almost all stems you want/need, cause i have tryed to save all i done in dry and wet waves (this dosen´t happend often)
Maybe you didn´see it and or didn´t like it but i wrote some lyrics to this one. Right now i record some more clear vocals......

Just say what you want :)

And also this Agent 23 project, i realy love this track, so i would love to hear what you will do. Same thig, if you need any, just tell me

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joe

Oh, thanks for this great comment.
Steampunk is such a cool thing but i wasn´t up to make some.
But if this little track reminds you to that, then all is cool.

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joe

Hey Wayne

Thanks for your nice comment. You are right if you think on 80´s electronic and wave music. Thats something where i came from (including punk and NDW).
But this NIN thing is realy an accident. To be honest, I did not realy have/had much with NIN on hat :)
I just tryed to sing in a style that fits to the music.

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joe

What a gentle comment Ed :)

In a way the most things i make sounds a bit dark.
This one is realy very repetive and so it is in fact close to this Da DA DA one from Trio. Cool to know that i got a better beat :)
I never tryed to do something "normal" or maybe i tryed but never end with something close to normal. So you can be sure i will keep on doing music in that way.

Thanks for the friendly words. Realy nice to hear things like that from a real musican like you.

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Thanks for youre friendly comment Vic.
Good to know that you didn´t waist youre time and could enjoy the listen
Always nice to read that someone likes my voice :)
Cool to hear that you found it a " wacked out song", cause i mostly try to make something in that way.

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joe

Hello Epic

This is almost a good old 80´s song :)
A part of the beat is a clasic EBM one (in a way)
And the vocals are a minimal version of a 80´s track made by a friend and me :)

Nice to know that my voice can hold you by your ears

I realy enjoy your comment

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joe

Orlando :)

Sounds like i done it in a way right
I realy enjoyed your comment. Thanks a lot for youre words and a special thanks for your -welcome back-

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joe

Hi Jamid

Nice to read something from you and good to know that you like what i did.
Thanks for youre gentle words about this little one
and a thanks for the fav

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joe

Hey Mudhoen

What a nice comment.
Cool to know that you enjoy the listen to "my" music.

So thanks again and i hope i will produce some more special and unique sounds soon

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joe

Hello Shatner

Thanks for your friendly words about the music, the vox and the mix. Nice to hear that you think it is a fav. The mix could sound a bit better, cause it sounds already better on my computer then this downmix in mp3 here.
I am glad that you enjoy your ride.

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joe

Nice to read that you think it´s cool. And yes, you are right this is a little bit dark, but in a way everything i made is a little dark ..... mmmmmm ......
There are a few "bad" things in the mix but nothing that cant be changed, it´s still in progress and some of the problems are just a result of makeing a downmix from all steems and all efects in one go :) tomuch for my old computer.

Thanks for your nice words Cru

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joe

I realy tryed to do something diffrent then normal. And i believe i done it well :) - easy, free, happy, wide, posetiv .... and i love this drums. I think it gives this folk dynanic a real new, modern and fresh note. But for all the others is this bonus song :) old school bonfire music

Thanks Alex for your nice comment

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joe

Thanks for your kind words Dan.
Yeah i heard what you did and i like it :) (i bet you already seen the comment)

Nice to know that you could enjoy this little song.

All the best

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joe

thanks for the kind words Spivkurl

I am delighted that you have written on these two songs a comment here. Cause you're the real reason why I did these two versions

as you have probably noticed, these are about the same text as the one I've used for cooperation with Phatkatz.
http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/167958
you wrote a commentary on it and I answered that it is actually the text of a positive song and that I will maybe even make a different version
and as I had found the guitar, everything was clear.
that fits

as seen, there are now three versions and I think all good
and this is very rarely the case. mostly disappear from the scene two. there remains only one. Here it's different.

First, I had posted the track under drum and bass but that's also funny. but the bonus song was clearly folk.
therefore it's okay

I had two voices for the second version
and that sounded almost like Simon and Garfunkel LOL

thanks for the time that you take and thanks for the fav

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joe

I give my best to do some special things, ´cause normal can be done from the others :)
And one of my goals for this year was/is to do some genres that i hadn´t done befor. But sure i try to do them in my own way.
I am always happy if someone think i done it right

So thanks for your nice and friendly comment Orlando and the time you spent on listen to my stuff.

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joe

Hey TG

Nice to know that you think it is a good one
I am with you when you say that this one sounds "live".
Thats one of the reasons why i loved to do some to it.
Phatkatz did realy a good job with this blues jam!

BTW - have a look in/to the lyrics :) there is/was a translation of the words ....... and in this case (this zombie fun thing) the words are made to let you smile a bit.

Thanks for the friendly comment

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joe

I will see what i can do but this guy is extreme creative ...
And right now i dont know where he is. But i think in canada you are save. It´s for sure to cold for this guy over there.

If i hear any about some canada vacation, i will inform you quickly :)

Thanks for your nice commend Ed

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joe

Hey Tomzovic

Nothing is wrong with the vocals :)
It is a kind of a "running Joke".

Phatkatz opend last year a - lets make some things around zombies - thread. http://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/182429/looperman-zombie-apocalypse
In that case i created this -the thinking zombie- one.
He´s just a (the first) real thinking zombie and loves to make songs about humans ....... and this one is just a little track with the voice of him on Phatkatz blues jam, where he told us how easy it was to get some nice and fresh jamaican food :)

Later i will do some "normal" vocals this blues jam for sure. `Cause i dont want that this zombie thing have a to bad influence on his cool music.

Thanks for your friendly comment

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joe

Thanks for your friendly words FrozenStick

Nice to know that you had fun while listening
that is the reason for what this track is
Fun.

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joe

So it looks like we have to wait what the future will bring us (for sad things) in a couple of years ......

Maybe we sould try to eat some zombies :)

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joe