Yesss...could sounds like this...I mean that moment of life...natural way the 'leave' but we can't explain it although we know the importance of that, too...
Sure i know that the moment has to come and also sure i know that it is not the end of anything. But ..... it is just a feeling that comes, when i think (like while i worked on this track) about this moment right now (years befor it will happend) .....
Thanks for your nice words and the fav
... i wonder when i can hear the first track with Marcel and you together :) making some good old house music
This sounds incredibly threatening and kinda scary....is one foot still in Halloween?...haha...As a piece of music
with an apparent cinematic touch it's absolutely great and convincing, yet on the other hand I just can't associate it with a sentiment of a child leaving home when time comes, which is a normal way of life, so I think this sentiment could have been expressed in a bit less dramatic way or/and by adding some more mellow elements.
But this sounds almost apocaliptic....and as I said it's great music by itself, it's just that I can't cope it in terms of your description, but ofcourse this is very subjective teritory so I will just shut up now..!:)^^
I know that it is just a normal thing. sure it is.
And this apocalyptic thing :) i would call it real dramatic but thats all without any meaning at all.
Right now this track is just a track. I just wrote wherefor i wrote it but i didn't used it therfor cause this moment is far away :) ..... So it is realy ok to take the music just as music and take a listen and get own feelings .....
And it is always "uneasy" trieing to explane feelings that comes from thinking on the future
I am sure that, when the moment comes, i stand there with a friendly smile and will do all i can do to make this moment a real nice and special moment without any harm or drama at all for her .....
Nice to hear that you think the music itself is enjoyable
Blimey Joe,this sounds a bit scary.Whats going to happen on the day mate,murder or worse!Very haunting i am feeling the pain and loss you are contemplating i have had similar,its never the same,but nothing can always remain the same.Love to ya.
Very well written song, and the performance is sincere and special! It has your style throughout, and that always means a large amount of personality. I have known quite a few people who have to live with this issue you speak of. It is good for you to learn and know yourself, as well as trying to help others understand. As far as the medical side of things, I am always so sceptical about the industry's explanations, diagnoses and treatments. This is probably partly due to living most of my life in the home of the Mayo clinic. I tend to look first at the underlying causes which may not be apparent. This seems discouraged in medicine, as well as in the forever hugging love affair between the government and the corporations. Only bringing up the thoughts which your song raised in me, and I will stop there, as I tend to offend people... you are definitely not some one who I wish to offend! I enjoyed the song thoroughly, and I love your honesty! Fave!
Thanks for the gentle words Spivkurl
Nice to read that you definitely don't wanna offend me.
To be honest, I'd been attacked for this text.
Honesty is not seen by all happy
and often I am also sorry to justify my honesty
But that does not mean I'm going to change it
when I try to explain that an unselfish act does not exist, then most people feel attacked. only because they calculate with feelings and do not perceive that a posetives feeling has a posetive value .........
And i think that you are right when you believe that it isn't a good idea to trust big corporations and or government. I would say, if you can count 1 and 1 together, then you can't believe that they don't cheat you :)
this is very fine tune from you! I really like a lot the speed of it and the energy. I'd love to make my version of this tune if that's possible - it has a great potential. Are you available for collaboration on this one? I have just read comments below and I think I can try help you to get more clear mix and overall sound of this version. I still have in mind working on the 'Agent23' project that you have sent me earlier - maybe I could try those 2 ideas at some point in the very near future.
Sure, lets colab onece again.
Nice to hear that you believe this version has potential.
It just started as a kind of a fun production. Just trying to make it "different" and so i "played a lot with the stems around. Mostly make them faster and or lower and didn´t care to much the quality at all :) .......
I can send you for this project almost all stems you want/need, cause i have tryed to save all i done in dry and wet waves (this dosen´t happend often)
Maybe you didn´see it and or didn´t like it but i wrote some lyrics to this one. Right now i record some more clear vocals......
Just say what you want :)
And also this Agent 23 project, i realy love this track, so i would love to hear what you will do. Same thig, if you need any, just tell me
Oh, thanks for this great comment.
Steampunk is such a cool thing but i wasn´t up to make some.
But if this little track reminds you to that, then all is cool.
This was different for me, I am not very familiar with electro music but I found this quite interesting. I liked the background vocals. This reminds me of electronic new wave/club music from the mid 80's. I hear a bit of a NIN influence in there, maybe the vocals are making me think that.
Good to hear things are going well and that music is being created again. Well done!
Thanks for your nice comment. You are right if you think on 80´s electronic and wave music. Thats something where i came from (including punk and NDW).
But this NIN thing is realy an accident. To be honest, I did not realy have/had much with NIN on hat :)
I just tryed to sing in a style that fits to the music.
You are a creative guy Joe...always something a bit different and always interesting to hear what you come up with...nice groove to this one as it moves right along...your voice goes well with the music (reminds me just a little of Da Da Da by Trio)but you have a better beat happening...it is a little dark but I think that comes mainly from the choice of sounds and some of the effects, plus the perpetual groove of the drums...well done to you...keep on....Ed
In a way the most things i make sounds a bit dark.
This one is realy very repetive and so it is in fact close to this Da DA DA one from Trio. Cool to know that i got a better beat :)
I never tryed to do something "normal" or maybe i tryed but never end with something close to normal. So you can be sure i will keep on doing music in that way.
Thanks for the friendly words. Realy nice to hear things like that from a real musican like you.
For some reason I wanted to listen to some music to see what was goin' 'round. So I started with the tracks tab to find out how to look up songs in a specific genre and I came to this one at the top of song list that it brings up when you haven't specified anything. Imagine my surprise to see your name when I just came from the funny song thread. So I gave it a listen and it was really good, I like your voice and I liked the overall impression of a wacked out song. Vic
Thanks for youre friendly comment Vic.
Good to know that you didn´t waist youre time and could enjoy the listen
Always nice to read that someone likes my voice :)
Cool to hear that you found it a " wacked out song", cause i mostly try to make something in that way.
Your voice is strangely captivating to my ears haha. I like the effects you applied to the vocal. The music is driving but not aggressive, which I appreciate. Reminds me of a good ol' 80s song haha. Kudos on this one!
This is almost a good old 80´s song :)
A part of the beat is a clasic EBM one (in a way)
And the vocals are a minimal version of a 80´s track made by a friend and me :)
Nice to know that my voice can hold you by your ears
Welcome back Joe....nice to hear things are going well now!
I think this fact reflects very well in your new track which is once again a great example of uniqueness and
inventive creativity...indeed very very cool!:)
Hello Joe,
Very cool track Joe!
This is put together really well. Impressive. It definitely has a Karaftwork feel to it. This one's a Fav.
Nice work.
Well done
Jamid
Nice to read something from you and good to know that you like what i did.
Thanks for youre gentle words about this little one
and a thanks for the fav
Nice to hear things go uphill again, Joe. I am happy to hear your unique and special sound again. It always keeps me interested bar for bar. Has a deep flow in it. the vocals are almost hypnotizing. Great track!
Awesome track joecramer! It has a great groove to it. I liked the vox's too. It took me on a very enjoyable ride. It gets you moving. The mix sounds good too. This one's a Fav. Nice work.
Thanks for your friendly words about the music, the vox and the mix. Nice to hear that you think it is a fav. The mix could sound a bit better, cause it sounds already better on my computer then this downmix in mp3 here.
I am glad that you enjoy your ride.
I love the snap on the snare. good mix. Reminds me of the old mantra used "Rap music all night long" that was spoken in some dance tunes in the early nineties. Though this comes across as a much creepier version. Very Dark tune and I agree with you it's cool.
Cru
Nice to read that you think it´s cool. And yes, you are right this is a little bit dark, but in a way everything i made is a little dark ..... mmmmmm ......
There are a few "bad" things in the mix but nothing that cant be changed, it´s still in progress and some of the problems are just a result of makeing a downmix from all steems and all efects in one go :) tomuch for my old computer.
hello Joe:) this is really a beautiful one. it reminded me of some songs from an old LP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GC_OEOH6Xk and I think this is really a folk genre.
I think the arrangement is too, let us say modern, especially the drums are too busy. At least to me. I liked the bonus one better and the simplicity of it.
Best to you, Alex
I realy tryed to do something diffrent then normal. And i believe i done it well :) - easy, free, happy, wide, posetiv .... and i love this drums. I think it gives this folk dynanic a real new, modern and fresh note. But for all the others is this bonus song :) old school bonfire music
Very comforting song in it's idealism... I think you've expressed yourself very effectively here. Your vocals sound very vintage in a good way. I don't care about genres too much, but if this is folk, it is probably a new kind of folk. The second version is an interesting change for sure. I think it's a lot more folk (and possible better) without the pads and drums... but that is just me. I like all of this offering, faved!
I am delighted that you have written on these two songs a comment here. Cause you're the real reason why I did these two versions
as you have probably noticed, these are about the same text as the one I've used for cooperation with Phatkatz. http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/167958
you wrote a commentary on it and I answered that it is actually the text of a positive song and that I will maybe even make a different version
and as I had found the guitar, everything was clear.
that fits
as seen, there are now three versions and I think all good
and this is very rarely the case. mostly disappear from the scene two. there remains only one. Here it's different.
First, I had posted the track under drum and bass but that's also funny. but the bonus song was clearly folk.
therefore it's okay
I had two voices for the second version
and that sounded almost like Simon and Garfunkel LOL
thanks for the time that you take and thanks for the fav
Pleasant tune you made there my friend. I like the softness of it. our voice treatments are very seventies sounding (folk groups) which is perfect. I like the synth melody after the verses. Nice structuring. I would pull it out of Drum and bass and put it in folk music. yes the drums are a little D&B like but the overall feel of the song belongs in folk.
Good job
Steve
I had the same in my mind - folk - thats why i wrote "Drum and Chill Folk" but i believed that the first comment would be a - this isn´t folk, it has a d&b drumset - :)
"our voice treatments are very seventies sounding"
this is realy cool, ´cause you know that i am normaly more a 80´s child.
Nice to know that you like the song and this little synth melody.
Sweet, sweet composition...you're the man of musicality with soulfulness! I think you produce songs which firstly touch yourself and then the others...your feeling is incredible and there is an unexplicable magic so forcefully displayed in this song! One thing I don't want to forget to mention is that the vocal-like synth which comes in at 0:59 reminds me on
Aphrodite's Child song "Rain And Tears" but i believe that the similarity in tone is coincidental (already happend to me when I was making "Pax Europea" and then extended it into a tribute which was by no means in the original plan for the song)and I really love it!:) One thing you won't believe...I think I even prefer the bonus part...such calmness and purity of the message! Another great work from you my friend!:)
What a nice and gentle comment my friend. Makes me a bit getting red :) but sure also realy happy
I listen to the "Rain and Tears" song on youtube.
Found there a real cool old version. If not have already you must watch it.
Aphrodite's Child Rain And Tears Video & Audio Restored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQyxCL1uMlU
But i dont think that there is something similar in the synth line and there song. But the song is realy great :)
I can real understand that you prefer this pure bonus version. In a way is it the version i would love to hear, when i walk down maybe a beach and some people i dont know sit there and one of them play on a guitar and another starts singing ....... that would be cool, ´cause that means that this song had sucsess :) ... no :) just a joke - that would be cool cause it is the spirit of this song in a way.
on You have to fly away by joecramer
TheKunig
Nice to hear that.
to be honest, this track frightens me to and also in a good way :)
Realy enjoyed your comment
stay tuned
joe
on You have to fly away by joecramer
Hats off and hope she found her life...
Handshake, Danke
Sure i know that the moment has to come and also sure i know that it is not the end of anything. But ..... it is just a feeling that comes, when i think (like while i worked on this track) about this moment right now (years befor it will happend) .....
Thanks for your nice words and the fav
... i wonder when i can hear the first track with Marcel and you together :) making some good old house music
stay tuned
joe
on You have to fly away by joecramer
This sounds incredibly threatening and kinda scary....is one foot still in Halloween?...haha...As a piece of music
with an apparent cinematic touch it's absolutely great and convincing, yet on the other hand I just can't associate it with a sentiment of a child leaving home when time comes, which is a normal way of life, so I think this sentiment could have been expressed in a bit less dramatic way or/and by adding some more mellow elements.
But this sounds almost apocaliptic....and as I said it's great music by itself, it's just that I can't cope it in terms of your description, but ofcourse this is very subjective teritory so I will just shut up now..!:)^^
All the best______Orlando
I know that it is just a normal thing. sure it is.
And this apocalyptic thing :) i would call it real dramatic but thats all without any meaning at all.
Right now this track is just a track. I just wrote wherefor i wrote it but i didn't used it therfor cause this moment is far away :) ..... So it is realy ok to take the music just as music and take a listen and get own feelings .....
And it is always "uneasy" trieing to explane feelings that comes from thinking on the future
I am sure that, when the moment comes, i stand there with a friendly smile and will do all i can do to make this moment a real nice and special moment without any harm or drama at all for her .....
Nice to hear that you think the music itself is enjoyable
stay tuned
joe
on You have to fly away by joecramer
all the best
Cru
"Hauntingly Teutonic in a terrifyingly beautiful way" That sounds realy cool :) maybe i will use that later.
.... Bowie mmmmmm are you sure?
Thanks for listen and the time to write something
stay tuned
joe
on You have to fly away by joecramer
sounds like a cinematic piece .
I enjoyed this .
I know that it will be a great moment and i know that this moment must come but ........
Nice to know that you enjoyed the listen
stay tuned
joe
on You have to fly away by joecramer
If someone told me that a few years ago, i wouldn't believe him/her that I would think on things like that in so a strange way ...... Dads :)
Thanks for the shared love
I realy enjoyed your comment
stay tuned
joe
on Asperger Love by joecramer
Nice to read that you definitely don't wanna offend me.
To be honest, I'd been attacked for this text.
Honesty is not seen by all happy
and often I am also sorry to justify my honesty
But that does not mean I'm going to change it
when I try to explain that an unselfish act does not exist, then most people feel attacked. only because they calculate with feelings and do not perceive that a posetives feeling has a posetive value .........
And i think that you are right when you believe that it isn't a good idea to trust big corporations and or government. I would say, if you can count 1 and 1 together, then you can't believe that they don't cheat you :)
I always love to read something from your hand.
stay tuned
joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
this is very fine tune from you! I really like a lot the speed of it and the energy. I'd love to make my version of this tune if that's possible - it has a great potential. Are you available for collaboration on this one? I have just read comments below and I think I can try help you to get more clear mix and overall sound of this version. I still have in mind working on the 'Agent23' project that you have sent me earlier - maybe I could try those 2 ideas at some point in the very near future.
best greetings, Alex
Sure, lets colab onece again.
Nice to hear that you believe this version has potential.
It just started as a kind of a fun production. Just trying to make it "different" and so i "played a lot with the stems around. Mostly make them faster and or lower and didn´t care to much the quality at all :) .......
I can send you for this project almost all stems you want/need, cause i have tryed to save all i done in dry and wet waves (this dosen´t happend often)
Maybe you didn´see it and or didn´t like it but i wrote some lyrics to this one. Right now i record some more clear vocals......
Just say what you want :)
And also this Agent 23 project, i realy love this track, so i would love to hear what you will do. Same thig, if you need any, just tell me
stay tuned
joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
Steampunk is such a cool thing but i wasn´t up to make some.
But if this little track reminds you to that, then all is cool.
stay tuned
joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
Good to hear things are going well and that music is being created again. Well done!
Wayne
Thanks for your nice comment. You are right if you think on 80´s electronic and wave music. Thats something where i came from (including punk and NDW).
But this NIN thing is realy an accident. To be honest, I did not realy have/had much with NIN on hat :)
I just tryed to sing in a style that fits to the music.
stay tuned
joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
In a way the most things i make sounds a bit dark.
This one is realy very repetive and so it is in fact close to this Da DA DA one from Trio. Cool to know that i got a better beat :)
I never tryed to do something "normal" or maybe i tryed but never end with something close to normal. So you can be sure i will keep on doing music in that way.
Thanks for the friendly words. Realy nice to hear things like that from a real musican like you.
stay tuned joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
Good to know that you didn´t waist youre time and could enjoy the listen
Always nice to read that someone likes my voice :)
Cool to hear that you found it a " wacked out song", cause i mostly try to make something in that way.
stay tuned
joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
ER
This is almost a good old 80´s song :)
A part of the beat is a clasic EBM one (in a way)
And the vocals are a minimal version of a 80´s track made by a friend and me :)
Nice to know that my voice can hold you by your ears
I realy enjoy your comment
stay tuned
joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
I think this fact reflects very well in your new track which is once again a great example of uniqueness and
inventive creativity...indeed very very cool!:)
Compliments_____Orlando
Sounds like i done it in a way right
I realy enjoyed your comment. Thanks a lot for youre words and a special thanks for your -welcome back-
stay tuned
joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
Very cool track Joe!
This is put together really well. Impressive. It definitely has a Karaftwork feel to it. This one's a Fav.
Nice work.
Well done
Jamid
Nice to read something from you and good to know that you like what i did.
Thanks for youre gentle words about this little one
and a thanks for the fav
stay tuned
joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
What a nice comment.
Cool to know that you enjoy the listen to "my" music.
So thanks again and i hope i will produce some more special and unique sounds soon
stay tuned
joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
Thanks for your friendly words about the music, the vox and the mix. Nice to hear that you think it is a fav. The mix could sound a bit better, cause it sounds already better on my computer then this downmix in mp3 here.
I am glad that you enjoy your ride.
stay tuned
joe
on undergroundsound dance by joecramer
Cru
There are a few "bad" things in the mix but nothing that cant be changed, it´s still in progress and some of the problems are just a result of makeing a downmix from all steems and all efects in one go :) tomuch for my old computer.
Thanks for your nice words Cru
stay tuned
joe
on Hey Komm doch mit by joecramer
I think the arrangement is too, let us say modern, especially the drums are too busy. At least to me. I liked the bonus one better and the simplicity of it.
Best to you, Alex
Thanks Alex for your nice comment
Stay tuned
joe
on Hey Komm doch mit by joecramer
Yeah i heard what you did and i like it :) (i ##### you already seen the comment)
Nice to know that you could enjoy this little song.
All the best
stay tuned
joe
on Hey Komm doch mit by joecramer
I am delighted that you have written on these two songs a comment here. Cause you're the real reason why I did these two versions
as you have probably noticed, these are about the same text as the one I've used for cooperation with Phatkatz.
http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/167958
you wrote a commentary on it and I answered that it is actually the text of a positive song and that I will maybe even make a different version
and as I had found the guitar, everything was clear.
that fits
as seen, there are now three versions and I think all good
and this is very rarely the case. mostly disappear from the scene two. there remains only one. Here it's different.
First, I had posted the track under drum and bass but that's also funny. but the bonus song was clearly folk.
therefore it's okay
I had two voices for the second version
and that sounded almost like Simon and Garfunkel LOL
thanks for the time that you take and thanks for the fav
stay tuned
joe
on Hey Komm doch mit by joecramer
Good job
Steve
Thanks for your listen and your comment.
I had the same in my mind - folk - thats why i wrote "Drum and Chill Folk" but i believed that the first comment would be a - this isn´t folk, it has a d&b drumset - :)
"our voice treatments are very seventies sounding"
this is realy cool, ´cause you know that i am normaly more a 80´s child.
Nice to know that you like the song and this little synth melody.
stay tuned
joe
on Hey Komm doch mit by joecramer
Aphrodite's Child song "Rain And Tears" but i believe that the similarity in tone is coincidental (already happend to me when I was making "Pax Europea" and then extended it into a tribute which was by no means in the original plan for the song)and I really love it!:) One thing you won't believe...I think I even prefer the bonus part...such calmness and purity of the message! Another great work from you my friend!:)
Compliments and respect___Orlando
What a nice and gentle comment my friend. Makes me a bit getting red :) but sure also realy happy
I listen to the "Rain and Tears" song on youtube.
Found there a real cool old version. If not have already you must watch it.
Aphrodite's Child Rain And Tears Video & Audio Restored
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQyxCL1uMlU
But i dont think that there is something similar in the synth line and there song. But the song is realy great :)
I can real understand that you prefer this pure bonus version. In a way is it the version i would love to hear, when i walk down maybe a beach and some people i dont know sit there and one of them play on a guitar and another starts singing ....... that would be cool, ´cause that means that this song had sucsess :) ... no :) just a joke - that would be cool cause it is the spirit of this song in a way.
I realy enjoyed your words.
stay tuned
joe
on Hey Komm doch mit by joecramer
I like what you did with the vocals
Nice to know that you think that the sound is good
Always cool to hear that someone likes my vocal "work"
Thanks for your words
stay tuned
joe
on Hey Komm doch mit by joecramer
This track brilliant, creatively laid out.
Your voice is great, who did the pad?
It is heavenly.
It’s great job……..favs it goes.
Jamid
The -pad- is a mixdown from 2 synths i played.
Realy nice to know that you enjoyed the listen
stay tune
joe