Description : My new "Vocal Trance" track with female vocals. Let me know your thoughts in the comments. This one was 6 weeks in the making. EDIT: Updated the EQ on the Kick track. Should now pump louder.
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As said before, the track is very nice, good to listen. Little more subbass and punch to the kick aside with al little more of sidechaining would fit the needs - imho
Hello, I understand what the previous posters mean. In a song of this genre, which is clearly more dance than trance, the driving bass and drums are actually missing. Although they are present in the song, they don't really come into their own. That's why the overall acoustic picture appears too bright and unbalanced in frequency. If you can achieve that balance (I hope I'm making myself clear?) then it would be the perfect song. The song is already very good, but there is more that can be done. Put in some more work – it will be worth it!
Kind regards, Manuela
Hi Manuela, many thanks for your insightful observations with this track. You are certainly making sense. I have a pretty good idea on how to fix the mix here and I will be revisiting it soon.
I noticed the adjustments you've made to the track. It's definitely evolving in the right direction. Perhaps a more punchiness or depth in the kick could really enhance the overall impact of the track without overshadowing the other elements. Just a friendly suggestion to consider. Keep up the great work!
Hi, Dean! So, I know I've said this previously in comments on other tracks here on LM, Trance is my favourite EDM genre. It was a treat to hear this track from you. Totally enjoyed it. I suck at making Trance. You clearly have figured out how to do it right.
I have read about the EQ issue on the kick. Frankly, I'd like to hear it come through even more, but at some point balancing the sounds in a mix comes down to a matter of taste, which is inherently subjective I think. The suggestion that perhaps you should find another kick sample was interesting. At Point Blank, our instructor told us that if we had to do a lot of EQing on a kick, we had the wrong sound to begin with. (Advice that I rarely follow, but probably has merit.) Synth work was excellent and I really admired how you got the bass pumping. I still can't do that properly.
Again, is a great track and well worth the 6 weeks effort.
Hi Eric, many thanks for your comments. they are very constructive indeed. I switched the kick to use Ableton's built in EQ kick setting after the comments about the kick on here. As for the track structure, I have figured that the Trance genre works better if there is at least 2 builds and drops sections within it, followed by an outro which should basically consist of a variation of the intro. Previously I was focusing on just 1 build and drop in the track, which I found listening back was missing a lot. Thanks again.
this sounds a little different now mate them drums and the kick cut through lovely, some may still want the drums louder but i think its balanced really well now the music gives you them peaks and the littlest things that you miss like the EQ on the kick tack can define it for you, ive made loads of similar mistakes but when you been listening and tweaking for time it becomes more difficult because you dont here it like your listeners, its so obvious when you spot things afterwards us producers are a self rightesous lot though but aint it great to get good feedback all pushing the same thing too, it makes it feel worthwhile and remember we are not always right but one thing is for sure, i want as much success for your work as i do my own, our biggest fans are here and i think most genuinely feel the same about each others work, on ward and upward bro, your a good listen dean
My bad. I've literally updated the track this morning to include a hopefully improved kick. I've upped the gain also to ensure this drives through more.
great track, smooth mix reminds me aurora festival lol... i love the synths and arp but bro i like the kick hitting hard hahaha but i guess thats personal tastes...
keep up mate
peace
Well, this takes me back to youth, going to those giant, epic shows and parties were once In a lifetime. They dont happen anymore, not around here. Anyway I dont wanna echo wat everyone else has said, so I will just say the in the end, its the person who is creating the musics' preference on how the mix sounds. Drums could be louder, and the track would be a tiny bit better, again, in my opinion. Or if the drum stay the same it'll still be a great track. Like some others, Ive been around here a while, and I genuinely offer my opinions because I genuinely want to help other producers/musicians every last bit of potential out of their songs as they can. This is some good work, man. -Aaron
really nice work dean, i like the mix and the production, i think the drums are finely balanced tbf, i would like them louder only but thats just personal choice lovely melody and the vox sit pretty in the mix my studio headset has got good sound the bass has got depth the highs are clear and the mids are warm, like i said early i would crank the drums up starting @1.40 make a big entrance and can be automated down i would show them more but i had 3 good listens the synth work is top notch bro, you are become the listen to for trance here in featured mate
I've just gone back to the track and saw that the EQ was switched off for the kick track. Absolutely gob smacked on how I missed that. Anyway, onwards. I'm not going to make any amends to this track, unless its for professional reasons. I'm already deep into a new one, so will run with that. 6 weeks listening to the same thing messes with the head.
Thanks for your comments Paul, they are always really constructive and positive and are appreciated.
I owe @levas567 an apology for the rant I gave him (or her) last night. Frustration got the better of me. Have a good weekend all.
Look, I not a pro ,I am not even a musician, it just a hobi of my life, so I have listened your track couple times on my headphones like always enough loud and find out for myself is something wrong with a kick. Please dont be sad , maybe I wrong. Peace ))
No worries. Thanks for responding again. I haven't heard any of your music on this platform until tonight, so welcome to the community. I've had a brief listen to one of your tracks, I'll try and listen more to them tomorrow. Peace back to you also.
Thanks for your comments. The kick sounds okay from my testing of various sound sources during mastering. You're the first person that has said anything about the kick and this track was released on 14th April with over a 1200 views. I wouldn't spend 6 weeks on a track and not get the kick right. If anyone else on here 2nds this comment, I'll go back and have another look at it but I don't see anything wrong with the kick. Instead of mentioning the one negative, try to come back with positives, other than "I like your song but ..."
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I have read about the EQ issue on the kick. Frankly, I'd like to hear it come through even more, but at some point balancing the sounds in a mix comes down to a matter of taste, which is inherently subjective I think. The suggestion that perhaps you should find another kick sample was interesting. At Point Blank, our instructor told us that if we had to do a lot of EQing on a kick, we had the wrong sound to begin with. (Advice that I rarely follow, but probably has merit.) Synth work was excellent and I really admired how you got the bass pumping. I still can't do that properly.
Again, is a great track and well worth the 6 weeks effort.
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
LovePeace&Light,
Mykaèl
keep up mate
peace
Michael
Thanks for your comments Paul, they are always really constructive and positive and are appreciated.
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