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12th Apr 2021 03:44 - 4 years ago
Description : This track is a cover of a cover. “The Six”, a Manchester collective produced a EDM cover of Massive Attack’s “Unfinished Sympathy. I decided that trying to replicate the excellent production done by The Six would be a good learning exercise for me. This is what resulted. Not nearly as good as their version, but I have learned a great deal from studying their work. Vocals are by Anastasia Pappas.

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Musicwithoutborders
Musicwithoutborders 20th Jan 2023 14:06 - 2 years ago
Hello Eric,
How are you doing?
Hey, this track is still shining my friend.
Great track.
Well done.
Maj
phantomproduction
phantomproduction 7th Oct 2022 09:22 - 2 years ago
Hey Eric! very good ! good groove, great track, dude!
Michael
2Sisters
2Sisters 22nd Apr 2022 13:11 - 3 years ago
Hello, unfortunately I can't judge the original song because I don't know it. So I can say without prejudice that I like your interpretation very much. Great groove, great mix and of course a singer with a great voice. Greetings Manu
MPOProduction
MPOProduction 17th Apr 2022 10:54 - 3 years ago
very nice vibe ...
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 4th Feb 2022 20:32 - 3 years ago
Oh really like that synth sweep as the vocal comes in..I can hear why this track would offer some challenges and I can hear you (as many have already said) really nailed a fab mix. I sure can`t hear anything you might improve on and I wouldn`t be a good source of advice on the genre...but I gotta say Eric, even though Trane/EDM aren`t on my regular listening menu, I could get to like it real quick if I were hearing more like this...superb bit of musical work my friend....Now...you are overdue for a new one (looking at the date on this one)...so have at it eh....cheers....Ed
AtticElla
AtticElla 11th Dec 2021 06:08 - 3 years ago
I see you haven't posted much lately. I definitely would love to listen to more of this. This track is fantastic. I listened to the The Six cover and you did a great job! You definitely know your EDM. =D

Ella
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 12th Dec 2021 - 3 years ago
Thanks, Ella. Took a lot of work, but I'm reasonably pleased with the resulting track.

Went out in my car today for errands and played your "Immortal" track. Sounded really good in the car. I was, again, very impressed with your production. :)
crucethus
crucethus 11th Dec 2021 04:42 - 3 years ago
Very nice Eric, I hope you and the family have been and still are safe in this covid environment. I am afraid it (Covid) is not done with us just yet. Listening to this you did an awesome job with stereo separation and depth of the mix, as well as the EQ is just spot on. Myself, I have been doing some Italo disco lately which is out of my comfort zone, but still fun to make.
https://www.youtube.com/user/bognorlittle
This is a fun youtube channel of some damn good underground disco, EDM, and various electronic sounds. You might enjoy this.
carry on!
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 12th Dec 2021 - 3 years ago
Hi, Steve1

thanks for the comment. Yes, we are both fine. Got our booster shots a couple of days ago. Still, keeping our heads down, so to speak. I agree, COVID is not done with us yet.

thanks for the info on the YT channel. I will check it out. Sounds interesting!

Eric
DijamMusic
DijamMusic 22nd Apr 2021 02:54 - 4 years ago
Hi Eric,
I had a chance to listen to the original(The Six).
You've done this track brilliantly.
Well done
Maj
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 22nd Apr 2021 - 4 years ago
Thanks, Maj. I'm glad you were able to hear the original. It's a great track. There are things going on in it that I simply couldn't figure out how to do. But, it definitely was worth trying.

I think now I will get back to working on something original. :)

Eric
Hugheymusic
Hugheymusic 17th Apr 2021 20:35 - 4 years ago
WoW Bro I'm speechless, I'll try to give my 2 cents on this one I haven't heard the original but I gotta say I absolutely love your version that kick comes through perfect I dont know how to do that, I love how the bass and kick work together man sounds pro 100% quality right here! Man I have so much respect for knowing that you are or was a Lawyer no wonder you articulate your self so well man mad respect to you and your grind. I'm def a fan now Bro Love your style sounds like something I would hear on the radio!!
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 18th Apr 2021 - 4 years ago
Hi, Hughey. Well, the original is a lot better, but I definitely learned a lot trying to replicate what The Six did.

I've got all the tools I need to make a really great track, but it's the skill set that needs a lot more development. That said, I'm not unhappy with the result. It was a LOT of work. Nothing was meshing properly.

I don't know if The Six used some esoteric quantization factor, but I had to fine tune every note of the bass tracks by hand and I had to do it time and time again to get it working right.

And then, when I got the vocal part from Anastasia, nothing seemed to lock in properly so I had to re-do all sorts of individual tracks all over again. I think I made some fundamental errors someplace because it shouldn't have been so difficult to get a decent sounding track.

I almost gave up on it. Let it just sit for a couple of weeks, then went back and dug in. Now I'm working through a tutorial on how to make trance, which is my favourite EDM genre.

There's a lot of discipline required to practice law. And, a lot of discipline required to develop the chops necessary to produce good EDM tracks. And, creativity, of course, in both fields. I was never talented enough to make it as a professional musician, so law was a wise decision. But, I never abandoned my connection with music.

My major regret, at this stage of my life, is having sold my 1965 Gretsch Country Gentleman guitar and my Ampeg amp when I started law school I definitely miss them now. :(

Eric

Eric
terryjmhitsong
terryjmhitsong 17th Apr 2021 16:24 - 4 years ago
wow eric what a surprise from you...you have hidden pop talent....great job......love it
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 18th Apr 2021 - 4 years ago
Thanks, Terry. I actually like pop. Not afraid to admit it! And EDM as well.

Creating a really good track is a challenge, regardless of the genre, I think.

I've been reflecting on the significance of the people here on Looperman and the music they create. It's all over the map in terms of genres and production methods, but the great thing is that everybody is creating something and expressing themselves artistically. That's pretty wonderful when you think about it.

I don't connect with everything I hear on Looperman, but I respect every member who's made the effort and has posted something they have created.

Eric
chesterfester
chesterfester 15th Apr 2021 16:46 - 4 years ago
Hi Eric,

yes, Massive Attack were, er 'massive' and certainly tucked away in my favourites. You are correct Lawyer (good listeners I would hazard a guess?) to top music producer is not a natural career progression! Although there is probably some multi-Bentley owning person in, say, LA running around with such a career pathway!! I am based in Liverpool, you may have heard of it (!) and it is a good place for bands, I love the City. Are you on Soundcloud? Also Amazing Radio? They are good shop fronts for your work if you did not already know. I made a big mistake today amd in error deleted my Soundcloud account, ooof! Hopefully they can retrieve it, fingers and eyes are crossed.
Take care Eric and keep listening and producing. Bruce Essar (Chester is our cat!)
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 15th Apr 2021 - 4 years ago
Hi, Bruce. Chester is a fine name for a cat. Our's is called "Bailey". :)

No. I am not on Soundcloud or Amazing Radio. I decided some years ago to just keep my tracks here on Looperman, where there is more of a community and I can get constructive advice.

I have no aspirations of becoming a "real" producer. At my age (74) this is very much a hobby for me. But, I definitely am trying to produce decent stuff and to continuously improve. Never stop learning. :)

Eric
chesterfester
chesterfester 14th Apr 2021 03:14 - 4 years ago
Very nice work Eric, you should be proud.
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 14th Apr 2021 - 4 years ago
Thanks for the kind comment, Chester.

I see that you are from the UK. Were you familiar with the Massive Attack original or the cover done by The Six? As time goes by I realize how much good music I've somehow totally missed hearing.

Should have spent more time listening and less time trying to be a lawyer, I guess. :)
xstokes
xstokes 13th Apr 2021 18:37 - 4 years ago
i’m unfamiliar w the original, so maybe you can consider this a blindfold test of sorts. it’s a solid tune, made better by the quality of the playing and careful sound selection. i’m attracted by the fact that while it’s a very polished production, it’s not airbrushed beyond having any personality, in fact i thought it was bursting with personality. enjoyed it very much!
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 13th Apr 2021 - 4 years ago
Thanks for the encouragment, Xstokes. I was unfamiliar with the original as well. It really is a great example of really well crafted dance track. I think a great deal of thought and skill went into making it.

The original original, by Massive Attack is pretty unique.

There's another cover version by a group called "Hooverphonic" which I think is amazing. Even more symphonic.

Eric
bringerofDOOM
bringerofDOOM 13th Apr 2021 05:55 - 4 years ago
Great sound quality, crisp. I like the volume control also (not normalized).

If you want less tracks, try printing a few at once to a wav/flac file to help stay organized and safe space/processing power.

Once again though, sounds very nice.
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 13th Apr 2021 - 4 years ago
Thanks for the feedback. Your suggestion about committing groups of tracks to an audio file is very sound. I know I should be doing that, even with projects that have much fewer tracks. I've always avoided that because I was afraid that I would later decide that I needed to adjust the midi or effects on a track and wouldn't be able to do that. But, thinking about your comment I realized that was stupid on my part. I can just make a copy of the project and then print the tracks, as you suggested. Or, in Logic, I can just make a new "alternative" of the project, so if I do need to make a change, I can just go back to one of the earlier alternatives where the tracks were in their original form. I resolve to follow your suggestion in the future. Plus, I really need to build a good mixing template and stick with it. This project taught me that my "housekeeping" practices really need improvement. :)

Eric
DijamMusic
DijamMusic 12th Apr 2021 23:34 - 4 years ago
Hello Eric,
How are you doing?
I hope you are keeping well in these challenging times.
Wow, I love it.
Great track my friend.
Well done.
Fav'd and downloaded mate.
Maj
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 13th Apr 2021 - 4 years ago
Thanks, Maj. My wife and I are doing well here in Ottawa, although covid cases are increasing rapidly and we're under a stay at home order for all of Ontario. I read today that the UK is opening up. I trust that you are keeping safe.

Glad you liked the track. It was a nightmare to produce, for some reason. It has 127 individual tracks, not counting the AUX tracks that I created to simplify mix down. Had a devil of time getting all the parts to fit in the pocket. Strict quantization was not an option.

The track by The Six is a great example of an excellent EDM track. Sounds simple, but is quite complex, many layers, carefully chosen patches for the instruments, a very clear overall sound, but also quite rich. It was an excellent choice I think as a learning exercise. Made me realize how much I have to learn. :)

Eric

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