Now this is different...and in a very good way...I can hear the tought that you put into the composition SJ...that widening on the kick is a bit unusual but really effective in this track...really nice job of the way you have the vocals and music interacting and the way the sounds are placed around the vocal...I`m listening with reasonable good earphones and the mix sounds fine to me ...SJ never stop doing the kind of music that appeals to YOU...and dont give a dm about what genre it seems to fit...The music innovators who have influence the world of music didn`t accomplish anything by trying to sound like everybody else...I love your musical imagination....keep on doing it...and a big well done to you on this one...Ed
Oh, this was as a serious and very warm hearted pep talk to the unsecure side of me!
I hear you Ed and thank you for that - although my shallow side still is hoping to some day accomplish something more commercial and not just odd sounding songs...but it seems that I really can't hear the difference anyway! =D
Maybe I'm doomed to create oddness.
Thank you so much for listening and putting your thoughts in writing, it really means a LOT!
Take care and have a great evening/day/night/morning. =)
HI! Man, you are developing like crazy! :) I really, really like the first 'chorus' and comes back at 1:40 I believe. That's just awesome. The changeups I'm not so sure about. After the chorus i think you still need some glue. I mean extra chords to make it less of shock if u know what I mean. No problem to go to another key. But maybe a 'pivot' chord will do the trick. I'm not pro in arranging, but I use some basic schemes to help me write. I decide which rootkey a track is gonna be and write around that.
this scheme was really helpful to me, wish someone gave it to me earlier. :) Then when you decide another key is going to be the root note in a break for instance, (I) I think chord II and IV of your first choice key are used mostly to pivot it.
If you have an Smartphone I use an app called 'suggester'. Search chord progression in the app store. In this you can choose certain keys and build reaaally easy some chord progressions. Hope I've helped a bit! Maybe you can find some extra chords here!
All this is just a help, you're absolutely not bounded to such theory. Cheers!
You have to be an angel (or something similar to one...)
Thank you SO MUCH for all those advice and suggestions! I'm taking a small pause from this track now but will come back and all what you wrote will be very educational and useful when I continue.
Hi it's me again. Your English is fine. Yes it's very hard to master with a Daw. what I recommend is mix down to wave or aiff file an good but kind of neutral mix. than purchase a mastering program to pump up the mix.
If you go to : http://vst-club.com/vst-plug-ins-c-119.html
you can get IZotope Ozone Advanced 5.0 or other mastering tools . It's only $15 so it's an amazing deal
Kate Bush http://www.katebush.com/home
Keep it up it's a great song in need of a little dressing up. Keep me posted
Hi you again!!
Well, that is actually an affordable price so I will take a look at that alternative. Thank you SO MUCH for taking your time with this track!
And I already love Kate Bush! ;)
I was just wondering about modest tweeks. One thought is less reverb on the vocal and maybe a little too much limiting on the overall master???????????. What did you use to master it?
OK - yeah, I tend to overly use the reverb on the vocals. And I used A LOT of some kind of limiting (with EQ somehow..) on the both drumloops.
It's mastered only in FL 10 so there is a lot to do I guess, to get it right.
I'm really in the beginning here in every way, trying to learn how to use that DAW. And I should get some other mastering...stuff to make the mastering in. Gaaah - my English - sorry it's hard to explain! =)
Tremendous work you made incorporating these vocals so well into a very uncommon and interesting instrumental !
I like it a lot, it's so unusual !
Bravooo !
xo
Thank you for listening!
I'm so glad you actually liked it.
The vocal was really a challenge and still it doesn't really fit perfectly everywhere. I should probably have listened to the original track before I began to create my own version of it...
Honestly I do not think, because, what you have produced here is very original: Instrumentation, Rhythmic, integration of voice ..... and effects.
In summary, it's unexpected, pleasant to listen to, a good concept.
Reminds me of the chord changes of the ATB tune Your not alone. very eclectic work from you! And I see your developing your FL piano style. 2:58 is not out of tune per say but just in the wrong key. Has potential though!
Steve
Hello Steve!
I loved that ATB tune and the Olive version even more! Just listened to it after so many years when I saw your comment. Thanks for bringing all these epic old tunes back to my ears!
Oh, so it's the wrong key at 2:58! I'll look in to that, that part really gave me some headaches...maybe I'll removed it alltogether.
Thank you Steve for listening and giving advice!!
Have a nice day over there.
She sounds a lot like Kate Bush now that you mention it. I was looking for a link to her webpage so you could listen to her some more and discovered that she really is going places already:http://www.devynrose.com/
REALLY?!
You just made my day - Thank you!!
I wasn't sure of anything anymore, is it really bad or what's wrong with it, people are listening and noone is commenting. And I still loved the song myself - a very strange situation. Lol
Do you mean that it needs tweeking or if there is tweeking already? Well - my answer is that I tried to master it and used some effects which sort of worked...not so good. So will have to continue mastering and even remixing a bit later on.
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I hear you Ed and thank you for that - although my shallow side still is hoping to some day accomplish something more commercial and not just odd sounding songs...but it seems that I really can't hear the difference anyway! =D
Maybe I'm doomed to create oddness.
Thank you so much for listening and putting your thoughts in writing, it really means a LOT!
Take care and have a great evening/day/night/morning. =)
http://www.musictheory.net/lessons/57
this scheme was really helpful to me, wish someone gave it to me earlier. :) Then when you decide another key is going to be the root note in a break for instance, (I) I think chord II and IV of your first choice key are used mostly to pivot it.
If you have an Smartphone I use an app called 'suggester'. Search chord progression in the app store. In this you can choose certain keys and build reaaally easy some chord progressions. Hope I've helped a bit! Maybe you can find some extra chords here!
All this is just a help, you're absolutely not bounded to such theory. Cheers!
Thank you SO MUCH for all those advice and suggestions! I'm taking a small pause from this track now but will come back and all what you wrote will be very educational and useful when I continue.
Take care! =)
If you go to :
http://vst-club.com/vst-plug-ins-c-119.html
you can get IZotope Ozone Advanced 5.0 or other mastering tools . It's only $15 so it's an amazing deal
Kate Bush http://www.katebush.com/home
Keep it up it's a great song in need of a little dressing up. Keep me posted
Well, that is actually an affordable price so I will take a look at that alternative. Thank you SO MUCH for taking your time with this track!
And I already love Kate Bush! ;)
Take care.
Kyle
It's mastered only in FL 10 so there is a lot to do I guess, to get it right.
I'm really in the beginning here in every way, trying to learn how to use that DAW. And I should get some other mastering...stuff to make the mastering in. Gaaah - my English - sorry it's hard to explain! =)
great work, vocal is awesome :)
I like it a lot, it's so unusual !
Bravooo !
xo
I'm so glad you actually liked it.
The vocal was really a challenge and still it doesn't really fit perfectly everywhere. I should probably have listened to the original track before I began to create my own version of it...
"my own ears feel very unreliable" ?
Honestly I do not think, because, what you have produced here is very original: Instrumentation, Rhythmic, integration of voice ..... and effects.
In summary, it's unexpected, pleasant to listen to, a good concept.
Your ears are still good ....
Dan
But I'm really beginning to wonder about my musical perception...maybe it's too odd.
Well, it's a comfort to know that you got out something worth listening to from this anyway.
Take care!
Steve
I loved that ATB tune and the Olive version even more! Just listened to it after so many years when I saw your comment. Thanks for bringing all these epic old tunes back to my ears!
Oh, so it's the wrong key at 2:58! I'll look in to that, that part really gave me some headaches...maybe I'll removed it alltogether.
Thank you Steve for listening and giving advice!!
Have a nice day over there.
You just made my day - Thank you!!
I wasn't sure of anything anymore, is it really bad or what's wrong with it, people are listening and noone is commenting. And I still loved the song myself - a very strange situation. Lol
Do you mean that it needs tweeking or if there is tweeking already? Well - my answer is that I tried to master it and used some effects which sort of worked...not so good. So will have to continue mastering and even remixing a bit later on.