Popular doesn't equal good.. Go and listen to the top forty and tell me it's all good music.. Naaahhh..
Retaliate all you like dude, I'm comfortable in my skills... I do have the right, it's called freedom of expression.. A real musician would understand that...
Here's something you could do better... Everything...
Your "song" was a great reference to the somewhat talented Franko75.
Plenty of originality? You name five loopers and I highly doubt you changed the original loops much... Just a guess though..
I would like to be helpful, genuinely I would, but I feel you're a lost cause, yet another dude with a laptop and FL.. Over-saturating the market with drivel, making it harder for talented, hard-working musicians, to flourish...
In summation stop trying to sound like everybody else and don't get pissed at what some random dude on the internet thinks..
The reason I'm so "pissed" is because what you're saying isn't even advice, it isn't even criticism. It's just insults, for no reason. And I didn't say popular equals good, I was just saying that you're the ONLY person I've ever met who hates my track. That's got to count for something.
You haven't even provided a single thing I could do better. Saying "everything" isn't criticism, it's just another way to insult me. And while I do enjoy franko75's work, I don't see how this is a "reference" to him. I haven't even used one of his loops.
Also, please learn to count better.
If you "would like to be helpful", maybe try being helpful. And don't think I didn't notice that last shot there. I feel I'm plenty talented and I put in a lot of work in my tracks.
That being said, I can see that I can't change your opinion with this track, so I suggest you listen to some of my others. You might find something you like.
Hey buddy! I enjoyed reading your comment, and I thank you for listening! Your last words "That snare though" had me wondering what you meant... is it positive or negative? It was hard to tell. It seems that I stamp myself into everything I am involved with, possibly too much so, much to the dismay of employers, government officials, police and doctors. Oh well. Thanks again!
Jazz & hip hop.. Ah yeah.. I need more of this in my life.. I usually hang by the river after work, chill, maybe smoke a little something, with a book, downloading for sure. It'll be perfect for that.
Masterful.. Old school.. I imagine a brain on MDMA would melt hearing this XD.. The nineties were a good time for music..
I can't think of a single thing that could improve this, I thoroughly enjoyed that.. Great work, I'll be stopping by your page for more when time permits. Meta :)
Ok, intro drums aren't as generic as expected.. Let's see where this goes.. Hmm... I can't say I enjoy it but hearing this after at a pathetic attempt to "initiate the bass" (check the featured tracks) I can appreciate what you're trying to do... Creative to say the least.. You've used dynamics well... It still lacks something to my ears.. And perhaps change your wording, you give the impression Youtube released your track...
Did this track fall out of the trope tree, hitting every generic branch on the way down? There's absolutely no life to this, nothing unique that would make it your own.. Place this next to most other "dubstep" tracks you hear these days and you could swear the same guy made it.. I could take apart this track sound by sound a link to other tracks that have the EXACT same thing going on... Harsh perhaps but heed my words, do your own thing, how do you expect to stand out with this trite?
Considering the original version is my second most popular track, I think I'm doing just fine standing out, thank you very much.
Also, don't expect to come to me and throw your barrage of insults at me and not have me retaliate. You have NO right to just come in here and insult my track relentlessly. If you're going to bash every single bit of a track, at least provide some actual criticism, or maybe something I could do better!
Also, going to OTHER TRACKS and hating on this one is probably the most scummy thing you could do.
I feel I've done plenty original with this, such as the double drop and halfway incorporation of pads and other synths, as well as layering them throughout the track as a callback to weave it together.
I don't see enough heavy metal here.. Lets see what we have here :D
Excited already.... Yessss... @1:16 that switch up takes me back to my teen years... It has a similar vibe to Slipknot's Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat... I fucking loved that album... Oww it ended.. I genuinely loved that.. Well done guys..
I think a little more tweaking on the vocals may be needed, perhaps bring down the frequencies somewhere between the low -mid.. I could be wrong, try it :)
The guitar has certainly given the track some extra life often missing in electronic music, kudos.. I want more guitars in my heavy beats type of music but the results of my recordings just don't match up to the heavy sounds I use.. Too thin.. Working on it.. A better amp perhaps.
As for the track, I haven't much to say besides the drums, (the ending bars of the guitar were pretty fantastic) I would like to hear a lot more variation, for example at around 3:05 you could add a few kicks to that stuttering to give the track more groove. Take that with some salt from a guy who loves his drums :) Meta.
Came back for more.. I feel your pain man, I don't like this adult/responsibility thing.. I can't remember who said this but I recall reading this: To make it in music, sign on and live with your Mother... Doesn't sound appealing.. Hoping to hear more dude :D
Mudhoen, your name rings a bell.. I'm loving that line that kicks in at 1:00... at 1:30 I would have done a small break down, perhaps a minuscule silence before the hats kick in.. 2:45 very painful, as in it feels like the expression of pain in a beautiful way.. It's rare to hear emotion in electronic music and you good sir have nailed it.. My condolences brother.
Thank you very much for your detailed comment and the condolences. Being back in music really makes it all better to chew. I will change and add a small break later on. Good idea!
Ah fuck yes Oz.. I'm always excited to see your name pop up.. It's shocking that you're not more popular in the Grime scene. I was disappointed when the track ended, had to play it twice.. I love your use of those snares around 0:15, fantastic man, I may borrow that idea.. Nothing but praise my friend, well done.
thanks my bro...i just need to spend more time on music,its rare i re open a beat,i jus get to a point,export and thats it lol...its all about time for me,married with kids and a long arse job = no music time :(
hi Metabolic. Thanks for your supportive comment. The way I did this is to sit on the piano first thing in the morning, and play a bunch of scales and arpeggios. Then I just play anything at random. After a while, something good starts to happen, and that is the basis for the track. The other thing that was quite interesting, is that the organ sound was not something I would normally use because it sounds a bit soft, but as a contrast with the bright piano sound, it seems to work well
Bob
Great work fellas, everything sounds amazingly polished, I would expect to have heard this on the radio/music channel.
I really hope it gains some traction. Again, great work :)
There's always a feeling of child-like innocence to your music.. This is a good thing mind.. Very creative as usual.. It's weird as hell, you keep doing your thing, it's a pleasure to listen, thank you :)
Thank you Metabolic for the kind words. I suppose the "innocence" you speak of is probably related to the aspect of the song which delves all the way back to 1994's experiences. Can't do much other than my thing... definitely not going to do other people's things...heh! Thanks again!
Yes, it's pretty good fun when those fat drums kick in.
"That vocal sample is on point."
It totally isn't as there are no vocal samples in the track. If there were, I probably would have mentioned it in my description. Give me a time reference and I'll tell you exactly what you're hearing. Probably a cello sound. I hope you've read that all this riffage is distorted cello. I still think most of it sounds exactly like guitar.
"My headphones are screwed so I cannot comment on the mix.."
That is a shame but it seems you've at least heard something worthwhile.
"@4:14 a great switch, evolving, then back to that southern/nola feeling riffage.. "
Yes, I get funky, with the distorted Rhodes part (plus some clean cello bowing underneath) and then it's back to the badass riffage. But, for the third and final heavy movement, I introduce some different synth arps and melodies.
Great to hear you'll have some new music soon. I still haven't got round to hearing all your current Looperman tracks. Must start changing that.
Damn she is good... Weird, good weird... Although I feel there should be a little more in the male vocalist, I get why they're like that but there's too much breaking if you get me.. Not bad but needs more confidence for me.. Overall though it's very good, get a bit more confidence in the male vocals and you're golden. A rare request from me but I have three tracks that would fit her style perfectly, I think, if she would be interested the tracks in question are "Fake, Wreck It, Monatomic and Shade" they can be found on my profile, they were all designed for a vocalist but you know how flaky rappers can be..
Oh damn.. That takes me to a place I've forgotten.. Something about the vocals I can't place.. A beautiful composition.. Such good music on the loop at the moment, keep it up guys!
Hey there! Sorry it took a while to get this far in the list of comments! Very happy you enjoyed listening, and I hope you took a listen to the updated version as well... it's significantly more pleasing. I really don't know much 90's techno, mostly industrial when it comes to electronic from that era. I have been more influenced by German music and culture of late, so that makes perfect sense. Been having a lovely time in the studio during the moments I get to spend there. Thank you for listening!
I'm usually harsher on my reviews in this genre.. Let's see... It's not generic.. Well mixed... Vocals work.. Nice sidechaining effect.. It's good, I'm just not feeling it, I think I just have a whole other vision of the genre... Nice switch towards the end but it was anticipated.. 6/10 from a guy who usually give 1/10 to the genre..
Harsh reviews are what make us better, so really you can pick away at whatever you like. I'm not gonna pretend I'm that good, as I've only been doing this for a year and a bit, so criticism really helps (provided people actually state what's wrong, of course).
... I have no words.. I just want to listen... Perhaps that can serve as my review.. I hope you re-record this when your set up is better.. I recommend The Behringer B-2 Pro, cheap, sounds great for it's price... I love the little click click sound of the space bar at the end, I know that sound too well XD.. That was really fantastic man, I'll be keeping my eye out for it in the future..
New to producing, I'll go easy... Hmm.. I like... Very fucking good, I was expecting trash but I'm pleasantly surprised.. I would add some filter effect on the hats in places like 2:24.. For the length of time you've been at it I'm impressed, I'm looking forward to hearing more :)
OOh the Sabbath is strong.. Nailed Ward's groove in the fills.. Felt a vocal vibe at 0:48, gave me some ideas.. I may have a tinker... So much good Rock/Blues on Looperman lately.. I may have to get back into it.. That was great man, I really enjoyed that, although I do feel there should be a short switch up after the end, maybe something a little faster for 8 or 16 bars..
Everyone's saying Sabbath and I don't disagree but I really rarely listen to them. My stoner/doom references are more 90s and since then. But, yes, Sabbath did basically invent this sort of genre.
However, the big, big difference between this track and perhaps any of their stuff is the use of deep chill and ambient elements. Never heard that in one of their tracks but I'm no Sabbath expert so maybe later stuff has it.
"Felt a vocal vibe at 0:48"
I think that's just a guitar note and strings coming together though there are subtle vocal samples in this too (quite possibly also at that point).
" I do feel there should be a short switch up after the end, maybe something a little faster for 8 or 16 bars."
I hear what you're saying and, yes, it would have been so, so easy to take this double time and really pound away with more and more badass riffage.
However, I do double time/half time drum stuff so often that I'm trying to do less of it - just for variation in my body of musical work.
If you want to hear some pumping, mental riffs and switching between fast and mid tempo, try this beauty:
Those drums are solid, clean, nice.. Good panning... I always find good panning helps with the head bobbing.. Oooh that guitar is fantastic.. Massively creative.. I was hearing a "boom, che che che che" then into some four to the floor kind of beat just before it finished... That was great, well done.
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Retaliate all you like dude, I'm comfortable in my skills... I do have the right, it's called freedom of expression.. A real musician would understand that...
Here's something you could do better... Everything...
Your "song" was a great reference to the somewhat talented Franko75.
Plenty of originality? You name five loopers and I highly doubt you changed the original loops much... Just a guess though..
I would like to be helpful, genuinely I would, but I feel you're a lost cause, yet another dude with a laptop and FL.. Over-saturating the market with drivel, making it harder for talented, hard-working musicians, to flourish...
In summation stop trying to sound like everybody else and don't get pissed at what some random dude on the internet thinks..
You haven't even provided a single thing I could do better. Saying "everything" isn't criticism, it's just another way to insult me. And while I do enjoy franko75's work, I don't see how this is a "reference" to him. I haven't even used one of his loops.
Also, please learn to count better.
If you "would like to be helpful", maybe try being helpful. And don't think I didn't notice that last shot there. I feel I'm plenty talented and I put in a lot of work in my tracks.
That being said, I can see that I can't change your opinion with this track, so I suggest you listen to some of my others. You might find something you like.
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That snare though :)
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Dude...
Dude...
Beautiful..
Check out my other tracks!
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Masterful.. Old school.. I imagine a brain on MDMA would melt hearing this XD.. The nineties were a good time for music..
I can't think of a single thing that could improve this, I thoroughly enjoyed that.. Great work, I'll be stopping by your page for more when time permits. Meta :)
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Also, don't expect to come to me and throw your barrage of insults at me and not have me retaliate. You have NO right to just come in here and insult my track relentlessly. If you're going to bash every single bit of a track, at least provide some actual criticism, or maybe something I could do better!
Also, going to OTHER TRACKS and hating on this one is probably the most scummy thing you could do.
I feel I've done plenty original with this, such as the double drop and halfway incorporation of pads and other synths, as well as layering them throughout the track as a callback to weave it together.
In summation, fuck you.
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Excited already.... Yessss... @1:16 that switch up takes me back to my teen years... It has a similar vibe to Slipknot's Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat... I fucking loved that album... Oww it ended.. I genuinely loved that.. Well done guys..
I think a little more tweaking on the vocals may be needed, perhaps bring down the frequencies somewhere between the low -mid.. I could be wrong, try it :)
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As for the track, I haven't much to say besides the drums, (the ending bars of the guitar were pretty fantastic) I would like to hear a lot more variation, for example at around 3:05 you could add a few kicks to that stuttering to give the track more groove. Take that with some salt from a guy who loves his drums :) Meta.
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Bob
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I really hope it gains some traction. Again, great work :)
Brado
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My headphones are screwed so I cannot comment on the mix..
The break is fantastic and complements the return very well..
@4:14 a great switch, evolving, then back to that southern/nola feeling riffage.. Well done dude, I'm very impressed.
The concept & execution is fantastic..
You must excuse my absence, work has been killing me.. But
I have a new musical venture set for October so you'll hear many tunes coming out soon.
Good to hear from you.
Yes, it's pretty good fun when those fat drums kick in.
"That vocal sample is on point."
It totally isn't as there are no vocal samples in the track. If there were, I probably would have mentioned it in my description. Give me a time reference and I'll tell you exactly what you're hearing. Probably a cello sound. I hope you've read that all this riffage is distorted cello. I still think most of it sounds exactly like guitar.
"My headphones are screwed so I cannot comment on the mix.."
That is a shame but it seems you've at least heard something worthwhile.
"@4:14 a great switch, evolving, then back to that southern/nola feeling riffage.. "
Yes, I get funky, with the distorted Rhodes part (plus some clean cello bowing underneath) and then it's back to the badass riffage. But, for the third and final heavy movement, I introduce some different synth arps and melodies.
Great to hear you'll have some new music soon. I still haven't got round to hearing all your current Looperman tracks. Must start changing that.
Thanks again.
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Maybe you find the place again if you listen once more to this track :)
I did a lot of collaboration with Burt right now. So lets see when the next hit comes out :)
stay tuned
joe
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Everyone's saying Sabbath and I don't disagree but I really rarely listen to them. My stoner/doom references are more 90s and since then. But, yes, Sabbath did basically invent this sort of genre.
However, the big, big difference between this track and perhaps any of their stuff is the use of deep chill and ambient elements. Never heard that in one of their tracks but I'm no Sabbath expert so maybe later stuff has it.
"Felt a vocal vibe at 0:48"
I think that's just a guitar note and strings coming together though there are subtle vocal samples in this too (quite possibly also at that point).
" I do feel there should be a short switch up after the end, maybe something a little faster for 8 or 16 bars."
I hear what you're saying and, yes, it would have been so, so easy to take this double time and really pound away with more and more badass riffage.
However, I do double time/half time drum stuff so often that I'm trying to do less of it - just for variation in my body of musical work.
If you want to hear some pumping, mental riffs and switching between fast and mid tempo, try this beauty:
The Bigger The Fatter The Better
http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/155188
and this one too
Valvedriven
http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/163181
Thanks for your thoughts.
Big comment coming up on your latest track as I'm already a big fan of your stuff.
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