Great intro...and then into a kind of lilting quality...I like the way the crystal melody lines fly above that big rich paddy background...very tasty guitar bits really work a treat Evan...There is something of a Celtic vibe to my ears...from the melody lines I think...that picked up change around 3:30 is great..it changes the whole vibe of the track yet maintains the theme...The mix is perfect...This is just a really well done piece of music...and I enjoyed it....big fav....Ed
Glad you liked the track. bought a small lamp for the music room to use instead of the bright overhead fixture. The lamp gives the room a softer, more intimate feel, and brought out the guitar lines. Strange, I know, but it was a big change to my feelings while writing. Not sure if that makes sense, but yeah. Softly lit studio brought on a softer song. What would a strobe, blacklight and discoball do?!
You have gotten yourself another review. I will try to make it an ill one.
Great title. I wonder where this land you speak of is. Perhaps located between Canada and Mexico?
Stretchy 25 sec intro is good, hymn-like, slightly church organesque stuff. I very much recognise the Paul sound there.
You signature palm muting appears and the ambience swells into the bass+drums arrival. Then loads more clean, straight note slave lead g work. It's pleasant but I'd like to hear some vibrato, pitch bends etc - just more vibe and emphasis on certain notes.
Snare is not a great one and may perhaps always be at the same velocity.
1:50 lead g work is nicer now, with some delay and panning and stuff. This has some sadness and emotion to it. Kind of chill out music. Also quite cinematic.
2:39 lead bass g takes over. Some nice drum work here eg 2:59 and the same, repeated idea various times later.
3:27 very nice, warm bass g tone. Slightly like it's being rubbed. I think this section to the end should occur much earlier eg after the ambient intro. It's stronger than all of 0:39-3:27.
Steady bass drum drives that bass g along in a good, minimalist way and the music box is good too. Sort of bell-like.
3:59 hats make this a bit like chillout dance music. Palm muted guitar is better here and then we get a decent, slightly distorted lead. Some useful cymbal fills eg on the bell of the cymbal.
Fadeout intro is good, aided by that low, sustained synth note.
Overall: decent yet unspectacular. Does sound quite a bit like various bits of your other tracks but that's no bad thing.
There is little of interest between those two places. Just a vast herd of slack-jawed morons, indignant zealots, phone-starers, meth-cooks, pill-poppers, high-speed internet, fried chicken and automatic weapons. A few mountains, a big ditch and a highly active volcanic region. Most photos of nature's beauty usually contain at least three cell phone towers peppered throughout the distance, and now, a 40 year old nerd playing Pokemon Go, walking while staring at a smartphone. No,... there is nothing good to see here anymore. The people ruin it. I don't even need to go into the history that brought on the name. It says enough.
Ahh, the snare. Indeed. I scoured my files for a fitting snare and really, this one fit the best. However, I do believe the velocity did not get any humanizing or tweaking done. Will easily be fixed.
I don't feel that I need EZ or Superior Drummer's programming suites, just better sounding samples, because my sampler is very functional, I just need better samples and to spend a bit more time with automation and velocity. My focus is usually the guitars. Programing is not enjoyable for me. I rush. Seems to be your strong suit. I don't have the patience. I'm lucky stuff comes out sounding as good as it does.
"decent yet unspectacular"
Not the first time I've heard that. We'll see what comes next.
Evan, who's treasures and flesh are usually very few.
Not much to complain about here, mix sounds great and all the playing works together. I liked the slowed down break around 3:30 and the build up that followed.
Must say, I like the title and the intro. The title sounds poetic and sarcastic all at the same time, clever man. The pad you chose is great, sets the tone of the song right from the beginning. Slip sliding bassorama!! Bring it on!!
The music box works well with the feel of the track and adds a bit of mystery and suspense.
That is a time-stretched section of guitar that comes in a while later. The synth comes in for the end section, though I do hear why you heard that.
Glad you liked the music box. I really dig those and thumb pianos, but they sometimes give an eerie, demented child feel to a track and I have to use something else. It's mostly here to reinforce the piano, but I brought it back for it's own section at the end.
Man, I really enjoyed listening to this track, I am into Chill Out and Ambient Track's myself, but This is by far
one of the best Chill Out tracks that I have listened too. What makes it more of a gem is that you played most of the instruments yourself..
Hats off to you Sir..
I appreciate the kind words. I believe this is the first track that I have ever labeled Chill Out. Usually I attempt heavier stuff. Sometimes it works, plenty of times it has not.
"you played most of the instruments yourself"
Yes, though I did a lot of cleaning up afterward, adding bits and fixing bits when it comes to the piano and music box. About half of the drums were patterns that I altered and the other half were built on the piano-roll.
That intro is much like app chaggi to the solar plexis, sans the hoo choo. Hits hard from the gun for sure. Really dig how you counter the aggression at mid point and mello it out a bit. But then back hard on the throttle again. A lot of interesting percussion in here but the guitars driving that hard groove and complementing ryhthms keeps it thick and interesting. Nicely depressurized outro too. Excellently produced track man.
Word up, my Missouri Methodist meth manufacturing multicellular monster.
Your last greeting was cool but you missed a small trick. If you'd ended on "globules" rather than "goblets" then you would have had "gl...gl...gl...gl". Not to worry as "goblet" is still a cool word.
I looked up salad shooters and now know what they are.
and think it's a good composition. For years, I've had mad ideas for complex stuff I could do with synths (audio too) if I had shitloads more processing power. Basically, loads of heavy, complex layering of shitloads of instruments, all morphing together and dropping in and out in complex ways. So, I'd do something called "hocketing" (sounds like an abbeviation of "hot pocketing") where I'd get one melody to be played by multiple instruments but with each instrument perhaps only playing one note in the sequence.
Maybe I'll be able to do a little more of this heavily complex stuff the next time I upgrade to a new PC. It's been 4 years since the last one so probably about time soon.
I wonder if the Slupergroupery will ever resume. All dependent on one guy, it seems.
You should get sliding again! I've hardly done any this year. Cello has dominated the last few months, but with good results.
2 nights ago, I went to see this utterly badass pair of cellists live in concert. Here they are rocking the shit out of a song you won't know. They're total virtuosos and rock as hard as the heaviest bands out there. I'm a million miles off their technical level. Press play and you will enjoy it.
This is a portal back to seventies for me ... I have long hair again!!
I have hair!!
Very nice guitar work.
Very nicely put together.
Lots of variation throughout this and it works.
This song is intense! I think I had two heartattacks and a stroke while listening. Couldn't handle the adrenaline. What did you use to record the guitars? Mic'd? CabClone? Direct in? Felt a little bit lacking in mids to my ears, but that is not a bad thing. Gives the track a sort of European sound to it. Great job as always my heart-attack-and-stroke-inducer Evan.
Recording was direct, using 5150 amp sim and Lepou cab sim with some nice impulse responses. Mids were shaped by the amp, and I took a bit more out to remove some horn-like frequencies. Gave a bit of a tape feel, and since I have no tape effect, I liked how it sounded.
Thank you, good sir, for the listen and the feedback.
"Dirty Euro" is ironic on the eve of the Brexit Vote, dontcha think!
I'm gonna use it in a sentence.
That sleazy FIFA executive paid that high class ho for a hand job in "Dirty Euros". Herself being from Wales asked instead to be paid in "slimy pounds".
"Salisbury steak was invented by an American physician, Dr. J. H. Salisbury (1823–1905), an early proponent of a low-carbohydrate diet for weight loss"
So instead of fading out the instruments, just slowly reduce the instruments measure by measure till you're left with percussion, that sometimes works better to get to an ambient feeling in the track.
Never heard of Salisbury Steak. But I do know that Salad-Shooters are guns for predominantly pacifist vegetarians. Being shot with lettuce is the equivalent of a gentle slap on the cheek though look out for some of those sharpened carrot bullets. They can really sting.
No problem regarding the misidentification. The desert shrub and hairy kayak barnacle are actually cross-species cousins. But they can never meet because of the barnacle's reverse cymbal screams. The shrub can't risk exposure to them.
Back to the track:
I think that your end section could either be a new track or should start this one. You may have opened up with the relatively weakest section, though it does get better.
You know I often do tracks containing heavy and chilled sections. However, I do also make ones with a real focus on chilling. I feel that your more chilled/steady grooving sections are some of your best so you might think about, for a change, not always mixing up heavy and chilled.
My instrument architecture knowledge is poor. I don't know what high output pickups are. I still don't even know why the active pickups on my bass g need a 9V battery to work.
"Recording four separate, yet identical tracks is a bit of a bitch."
No doubt but why stop at 4? How about 8? 64?
It seems like I might be getting intentionally ridiculous there but I have heard a composer's piece that featured about 4,000 guitarists all playing ( I think) the same thing.
Thanks for the dietary advice.
"What the fuck is a pence or a farthing? Are those things?"
Of course they are "things". I assume you mean do they still exist. Yes, though farthings are merely collectors' items as they have not been in circulation since about 1971. Pence is the plural of penny (100 of them in a pound, we still use them, not euros) but we normally just say "p" ie 50p. Our pennies are your cents, I believe.
"I've never been one to mix feet with pussies."
Fair enough but some ladies do enjoy a good toeing.
Nomad, who sold out long before you ever heard his name
Greetings, Gifter of Gargantuan Glittery & Glazed Glass Goblets. (...geeez)
Salisbury Steak is a bad cross between steak and meatloaf. Essentially a beef patty with brown gravy and a weeks supply of sodium.
A Salad Shooter is an object who's only function is to take up space in kitchen cabinets. Nothing else. The name is misleading.
"You may have opened up with the relatively weakest section"
Nowhere to go but up! I thought the beginning had more energy and felt more established than other parts. I like the beginning but an intro wouldn't hurt, I guess.
"I don't know what high output pickups are. I still don't even know why the active pickups on my bass g need a 9V battery to work."
High output pickups are stronger and are more sensitive than stock pickups. They but out a stronger signal. Like the difference with or without a Tube Screamer or OD. Your bass needs a 9v to work because you must have Humbucking pickups, like me. Are they humbuckers or single-coils? My bass takes a 9v for the Active 3-Band EQ. What bass do you have? Surely you've told me before.
" 4,000 guitarists all playing ( I think) the same thing."
Look up "Black Midi" on youtube. Wild Shit! Especially the one titled "Pi".
Dickin with a few track ideas, but nothing to even call a thought yet. I may go for a more chilled out feel.
Evan, treading so soft and lightly compromising my will, I am.
Wow just wow, this is an epic piece of music. I REALLY like the fact that most of it is made by your fingers and not by clicking a mouse. It is something I try to do as well, and I always happy to hear that others doing so too. Nothing against adding the odd electronioc stuff, or loop, but the majority should be "real". I read what the others wrote, it would be useless to more or less repeat what they wrote. In my opinion this is a very good song, and if it were mine I would be very proud of it.
Just to let you know I'v enow written the lyrics for this and hope to get something recorded today. Do you have a Soundcloud account I can link to in the credits or shall I just link to your profile on Looperman?
No pussy footing around with the intro. Bam, in yo face!! I like the second or so of amp noise before it kicks in, little things like that give songs a live feel. The whole first part is blazing hot, plenty of guitars and the drums kick ass.
I must admit my favorite part is the ending section. Might even make a cool intro for the song. It has a dark western feel to me, which I like a lot.
I've never been one to mix feet with pussies. They don't seem to go together, but does partially explain why teenagers masturbate using a sock. I see the connection now, thank you.
Glad you liked the second half. Static turned me on to a stretching program and this is it's first excursion. It will make several more appearances, I'm sure.
Greetings from the undergrowth, world champion plant identifier.
Staticus Nomadicus* here, though I bet you weren't able to identify me.
Trrrrrrrrraaaccckk!!!!
Busy, banging early action but tiny swelling intro should be twice as long. Too tiny.
Initial riffs are decent but nothing special. Sound like they need vocals.
0:30 guitar is better and we get quite a bit of muscular doublekickery.
0:58 classic Bass Bro chimey guitar sound. Pretty melodic, as usual, and kind of like a vocal line.
Back to some more rocking shit to take us to the first breakdown.
2:00 sounds cool with clean, gently chugging g fiddle. You're good at that. Palm muting, I guess. Nice delay on it. Tiny bit like Another Brick In The Wall's main guitar.
2:09 nice little chord and bass g comes to the fore. Sticky percussion is busy and good (What's brown and sticky? A stick).
This chilled middle section is very good and I like the hats. A bit like some dance music.
3:45 great switch of that riff into heaviness. Maybe could do with an open hat to beef things up as you keep it same as before (closed).
Yes, 4:24 is a lot We Care A Lot, which is a good thing. At Looperman, We Care A Lot about The Bass Bro.
5:02 nice start of skilful fade out before we get to hear your stretchy shit.
5:32 that's very cool and apocalyptic. I'm assuming you've done as advised and taken previously heard parts from the track and had fun trimming (layering?) them in this stretchy section.
5:49 very cool little fill. Sounds like a synth.
More nice stretchy fadeout as clean g takes over plus a little reverse flourish before a very good end fade.
There you go, my review came 2 weeks early.
Nomad, carefully chooning his bee by ear.
*A rare, exotic and beautiful species of desert shrub, simultaneously stationary and itinerant. Resistant to brush hogging but quickly destroyed by repetitive reverse cymbals.
Sup, supplier of Samsonite suitcases storing Salisbury Steak and Salad-Shooters.
I mis-identified you. I thought the Staticus Nomadicus was a hairy, lichen-like barnacle found on kayaks and their paddles. Scraping them off amazingly makes the sound of a reversed cymbal, then the barnacle makes a high, muffled scream as it falls blindly back into the water. Quite comical to imagine.
I will take you suggestions on this one. Longer swell on the intro, and changing to open hats later on.
"I'm assuming you've done as advised and taken previously heard parts from the track and had fun trimming (layering?) them in this stretchy section."
Yes. The stretched section is a bit from 2:00 to around 2:30. Copied a bit and dropped it's octave and blended it with the original.
Enjoyed doing the heavy guitars here. My pickups aren't high output, so I use a tube screamer, then amp and cab simulation. Quad-tracking, panning one set 100% and the other 70%. Recording four separate, yet identical tracks is a bit of a bitch. Double duty from my double tracking. I've not used the MIDI controller in a while. I need to bust it out, (or really just take the dust cover off of it, since it sits just to the right of my computer screen on a music stand.).
You implied earlier that you were "mostly" well, or something to that effect. I hope you are feeling alright and are staying healthy. I'm on a water and Guinness cleanse. Big breakfast, then all liquids, all day. Supplements and a protein shake in the evening. Kicked beef and fell in love with some different veggie burgers. Kefir is a nice thing, as well. Anyway, I'm not a dietician, I just play one on Looperman.
Evan, beggin for your fatass, dirty Euro.*
*(or pound or whatever. I don't know jack about your currency. What the fuck is a pence or a farthing? Are those things?)
Intro gets right into it, love that. 1:02, nice clean g- sound nice slap verb. This one could use some vocals. 2:01 awesome breakdown. Sort of a cha cha cha beat here, nice. I think your swamp is very clean and not murky at all. Your melodic structures always carry this appalachian modal feel in your work. 3:556 heavy and reminded me of Cult of personality from In living colour for a moment. Shit and 4:26 reminded me of old old faith no more (We Care A lot).
Don't like the main fade so much at 5:03 and the bass following as you drip into ambient fields. It's like I walked into Bed Bath and Beyond and just accidently found the Beyond! But really intriguing song. It's definitely an Evisma song but more dimensional and new ideas which is cool to hear.
Good Work.
I appreciate the kind words about my swamp. You're a hell of a fella. It's not really muddy, but dark and crickety.
Appalachian is a comparison I've never heard before. I believe I mostly play in a harmonic minor pentatonic type scale. Never got into blues or jazz. Always stuck with minor rockish vibes. Played tuba in marching band but it doesn't translate here.
Never a fan of Faith No More, so hit YouTube to hear We Care A Lot. I hear a bit with the thumb slapped bass. Not the same vibe, but I get it.
Any suggestions on what is wrong with the fading transition? Your thoughts are always appreciated. Too sudden? Ill-fitting parts?
Outstanding work here Evisma . I don't usually listen to rock tracks out here but I'm sure glad I on this one. Def. fav. from me. Have nothing to question on this track. seems like everything was placed and put just right. keep up the fantastic work. Much love -EazyBeatz :)
Really enjoyed it. I think it lends itself to some vocals. If you're interested then I would love to record some lyrics over it! Not saying Im the best singer out there but it could be fun?
I am British*, I may even be scum but I have never stolen any of Cruella De Vil's tea. No need - I have a plentiful supply on my country estate, all hand harvested by the butler. I will speak to my friends in Parliament about getting Cruella extradited to the UK so that he can be put on trial for his online lies and defamation. At the very least, his punishment is likely to be the permanent forfeit of his Korg MS2000 and I cannot rule out a custodial sentence. If so, I may visit him inside, occasionally bringing him an extra tea bag, just to rub it in.
The thing you feel is missing in your (musical) life may be your soul. Perhaps you had one and lost it, which is why I emerged empty-handed the other night. However, I have extracted many others over the years so could send you one, if you like. Bear in mind that I got the labels all mixed up recently so can't tell which is which. For instance, I took Jon Bon Jovi's a long time ago so you could end up with his. You might have to take that risk.
Advice: take more interest in your friend's wood carving. That's good stuff. If you're nice, maybe he will carve you a nice, new custom bass g. Ozark wood is nearby.
Yes, I know you worry about safe VSTs though Paul isn't, unfortunately, a VST but a standalone bit of software. Works fine for me. Could really suit you and I recommend trying it out on lap steel parts. Say you take a 1/4 bar fill and slow it down 4 times. Now it will last the whole bar so can sit behind the original part. You'll find yourself stitching together lots of bits in interesting ways. It'll add an extra layer of ambience and depth to your stuff that will be something new for you. And it'll add to your ongoing transNomadomorphism.
"I almost never play without the DAW running anymore"
Mostly the same for me. When I used to play solo resonator guitar blues live at open mic nights, I would sit in the kitchen (so, away from computer) just sliding about and footstomping as I practised jam pieces. I used to quite enjoy that simple playing in a different location from usual.
Static Soul Swiper, counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums
I'll pass on the Jove soul. It surely reeks of Aquanet and sweaty leather. I do, in fact, have a soul. I just keep it near the genitals, you know, so the wife wont find it.
I'll let Paul stretch my shit at a latter date. Been practicing alternate picking in the evenings. Never learned before. Frustrating, but that means I'm learning something new. Good stuff.
"I used to play solo resonator guitar blues live at open mic nights"
This kind of surprised me. I've never played anything publicly. When I used to jam with friends, I felt very self-conscious and really don't miss it. Smoking a fatty before and during surely didn't help matters.
"quite enjoy that simple playing in a different location from usual."
That I will try.
I hope all is well.
Evan, acting just like a nurse with all the other guys.
F**k Nuts!
"Mostly, I'm realizing that I don't have the budget to make things how I'd like, i.e. better drums, a tube amp and an electric guitar meant more for metal than my PRS, and paying for repairs on my main instrument, my dead bass guitar. I'm trying to move towards heavier metal-infused music and realized I'm very unpracticed. Just gotta grow some nuts and push through my self doubt."
There was a time years ago I could only afford radioshack shit equipment and a cheap tape deck my sister and I shared 30 bucks on buying. But I would never give that up because it taught me to make the best music possible with the shitiest sounds available. So I made some $ in the early millennium and bought some nice synths. well guess what!!! I got married and now have to think of more than one person. So I learned Linux, a free solution to OPS systems and loaded with free software like LMMS. I still use acid pro 4.0 for loops, Ardour for recording and audacity for mastering. Is it Pro-tools...no, Do I make it sound the best I can possibly make it sound...hell yeah! Do people like it...yeah some do..
you said it yourself. Honesty... that is all we as musicians can do with what we have. be honest and authentic. When you do that amazing things can happen.
Right now I am listening to Talk Talk. al 5 albums.
Album 1. New romantic, new wave crap with a few interesting songs.
Album, 2 ahh new wave and pop masterpiece 3 songs amazing 2 b sides well done. Album 3 , what's that you say, no more synths just organic instruments.. ahh well, well done lads you made 3 pop tunes out of piano and percussion and great vox and timeless songwriting plus...is that dissonance. cool ok whatever keep on. OK 4th album...what do you call this...atonal jazz. um what does your record company say about this..well at least there is one song we can say artistically brilliant. ahh so you have successfully sued and left your record company. so what is the 5th album about... umm gawd is that possible. atonal jazz again.. what is that.... you invented post rock.. well bah bye.
Mark Hollis had a vision, and be damned if that vision did not mean no record company and ending Talk Talk forever. But it was amazing as a ride, and pure balls. so don't lose the faith. do what you do and discover ehat you want when you can. that's my crazy advice from one Bro to Another.
Cru Cru
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Evan
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Glad you liked the track. bought a small lamp for the music room to use instead of the bright overhead fixture. The lamp gives the room a softer, more intimate feel, and brought out the guitar lines. Strange, I know, but it was a big change to my feelings while writing. Not sure if that makes sense, but yeah. Softly lit studio brought on a softer song. What would a strobe, blacklight and discoball do?!
I hope all is well with you.
Evan
on The Land Of Ill Gotten Gains by Evisma
You have gotten yourself another review. I will try to make it an ill one.
Great title. I wonder where this land you speak of is. Perhaps located between Canada and Mexico?
Stretchy 25 sec intro is good, hymn-like, slightly church organesque stuff. I very much recognise the Paul sound there.
You signature palm muting appears and the ambience swells into the bass+drums arrival. Then loads more clean, straight note slave lead g work. It's pleasant but I'd like to hear some vibrato, pitch bends etc - just more vibe and emphasis on certain notes.
Snare is not a great one and may perhaps always be at the same velocity.
1:50 lead g work is nicer now, with some delay and panning and stuff. This has some sadness and emotion to it. Kind of chill out music. Also quite cinematic.
2:39 lead bass g takes over. Some nice drum work here eg 2:59 and the same, repeated idea various times later.
3:27 very nice, warm bass g tone. Slightly like it's being rubbed. I think this section to the end should occur much earlier eg after the ambient intro. It's stronger than all of 0:39-3:27.
Steady bass drum drives that bass g along in a good, minimalist way and the music box is good too. Sort of bell-like.
3:59 hats make this a bit like chillout dance music. Palm muted guitar is better here and then we get a decent, slightly distorted lead. Some useful cymbal fills eg on the bell of the cymbal.
Fadeout intro is good, aided by that low, sustained synth note.
Overall: decent yet unspectacular. Does sound quite a bit like various bits of your other tracks but that's no bad thing.
Nomad, up to his neck soon to drown
"Perhaps located between Canada and Mexico?"
There is little of interest between those two places. Just a vast herd of slack-jawed morons, indignant zealots, phone-starers, meth-cooks, pill-poppers, high-speed internet, fried chicken and automatic weapons. A few mountains, a big ditch and a highly active volcanic region. Most photos of nature's beauty usually contain at least three cell phone towers peppered throughout the distance, and now, a 40 year old nerd playing Pokemon Go, walking while staring at a smartphone. No,... there is nothing good to see here anymore. The people ruin it. I don't even need to go into the history that brought on the name. It says enough.
Ahh, the snare. Indeed. I scoured my files for a fitting snare and really, this one fit the best. However, I do believe the velocity did not get any humanizing or tweaking done. Will easily be fixed.
I don't feel that I need EZ or Superior Drummer's programming suites, just better sounding samples, because my sampler is very functional, I just need better samples and to spend a bit more time with automation and velocity. My focus is usually the guitars. Programing is not enjoyable for me. I rush. Seems to be your strong suit. I don't have the patience. I'm lucky stuff comes out sounding as good as it does.
"decent yet unspectacular"
Not the first time I've heard that. We'll see what comes next.
Evan, who's treasures and flesh are usually very few.
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Must say, I like the title and the intro. The title sounds poetic and sarcastic all at the same time, clever man. The pad you chose is great, sets the tone of the song right from the beginning. Slip sliding bassorama!! Bring it on!!
The music box works well with the feel of the track and adds a bit of mystery and suspense.
It's a solid track, nice job Evan!
Wayne
"The pad you chose..."
That is a time-stretched section of guitar that comes in a while later. The synth comes in for the end section, though I do hear why you heard that.
Glad you liked the music box. I really dig those and thumb pianos, but they sometimes give an eerie, demented child feel to a track and I have to use something else. It's mostly here to reinforce the piano, but I brought it back for it's own section at the end.
I do hope all is well with you.
Evan
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one of the best Chill Out tracks that I have listened too. What makes it more of a gem is that you played most of the instruments yourself..
Hats off to you Sir..
HunterFoxzAC..
I appreciate the kind words. I believe this is the first track that I have ever labeled Chill Out. Usually I attempt heavier stuff. Sometimes it works, plenty of times it has not.
"you played most of the instruments yourself"
Yes, though I did a lot of cleaning up afterward, adding bits and fixing bits when it comes to the piano and music box. About half of the drums were patterns that I altered and the other half were built on the piano-roll.
Definitely appreciate the listen and feedback.
Take care.
Evan
on Choon Bi by Evisma
That intro is much like app chaggi to the solar plexis, sans the hoo choo. Hits hard from the gun for sure. Really dig how you counter the aggression at mid point and mello it out a bit. But then back hard on the throttle again. A lot of interesting percussion in here but the guitars driving that hard groove and complementing ryhthms keeps it thick and interesting. Nicely depressurized outro too. Excellently produced track man.
on Choon Bi by Evisma
Your last greeting was cool but you missed a small trick. If you'd ended on "globules" rather than "goblets" then you would have had "gl...gl...gl...gl". Not to worry as "goblet" is still a cool word.
I looked up salad shooters and now know what they are.
Thanks for telling me about Black Midi as that's some cool stuff. I listened to Pi, The Song With 3.1415 Million Notes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ7ipUQoik8
and think it's a good composition. For years, I've had mad ideas for complex stuff I could do with synths (audio too) if I had shitloads more processing power. Basically, loads of heavy, complex layering of shitloads of instruments, all morphing together and dropping in and out in complex ways. So, I'd do something called "hocketing" (sounds like an abbeviation of "hot pocketing") where I'd get one melody to be played by multiple instruments but with each instrument perhaps only playing one note in the sequence.
Maybe I'll be able to do a little more of this heavily complex stuff the next time I upgrade to a new PC. It's been 4 years since the last one so probably about time soon.
I wonder if the Slupergroupery will ever resume. All dependent on one guy, it seems.
You should get sliding again! I've hardly done any this year. Cello has dominated the last few months, but with good results.
2 nights ago, I went to see this utterly badass pair of cellists live in concert. Here they are rocking the shit out of a song you won't know. They're total virtuosos and rock as hard as the heaviest bands out there. I'm a million miles off their technical level. Press play and you will enjoy it.
2CELLOS - Voodoo People [Live at Exit Festival]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Un3lK8ijw
Nomad, your deer in the headlights
on Choon Bi by Evisma
I have hair!!
Very nice guitar work.
Very nicely put together.
Lots of variation throughout this and it works.
on Choon Bi by Evisma
Like your 'non-compromise' attitude...play 'live' what you can is a special treasure here between the electro-trap-hip hop site...hats off...
Headbanging and waving in 4 different parts...the special bouquet is from the 1 minute mark...that is amazing...
Couldn't be criticism...this is a mega prog hit...:-)
Handshake, Danke
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My style loves you back, but I don't think the two of you should meet. It would be quite awkward, me standing there as the two of you went at it.
That life is not for me.
The two of you should just be friends.
on Choon Bi by Evisma
This song is intense! I think I had two heartattacks and a stroke while listening. Couldn't handle the adrenaline. What did you use to record the guitars? Mic'd? CabClone? Direct in? Felt a little bit lacking in mids to my ears, but that is not a bad thing. Gives the track a sort of European sound to it. Great job as always my heart-attack-and-stroke-inducer Evan.
Brado
Recording was direct, using 5150 amp sim and Lepou cab sim with some nice impulse responses. Mids were shaped by the amp, and I took a bit more out to remove some horn-like frequencies. Gave a bit of a tape feel, and since I have no tape effect, I liked how it sounded.
Thank you, good sir, for the listen and the feedback.
Evan
on Choon Bi by Evisma
I'm gonna use it in a sentence.
That sleazy FIFA executive paid that high class ho for a hand job in "Dirty Euros". Herself being from Wales asked instead to be paid in "slimy pounds".
"Salisbury steak was invented by an American physician, Dr. J. H. Salisbury (1823–1905), an early proponent of a low-carbohydrate diet for weight loss"
So instead of fading out the instruments, just slowly reduce the instruments measure by measure till you're left with percussion, that sometimes works better to get to an ambient feeling in the track.
crulaundering
I will give it a go! Much appreciated.
on Choon Bi by Evisma
Never heard of Salisbury Steak. But I do know that Salad-Shooters are guns for predominantly pacifist vegetarians. Being shot with lettuce is the equivalent of a gentle slap on the cheek though look out for some of those sharpened carrot bullets. They can really sting.
No problem regarding the misidentification. The desert shrub and hairy kayak barnacle are actually cross-species cousins. But they can never meet because of the barnacle's reverse cymbal screams. The shrub can't risk exposure to them.
Back to the track:
I think that your end section could either be a new track or should start this one. You may have opened up with the relatively weakest section, though it does get better.
You know I often do tracks containing heavy and chilled sections. However, I do also make ones with a real focus on chilling. I feel that your more chilled/steady grooving sections are some of your best so you might think about, for a change, not always mixing up heavy and chilled.
My instrument architecture knowledge is poor. I don't know what high output pickups are. I still don't even know why the active pickups on my bass g need a 9V battery to work.
"Recording four separate, yet identical tracks is a bit of a bitch."
No doubt but why stop at 4? How about 8? 64?
It seems like I might be getting intentionally ridiculous there but I have heard a composer's piece that featured about 4,000 guitarists all playing ( I think) the same thing.
Thanks for the dietary advice.
"What the fuck is a pence or a farthing? Are those things?"
Of course they are "things". I assume you mean do they still exist. Yes, though farthings are merely collectors' items as they have not been in circulation since about 1971. Pence is the plural of penny (100 of them in a pound, we still use them, not euros) but we normally just say "p" ie 50p. Our pennies are your cents, I believe.
"I've never been one to mix feet with pussies."
Fair enough but some ladies do enjoy a good toeing.
Nomad, who sold out long before you ever heard his name
Salisbury Steak is a bad cross between steak and meatloaf. Essentially a beef patty with brown gravy and a weeks supply of sodium.
A Salad Shooter is an object who's only function is to take up space in kitchen cabinets. Nothing else. The name is misleading.
"You may have opened up with the relatively weakest section"
Nowhere to go but up! I thought the beginning had more energy and felt more established than other parts. I like the beginning but an intro wouldn't hurt, I guess.
"I don't know what high output pickups are. I still don't even know why the active pickups on my bass g need a 9V battery to work."
High output pickups are stronger and are more sensitive than stock pickups. They but out a stronger signal. Like the difference with or without a Tube Screamer or OD. Your bass needs a 9v to work because you must have Humbucking pickups, like me. Are they humbuckers or single-coils? My bass takes a 9v for the Active 3-Band EQ. What bass do you have? Surely you've told me before.
" 4,000 guitarists all playing ( I think) the same thing."
Look up "Black Midi" on youtube. Wild Shit! Especially the one titled "Pi".
Dickin with a few track ideas, but nothing to even call a thought yet. I may go for a more chilled out feel.
Evan, treading so soft and lightly compromising my will, I am.
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on Choon Bi by Evisma
I'm glad you liked the track. I enjoyed making it, for the most part.
Yes, everything being played is how it should be. Granted, I did not keep any first takes. The riffs don't automatically come out without screw-ups.
I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment. Have a pleasant day.
Evan
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I must admit my favorite part is the ending section. Might even make a cool intro for the song. It has a dark western feel to me, which I like a lot.
Well done Evan!
Wayne
I've never been one to mix feet with pussies. They don't seem to go together, but does partially explain why teenagers masturbate using a sock. I see the connection now, thank you.
Glad you liked the second half. Static turned me on to a stretching program and this is it's first excursion. It will make several more appearances, I'm sure.
Till next time, be good to yourself, and others.
Evan
on Choon Bi by Evisma
Staticus Nomadicus* here, though I bet you weren't able to identify me.
Trrrrrrrrraaaccckk!!!!
Busy, banging early action but tiny swelling intro should be twice as long. Too tiny.
Initial riffs are decent but nothing special. Sound like they need vocals.
0:30 guitar is better and we get quite a bit of muscular doublekickery.
0:58 classic Bass Bro chimey guitar sound. Pretty melodic, as usual, and kind of like a vocal line.
Back to some more rocking shit to take us to the first breakdown.
2:00 sounds cool with clean, gently chugging g fiddle. You're good at that. Palm muting, I guess. Nice delay on it. Tiny bit like Another Brick In The Wall's main guitar.
2:09 nice little chord and bass g comes to the fore. Sticky percussion is busy and good (What's brown and sticky? A stick).
This chilled middle section is very good and I like the hats. A bit like some dance music.
3:45 great switch of that riff into heaviness. Maybe could do with an open hat to beef things up as you keep it same as before (closed).
Yes, 4:24 is a lot We Care A Lot, which is a good thing. At Looperman, We Care A Lot about The Bass Bro.
5:02 nice start of skilful fade out before we get to hear your stretchy shit.
5:32 that's very cool and apocalyptic. I'm assuming you've done as advised and taken previously heard parts from the track and had fun trimming (layering?) them in this stretchy section.
5:49 very cool little fill. Sounds like a synth.
More nice stretchy fadeout as clean g takes over plus a little reverse flourish before a very good end fade.
There you go, my review came 2 weeks early.
Nomad, carefully chooning his bee by ear.
*A rare, exotic and beautiful species of desert shrub, simultaneously stationary and itinerant. Resistant to brush hogging but quickly destroyed by repetitive reverse cymbals.
I mis-identified you. I thought the Staticus Nomadicus was a hairy, lichen-like barnacle found on kayaks and their paddles. Scraping them off amazingly makes the sound of a reversed cymbal, then the barnacle makes a high, muffled scream as it falls blindly back into the water. Quite comical to imagine.
I will take you suggestions on this one. Longer swell on the intro, and changing to open hats later on.
"I'm assuming you've done as advised and taken previously heard parts from the track and had fun trimming (layering?) them in this stretchy section."
Yes. The stretched section is a bit from 2:00 to around 2:30. Copied a bit and dropped it's octave and blended it with the original.
Enjoyed doing the heavy guitars here. My pickups aren't high output, so I use a tube screamer, then amp and cab simulation. Quad-tracking, panning one set 100% and the other 70%. Recording four separate, yet identical tracks is a bit of a bitch. Double duty from my double tracking. I've not used the MIDI controller in a while. I need to bust it out, (or really just take the dust cover off of it, since it sits just to the right of my computer screen on a music stand.).
You implied earlier that you were "mostly" well, or something to that effect. I hope you are feeling alright and are staying healthy. I'm on a water and Guinness cleanse. Big breakfast, then all liquids, all day. Supplements and a protein shake in the evening. Kicked beef and fell in love with some different veggie burgers. Kefir is a nice thing, as well. Anyway, I'm not a dietician, I just play one on Looperman.
Evan, beggin for your fatass, dirty Euro.*
*(or pound or whatever. I don't know jack about your currency. What the fuck is a pence or a farthing? Are those things?)
on Choon Bi by Evisma
Don't like the main fade so much at 5:03 and the bass following as you drip into ambient fields. It's like I walked into Bed Bath and Beyond and just accidently found the Beyond! But really intriguing song. It's definitely an Evisma song but more dimensional and new ideas which is cool to hear.
Good Work.
Crubaby on Board!
I appreciate the kind words about my swamp. You're a hell of a fella. It's not really muddy, but dark and crickety.
Appalachian is a comparison I've never heard before. I believe I mostly play in a harmonic minor pentatonic type scale. Never got into blues or jazz. Always stuck with minor rockish vibes. Played tuba in marching band but it doesn't translate here.
Never a fan of Faith No More, so hit YouTube to hear We Care A Lot. I hear a bit with the thumb slapped bass. Not the same vibe, but I get it.
Any suggestions on what is wrong with the fading transition? Your thoughts are always appreciated. Too sudden? Ill-fitting parts?
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.
Evan
on Backstabbers Harvest by Evisma
Have a listent to some of my other vocal performances if you want to get a feel for my voice: https://soundcloud.com/juxtamusic/sets/collaborations
Look forward to working on this soon!
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Many thanks.
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I am British*, I may even be scum but I have never stolen any of Cruella De Vil's tea. No need - I have a plentiful supply on my country estate, all hand harvested by the butler. I will speak to my friends in Parliament about getting Cruella extradited to the UK so that he can be put on trial for his online lies and defamation. At the very least, his punishment is likely to be the permanent forfeit of his Korg MS2000 and I cannot rule out a custodial sentence. If so, I may visit him inside, occasionally bringing him an extra tea bag, just to rub it in.
The thing you feel is missing in your (musical) life may be your soul. Perhaps you had one and lost it, which is why I emerged empty-handed the other night. However, I have extracted many others over the years so could send you one, if you like. Bear in mind that I got the labels all mixed up recently so can't tell which is which. For instance, I took Jon Bon Jovi's a long time ago so you could end up with his. You might have to take that risk.
Advice: take more interest in your friend's wood carving. That's good stuff. If you're nice, maybe he will carve you a nice, new custom bass g. Ozark wood is nearby.
Yes, I know you worry about safe VSTs though Paul isn't, unfortunately, a VST but a standalone bit of software. Works fine for me. Could really suit you and I recommend trying it out on lap steel parts. Say you take a 1/4 bar fill and slow it down 4 times. Now it will last the whole bar so can sit behind the original part. You'll find yourself stitching together lots of bits in interesting ways. It'll add an extra layer of ambience and depth to your stuff that will be something new for you. And it'll add to your ongoing transNomadomorphism.
"I almost never play without the DAW running anymore"
Mostly the same for me. When I used to play solo resonator guitar blues live at open mic nights, I would sit in the kitchen (so, away from computer) just sliding about and footstomping as I practised jam pieces. I used to quite enjoy that simple playing in a different location from usual.
Static Soul Swiper, counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums
*Well, English actually but not a nationalist.
I'll pass on the Jove soul. It surely reeks of Aquanet and sweaty leather. I do, in fact, have a soul. I just keep it near the genitals, you know, so the wife wont find it.
I'll let Paul stretch my shit at a latter date. Been practicing alternate picking in the evenings. Never learned before. Frustrating, but that means I'm learning something new. Good stuff.
"I used to play solo resonator guitar blues live at open mic nights"
This kind of surprised me. I've never played anything publicly. When I used to jam with friends, I felt very self-conscious and really don't miss it. Smoking a fatty before and during surely didn't help matters.
"quite enjoy that simple playing in a different location from usual."
That I will try.
I hope all is well.
Evan, acting just like a nurse with all the other guys.
on Backstabbers Harvest by Evisma
"Mostly, I'm realizing that I don't have the budget to make things how I'd like, i.e. better drums, a tube amp and an electric guitar meant more for metal than my PRS, and paying for repairs on my main instrument, my dead bass guitar. I'm trying to move towards heavier metal-infused music and realized I'm very unpracticed. Just gotta grow some nuts and push through my self doubt."
There was a time years ago I could only afford radioshack shit equipment and a cheap tape deck my sister and I shared 30 bucks on buying. But I would never give that up because it taught me to make the best music possible with the shitiest sounds available. So I made some $ in the early millennium and bought some nice synths. well guess what!!! I got married and now have to think of more than one person. So I learned Linux, a free solution to OPS systems and loaded with free software like LMMS. I still use acid pro 4.0 for loops, Ardour for recording and audacity for mastering. Is it Pro-tools...no, Do I make it sound the best I can possibly make it sound...hell yeah! Do people like it...yeah some do..
you said it yourself. Honesty... that is all we as musicians can do with what we have. be honest and authentic. When you do that amazing things can happen.
Right now I am listening to Talk Talk. al 5 albums.
Album 1. New romantic, new wave crap with a few interesting songs.
Album, 2 ahh new wave and pop masterpiece 3 songs amazing 2 b sides well done. Album 3 , what's that you say, no more synths just organic instruments.. ahh well, well done lads you made 3 pop tunes out of piano and percussion and great vox and timeless songwriting plus...is that dissonance. cool ok whatever keep on. OK 4th album...what do you call this...atonal jazz. um what does your record company say about this..well at least there is one song we can say artistically brilliant. ahh so you have successfully sued and left your record company. so what is the 5th album about... umm gawd is that possible. atonal jazz again.. what is that.... you invented post rock.. well bah bye.
Mark Hollis had a vision, and be damned if that vision did not mean no record company and ending Talk Talk forever. But it was amazing as a ride, and pure balls. so don't lose the faith. do what you do and discover ehat you want when you can. that's my crazy advice from one Bro to Another.
Cru Cru
I've left the DAW alone, and will for at least another week. Getting back to basics, and working hard on alternate picking.
Thank you again for your help.
Evan