All Woman Featuring Lisa Worth - RichieWinn

17th Nov 2015 02:00 - 10 years ago
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Description : An old Lisa Stansfield track so I couldn't resist leaving an 80's style synth bass line in there! Great vocal performance by Lisa Worth who is a joy and delight to work with. I'm so lucky!! All done in Logic X with Superior Drummer for the kit. Acoustic guitars and electric rhythm my trusty Ovation Celbrity and Godin XTSA respectively.

Comments always welcome and thanks for listening.

Comments (12)

If you have time take a listen and give RichieWinn some feedback.

ShortBusMusic
ShortBusMusic 23rd Nov 2015 16:07 - 10 years ago
Top shelf material Richie, but I would expect nothing less from you. Lisa is such a tremendous singer that it requires a really talented musician like yourself to keep up with her....she sets the bar really high, and you clear that bar with your excellent musicianship and production skills. Two super talents working together to make one hell of a song. Some of those chord modulations are just sooooo good. Thanks for sharing a great song with all of us. I hope all is well.

Bear
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 24th Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Hi Barry

Always good to hear from you - I hope all is well with you too.

Thank you for your comments. You are very kind. I will make sure Lisa gets a view of your comments too - she will be knocked out. Much appreciated. Your words on my musicianship and production are very rewarding. Again, thank you so much.

Best

Richie
JasonCroft
JasonCroft 23rd Nov 2015 08:30 - 10 years ago
Greetings
Cool pop track
but I dont think if vocal line is loud a bit or its for my headphone
Kind regards
J_*
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 23rd Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Greetings to you too!

Thank you for your comments and glad you thought is was a cool pop track.

Richie
BradoSanz
BradoSanz 23rd Nov 2015 01:02 - 10 years ago
Beautifully executed. I really do dig your arrangement as well. The vocal is absolutely gorgeous and your playstyle is quite intimate as well :) Fully enjoyed this one from start to finish!

Brado

PS I sent you an email :P
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 23rd Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Hey Brado

Thank you very much for your comments - they are much appreciated. I will pass on your words to Lisa too and I agree with you about the vocal. It's gorgeous. Glad you enjoyed it.

Richie

PS I will respond to your mail soon as I can.
crucethus
crucethus 21st Nov 2015 03:49 - 10 years ago
I love Lisa Stansfield, I feel that you took her style (80's retro 70's and mixed it like this song belonged in the seventies. Cool idea Richie, Cool Listen.
Cru
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 23rd Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Hi Cru

Thank you ever so much for your kind comments. It's particularly rewarding to hear comments on the way the track was arranged and mixed. Really appreciate that very much.

Glad you enjoyed it.

Best

Richie
ImproveWithError
ImproveWithError 20th Nov 2015 19:06 - 10 years ago
Wow!!! This is an amazing track from the top to the bottom!! Production is outstanding. Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing this with us.

Kyle
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 20th Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Hi Kyle

Thank you so much for stopping by. Glad you liked the track and great to have your comments. Much appreciated.

Richie
promenade2239
promenade2239 18th Nov 2015 12:40 - 10 years ago
PS. haha I should have checked your replies before commenting! I see that you actually explained some technical details regarding to your work on this arrangement in your reply to PJB. Maybe my listening perspective is quite different as I do not really use much hardware stuff for processing the sound.
This summer I started recording classical music on real instruments with quality microphones but that's an another story. It has nothing much to do with my current looperman works which are basically made using synthesizers and DAW. I plan to post some of my classical tracks on SC and maybe here as well at some point in the future.
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 21st Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Hi again Alex

Much of what you put forward I find difficult to respond too. The notion of abstract speculations and eventual positive very slight change of the colour of single tracks/insturments/layers I just dont understand. Similarly you suggest It is not to say that any further adjustments are necessary in your arrangement at but go on to further suggest Some processing (it might be a real-time processing when recording instruments as well) may help to add some warmth or presence or change positively the overall sound of the mix. Its confusing.

Firstly my prime goal is to produce something that is sonically pleasant to listen to. Something with some dynamic range and a balanced frequency spread. I also try my best to control the subs and achieve what I consider to be a clean sound. Starting from the back the drums and drumming are provided by Superior Drummer 2. An excellent piece of software that contains studio quality samples using multi mic kits (all of which are adjustable and controllable) with session drummers providing some nice grooves and fills (again all programmable, editable and controllable). The quality of the sounds and the playing is remarkable and who in their right mind would want to mess around with it by inserting a retro pluggin somewhere? Sacrilidge!

I also try, wherever possible, to play as much of the instrumentation as I can. Normally I would play the bass line in but on this occassion I really liked the synth bass sound so it was programmed in. There is an acoustic guitar on the verses (single chords along with the piano) and an electic rhthym guitar in the choruses. The acoustic is recorded using an AKG D202 and pre amp and the electric directly into my mic pre amp. Everything else (strings, pianos etc) are patches from Logic Pro X. Linear phase EQ to control the subs and some mid range tweaking to hopefully provide some distance between each instrument. The icing on the cake is the remarkable and talented Lisa Worth who sings and performs beautifully. Recorded using an AKG C3000 through a valve pre amp with just a little compression to control the dynamics. Some EQ and reverb added post recording and thats about it.

When recording is complete I usually leave it for a couple of days before I mix. Likewise I always leave a few days between mixing and mastering (an art I am learning about slowly). I also try to listen to the finished product on several different systems to see how it sounds. My monitoring system in the studio (JBL Control 5s with an old Quad 406 driving them) I am very familiar with and I get a pretty consistent sound from it.

So there you go. Hope that was useful and if there is anything else message me directly please. Happy to fill in some more gaps if needed.

Good luck with recording classical music with real instruments and microphones. That for me is where its all at. I would be interested to hear some of it too.

Best regards.

Richie
promenade2239
promenade2239 18th Nov 2015 11:43 - 10 years ago
hello again

thank you for your kind reply! Indeed that's only my personal view and probably I am trying to project it too much in my previous comment.
I always tend to assume that there is something to investigate and to consider (and also to improve) when comes to music-making. Maybe I should change that attitude when commenting on other's stuff.

It doesn't take anything from my true appreciation of your work at all! Those are only some abstract speculations of mine after listening to your mix, nothing really serious. By mentioning the 'retro' processing I was only speculating about the possibilities of eventual positive very slight changes of the color of single tracks/instruments/layers. It is not to say that any further adjustments are necessary in your arrangement at all. Some processing (it might be a real-time processing when recording instruments as well) may help to add some warmth or presence or change positively the overall sound of the mix - that's just a concept.

I know that digital processing diminishes the original signal and basically it affects the sound in a negative way. Also I avoid using limiters as possible. They help to make music loud enough but here on Looperman I can just produce the music that I like so there is noo need for me to adjust it to any specific contemporary radio volume standards at all. I am only trying to get as much quality sound from the very beginning as I can and honestly I do not care about mastering to the modern level that much so far. Also I do not make music in any particular style at the moment (which is confusing to others I guess).

I really liked your vision and I truly appreciate sound-image of your arrangement. Sorry if I was a bit unclear and difficult.

Best to you, Alex
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 21st Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Hi Alex

Yes a bit unclear and difficult just about sums it up!!! LOL. See my response above.

Richie
promenade2239
promenade2239 18th Nov 2015 07:43 - 10 years ago
hello Richie!

This is one great song. I entirely agree with others - it could be easily played on the radio. I have a CD compilation with 70's/80's soul/discofunk titled '100% Pure Groove' and your production is so smooth and stylish regarding to this. The arrangement is very gentle. I am really enjoying keys, soft strings and funky bassline a lot.

I think you can always consider processing each instrumental track using some retro plugins for example, or maybe adding a 80's type of re-verb on drums even (I am using this simple software http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=1872 which can make drums sound so very 80's). Also the older music is usually quieter. Listening closely on headphones yesterday I noticed a little overpower on the vox track (especially around 2:16, 2:31 and similar places) - maybe it is just a bit too hot mixed. The guitar around 2:50 may profit from adding a bright reverb to correspond stylistically with vox better. I say this because I had impression that it is placed somewhere much closer in the mix but I really liked your playing. It is a slow ballad so maybe a little bit of sax would be cool at places as well.
Those are just few ideas of mine after listening closely to your track. I am not a professional producer haha. I hope it is relevant somehow anyway.

I am always impressed by your instrumental arranging work. Thank you for sharing with us such a nice song.
Alex
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 18th Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Hi Alex

Nice to have such a detailed and diagnositic appraisal of my work. Thank you. I especially appreciate your comments regarding the the gengle arrangement and smooth and stylish production. Very rewarding indeed.

As for retro pluggins I'm afraid I can't agree at all with your view. For me any processing of of tracks has to add value to the original sound and as I wasn't after a totally 80's style the natural sound of the drumkit, albeit a more modern sounding kit, worked for me.

Again, comparing my track with "older music" isn't relevant particlarly as I mix for speakers and high quality sound systems rather than headphones.

I'm not sure what "overpower" is but perhaps my quest to include as much dynamic range as I can in my work may have some bearing. Not sure about the addition of reverb to correspond stylisitacally to the vocals. It's not how I work at all. Similarly the additon of sax is a purely personal view which was never on my agenda.

Maybe sometimes it's more difficult to read into a track what the producer had in mind and easier to interpret the song in one's own way. I am still learning and I'm grateful for your thoughts.

Best

Richie
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 18th Nov 2015 02:43 - 10 years ago
I think its most all been said in the comments ahead of me Richie...I really wish the hell I could find music like this in the commercial (non indie) world...its is just so damn good...if I were to go down the list of performance and production check offs they would all be ticked off with top scores...guess all I have to do is join the rest of your listeners in a standing ovation....I always expect the best here at your palace and it always seems to be even better than could be expected...superb.....Ed
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 18th Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Hi Ed

Always great to have you view of my work. It's always valued and I appreciate it. I'm knocked out with your comments and I will pass on your kind words to Lisa too. Thanks again.

Best

Richie
TheBedlamKids
TheBedlamKids 17th Nov 2015 23:40 - 10 years ago
Wow Richie, this is incredible dear friend. Like PJB said, great production and musicianship as always. Love the vocals, it really complements the song very well. I envy you, your mix is top notch...lol. Seriously, great job man. 10/10

TBK
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 18th Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Hello TBK

Thank you so much for stopping by and posting comments. Much appreciated. Glad you enjoyed the track and it's reall very rewarding to have such feedback. Many thanks.

Best

Ricie
Planetjazzbass
Planetjazzbass 17th Nov 2015 21:29 - 10 years ago
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Danke
Danke 17th Nov 2015 20:46 - 10 years ago
Richie!

Standing ovation!!!

Incredible track...this is a winner...can't say more...

Fav, dl of course, handshake, Danke
RichieWinn
RichieWinn replied 17th Nov 2015 - 10 years ago
Hey Danke

Many thanks for your comments. Always a pleasure to have you stop by and listen. Glad you enjoyed it. So rewarding for all the work that went into the track. Much appreciated.

Best

Richie

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