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Listen To What Is Real Never Fades Chill Out Song By Maffin159 At Looperman.com

5th Mar 2014 17:19 - 11 years ago
Description : New mix. Thanks for support. Maff.

Comments (18)

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Mykael
Mykael 31st Mar 2014 12:23 - 11 years ago
Awesome track. I love your vocals as well as the ethereal backing vocals. I am a sucker for strings, so when they came in strong, I was in heaven! Great job!

Love & Light,

Mykael
crucethus
crucethus 29th Mar 2014 03:01 - 11 years ago
Your vocal sounds just a tad bit like Donavan. This song is great. just a bit of mastering issues that I hear. I feel the bass and the vocals are pushing to hard in the mix. there is this weird distortion (sibilance) on the vocals. I think with a softening on the vocals will make this sound so much better. Panning is spot on!. Love the guitar work at the end of the fade out. And a little like the male voice on this diddy by Bran Van 3000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id6pz6uqKt0&html5=1
Steve
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 29th Mar 2014 - 11 years ago
yes I tend to agree listening back to this latest one. I think there is a limit both to my vocal ability (!) and the SM58 which is not exactly a studio quality mic, and I find it a juggling act to flatten the bass and vocals as you say, without crushing the dynamics on the beats.

I think I might try and bus the bass and vocals and then put bespoke compressors on those buses and leave the master free of effects...I'll see if that works, but I agree and I'll try to do that.

Cheers for feedback - very useful!

Maff
johnnyproducing
johnnyproducing 26th Mar 2014 14:15 - 11 years ago
This track sounds very nice, your vocals at first reminded me a bit of pink Floyd (I know you can easily hear the different but the feeling is similar), Further the track itself sounded really nice and I can always enjoy chill out as a genre. I can see from the comment that you went through a long process to create this and took a lot of advice in finishing this, I respect that ;)

Thanks for sharing this with us
and hope to hear more like this
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 28th Mar 2014 - 11 years ago
hey thanks - was so great getting all the feedback and support to make it better. Thanks for commenting and listening. Maff.
MOONLYTE
MOONLYTE 26th Mar 2014 09:24 - 11 years ago
I know you mentioned on one of my songs that you layered the vocals 6 times, and you thought you lost some sentiment in it, but i personally love the vocals in this song.

Also the strings that come in halfway thruogh are an a amazing touch and makes a good song even better.
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 28th Mar 2014 - 11 years ago
Thanks. Fixed the strings now (right octave!) and thanks for dropping by and commenting. Means a lot. Cheers.
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 25th Mar 2014 00:12 - 11 years ago
So, comment number 6 from me (across all versions) - the most I've commented on any Looperman track. What else can I find to say?

One idea is doing an instrumental remix with a heavier, fatter beat and perhaps no or less guitar. Bring some of the good music out more and go for a different structure. Might well get away with no beat for some parts of that remix (ie pure chillout).

1:40 effective drum fill.

Aha 2:38 some bowed strings that I like. That's new.

So, it's got a good, middle instrumental break. The one that myself and MrWolf14 were calling for.

2:57 drums with heavier hat also new.

Good winding down ending moves very nicely though I'm not quite sure about final, effected acoustic guitar flourish. Think it might be a phaser on that. Sounds slightly too synthetic. Perhaps just have less of the effect.

There are still some vocal fizzing sibilance problems, right from the first line. And it's a bit too loud in general.

Otherwise, I think I've already given this a fair bit of detailed praise, even if you may have lost those comments.

Congratulations though I'd prefer the vocal problems to be fixed.
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 28th Mar 2014 - 11 years ago
Hey - thanks for continued support. Have fixed most of it now and need to leave it alone for a bit I think, but I never did anything with such co-lab from LMers before so really appreciate advice as always.

Cheers for now...
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking 24th Mar 2014 18:16 - 11 years ago
Yes!
Sounding very good, Maff.
Really nice strings and guitar and all the extra flavours in the soundscape, and your vocal is working brilliantly.

It's itching in a good way in my ears when listening on headphones, that's a very good sign of that all the levels and mastering are working.
(I think it has something to do with the sound frequensis causing the itching when they are just right -
and this is a very scientific approach, mind you... :D )
kazoth
kazoth 13th Mar 2014 11:43 - 11 years ago
This song could be some movie soundtrack.. another easy-listening for cloudy days. Nice job :)
Modnex
Modnex 11th Mar 2014 18:07 - 11 years ago
Cool song you managed to create here, like the feel of the vocals and the guitar part. Good work!
theHumps
theHumps 10th Mar 2014 13:34 - 11 years ago
I like the vibe to this, kinda chilled out. Nice even mix and pleasant sounds combine to create a wonderful track. I like the doubling of the vocals. Thought the drums could use some punch in places but i liked the song. Cool singing, fits the feel of the song very well. Nice job!

Wayne
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking 8th Mar 2014 14:34 - 11 years ago
This IS a really good song.
And your voice is doing that special thing with me, you know when you hear somebody singing and you get hooked and want to hear more and know stuff about them - that thing.
You hit the right nerve.
(Don't worry - I'm too old to start stalking artists!!! Just analyzing my reactions in a Freudian manner to get to the hit potential.)

Have you submitted this to the Loop Radio yet or something? Get this tune out there!
/SJ =)
Orlando51
Orlando51 7th Mar 2014 14:06 - 11 years ago
More than splendid...great chill!

Compliments...Orlando
DesignedImpression
DesignedImpression 7th Mar 2014 10:32 - 11 years ago
Agree with others wrote and would like to add at 0:57 to 1:08 had my attention the most. The instruments and vocals connect and kept me listening a few times. Dig the messages from this music good sounds thanks.
ronabo
ronabo 7th Mar 2014 00:46 - 11 years ago
I like song too. I would have like to hear some more drums but that is me. Great job!!!
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking 6th Mar 2014 23:49 - 11 years ago
Wow, is this you singing Maff?
I'm listening over and over again and enjoying what I hear!
The instrumental - brilliant of course.
And the vocal really gives this a dreamy, melancholic atmosphere.
I would love to hear more of your voice from 2:30 to 2:50, stop hiding behind the music!
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 6th Mar 2014 07:22 - 11 years ago
So, my fifth comment on this track, in its different versions.

Must say I agree with this: "A great song that reflects the coolness of Autumn".

I still wish the bass was heard for longer before the guitar came in in the intro. But the beat also seems better and more pronounced in that intro.

You took my advice (I guess) and removed that first guitar fill in the chorus (the one after 'long away away').

One sight problem in this track is that there are no drum fills. They'd give it some added energy. Not much cymbal work either. Give it a big fill as you head into the middle, instrumental section.

Also, as it's the third chorus, I think you have an opportunity to do something different eg change the drum kit, make the drums a lot sparser and so on. It perhaps needs to be something a bit different as we're hearing it for the third time.

After it, 3:25 on, it's a pretty good, dreamy, gradual fade out though you must know that guitar still cuts off too abruptly right at the end.

Who knows, I might even leave a sixth review...
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 6th Mar 2014 - 11 years ago
"You took my advice (I guess)"....

...I *always* take your advice - you give the fullest reviews which are the most useful!

You're right about the fills, I might use that one you like near the beginning (or a variation) as I don't want to go for a big rock / tom fill which might ruin the mood.

Pop shield was £20 well spent too - so thanks for the tip!

Hmm...'different drums'...interesting. I stuck a tambourine on the choruses (bit 70's but does the trick) but I like your idea of actually taking something away ("sparser") and letting the instrument parts and harmonies carry the groove. Maybe just a rim and hi hat or something so we start to ease off towards the end so the slow down is less abrupt.

Still tinkering...but thanks as always.

Can't wait for the 6th review :)

Cheers
Billydragon1
Billydragon1 6th Mar 2014 05:35 - 11 years ago
A great song that reflects the coolness of Autumn that I am starting to feel around this way (chilling out). The lyrics are deep too - "What is real never fades" , could not have said it better.
All the best - Billy
deciBel
deciBel 5th Mar 2014 23:28 - 11 years ago
as Ed has truelY mentioned , there're many reasons which cnvinces me for fav mark regarding this .most notable of them is singer's voice outstanding character & selected notes for melody vocal ,also sane & logical balance of instrumental version too .all the best___Behnam
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 5th Mar 2014 22:41 - 11 years ago
I recall listening to the first version Maff...dont recall if I faved it but I sure am going to fav this one...for a whole lot of reasons...starting with the depth of lyrics...your really pleasant vocal delivery (I`m reminded again of Brian Ferry)...accompaniment that is wrapped around the vocal..really well done and not intrusive on the vocal...The nice production values and those little extra vocal bits that add space & variety....So, I guess that in my mind makes the whole thing just a really good song...Just an excellent job Maff...Bravo.....Ed
Maffin159
Maffin159 replied 5th Mar 2014 - 11 years ago
Thanks so much Ed - means a lot.

Not quite happy with the second verse and the master is still a bit 'harsh' somehow, so I want to try and smooth it off a bit, without flattening the dynamics by over compressing...such an art... esp when it comes out as an 8MB MP3...but your kind words are wonderful encouragement!

It's basically there I think, just need to give it a rest for day or two and come back to it fresh.

Thank you. So appreciate your comments!

Maff

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