Intricacies Of The Mind - EphyMusic

13th Aug 2015 06:43 - 11 years ago
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Description : Just had a bout of inspiration. I mastered it myself, I'm not sure how that turned out. Let me know!

For all of you that don't know, if you post a comment, you can download this track for free.

This has been updated. Please see my forum post!

I can't link it! But you can find it!

Comments (18)

If you have time take a listen and give EphyMusic some feedback.

5nak
5nak 7th Feb 2017 07:22 - 9 years ago
This is very good man.
DJtriplec1
DJtriplec1 15th Oct 2015 01:12 - 10 years ago
Tbh
THIS IS REALLY GOOD
LIKE
REALLY FKN GOOD
REALLY CHILL AND DOPE
arichards
arichards 24th Sep 2015 20:18 - 10 years ago
nice!
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 24th Sep 2015 - 10 years ago
Thanks!
TRE24
TRE24 22nd Aug 2015 06:37 - 11 years ago
Nice job man. I was feeling this track.
Very chilled.
Love the synth and its arranged very well.
Really nice track.

TRE24-
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 24th Sep 2015 - 10 years ago
Can't believe I didn't see this comment before! Thank you for the compliments!
promenade2239
promenade2239 21st Aug 2015 21:05 - 11 years ago
hi

Firstly I am not very knowledgeable in dubstep matters too much but overall this sounds much closer to smooth chillout or a kind of slow-step music if that makes sense.
Someone said below that drums are 'too weak'... I would rather say that there is a lack of diversity and complexity of those energetic drum patterns typical of the genre.

I enjoyed listening to this one! Good luck with your music! Keep experimenting
A.
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 21st Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
Well, I appreciate the feedback!
skwishfish
skwishfish 21st Aug 2015 19:04 - 11 years ago
Hey there man! Absolutely wonderful track. Reminds me of Blackmill in many MANY aspects.

I honestly believe this is mastered pretty well. Especially for a beginner. It does focus on the midranges very heavily, but that's not always a bad thing. I've heard plenty of mixes that focused too hard on the low frequencies and ended up losing all of the touchiness of the highs and mids. This seems like it's a very good balance to me.

Other than that, I would just boost the gain a little in the master. This being because, although you did a splendid job mastering, it is still pretty quiet. The goal of mastering is not only to adjust the frequency bands but to make your mix as loud as possible without clipping as well.

Please let me know how you created the synth that starts at 1:22. I've been trying to figure it out for ages!

Fantastic job mate! Can't wait to hear your remix!

Best,
Skwish Fish
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 21st Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
Well, let's see here. I'm not sure if you use FL but there is a plugin (an amazing one) called "Sytrus." I do a lot of repurposing and general tweaking with some of the presets.

If you can believe it, it's the same synth as the wobble that is present from beginning to end.

The preset I messed with was just simply called "Grand Piano," in Sytrus. I did a little bit of tweaking in OP 1, pulled the cut-off down to nearly 0, and did some pitch bending.

So far as the mastering and mixing, I've actually started to realize... I don't like this version. I'm going to go ahead and reupload the old one, I liked that one more.

Lol, we'll see about that remix, really depends on how my mind sets it up beforehand.

This part of the comment is for everyone, please, visit my soundcloud channel for more music of mine. I recently made a song but I couldn't get it to go on looperman what with the current filesize limit. If I brought it down to below 10Megs, I'm bringing the quality down to nearly nothing. It's a long song.

Please! Check it out! https://soundcloud.com/eff_el_official
Spivkurl
Spivkurl 21st Aug 2015 18:06 - 11 years ago
I finally got a moment to listen to the update you've done here. While I still enjoy this style of the composition and sounds that you've used, I have to be honest - I think I like the mastering of the earlier version more. I find this one is very heavily focused on the mid range. It is definitely a matter of personal preference, but I don't usually enjoy that in electronic genres, and even in most rock music. This may be part of the "boxiness" which Mahloo spoke of. In general, the impression I got was this being a bit more lifeless and narrow. Please don't take these as insults at all... you have asked for feedback, and I like to be honest with feedback, especially regarding mixing and mastering. With sounds, especially synth sounds which are strong in the whole spectrum, I tend to do a wider mid range scoop. This would more often be in the mixing stage though. Since I do it wide, I will focus on areas from say 300Hz to 650Hz, depending on the source material. Be sure to use your ears with this, and not so much other senses. You can start with a deep cut to sweep the frequency setting, but it will sound more natural if you do a more shallow cut after finding a good sounding range. One of the reasons I do this, is that these frequencies are very audible to most humans, they are present in most types of sounds in music, and the overall mix will sound muddy if all channels are left untouched in this range. An added benefit is that it will often allow raising of the volume of the channel or overall mix, with a result that lower and higher frequencies are more present without processing them a lot. Hope that makes sense. Keep working and you will get the results you want!
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 21st Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
I have to agree... I'm really not liking this version. I'm going to revert.
Klandestyne
Klandestyne 20th Aug 2015 12:23 - 11 years ago
hey effel
just putting my two pennies worth in
think tht the drums hit the mark and do what they are supposed to do , maybe electronica is a better tagg for this track but im with silverman the genres get lost on me u got good and bad dance music , this is firmly in the good camp imo
like the synths and the space left for all the elements to get there chance to speak
good tune
klandestyne
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 20th Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
Thanks, I appreciate that!
silverman
silverman 20th Aug 2015 10:50 - 11 years ago
Wow that's one deep freaky sound!
I have no idea about these genres.
Just a great sounding tune to me.
Very nice journey this.
Had to press that little fave heart.
Love the deep deep mysterious hole this drops me down.
What's this about free?
Does that mean you're stuff is sometimes not free?
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 20th Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
Well, a musician has to eat, haha! I have an older EP for sale, and I plan on releasing another one. I'm going to do some more mastering/mixing work on those tracks, but otherwise I am waiting for album art.

But, in all seriousness, I need to make some cash, here, soon. My PC's power supply is going out. And those mofo's are expensive.

Regardless, thanks for the lovely comment!
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 20th Aug 2015 09:58 - 11 years ago
Hi.

I generally dislike most dubstep but I think this is really good. I actually read all the comments before pressing play so was expecting to hear some really weak ass drums.

However, I'm pleasantly surprised to find that they're pretty damn good. I like those scratchy hats (they're not muffled), which is quite a different sort of sound, and also don't see a problem with the kick.

I guess everything can be improved (and I spend a lot of time on doing that in great detail in my own tracks) but I don't see a problem in general with your drums - they're doing a good job.

1:24 that lead and its pitch bend/portamento (?) is very cool. Nice melody.

I don't like to criticise other reviewers but I don't understand Spudsy's response to your reply to him, which seemed quite reasonable and not all "protective of your end result".

Therefore, the following seems quite unnecessary and perhaps a little unpleasant: "However you look at it opinions, unfortunately rarely trump facts. I wouldn't have replied again but you were so protective of your end result what was the point in asking for people's input?"

Good work...
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 20th Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
Thank you, Static! It was a little weak before, I recently updated it after adding some weight to it all.

The hats at the beginning were not actually hats at all! Technically. They were a heavily effected drum loop.

Yes, that was pitch bent, and thank you!

I appreciate your comment!
Mahloo13
Mahloo13 17th Aug 2015 21:13 - 11 years ago
I like the vibe you've got going on and the sureal slightly ambiental sound is great. Really layed back. Great use of filters and effects for the transitions, that is hard to do and get it right but you've done it really well.

As far as mastering goes I must admit you need to do a bit of mix work first. Although things could be fixed with mastering, it would be a bit limited in terms of fixes that could be done.

The first thing I noticed was a bit of harshness in the upper mids and some boxiness overall, which I tend to atribute to a not so great monitoring environment.

The kick is a pretty good kick but it's boxy and sounds muddy, you could try removing a bit of 180-250hz and if that makes it sound to thin you could go a bit higher around 300hz or so. These are just some general frequencies that tend to cause problems. You could also slightly sidechain compress the bass to better blend it with the kick.

The snare/clap sound is pretty good and works as is to keep that chill vibe. Personally I would've boosted some 180hz to give it a bit more weight but that might be a matter of taste.

The hihats are really muffled and while I get that you are going for a darker sound they really muffle the track a lot and sound way to dark when in contrast with the effects which are nice and silky.

Overall it ain't to bad but it ain't perfect either as some elements are way to dark while others are way to shinny and silky.

As for mastering you could always try mid-side eq to widen the track and work separatelly on the mid and side sections. On the sides you could high pass a lot and that will really enable you to push it in terms of loudness, it ain't really a necesity but it would give you that option if so you wish.

Lately clippers are used a lot in mastering along with multiband compression and wideband compression.

You could also try something like Sonnox transient designer on the master, it could give you the edge you are looking for.

Anyways just my thoughts man. I like the song and the arrangement and I'm glad you didn't go in the general direction of dubstep/chillstep.

Cheers!
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 18th Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
This was very informative and a lot more useful than what someone else was telling me! Thank you!
royalcrowng
royalcrowng 17th Aug 2015 07:20 - 11 years ago
Very nice track !!
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 17th Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
Thanks!
BradoSanz
BradoSanz 17th Aug 2015 00:43 - 11 years ago
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Spudsy
Spudsy 16th Aug 2015 14:07 - 11 years ago
https://youtu.be/uPuaIJrhdss

Well, you did ask for critique.

The drums are too weak. Drums and/or bass underpin most or all electronic music.

This Caspa track even though it's mellow still has drums that hit, have space and do there job.

However you look at it opinions, unfortunately rarely trump facts.

I wouldn't have replied again but you were so protective of your end result what was the point in asking for people's input?
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 16th Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
Yikes, man, I just merely stated why my drums sounded that way. Never said I wouldn't take your advice.
blunierty
blunierty 16th Aug 2015 00:14 - 11 years ago
Actually I think this track is great, Spudsy nice comment
Spudsy
Spudsy 15th Aug 2015 20:47 - 11 years ago
Hey dude,

First thing that strikes me is the track is great but needs some work before the mastering process had begun.

The sounds are nice and they all work well together and all the elements are there and could come together to make the track.

Your snare sound is good but the kick is a little weak, dub step kick tends to hit quite hard and have a 'pffft' style tail to it (check out redneks stuff on youtube)

The drums as a whole could use multiband compression and exciting. Think of it as bringing out certain sound elements in the drums and then bringing them into focus with the multiband exciter.

once you have done that some room reverb on the drums and on the track as a whole followed will gel the track together.

New york style compression could work well on the drums group and the bass group to give them some harmonics to fill the frequency spectrum a bit.

Thanks for sharing dude, tight track.
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 16th Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
Well, I did choose the kick for a reason, and that's because I wanted the kick to be punchy for this track. I didn't want a kick with a low end clashing with the sub frequencies of the bass. Overall, I wanted the drums to be simple, not taking away from the chill feel of the track. But I will check the multiband stuff you mentioned, out. Thanks!
Spivkurl
Spivkurl 14th Aug 2015 15:36 - 11 years ago
Hey, this is cool and sounds good! I'm not too into dubstep any more, but this has a unique quality, in that it is not the generic pop dance oriented stuff. I like the unusual bass sounds you used as well. As far as the mastering goes, I can't complain at all, especially considering it was done with stock FL plugins. I think the overall volume is good, as I have room to turn it up if I want, but it's not so loud that I have to turn my speakers almost all the way down. You know... balance. I think for a simple EQ/limiter master such as this, a big improvement would be to procure and use a linear phase sort of EQ as opposed to PEQ2. There has been much talk on the image line forum about the possibility of PEQ3 being developed. Hopefully it will be linear phase like some more advanced plugins out there. An added bonus would be mid/side options, but I'm not holding my breath on either of these. But sorry to ramble... I like your song and how you made it sound.
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 14th Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
Well thanks, Spiv! I mainly used Parametric EQ 2 so I could get rid of pesky sounds that were only around in one area of the spectrum. Sounds I liked, but if I turned them down, they'd lose their quality or become nearly inaudible, so I used it to just dip down that specific area, keep it from resonating so loudly. The bass and the kick were especially hard for me to manage. I learned that it is better to sacrifice kick volume for bass volume when you're looking for a heavy bass sound, and I ended up using some pretty punchy kicks, anyhow.

As for the Basses, There was the basic sub in there, there was a gnarled bass sound that was FM'd to hell, and then that there wobble was just a re-purposed Grand Piano preset in Sytrus. I find a lot of cool uses for presets, I find.

Anyhow, thanks again, Spiv.
priomghosh007
priomghosh007 13th Aug 2015 14:57 - 11 years ago
niice track
EphyMusic
EphyMusic replied 13th Aug 2015 - 11 years ago
Thanks!

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