This is good (and I'm a massive STP and AIC fan) but there are some big problems with the drums. They're really not powerful enough and that snare has all the reverb but the hi hat none/almost none. So they sound so disconnected, as though they're not quite playing together. How did you do these drums? If you could make them much better, the track would really have a lot more power. Also, I think the main guitar riff having no reverb also makes that reverby snare stand out more as a problem. I hope you can get a better sound as it's a decent song.
Hey man glad you liked it for the most part. Ill keep it in mind fir the next go round. This track has been done for over a year so I think its staying how it is lol.
Simple collection of sounds that work well and it flows really nicely. 'Calm' is also a really good description. I'd also agree with others that it's not an 'amateur' production. I don't know if your intention with this is to get people to dance. If it's not I'd suggest varying the drums a bit more, perhaps making them jazzier at times (eg swing) or perhaps have little touches of drum 'n' bass. I think that wouldn't detract from its calm nature and could give it a more interesting flavour. Also, if you could add some other less predictable sounds in the chillout progressive trance genre, that would also make it stand out and have a more disinct identity. These aren't complaints - just suggestions for how you could make it better and more interesting. To see the kind of thing I'm talking about, check out the first Shpongle album and tracks such as Around The World In A Tea Daze or Once Upon The Sea Of Blissful Awareness.
Get some quality acoustic drums to make it more metal or rock. Loops would work but much better would be some hypersampled drum software in which you prgram all the intricate fills and cymbal crashes etc. Lots of this sort of software (maybe all) comes with excellent MIDI files from professional drummers so I would suggest that as one of the best ways to achieve what I think you want. Obviously some guitar would make it more rock/metal. Good luck.
The guitar playing is really good. Lots of good riffs and tight timing. But as a piece of music its basically a bit boring without any variety in the drums or bass or other sounds or vocals. I know nothing about you or your situation but it's very clear that you need to add some other elements to complement your good metal guitar playing. Vocals are an obvious thing but if you can't find a vocalist, instrumental can be just fine (that's what I do as I have no regular vocalists). For a start, you really need to move away from just drum loops to some hypersampled drum software such as Superior Drummer of BFD. I've made this suggestion when commenting on a previous track of yours. You particularly need this for metal as metal drums are typically filled with all sorts of fills and variation. Please do this as playing over the same loop really isn't good enough though it's just fine for practising. Good luck to you.
Cool chilled out synths. Very melodic and slightly dark (but in a good way). This isn't just banging club music - much more intelligant annd emotional than that. Also good soundtrack music.
Those bells are cool and also slightly disturbing. This is some very far out and creative stuff - certainly cinematic. I'm actually not sure the guitar soloing fits, partly because the tone doesn't fit the other sounds. And I'm a guitarist myself. Very dense, tribal groove transition around 2:10 that I wasn't expecting. But then the return on 3:10 to the previous stuff I find it a bit strange. It feels like that 1 minute of tribal stuff was too short and probably needed to be at least twice as long. Instead, I guess you way of having more of it was to go back to it at the end. More in that middle section would probably make it better.
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& regardinG your idea abouT membranophonic parT I'm agree with U ...buT there was an apathetic sensation in me about iT ( also about that 1seconds & 0.14 )which made me quarter to my beloved phrase '' never mind '' instead of trying to make it longer .
else & beside my colleague , density of my guitar was according to sigma of lines behind which made the same atmosphere in intro parT & functionallY follows density of sound waves = this formul if U may know : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_energy_density
& this time I'm not agree cause according to my job , I live with numbers even as sex parthner .
thnx aloT for your carefully attention Mr guitarist , and would be worthy of greatest respecT if let's use scientific phrases instead of '' fit '' which I don'T thnk if it's a Scientific word in music theorY which is build by numbers .
dear Mr.guitarist, commenting withouT respect and talking as a master talks with his studenT in comment , needs more calculation I think . as a guitarist who has been played by his guitars more than 21 years ,I've underestood our guitars work , cause our number ( human's numbers and calculations )has worked to can build iT.appology+thnX=respectfully.___Behnam
I wouldn't listen to it at home but it could be very effective film music. It's busy but also relaxed and it's quite sparse so lots of room for other sound FX or dialogue to go over the top.
Pretty decent work though straihgt up party music isn't my main musical interest. It gets much better approaching 2 mins as that psychedelic arpeggiated synth comes in. Some good squelch here but my main complaint is the 'I'll give you pain' vocal line is just too low. It sounds a bit ridiculous to me. Just try pitching it up a bit ( a few tones?) and I think it'll sound better.
First of all Sorry for the late reply, no excuses i've just been a bit crap about checking my stats recently.
I appreciate that you took the time to listen and leave your thoughts (especially since this isn't really up your street)
Alas, the tune is dead and buried on my old lap top so if i wanted to alter anything i'd have to rewrite the track from scratch (Which i really can't be bothered to do as it aint exactly ever gonna be a number one)
Thanks for stopping by.
FR
"static, where have you been all my music creating career? this is exactly what I was looking for as far as feedback!" Yes, know what you mean. Comments such as the one I left are the kinds of things I look for rather than just "Yeah, loved it - funky stuff, man"
This is because I am always looking to improve and do so all the time. I'm also quite often in denial about little bits of tracks that don't work and so sometimes need to have them pointed out to me. I think that sort of thing is really what sites such as Looperman should be all about rather than just telling people that their stuff is great. I also like to hear evaluation of what I do because, while I think it's good, I'm obviously just a little biased and cannot have the objectivity that I would like to have. I also don't play in a band and have almost no regular music friends so it's a very isolated musical existence that I have.
Yes, it's the arp patch that I would change. Just spend a while choosing a different patch as I know it can be better. Great programming and notes and groove will still probably sound not great on a crap patch.
Yes, know what you mean about fudging the flow. Again, it doesn't have to have a more repeitive vocal hook - I just think it would make it more accessible with it but it's a different mood without. Yes, glad you agree about the end section. I wasn't afraid to be bold in saying that it has to go because I thought you might agree. It so obviously stands out as being unnecessary but can see why you would leave it in for mixing in to next track live.
Sure, PM me if you want though I'm not sure how to see PMs (will check now). Yes, check out my stuff though I have much higher quality tracks on other sites that allow hosting of longer stuff (mine are typically between 12 and 18 mins though I do have shorter ones on here. Many of the tracks I have on this site are out of date and have been surpassed by better versions. So, the ones I would recommend listening to are: Lord Of Misrule, Circular Motion, Way Beyond Wrong, Knee Deep In The Cosmic Overwhelm, Tribal Warfare and Untitled Ethereal Daisy Jazz Funk though the others are also pretty decent. Glad that you appreciated my words.
This is pretty decent, actually. I find the vocals a little annoying but they'd be pretty good in a live, party situation so are more suited to that than me just sitting in my living room checking this out. Guitar and drums fit well together. Maybe have a think about EQing the guitars a bit - perhaps do it at certain points as an effect as it can be interesting. I've been doing it quite a bit recently (just automate the channel EQ on each part) and it can make a reeal difference in the mix. I particularly like the guitar in the final section as well as the slow down ending - probably a fun way to end things at a party.
I like what the intro arpeggiator is playing but I don't like your choice of synth sound. Excuse the pun, but I think you can do better. Just spend a while choosing a different synth patch. It can be a really boring thing to do but I think you need to. I was really surprised on 1 min when the main song came in. Track really took off. I think vocally it's a decent song, actually, and pretty well sung. Some effective FX on those vocals from time to time (especially the call and response delay bits) I can imagine this being quite a popular song. Would probably be more popular if it had a more distinctive vocal hook that repeated, though the lack of it is not necessarily a criticism. The main thing I really do not understand is that incessant bass drum ending. You've got to get rid of that as it serves no purpose. Also, I don't think that's a great bass drum sound so you either need to replace it with a better one or process the one you've got to improve it. Hope these suggestions help as I'm sure you can do better and hope you will make it happen. Let me know when you post a better version.
static, where have you been all my music creating career? this is exactly what I was looking for as far as feedback!
thank you so much!
my questions about your comments;
which patch are you thinking needs changing?
the arp'd patch?
as far as a vocal hook, artisticially i was going for more of the unorganized sadness of the topic of the song but I'll look at it with different eyes and see if I can arrange one without fudging the flow.
Lastly your completely correct that ending section has to go, it was my mistake for I was being short sighted and only thinking of my next gig and how this track was going to be mixed in...when I should have left it alone and do that arrangement for my live set and not what I posted here.
really thsnks... I'm gonna hit you up via personal message if you dont mind...maybe i can do the same kinda thing for you?
Really like the guitars. Very different parts and good sounds on both. Drums could be better but guess they do the job and ,as said below, don't distract from the words. Decent, simple grooves. This is kind of psychedelic, reflective guitar chillout, if I had to put it in a genre. Maybe there isn't enough variation over the 5 minutes and it never really builds to anything but that's OK as not everything has to.
hey thanks, i really appreciate your review of the song,it was not planned or something. my tracks nearly always just happen. The guitars were done before i heard the acapella...
Yeah, this is pretty intelligent stuff, actually. Much more so than lots of dance music. Bit of a Celtic feel coming in from that lead part around 1:15. And then from another keyboard part 40 seconds later. Nice pitch bend around 2 mins from a lower synth part and good drum dropout so you can hear it better. Maybe too much repetition of that vocal phrase but I'm sure people wouldn't mind played out live at a club. Guess it glues it all together a bit. This could be a really popular summer outdoor or indoor or nodoor good times raving track. It doesn't change a lot but doesn't get boring over 5 mins so well paced.
As regards these words: "I've got a couple of guitars, and this one is a 7 string Ibanez Prestige guitar tuned to ADGCFAD, the chorus riff is in A, so yeah, it sounds low", I was going to ask if it was a 7-string, I just didn't get round to writing it. I love heavy low end so maybe I should get a 7-string too. But maybe another guitar just for serious low end is a bit of an extravagance (I already have a few and am actually mostly a fingerstyle slide resonator player). Do you find it offers you much more aside from heavy, distorted low end riffs? And is there anyone using one who's not using it to make metal?
I've got another 6 string low tuned guitar which is in A# F A# D# G C, that also works on low riffs (just get thicker strings and adjust the action) but I find that the larger scale of the 7 string gives those nice long vibrations, you can almost feel the power of the riff with your palm.
I wouldn't say that it opens a whole new world of possibilities, it all depends on your playing style and genre. But yeah.. if you want a deep low end while preserving the ability to play high pitched screetching solos - definetely have a look at the 7 or 8 string guitars
Yes, good work. Interesting mix of elements done in a creative and melodic way. It does sound like you've left lots of space for a singer and I'm sure there are lots who could make a really good song out of it. If you don't ever get one, I'd suggest going back in and changing a few things (maybe adding more)so that it doesn't still sound like space has been left for a singer. I love the real low end tone. I play in dropped D but don't get that sort of sound. Is it dropped C, perhaps? I do a very electic mix of genres but have lots of heavyish stuff. Try this hiphop/jazz/d'b'/saxophone metal track https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/145971 or this heavy slide guitar one http://www2.mixposure.com/Static_Nomad/song_focus_24417.php
Thanks, yes, you are right, I've left a lot of space for a singer to have room to breathe. This is not a kind of song I would write as an instrumental, so there will be a singer sooner or later.
I've got a couple of guitars, and this one is a 7 string Ibanez Prestige guitar tuned to ADGCFAD, the chorus riff is in A, so yeah, it sounds low :)
Yes, good work. Some of the sounds are a little light and cheesy for me but the playing is good and tight and simple. I don't really think of it as jazz, probably due to the drum loop and lack of swing. The backing little riffs (behind the main keyboard chords) pretty much make it come alive and must have been fun to play. Maybe they're a little repetitive. Perhaps you could try putting them through some fairly radical FX to make them move about a bit more (eg some some of glitch/cut-up effect or radical delay) or perhaps just change the notes or timing as they sound copied and pasted rather than replayed. Please tell me if I'm guessing wrong as it's more than possible!
Thanks for your words, l will go back and tweet this track when l lay some vocals down, yes some bit were looped, i always wanted to play a live piano over this piece, so maybe that would give it more of a live feel, as to the jazz ref' l used some major7th cords and minor augmented cords that do pop up in jazz, but as to its ref' maybe that was a bit ambitious off me....and l will have a look at the FX when l come back to the track. thanks for the listen. Mickey
No problem with honest and constructive feedback. I'm sort of not sure what the point is in just leaving "Sweet tune. Liked the guitar!" or similar on people's music (I get quite a bit of that. Nice, but not that useful to me). Something of substance might help them and any decent musician should have a fair bit to say, especially if there's room for improvement.
I'm going to go against the grain of all the other reviews and say that, as good as this is, I feel it could be better. It needs to have a more distinctive change and probably build to something bigger. But maybe that's just how I like to hear and make music so no problem if you're happy with it as it is.
I thought you could have varied the drums more eg perhaps sent the hats double tempo or something. Good atmosphere and vibe and vocals but not enough memorable bits for me. Along the same lines, good simple groove but plods along too much. I'd enjoy it if I was out listening to it somewhere (just in terms of the vibe) but I don't think it has the vitality and depth of truly great music (and I'm sure that's what you're aiming to make) or enough memorable riffs or solos or dramatic moments.
Good work anyway and hope you appreciate that this is constructive criticism based on my genuine reaction to it.
Man I hear you...for I am and never will be 100% satisfied with my tracks!...always feel there is room for improvements...especially as I am learning my trade!...thanks again for the honest and constructive feedback...lots for me to take away..much appreciated man...will be over to listen to you again soon!
Further to my previous review, you might also like my 'Untitled Ethereal Daisy Jazz Funk ' track on this site. It's probably my most popular one on here.
Yes, very good and instantly appealing so well done. Good piano sounds here and the drums are well done. The one slight problem with the dulcimer is that it's (I think ) all programmed and sounds a bit rigid. Would be better if you could make it sound a little more human in its timing, perhaps by applying a subtle bit of quantising or something. Separately, I think you may well get quite a bit out of a recent alternative jazz epic from me called The Second Law Of Self-Love. Drums are also programmed (Reason Drumkits 2.0 hypersampled drums) and there's keyboard, loads and loads of layered vocals, guitar and much more. Here's the link: http://www2.mixposure.com/Endless_Rotary/song_focus_26829.php
I'm going to echo two other reviews and say: 'Make the damn thing longer!'. Your reviwers have spoken! Get back in your sequencer and keep adding to it as it's a great start. Bring in some killer bass and some other guitar work and you'll have something so much better.
Good stuff - my kind of laid back groove. Excellent bass and the guitar has a lovely touch and feel to it. I'm not sure what you mean by 'the big bass' but it's a sound I'd like to get. Please tell me how you got it, maybe I can too. I like the variation too on the guitar - it's not just the lead part that's good. Ends a bit too abruptly - I think you should extend it (but then I do love long tracks that really squeeze as much as possible out of a good idea). Please check out some of my tracks, particularly those I have posted under 'Blues' as I think you might like them. Knee Deep In The Cosmic Overwhelm is probably the best one to start with but no one has commented on Pre-Birth Blues yet so maybe you can be the first...
Static, Glad you liked the piece. Fixing the end is very doable. Good idea. As far as the bass goes I explain my setup to Nuada below. I'll definitely check out you tunes.
Thanks for the comments.
j.a.
I love the vibe and groove of this track - totally my kind of sounds and I really should look to obtaining these sounds somehow. I'm not talking about samples but playing the relevant instruments(I have a sitar but don't play it)or synth settings. My main problem with it is that it doesn't real go anywhere. Perfect pure background stuff for films or any chillout event, trance, ritual or similar but it doesn't seem to have any clearly defined sections or changes, though this may be how you made it and what you want. So, all in all, I have no problem with what is there, more of a problem with what isn't there. More reviews to come of your good work, just thought I'd review your least reviewed track.
Well done. That has good potential. I like all the parts and the way they interact and I can hear just where a rapper might come in and what he/she might react to and play off. The strings are good too. Hope you find the right vocals. If not, I say just add some lead parts and vary the drum loops and go with it being instrumental (that's what I mostly do, check some of my work).
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& regardinG your idea abouT membranophonic parT I'm agree with U ...buT there was an apathetic sensation in me about iT ( also about that 1seconds & 0.14 )which made me quarter to my beloved phrase '' never mind '' instead of trying to make it longer .
else & beside my colleague , density of my guitar was according to sigma of lines behind which made the same atmosphere in intro parT & functionallY follows density of sound waves = this formul if U may know :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_energy_density
& this time I'm not agree cause according to my job , I live with numbers even as sex parthner .
thnx aloT for your carefully attention Mr guitarist , and would be worthy of greatest respecT if let's use scientific phrases instead of '' fit '' which I don'T thnk if it's a Scientific word in music theorY which is build by numbers .
dear Mr.guitarist, commenting withouT respect and talking as a master talks with his studenT in comment , needs more calculation I think . as a guitarist who has been played by his guitars more than 21 years ,I've underestood our guitars work , cause our number ( human's numbers and calculations )has worked to can build iT.appology+thnX=respectfully.___Behnam
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I appreciate that you took the time to listen and leave your thoughts (especially since this isn't really up your street)
Alas, the tune is dead and buried on my old lap top so if i wanted to alter anything i'd have to rewrite the track from scratch (Which i really can't be bothered to do as it aint exactly ever gonna be a number one)
Thanks for stopping by.
FR
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This is because I am always looking to improve and do so all the time. I'm also quite often in denial about little bits of tracks that don't work and so sometimes need to have them pointed out to me. I think that sort of thing is really what sites such as Looperman should be all about rather than just telling people that their stuff is great. I also like to hear evaluation of what I do because, while I think it's good, I'm obviously just a little biased and cannot have the objectivity that I would like to have. I also don't play in a band and have almost no regular music friends so it's a very isolated musical existence that I have.
Yes, it's the arp patch that I would change. Just spend a while choosing a different patch as I know it can be better. Great programming and notes and groove will still probably sound not great on a crap patch.
Yes, know what you mean about fudging the flow. Again, it doesn't have to have a more repeitive vocal hook - I just think it would make it more accessible with it but it's a different mood without. Yes, glad you agree about the end section. I wasn't afraid to be bold in saying that it has to go because I thought you might agree. It so obviously stands out as being unnecessary but can see why you would leave it in for mixing in to next track live.
Sure, PM me if you want though I'm not sure how to see PMs (will check now). Yes, check out my stuff though I have much higher quality tracks on other sites that allow hosting of longer stuff (mine are typically between 12 and 18 mins though I do have shorter ones on here. Many of the tracks I have on this site are out of date and have been surpassed by better versions. So, the ones I would recommend listening to are: Lord Of Misrule, Circular Motion, Way Beyond Wrong, Knee Deep In The Cosmic Overwhelm, Tribal Warfare and Untitled Ethereal Daisy Jazz Funk though the others are also pretty decent. Glad that you appreciated my words.
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thank you so much!
my questions about your comments;
which patch are you thinking needs changing?
the arp'd patch?
as far as a vocal hook, artisticially i was going for more of the unorganized sadness of the topic of the song but I'll look at it with different eyes and see if I can arrange one without fudging the flow.
Lastly your completely correct that ending section has to go, it was my mistake for I was being short sighted and only thinking of my next gig and how this track was going to be mixed in...when I should have left it alone and do that arrangement for my live set and not what I posted here.
really thsnks... I'm gonna hit you up via personal message if you dont mind...maybe i can do the same kinda thing for you?
either way.... rock on and thanks again!
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Thank you very very much for taking time to write so much!
Thats real kind of you!.
I just made this as the sun was out and i wanted that party hard vibe!
Nothing special,but very enjoyable is all i try to create!
Thank you again for your kind remarks!
Peace all the way!
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I wouldn't say that it opens a whole new world of possibilities, it all depends on your playing style and genre. But yeah.. if you want a deep low end while preserving the ability to play high pitched screetching solos - definetely have a look at the 7 or 8 string guitars
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I've got a couple of guitars, and this one is a 7 string Ibanez Prestige guitar tuned to ADGCFAD, the chorus riff is in A, so yeah, it sounds low :)
thanks for your feedback
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I thought you could have varied the drums more eg perhaps sent the hats double tempo or something. Good atmosphere and vibe and vocals but not enough memorable bits for me. Along the same lines, good simple groove but plods along too much. I'd enjoy it if I was out listening to it somewhere (just in terms of the vibe) but I don't think it has the vitality and depth of truly great music (and I'm sure that's what you're aiming to make) or enough memorable riffs or solos or dramatic moments.
Good work anyway and hope you appreciate that this is constructive criticism based on my genuine reaction to it.
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