some really nice ideas brother... not one for me I not usre if it's the genre or what but I think it's mostly because of the lack of bassline ... I know it's supposed be this kinda dance tune but for me it can't be that without a bassline perhaps you think I'm being hyper critical so I will play nice... the the drum track and the synths work really well and would fit well on any dance floor I would have liked a tiny bit more of the kick in the mix but still
Fosho Phyrius. Im starting to really enjoy your bluntness :P
That might sound funny, but I guess its nice in a way to see someone tell me I could do something better. Or even just say "yo to me, I just dont dig it. Dunno why really, but I dont"
Im thinking maybe a pad? Im tempted to email you and ask what yo think could add more to the sub freqs.
I gotta say though, I thought the kick hit almost too hard! lol. but now you got me questioning that haha.
Ahh screw it man ima contact you. I dig this track but if I can better it with something as simple as bass Im all ears.
Thanks for listening fam.
the drum work this is fantastic brother and don't get me started on the guitar work.... I would say though that guitar track that comes in at about 0:50 needs to come to the front rather than being hidden at the back bringing out of the reverb would add an extra maiden feel to it...
the glitches are amazing brother...vst? is it that sequent? if it is what preset are you using....
on a personally note I would be completely happy to release something of this quality on the label...
your drum track needs a bit of work on the post production side it's muddying up with you low end bass...
you need to cut the kick eq...at the bottom range remember subs sit in 30 to 60/70 hz and really are more meant to felt rather than heard so if you cut the bottom end and boost at around 100hz with a thin Q you'll still have power to your kick but it won't be as muddy....
as far as you snare goes you need to boost at 200hz and 2.0hz and cut off the very very top...
hats... a neat trick I just learnt is if you cut your EQ at around 6.0hz thin Q gain completely off the hats seem to sit better...give it a go seriously it really does make a difference..
also I would try side chaining you bass compression through your kick... then setting you attack to 0 (zero) and your release up to when you can just hear the bass dipping not too much because you'll end up with a gating effect...now I'm not sure how you do this on fruity but I assure you it can be done... if you get problem try contacting Rollagee the man kicks in fruity...
as I say some nice ideas...sometime the simplest road is the best if you get what I mean...
some nice ideas...your intro definiately needs some work you've got timing issues with your arp...
also with the length as it is you get the feeling that this is just an intro ...I know you've said its a demo but....really? 1 min?
the drum track needs to be thicker even the thinnest drum track need thickness.. try layering up your sounds and eqing them to roll off the very top and take out the low end where you lower bass sounds will still... I always find if you boost you kick at around 90hz-100hz you'll still get your power but if wont sound as muddy...
as I say some nice ideas but those timing issue need sorting brother...
Thanks a lot for your review !
I'm not sure about the "timing issues" you are mentionning, as it is just a midi clip, the same length as the others, so I don't understand how it is off-time ?
Thanks for the tip on the drums, I boosted them to around 60-70hz if I remember well, I'll try the 90-100 range as you suggest.
It sounds like an intro because, well, it is, in some ways :p
As stated in my profile, I just like to play with sounds for fun, I uploaded this one because it used another member's sample. I try to learn new things with each demo I make (this time it was giving an effect to the voice without actually modifying it)
Thanks to you, I have a list of other things to watch out for... so thank you :)
some nice ideas brother....very simplistic but I guess thats the beauty of it really... I have to say it's not really my thing but I can definitely hear the need for a vocal on this...
as I say not really my thing but it is great in it's simplicity
thanks for listening to it !
it is very simplistic but that's the way it sounded nice. I have some more beats on the way. like a lot more, so keep checking :)
peace !
some really nice ideas...I have to say I do like tracks of this genre to grab me a bit more but that drum track is great ...hmmm definitely one for me to have a run at thanks for uploading the files for remix brother...
Thanks alot! yeah you could do lots of crazy ideas on this track; that's why I thought it will be cool for a remix. Could you help me with create a midi file so I can give you the notes of the song? Cheers man! Lookin forward to hear your remix!
Yeah, thanks for the comment Jack... i forgot to mention it... all mistakes was did with purpose XD
Actually they are not mistakes, they are just made in that way, including the deep reverb effect to express the feel about missing someone.
hhhhmmm...grime is still something that is growing on me ....
you say you've left head room for those vocals but you can show case you talent by leaving room for other people because those vocals might never come alot and then all you left with is a weak track...if you get me?
for me you have got to layer up your bass with at least three copies of the same track.. one low like a sub...one mid...one top...mix 'em together and you got a thick bassline brother...
I would do a similar thing with the drum track...layer up those kicks and snares....
anyway.... I would say you might benefit from checking out this guy
I know what you mean when speaking about the weak track if the vocals don't go to well. so far on the bassline i've only mixed in two instrument tracks, as you said above its only the middle and high section thats playing prominently throughtout in this version. was having trouble with my sub-bass as it was clashing with my kick. i've solved the problem today though by tightening up the kick so it's alot harder hiting between 100k & 130k (anything else is shelfed out) i've added a seperate kick track with a little tad of reverb and an expander on the middle frequencies so it fills the gaps. my sub-bass is side chained with the seperate kick track to add a more aggresive pumping feel.
OdotZed has some tasty tunes fair play to him.
This is my first attempt at a grime genre song so it's a learning curve for me...
Thanks for the review, you've pointed out some flaws that I will need to address for sure.
All the Best,
GB13
have I reviewed this track before in some different form? the intro sounds soooooo like something I recognize....
some nice ideas though...dark and light at the same time....the drum track is great...for me I would have added some more sfx or even glitch elements to it to really have got the darkness popping you know?
This the first time posting this, just posted it yesterday.
Yeah i didn't feel that i added as much as i could but at the same time i wasn't trying to clutter it up too much you know. Well glad you liked it, and good to hear ideas also.
some nice ideas brother...for me the composition is a little simple but as has already been said if you were to add something like a bass drone in the background and some fx it might make it a touch more complex...
thank you for your comment i have only been useing fl the past few days so im still trying to get the hang of it but this was the first loop i have ever done but they will get better as i progress
kerry :)
I have to say all the panning made me feel a bit sick... there are some timing issues as well with some of the synths..
all in all I would say you probably need to add a more prominent bass line and calm down on the panning... the drum track is really good you might wanna try automating a filter on those drums taking out the low end completely for the break downs it would keep the track moving and add the extra dance feeling your after...
Many thanks for the review, much appreciated. I have not produced music for very long.
I do have a major issue with using samples for the vast majoirty of the music I compile. The panning was already embedded in the europa sample and so I experimented by using/adding other sounds around it.
None of the sounds were actually composed by myself, these were all compiled together.
I do use Sony Acid to mix the mp3 files, and very new to it. This is just a hobby for me.
I was told that I had a good sound for putting music together so thought what the heck.... But many thanks for the feedback. I will keep it mind
for me I cringe every time I hear something like this even being mentioned....
but...
this works really well and it wouldn't be out of place in any discotheque..(showing my age !!)... the production is good and the whole piece is well put together...
having said that it still made me cringe because it seems to be laziness to use an established piece of music and put a twist on it but then I find myself asking "isn't that just a remix?" and the truth is ....
yeah it's is just a remix so then I find myself asking "why not just call a spade a spade and be done with it?"
I think that if the title said more about the contents it might sit better with me
but.... on the other hand perhaps it's cause I'm not a trance fan that I don't get it... hhhmmmmm...
who knows... some nice ideas but I have to say this track certainly left me scratching my head...
yeah bro, this is just a remix... thats true... nothing special lol
last week i found myself whistling that melody, and decided to make this remix just on my way, so there is the result of that lol
its simple but nice... actually i like it... could be better but i will leave it for now...
thank you bro for listening and for this nice review. appreciate your time.
some really nice ideas... it is widely known that I'm not a big fan of hiphop so excuse me if I sound dumb when I ask who is the Mc and the singer?
if it's you then the recording is great there is a slight hiss on the very top end but that might just be the ride/shake...
its quite refreshing to hear a track where the vocals seem like they belong to the track.. for me they might need to come up just a touch in the final mix and you might wanna take a little of the top end of the crash because it seems to be muddying the top end of the vocal...
having said all that I did enjoy the track it just need a few small tweaks to make it sparkle like the vocal deserves
it's widely know I'm not a big fan of hip hop.... but this is something different... it's got a very limp bizkit feel to it ..
production wise there are a few problems..the track seems to be underneath the vocals rather than the vocals being apart of the track... it's quite distracting and sometimes you feel that it almost messes with the flow in your head...
having said that I did enjoy every second of it so... maybe thats just me bit a moany old git!!
Thanx man...And yeah you are right the Mix of the beat and vocals are not great...I just sent the beat to Chase and he laid his vocals straight to the song...But if we could record in one room together it would have been really nice(We live in different countries)...and that's the real problem...Again Thanx for the review.
some great stuff brother... you two seem to work well together...
for me that snare needs a little more snap to it...maybe try changing it up... not on every hit but maybe every other or one in a bar... and thats my only suggestion other than maybe a few more sfx in there to add a little more texture
the bass balance is brilliant....
you pair should come up with a band name.... we could always use tracks of this quality on the label...
What up brother? Thanks man... Yeah I agree with you on the SFX thing. I think it needs something extra too to fill in the gaps. Yeah Becca and I had thought about a name as well. We were thinking like B&B productions or something along those lines. Wow!! We would be honored to join Housefly!!! Gonna keep grinding away and get some quality stuff for ya! I appreciate ya stoppin in to have a listen and for the costructive review!!!
this is just great brother...you've taken your knowledge from dnb production and wrapped it up in a big hip hop bow...
your should get this one over to chase Manhattan brother.. I'm sure he'd love to spit over this also maybe try getting some english sounding rhymes over it get it over to ROSH that boy has some serious talent too..
hhhhhmmmmm...nice... I'm digging the vocals on this one some really truly nice stuff and the quality is amazing... you guys work really well together...
this I ashamed to say is only the third time I've checked out your stuff and I'm glad as before that I did... I'm hearing Floyd..dire straits...santana...elements of metallica or gnr...
hands down the best production quality I've heard here on the loop for years...
if you guys ever want to get together and put out an E.P on the label give us a shout because this would be huge...
Hey man thanks for the great review!...it's interesting reading your take on the influences running through this piece and even better that in a collaboration they all can come out...we all play off each other and give appropriate space and freedom during the whole process,working with these guys is a communal buzz..thanks for the offer man,I really appreciate that!..cheers from Dave,Detlef,Bill and Steve :)
on Mini-Meals by BrokenScythe
some really nice ideas brother....
keep 'em coming
That might sound funny, but I guess its nice in a way to see someone tell me I could do something better. Or even just say "yo to me, I just dont dig it. Dunno why really, but I dont"
Im thinking maybe a pad? Im tempted to email you and ask what yo think could add more to the sub freqs.
I gotta say though, I thought the kick hit almost too hard! lol. but now you got me questioning that haha.
Ahh screw it man ima contact you. I dig this track but if I can better it with something as simple as bass Im all ears.
Thanks for listening fam.
on Higher ft Harutune by ChaseManhattan
for me the vox needs to come up in the mix but thats the only critique... it seems to be hiding a bit brother...
anyway nice stuff
keep 'em coming brother
on Waldeinsamkeit WIPv3Demo by alividlife
the drum work this is fantastic brother and don't get me started on the guitar work.... I would say though that guitar track that comes in at about 0:50 needs to come to the front rather than being hidden at the back bringing out of the reverb would add an extra maiden feel to it...
the glitches are amazing brother...vst? is it that sequent? if it is what preset are you using....
on a personally note I would be completely happy to release something of this quality on the label...
nice nice nice...keep 'em coming brother..
YOU ROCK...
on DnB yo by TXB
your drum track needs a bit of work on the post production side it's muddying up with you low end bass...
you need to cut the kick eq...at the bottom range remember subs sit in 30 to 60/70 hz and really are more meant to felt rather than heard so if you cut the bottom end and boost at around 100hz with a thin Q you'll still have power to your kick but it won't be as muddy....
as far as you snare goes you need to boost at 200hz and 2.0hz and cut off the very very top...
hats... a neat trick I just learnt is if you cut your EQ at around 6.0hz thin Q gain completely off the hats seem to sit better...give it a go seriously it really does make a difference..
also I would try side chaining you bass compression through your kick... then setting you attack to 0 (zero) and your release up to when you can just hear the bass dipping not too much because you'll end up with a gating effect...now I'm not sure how you do this on fruity but I assure you it can be done... if you get problem try contacting Rollagee the man kicks in fruity...
as I say some nice ideas...sometime the simplest road is the best if you get what I mean...
keep 'em coming brother
on Demosong - I Need Love by FuraxHornyx
also with the length as it is you get the feeling that this is just an intro ...I know you've said its a demo but....really? 1 min?
the drum track needs to be thicker even the thinnest drum track need thickness.. try layering up your sounds and eqing them to roll off the very top and take out the low end where you lower bass sounds will still... I always find if you boost you kick at around 90hz-100hz you'll still get your power but if wont sound as muddy...
as I say some nice ideas but those timing issue need sorting brother...
keep 'em coming
I'm not sure about the "timing issues" you are mentionning, as it is just a midi clip, the same length as the others, so I don't understand how it is off-time ?
Thanks for the tip on the drums, I boosted them to around 60-70hz if I remember well, I'll try the 90-100 range as you suggest.
It sounds like an intro because, well, it is, in some ways :p
As stated in my profile, I just like to play with sounds for fun, I uploaded this one because it used another member's sample. I try to learn new things with each demo I make (this time it was giving an effect to the voice without actually modifying it)
Thanks to you, I have a list of other things to watch out for... so thank you :)
on Love Song by PJPBeatz
as I say not really my thing but it is great in it's simplicity
keep 'em coming brother
it is very simplistic but that's the way it sounded nice. I have some more beats on the way. like a lot more, so keep checking :)
peace !
on Dirty Electro by Lerique
nice keep 'em coming
on No Warranties Void ft Salook Arkeyetexture by ChaseManhattan
keep 'em coming brother
on Reckless -Venomous MCs- FT Nepaul AND HalfKnot by BrokenScythe
great sound very pro production... what else can I say brother...nice
keep 'em coming
on Rainy Day Melancholy xxx miss you feat CyberTooth by WaPer
everything seems very far away..nothing seems to be really cutting through you know? maybe a little less reverb would help...
anyway some nice ideas like I said ...refreshing to see cyber doing ambient....
keep 'em coming brother
Actually they are not mistakes, they are just made in that way, including the deep reverb effect to express the feel about missing someone.
on Lokstok by GB13
you say you've left head room for those vocals but you can show case you talent by leaving room for other people because those vocals might never come alot and then all you left with is a weak track...if you get me?
for me you have got to layer up your bass with at least three copies of the same track.. one low like a sub...one mid...one top...mix 'em together and you got a thick bassline brother...
I would do a similar thing with the drum track...layer up those kicks and snares....
anyway.... I would say you might benefit from checking out this guy
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/110734
OdotZed is one of the best grime producers around these parts brother... there are plenty of others of course but he is by far my fav....
anyway...keep 'em coming brother
OdotZed has some tasty tunes fair play to him.
This is my first attempt at a grime genre song so it's a learning curve for me...
Thanks for the review, you've pointed out some flaws that I will need to address for sure.
All the Best,
GB13
on Nightmare by LongJohnsLiver
some nice ideas though...dark and light at the same time....the drum track is great...for me I would have added some more sfx or even glitch elements to it to really have got the darkness popping you know?
I really enjoy this...keep 'em coming brother
Yeah i didn't feel that i added as much as i could but at the same time i wasn't trying to clutter it up too much you know. Well glad you liked it, and good to hear ideas also.
Peace
on Into the Jungle ft RollaG CM by ChaseManhattan
on Rock the Joints ft Harutune Chase Manhattan by ChaseManhattan
great track brother...
keep 'em coming
on All The Time ft Harutune by ChaseManhattan
not much else to say really
nice...
Keep 'em coming brother
on Guitar and drums experimental by uberstrat
as I said some nice ideas brother...
keep 'em coming
on Abandoned soul by kerry
for me I would say you need to add some extra fx... maybe a drone just something to add extra interest and texture
but like I said some nice ideas...
keep 'em coming
kerry :)
on Europa by ZEE
I have to say all the panning made me feel a bit sick... there are some timing issues as well with some of the synths..
all in all I would say you probably need to add a more prominent bass line and calm down on the panning... the drum track is really good you might wanna try automating a filter on those drums taking out the low end completely for the break downs it would keep the track moving and add the extra dance feeling your after...
as I said some nice ideas brother...
keep 'em coming
Many thanks for the review, much appreciated. I have not produced music for very long.
I do have a major issue with using samples for the vast majoirty of the music I compile. The panning was already embedded in the europa sample and so I experimented by using/adding other sounds around it.
None of the sounds were actually composed by myself, these were all compiled together.
I do use Sony Acid to mix the mp3 files, and very new to it. This is just a hobby for me.
I was told that I had a good sound for putting music together so thought what the heck.... But many thanks for the feedback. I will keep it mind
Zee
on For My Darling (Elise rmx) by WaPer
for me I cringe every time I hear something like this even being mentioned....
but...
this works really well and it wouldn't be out of place in any discotheque..(showing my age !!)... the production is good and the whole piece is well put together...
having said that it still made me cringe because it seems to be laziness to use an established piece of music and put a twist on it but then I find myself asking "isn't that just a remix?" and the truth is ....
yeah it's is just a remix so then I find myself asking "why not just call a spade a spade and be done with it?"
I think that if the title said more about the contents it might sit better with me
but.... on the other hand perhaps it's cause I'm not a trance fan that I don't get it... hhhmmmmm...
who knows... some nice ideas but I have to say this track certainly left me scratching my head...
keep 'em coming brother
last week i found myself whistling that melody, and decided to make this remix just on my way, so there is the result of that lol
its simple but nice... actually i like it... could be better but i will leave it for now...
thank you bro for listening and for this nice review. appreciate your time.
cheers!
on Wanna Have It All-Epik by TripleREnt
if it's you then the recording is great there is a slight hiss on the very top end but that might just be the ride/shake...
its quite refreshing to hear a track where the vocals seem like they belong to the track.. for me they might need to come up just a touch in the final mix and you might wanna take a little of the top end of the crash because it seems to be muddying the top end of the vocal...
having said all that I did enjoy the track it just need a few small tweaks to make it sparkle like the vocal deserves
keep 'em coming brother
on Get Outta My Way ft Chase Manhattan Harutune by HaruTune
production wise there are a few problems..the track seems to be underneath the vocals rather than the vocals being apart of the track... it's quite distracting and sometimes you feel that it almost messes with the flow in your head...
having said that I did enjoy every second of it so... maybe thats just me bit a moany old git!!
thanks for sharing
keep 'em coming brother
on Good Intentions By DJ Becca and Blume Choon by BlumeChoon
for me that snare needs a little more snap to it...maybe try changing it up... not on every hit but maybe every other or one in a bar... and thats my only suggestion other than maybe a few more sfx in there to add a little more texture
the bass balance is brilliant....
you pair should come up with a band name.... we could always use tracks of this quality on the label...
nice one...
keep 'em coming brother
Blume:)
on Brandywine by Spivkurl
I have to say I think the track needs a bit of thickness under the kick and under that bass....
remixing this is going to be fun....
I'll let you know when I come up with something brother...
keep 'em coming
on SelfEnd by HMNN
your should get this one over to chase Manhattan brother.. I'm sure he'd love to spit over this also maybe try getting some english sounding rhymes over it get it over to ROSH that boy has some serious talent too..
anyway nice track I enjoy every second of it...
keep 'em coming brother
on THE DISTANCE by Planetjazzbass
this I ashamed to say is only the third time I've checked out your stuff and I'm glad as before that I did... I'm hearing Floyd..dire straits...santana...elements of metallica or gnr...
hands down the best production quality I've heard here on the loop for years...
if you guys ever want to get together and put out an E.P on the label give us a shout because this would be huge...
nice one brother...
keep 'em coming