Well, the good news is I think it all sounds pretty good; one point you can work a bit more is that it's of course a bit repetitive, but that might be your intention if you want it to be used as a beat for rapping, so that might be fine.
Have you thought about taking a rap from the acapella section and see if you can make that work? That would be really interesting I think!
Thank you for the reply BaoBou, I do have some problems with the arrangements, and you made a really great point, I should put an acapella on my track. I would assume that would help with the arrangement structure.
That's a great song Wayne!Great drumming too! and the harmonica and whatever that thing is around 0:59. Bass totally on point too.
You absolutely exceeded yourself!
(Btw isn't it Santa Fe, or is that a reference to Tina? ;) )
It's interesting. The other one is slower; I think the slightly faster tempo works better for me. I also like the unprocessed vocals better; but the key you used in the newer version is a bit closer to the key of the vocal (although neither fit).
All in all I still think the original is more compelling.
Good luck :)
I agree. I just really wanted it all to work because I was so into that vocal sample. And I wanted it to be as raw as possible because I felt like any kind of effect would take away some of the emotion.
Dude, every part of that story is extremely sad. Hope you and dad are doing ok - just know you made a beautiful track to honor your mom. Big hug and see you soon here.
Lovely psychedelic track. So much to hear and so much going on, great stuff Robert!! Those keys at 1:17 are straight out of a Jazz festival. Brilliant.
Oh and Qwerty... I had a colleague named "Bert" who had an interesting way of typing his name by running his finger along the top row of the keyboard. I saw him do this and he joked that if he would have a son, he would call him Qwerty, for that reason. He would be crazy enough to do it too, so yeah, maybe it's a name by now ;)
Gave it another listen:
- love the guitar and clap
- the vocal untl 0:36 is partially offbeat and that's perfect and very cool
- then in 0:37 I first felt it went into a different tempo but I think you skipped or inserted a beat
- then at 0:44 there's a sudden change, especially in loudness, but here it really goes into a lower tempo
- the change at 1:24 I liked, and again back to the original tempo/rhythm
- Then at 2:00 and 2:07 something similar happens as above which I don't fully understand with my tiny brain.
I suspect all of this might be fine, but it would help me if the transitions are either more gradual, or possibly "announced" in advance, so I understand what's going on.
Or not, and that's also fine, I'm just trying to explain what I heard and meant :) Oh and btw lovely clear production!
Have a fantastic day!
you have correctly addressed all places where every ear involuntarily pays attention.
But it is at no place an oversight, but was actually made by me with declared intention so. One can argue about that, of course, but in the end it is a matter of taste. You like it or you don't.
"Or not, and that's also fine, I'm just trying to explain what I heard and meant :)"
Thanks for your two comments and the related time you gave me/the song.
I'm quite glad that the track was not judged as a technical renovation case. Because as I said, about taste you can argue, about possibly glaring technical deficiencies not.
Good track if a bit much vocal processing for my taste (no doubt in the acapella) ;) but that's the cool thing about Looperman; we all have a different taste and style and your is undoubtably more 2023.
Good work my friend!
Not bad for 15 min! Of course most of it is repetition and after a minute I'd had enough; so maybe you can invest a couple hours and make something more interesting that will keep people's attention long?
Good start though!
I'm sorry if my comment was harsh! I'm also sorry it was the first comment you received; but I see to some extent you've been doing similar things in your older tracks.
Here's a bit of explanation and hopefully that'll help you more.
When we make music, whether it's in a DAW, or jamming with friends, or singing together, or just clapping a rhythm, it's important you all more or less sing the same song. A song has a melody, and the melody then fits a certain "key", meaning all the notes more or less go together. You can change key within a song, but that's something we hear, and if for instance you sing one key but your friend sings a different key, that sounds chaotic and generally unpleasant to human ears.
The same goes for the BPM, the "beats per minute", say the speed of the song. If I clap once every second, and you clap twice every second, that goes together well. But if I clap every 1.1 seconds and you every .9 seconds or just at random, again it sounds like chaos.
These are the things you have to keep in mind when you're playing an instrument, but also when combining loops or samples like you do. That's a learning process, and it makes sense you don't get that right the first time, but if that's something that's hard for you, then try to find a friend, a family member, a teacher, somebody who can show you how to fit things together. Or look on youtube! There are boatloads of good videos.
Here on the site, often you will see the "BPM" indicated (eg 118), and for most vocals and loops people indicate a "key" (eg C major or A minor). It's unfortunately not always correct, but try to stick with all loops the same key and BPM, and then in your DAW (I use Ableton but there are loads, some of them even free or low cost) you need to make sure the same BPM is set, which should make it easier to move them around. Use all samples with the same BPM and key, and you'll have a better start.
That genuinely helped a lot. I appreciate it. The DAW I'm currently using is BandLab. It's a free DAW, it's more professional DAWs but more simplified. I'm sure you've heard of it.
I really appreciate the feedback and positive criticism. Like the most recent track I uploaded (Which was like 10, 15 minutes ago) I realize has a similar issue. Where it's... "Not very pleasant to listen to" As my French Teacher would say.
I will certainly take that into consideration and maybe the next track will be better. I can only hope because BandLab is useful, but it's missing a lot of stuff that a DAW like Ableton or FL Studio would have. It's more limited when it comes to creativity as we'd say.
I'm pretty sure if I play around with it a little bit, I'll get it figured out. But the feedback helps.
P.S. I didn't find the comment harsh in any way and too be honest. I was fairly happy when I saw a comment was left. It's also the first comment I've ever gotten on any track I've uploaded to this site.
Hello BaoBou, I thought the beginning is a little bit suprising because the bass phrase is not what you expect. But I like it. Thanks for your comments
I have to leave a second comment. Absolutely excellent track, you kept my attention for the full 8:23 (well ok maybe the final 30 seconds I thought we were already done ;) and this is not my music at all, so really really well done.
I'm a fan!
This is actually one of my older works and has been played out in Melbourne a fair bit as well as a a few festivals. It was a ‘hit’ as much as an underground track can be. If I can get other DJs to play any of my tracks I’m happy:)
The vocals are fine, but they don't match your track, either in speed or in key. That's a pity, I think you better leave them out.
I'm also not sure what's going on in your music, it seems a bunch of unrelated loops if I'm very honest? Did something go wrong maybe, or am I having a stroke?
I do apologize if it didn't meet your expectations. I'm still pretty new to music making. I mainly just do it as a side hobby, because of school and all that I don't have too much time to practice. I'm also using a DAW with very limited capability and not as much creative freedom. I am trying to save up for a more professional DAW. But thanks for the feedback.
Also if you have any good music DAWs you'd recommend for... Better tracks essentially then that'd really help.
I liked that quite a bit; I like it better now that I see you recorded it live, that's very good.
Great trance track although I felt you went a bit overboard with the "I know you're going to digg this" sample. Use it a bit more sparingly and it will have more effect.
Good job!
Thank you for kind words! Yeah I smashed that dig this button a bit much on that particular performance; as a live track it’s obviously a bit different every time I play it…good call though :D
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Have you thought about taking a rap from the acapella section and see if you can make that work? That would be really interesting I think!
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You absolutely exceeded yourself!
(Btw isn't it Santa Fe, or is that a reference to Tina? ;) )
Wayne
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All in all I still think the original is more compelling.
Good luck :)
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Although I've been doing it for some Fridays :)
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Are you a fan of good old Johnny Hallyday? :)
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Oh and Qwerty... I had a colleague named "Bert" who had an interesting way of typing his name by running his finger along the top row of the keyboard. I saw him do this and he joked that if he would have a son, he would call him Qwerty, for that reason. He would be crazy enough to do it too, so yeah, maybe it's a name by now ;)
on Trio Musica by Seelengold
- love the guitar and clap
- the vocal untl 0:36 is partially offbeat and that's perfect and very cool
- then in 0:37 I first felt it went into a different tempo but I think you skipped or inserted a beat
- then at 0:44 there's a sudden change, especially in loudness, but here it really goes into a lower tempo
- the change at 1:24 I liked, and again back to the original tempo/rhythm
- Then at 2:00 and 2:07 something similar happens as above which I don't fully understand with my tiny brain.
I suspect all of this might be fine, but it would help me if the transitions are either more gradual, or possibly "announced" in advance, so I understand what's going on.
Or not, and that's also fine, I'm just trying to explain what I heard and meant :) Oh and btw lovely clear production!
Have a fantastic day!
you have correctly addressed all places where every ear involuntarily pays attention.
But it is at no place an oversight, but was actually made by me with declared intention so. One can argue about that, of course, but in the end it is a matter of taste. You like it or you don't.
"Or not, and that's also fine, I'm just trying to explain what I heard and meant :)"
Thanks for your two comments and the related time you gave me/the song.
I'm quite glad that the track was not judged as a technical renovation case. Because as I said, about taste you can argue, about possibly glaring technical deficiencies not.
Thank you!
Seelengold
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Good work my friend!
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Good start though!
on Summer Paradise - Vocals By PANE by Surniva
Here's a bit of explanation and hopefully that'll help you more.
When we make music, whether it's in a DAW, or jamming with friends, or singing together, or just clapping a rhythm, it's important you all more or less sing the same song. A song has a melody, and the melody then fits a certain "key", meaning all the notes more or less go together. You can change key within a song, but that's something we hear, and if for instance you sing one key but your friend sings a different key, that sounds chaotic and generally unpleasant to human ears.
The same goes for the BPM, the "beats per minute", say the speed of the song. If I clap once every second, and you clap twice every second, that goes together well. But if I clap every 1.1 seconds and you every .9 seconds or just at random, again it sounds like chaos.
These are the things you have to keep in mind when you're playing an instrument, but also when combining loops or samples like you do. That's a learning process, and it makes sense you don't get that right the first time, but if that's something that's hard for you, then try to find a friend, a family member, a teacher, somebody who can show you how to fit things together. Or look on youtube! There are boatloads of good videos.
Here on the site, often you will see the "BPM" indicated (eg 118), and for most vocals and loops people indicate a "key" (eg C major or A minor). It's unfortunately not always correct, but try to stick with all loops the same key and BPM, and then in your DAW (I use Ableton but there are loads, some of them even free or low cost) you need to make sure the same BPM is set, which should make it easier to move them around. Use all samples with the same BPM and key, and you'll have a better start.
Hope that helps you a bit!
I really appreciate the feedback and positive criticism. Like the most recent track I uploaded (Which was like 10, 15 minutes ago) I realize has a similar issue. Where it's... "Not very pleasant to listen to" As my French Teacher would say.
I will certainly take that into consideration and maybe the next track will be better. I can only hope because BandLab is useful, but it's missing a lot of stuff that a DAW like Ableton or FL Studio would have. It's more limited when it comes to creativity as we'd say.
I'm pretty sure if I play around with it a little bit, I'll get it figured out. But the feedback helps.
P.S. I didn't find the comment harsh in any way and too be honest. I was fairly happy when I saw a comment was left. It's also the first comment I've ever gotten on any track I've uploaded to this site.
Thanks again.
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I'm tired, it seems (facepalm)
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Who is your excellent singer btw.
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I'm a fan!
This is actually one of my older works and has been played out in Melbourne a fair bit as well as a a few festivals. It was a ‘hit’ as much as an underground track can be. If I can get other DJs to play any of my tracks I’m happy:)
on Proximity Efkt - Alice in Wonderland by Sp3cul8
on Summer Paradise - Vocals By PANE by Surniva
I'm also not sure what's going on in your music, it seems a bunch of unrelated loops if I'm very honest? Did something go wrong maybe, or am I having a stroke?
Also if you have any good music DAWs you'd recommend for... Better tracks essentially then that'd really help.
Thanks for the comment.
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Great trance track although I felt you went a bit overboard with the "I know you're going to digg this" sample. Use it a bit more sparingly and it will have more effect.
Good job!