LOL!..hehe,thanks Toonz!I doubt there's anywhere else on the planet where a broader diversity of accents exist than in the UK....being a complete Anglophile I dig em all!..cheers from the all the guys...Dave :)
this is pretty cool... I know that hip hop is repetitive but I would of liked a bit more variation to add a bit more depth to this track. nice sound bro!
As to the vocal recording: I say this to all people that do this, so don't be disheartened...
I think that recording identical vocal tracks and then layering them together sounds tacky on their own, especially when played throughout the whole track. I've never been a fan of it...
I would STRONGLY suggest recording:
a) a harmony (one octave up but in a different key)
b) an *almost* "spoken" version of the lyrics
c) a recording in a lower register, (depending on your range at present and octave or two lower)
and then panning these extra bits either left or right in key parts of the track to add depth. (not all the way through the track though)
Don't be afraid to use your chest voice either! this is where the power comes from (all of which can be learned from DL'ing Brett Manning's singing success from btjunkie - but I didn't tell you that ;) )
A simple - but GREAT example is "Hoobastank - the reason" very subtle, but very powerful. Study the vocals in that...
Like you, this chap doesn't use vibrato, but still sounds amazing!
Hope this puts you in the right direction for fulfilling your vocal ambitions :)
If you wanna pick my brains or whatever, email me at ggardiner86@aol.com
Mediocre at best. Again, claiming pro quality? A little over exaggerated I think :)
Like I was saying in the forum,.. I *thought* my stuff was good until I heard what I was up against on here... And I've learned a lot from my looperman fam. Become a little more humble, learn... and grow from the people here and you will go far :)
Hmmmmmmm,.... I'm not gonna be as harsh as the other reviewers here, that's for sure lol
Most of the elements *are* there for a decent commercial track. Certainly much more so than most tracks I hear on this site...
My initial thought on the vocal quality - not good. I'm thinking it was because of EQ settings teamed up with a poor quality mic, but you say it was due to the mix?
Tracks are supposed to be memorable to the listener because of a powerful hook. If I said to you "still Dre" - the track will probably pop into your head instantly... I don't get that feeling from this... Something to work on in future :)
That being said, you DO have potential... probably one of the better rappers I've heard on this site - but lose the arrogance mate - it doesn't suit you ;)
HARDWARE synths :Prophecy, nord lead 2, Tx 81 Z SAMPLES FOR THE DRUMS,
Hardware EFFECTS DELAY DP/2 ENSONIC :
VST DUAL FILTER; AND KOMBINATOR;
For the break the stylus effects WITH A SAMPLE.
The track you have here has the POTENTIAL to be very good - but this is no where near a finished track.
The intro is amazing - the beat is very professional sounding. But this is not enough......
This needs to be extended. It's too short.
It just sounds like one lonnnnnng intro...
There is no real bass line to speak of,... MORE BASS!!
This track needs to be broken down into sections... like intro, chorus, verse, break/build, chorus,verse chorus, break/ big build, chorus, chorus, outro,... or something like that.
this, like i say COULD be a very good track. It just needs moorrrreeee! :)
what program did u use to make this?? If you are interested I would like to work on it with you :)
I can see the idea behind the track is cool, but the bassy melody thing is suffering a bit and so does the track as a result.... I think the harmonics don't agree with each other on that particular sample. I would deffo suggest changing it.
But the track does have the potential to be a cool track, it's just that bassy thing :/
Thanks for taking time and review my track, I agree with all your points, and just so you know this was really made for fun, I mean you need more than 3 days to make a good song :)
But thanks, I might change it some when I get in the mood :))
ok so,... 8 minutes that is a really really long track. It took so long to actually get to the main part of the track that I think most people would lose interest long before that.
But having said that, when the main theme does kick in, it's really cool :)
I know what you mean about the sound quality problem, I too am having the same trouble on one of my tracks at 128kbps !
But i think you should make a "radio edit" for this track,... and shorten it to maybe 4-5 minutes.
At first I weren't sure about this track, but as it got into it I got into it.... fuckin phat track mate.
You definitely got the hook part down to a tee, i'm gonna have this in my head all day now - cheers! lol.
Really good job on the mastering as well,... everything's really clean. But I agree,... no grime track is complete without lyrics. Email some pirate radio stations with this n see what they saying mate!
safe bruv!
hopefully this will have lyrics on soon by a fellow Looperman member.
Mr. Payne
But i'll take ur advice on emailin this to online and pirate stations, see what happens to it.
Thanks.
:)
I love how clean and pumping the kicks are throughout. I'm a bit of a bass freak and there wasn't enough for my liking (but that's just me) and I also wasn't sure about the phased/flanged hat that's introduced at 30secs, again just me though :)
Especially liked the part of the track at 1:25, really liked the percussion.
I appreciate your response :)
I agree with you, so I'm working on the bass :)
Soon the track will be 100 % ready for release, maybe I'll change the intro and outtro, NOT THE MAIN LEAD! :D
Ha,you've gone the other way and now it's too quiet lol!
I don't remember if there was so much use of the delay effect last time on the drums or not but it's a bit OTT for my liking.
Now that you've used a limiter you can safely turn the levels up without it going in to the red.
But on another note, I noticed the tempo automation - you've taught me something there. I've been using FL for 7/8 years now and I didnt know you could do that :D
Damn! well at least i could return the favor, i only found the tempo auto cause i right click everything, looks like ill have to get back to work on figuring this damn track out.
Hey I really really like this track... I was just browsing the internet whilst listening to it and I didn't realise how long it was until it was finished. 7 minutes is pretty epic :) I know you say you can't afford a new DAW, but with stuff like this do you need one?? Great work :D
Thanks man i appreciate it! I take any feedback from reviewers into consideration..as far as incorporating myself amongst labels/companies, i am actually affiliated with a small label out of colorado known as "351". A dear friend of mine who is also a composer (Classical), is the founder & moved out there about 2 yrs ago to get it going. Though i do this not because i seek the recognition, fortune or fame, but simply for the love of music & the craft behind it. The means to share my work to any open ear that's willing to listen is my purpose, & coincidentally in some cases, pple are often discovered through the process.
Btw I enjoyed listening to your song entitled, "Dance Now". I believe i did leave you a review in regards to it...very nice vibe!
Not bad not bad, class work with the drums like always. The melody is a bit simplistic and repetitive. Maybe think about fattening up the melody by playing chords on one of the instruments like the piano or something as opposed to only single notes... And/Or maybe introduce a second motif to give more feeling and dynamics to the track
An introduction of a bass line would have fattened up the low end of the stereo spectrum as well. The track structure is there. It just needs MORE is all. Other than that, good job man.
I have to say this is the best I've heard today so far :)
Definitely original...
Around the 1:20 marker what I was expecting was a big drop into a nice bass line and a pounding beat instead of a break. The percussion break IS nice, but I wouldn't expect to hear that until 3/4's of the way through the track.
I know this is a demo version, but I would expect a house track to be a lot longer than it currently is.
What I hear at the moment is:
- Intro/build
- Verse
- Verse
- Break
- Break/build
- Verse
- Verse/Break
- DJ Nicholas CAT - (nice touch by the way)
This has the potential to be an absolutely brilliant track. But it really really needs a big catchy bass line, so in my opinion, do some rearranging.
- Move the percussion break and save it for later in the track
- Insert in it's a place a chorus with a bass line for like 16
bars
- Roll the arabian string again
- Back into the chorus
- THEN HAVE YOUR BREAKDOWN/BUILD HERE
- Back into the chorus for a final time
- Then your outro
As it stands, what I hear is very good - but it could be brilliant. That's why I've taken the time to give my advice in this long post. It's down to you whether you take it or not. I'm not a professional but I do know a little about track structure...
I would absolutely love to hear this track when it is finished, hopefully with a chorus and a bass line
Hi toony698,thanks for the input.It took me a while to get the mix mastered,I tried it out on a few different systems and was happy with it in the end.It depends a lot on personal EQ prefs. etc.Cheers mate
thanks for the kind words toony698 i followed untilspirit's and your advice cant tell what difference it's made with my shitty speakers, holla at me and let me know if you could.
CHEERS - FACADE
It's kinda like one long drum loop. What happened to the synths, bass etc? lol
Don't get me wrong the drums and percussion are cool. But it just sounds like to me this track is in the early stages of development... that's just me though :)
nice piano loop. sick percussion. Still this track needs more like the other two reviewers are saying.
I know you said you didnt go to deep in to this track but i think u should man, this track has got potential. If you do go back to it and re-upload lemme know and I'll give you a proper review
I think you might have gone a little too far with turning down the volume of the vocals... They seem a little drowned out by the main synth. Maybe a couple of dB lower on the main synth and a couple higher on the vocal :) but over all good job!
on THE DISTANCE by Planetjazzbass
I just can't get over my prejudice of northerner's though and was a little distracted by the vocals... sorry slap lol
with love from the south ;D
on lost the moment by quays
on King For Your Area by Russta
on Guit(test 2) by FellowJunky
on Take Me Down With You by 2secondimpression
As to the vocal recording: I say this to all people that do this, so don't be disheartened...
I think that recording identical vocal tracks and then layering them together sounds tacky on their own, especially when played throughout the whole track. I've never been a fan of it...
I would STRONGLY suggest recording:
a) a harmony (one octave up but in a different key)
b) an *almost* "spoken" version of the lyrics
c) a recording in a lower register, (depending on your range at present and octave or two lower)
and then panning these extra bits either left or right in key parts of the track to add depth. (not all the way through the track though)
Don't be afraid to use your chest voice either! this is where the power comes from (all of which can be learned from DL'ing Brett Manning's singing success from btjunkie - but I didn't tell you that ;) )
A simple - but GREAT example is "Hoobastank - the reason" very subtle, but very powerful. Study the vocals in that...
Like you, this chap doesn't use vibrato, but still sounds amazing!
Hope this puts you in the right direction for fulfilling your vocal ambitions :)
If you wanna pick my brains or whatever, email me at ggardiner86@aol.com
Toonz!
on Let A N---- Rock by KidCoszier
Mediocre at best. Again, claiming pro quality? A little over exaggerated I think :)
Like I was saying in the forum,.. I *thought* my stuff was good until I heard what I was up against on here... And I've learned a lot from my looperman fam. Become a little more humble, learn... and grow from the people here and you will go far :)
Toonz
on Back On The Scene by KidCoszier
Most of the elements *are* there for a decent commercial track. Certainly much more so than most tracks I hear on this site...
My initial thought on the vocal quality - not good. I'm thinking it was because of EQ settings teamed up with a poor quality mic, but you say it was due to the mix?
Tracks are supposed to be memorable to the listener because of a powerful hook. If I said to you "still Dre" - the track will probably pop into your head instantly... I don't get that feeling from this... Something to work on in future :)
That being said, you DO have potential... probably one of the better rappers I've heard on this site - but lose the arrogance mate - it doesn't suit you ;)
Toonz
P.S can't wait to hear a GRIME track from you!
on House Party by XxDeMONxX
liking the break,... during the break there was a bit of dodgy filter automation on the keys though.
Over all not bad, not bad,.... this needs a bass line real bad. I'm a sucker for bass.
It could do with being extended as well! :)
I've downloaded it so I can add some stuff and I'll send back to you :D
on Archangel by daith
Good track structure - - over all nice tone to the track, good switch up. VERY nice beat, nice break and build up!
why isn't your other track this good?? :)
I could easily imagine this being played in a club!
I would like to know what VST's you used for this??
Hardware EFFECTS DELAY DP/2 ENSONIC :
VST DUAL FILTER; AND KOMBINATOR;
For the break the stylus effects WITH A SAMPLE.
THANKS
on hossegor by daith
The intro is amazing - the beat is very professional sounding. But this is not enough......
This needs to be extended. It's too short.
It just sounds like one lonnnnnng intro...
There is no real bass line to speak of,... MORE BASS!!
This track needs to be broken down into sections... like intro, chorus, verse, break/build, chorus,verse chorus, break/ big build, chorus, chorus, outro,... or something like that.
this, like i say COULD be a very good track. It just needs moorrrreeee! :)
what program did u use to make this?? If you are interested I would like to work on it with you :)
THANKS!!!! your comments, they're definitly right
I'll work on it PROMISE!!!
see you soon
on How I do This by MrPaulAragon
I can see the idea behind the track is cool, but the bassy melody thing is suffering a bit and so does the track as a result.... I think the harmonics don't agree with each other on that particular sample. I would deffo suggest changing it.
But the track does have the potential to be a cool track, it's just that bassy thing :/
But thanks, I might change it some when I get in the mood :))
on the lower by sergio81
But having said that, when the main theme does kick in, it's really cool :)
I know what you mean about the sound quality problem, I too am having the same trouble on one of my tracks at 128kbps !
But i think you should make a "radio edit" for this track,... and shorten it to maybe 4-5 minutes.
on Get Back by philippic
You definitely got the hook part down to a tee, i'm gonna have this in my head all day now - cheers! lol.
Really good job on the mastering as well,... everything's really clean. But I agree,... no grime track is complete without lyrics. Email some pirate radio stations with this n see what they saying mate!
hopefully this will have lyrics on soon by a fellow Looperman member.
Mr. Payne
But i'll take ur advice on emailin this to online and pirate stations, see what happens to it.
Thanks.
:)
on Toneboy - Everybody in Tha House by Toneboy
I love how clean and pumping the kicks are throughout. I'm a bit of a bass freak and there wasn't enough for my liking (but that's just me) and I also wasn't sure about the phased/flanged hat that's introduced at 30secs, again just me though :)
Especially liked the part of the track at 1:25, really liked the percussion.
All in all great job :)
I agree with you, so I'm working on the bass :)
Soon the track will be 100 % ready for release, maybe I'll change the intro and outtro, NOT THE MAIN LEAD! :D
But thanks for your review :)
on 093 - Humble Narcissist by FACADE
I don't remember if there was so much use of the delay effect last time on the drums or not but it's a bit OTT for my liking.
Now that you've used a limiter you can safely turn the levels up without it going in to the red.
But on another note, I noticed the tempo automation - you've taught me something there. I've been using FL for 7/8 years now and I didnt know you could do that :D
Thanks
FACADE
on LX Leo - Farewell - Original Mix by Leo2789
Glad you enjoyed it =)
on Eklektikos Armilla v3 by Leeora
I maybe would have added some dry brass swells to really define it.
Seriously cool stuff here. I've been playing simcity 4 a lot recently (boredom) and I could totally see this sort of music being a part of that game.
I think you should approach some companies and enquire :)
Btw I enjoyed listening to your song entitled, "Dance Now". I believe i did leave you a review in regards to it...very nice vibe!
feel free to spread the word & i'll do the same
stay productive & thanks again!
- .0 d d b ? l l.
on Disco Never Died by Devodale
I notice that you haven't posted anything for a pretty long time now?? Shame that, you're talented man.
on Reggaeton(Romantiqueo 2) by Angel95
Not bad not bad, class work with the drums like always. The melody is a bit simplistic and repetitive. Maybe think about fattening up the melody by playing chords on one of the instruments like the piano or something as opposed to only single notes... And/Or maybe introduce a second motif to give more feeling and dynamics to the track
An introduction of a bass line would have fattened up the low end of the stereo spectrum as well. The track structure is there. It just needs MORE is all. Other than that, good job man.
on DJ Nicolas CAT - Arabian Streets ( house ) by nickCAT
Definitely original...
Around the 1:20 marker what I was expecting was a big drop into a nice bass line and a pounding beat instead of a break. The percussion break IS nice, but I wouldn't expect to hear that until 3/4's of the way through the track.
I know this is a demo version, but I would expect a house track to be a lot longer than it currently is.
What I hear at the moment is:
- Intro/build
- Verse
- Verse
- Break
- Break/build
- Verse
- Verse/Break
- DJ Nicholas CAT - (nice touch by the way)
This has the potential to be an absolutely brilliant track. But it really really needs a big catchy bass line, so in my opinion, do some rearranging.
- Move the percussion break and save it for later in the track
- Insert in it's a place a chorus with a bass line for like 16
bars
- Roll the arabian string again
- Back into the chorus
- THEN HAVE YOUR BREAKDOWN/BUILD HERE
- Back into the chorus for a final time
- Then your outro
As it stands, what I hear is very good - but it could be brilliant. That's why I've taken the time to give my advice in this long post. It's down to you whether you take it or not. I'm not a professional but I do know a little about track structure...
I would absolutely love to hear this track when it is finished, hopefully with a chorus and a bass line
Hope this helps,
Toonz
on TrainWrek Xpress by untilspirit
It sounds like the levels might be off when that deep kick comes in.
Pretty cool track, not my thing, but pretty cool :)
on 093 - Humble Narcissist by FACADE
And again with the levels, their is a fair amount of distortion. might wanna employ the limiter that comes with FL - cool track though
CHEERS - FACADE
on Respect by Music4Life
It's kinda like one long drum loop. What happened to the synths, bass etc? lol
Don't get me wrong the drums and percussion are cool. But it just sounds like to me this track is in the early stages of development... that's just me though :)
on MUCK ABOUT(MINOR2GO LOOP) by djdreamer
I know you said you didnt go to deep in to this track but i think u should man, this track has got potential. If you do go back to it and re-upload lemme know and I'll give you a proper review
on Just like Candy by famillericoree
I think you might have gone a little too far with turning down the volume of the vocals... They seem a little drowned out by the main synth. Maybe a couple of dB lower on the main synth and a couple higher on the vocal :) but over all good job!