WongKiShoo

Again,.... border-line commercial

Mediocre at best. Again, claiming pro quality? A little over exaggerated I think :)

Like I was saying in the forum,.. I *thought* my stuff was good until I heard what I was up against on here... And I've learned a lot from my looperman fam. Become a little more humble, learn... and grow from the people here and you will go far :)

Toonz

Hmmmmmmm,.... I'm not gonna be as harsh as the other reviewers here, that's for sure lol

Most of the elements *are* there for a decent commercial track. Certainly much more so than most tracks I hear on this site...

My initial thought on the vocal quality - not good. I'm thinking it was because of EQ settings teamed up with a poor quality mic, but you say it was due to the mix?

Tracks are supposed to be memorable to the listener because of a powerful hook. If I said to you "still Dre" - the track will probably pop into your head instantly... I don't get that feeling from this... Something to work on in future :)

That being said, you DO have potential... probably one of the better rappers I've heard on this site - but lose the arrogance mate - it doesn't suit you ;)

Toonz

P.S can't wait to hear a GRIME track from you!

Nice intro :) nice use of hits and FX

liking the break,... during the break there was a bit of dodgy filter automation on the keys though.

Over all not bad, not bad,.... this needs a bass line real bad. I'm a sucker for bass.

It could do with being extended as well! :)

I've downloaded it so I can add some stuff and I'll send back to you :D

Now this is much more like it!

Good track structure - - over all nice tone to the track, good switch up. VERY nice beat, nice break and build up!

why isn't your other track this good?? :)

I could easily imagine this being played in a club!

I would like to know what VST's you used for this??

The track you have here has the POTENTIAL to be very good - but this is no where near a finished track.

The intro is amazing - the beat is very professional sounding. But this is not enough......

This needs to be extended. It's too short.

It just sounds like one lonnnnnng intro...

There is no real bass line to speak of,... MORE BASS!!

This track needs to be broken down into sections... like intro, chorus, verse, break/build, chorus,verse chorus, break/ big build, chorus, chorus, outro,... or something like that.

this, like i say COULD be a very good track. It just needs moorrrreeee! :)

what program did u use to make this?? If you are interested I would like to work on it with you :)

Ummmm,....

I can see the idea behind the track is cool, but the bassy melody thing is suffering a bit and so does the track as a result.... I think the harmonics don't agree with each other on that particular sample. I would deffo suggest changing it.

But the track does have the potential to be a cool track, it's just that bassy thing :/

ok so,... 8 minutes that is a really really long track. It took so long to actually get to the main part of the track that I think most people would lose interest long before that.

But having said that, when the main theme does kick in, it's really cool :)

I know what you mean about the sound quality problem, I too am having the same trouble on one of my tracks at 128kbps !

But i think you should make a "radio edit" for this track,... and shorten it to maybe 4-5 minutes.

This is a really well produced track :)

I love how clean and pumping the kicks are throughout. I'm a bit of a bass freak and there wasn't enough for my liking (but that's just me) and I also wasn't sure about the phased/flanged hat that's introduced at 30secs, again just me though :)

Especially liked the part of the track at 1:25, really liked the percussion.

All in all great job :)

Ha,you've gone the other way and now it's too quiet lol!

I don't remember if there was so much use of the delay effect last time on the drums or not but it's a bit OTT for my liking.

Now that you've used a limiter you can safely turn the levels up without it going in to the red.

But on another note, I noticed the tempo automation - you've taught me something there. I've been using FL for 7/8 years now and I didnt know you could do that :D

Hey I really really like this track... I was just browsing the internet whilst listening to it and I didn't realise how long it was until it was finished. 7 minutes is pretty epic :) I know you say you can't afford a new DAW, but with stuff like this do you need one?? Great work :D

I love how chilled this is,... I love the smooth, rolling ambiance.
I maybe would have added some dry brass swells to really define it.

Seriously cool stuff here. I've been playing simcity 4 a lot recently (boredom) and I could totally see this sort of music being a part of that game.

I think you should approach some companies and enquire :)

Seriously good stuff here :)

I notice that you haven't posted anything for a pretty long time now?? Shame that, you're talented man.

Hey again :)

Not bad not bad, class work with the drums like always. The melody is a bit simplistic and repetitive. Maybe think about fattening up the melody by playing chords on one of the instruments like the piano or something as opposed to only single notes... And/Or maybe introduce a second motif to give more feeling and dynamics to the track

An introduction of a bass line would have fattened up the low end of the stereo spectrum as well. The track structure is there. It just needs MORE is all. Other than that, good job man.

I have to say this is the best I've heard today so far :)

Definitely original...

Around the 1:20 marker what I was expecting was a big drop into a nice bass line and a pounding beat instead of a break. The percussion break IS nice, but I wouldn't expect to hear that until 3/4's of the way through the track.

I know this is a demo version, but I would expect a house track to be a lot longer than it currently is.

What I hear at the moment is:

- Intro/build
- Verse
- Verse
- Break
- Break/build
- Verse
- Verse/Break
- DJ Nicholas CAT - (nice touch by the way)

This has the potential to be an absolutely brilliant track. But it really really needs a big catchy bass line, so in my opinion, do some rearranging.

- Move the percussion break and save it for later in the track
- Insert in it's a place a chorus with a bass line for like 16
bars
- Roll the arabian string again
- Back into the chorus
- THEN HAVE YOUR BREAKDOWN/BUILD HERE
- Back into the chorus for a final time
- Then your outro

As it stands, what I hear is very good - but it could be brilliant. That's why I've taken the time to give my advice in this long post. It's down to you whether you take it or not. I'm not a professional but I do know a little about track structure...

I would absolutely love to hear this track when it is finished, hopefully with a chorus and a bass line

Hope this helps,

Toonz

I don't think I'd class this as dance, I guess I don't really know what genre to put this in either.

It sounds like the levels might be off when that deep kick comes in.

Pretty cool track, not my thing, but pretty cool :)

Um,

It's kinda like one long drum loop. What happened to the synths, bass etc? lol

Don't get me wrong the drums and percussion are cool. But it just sounds like to me this track is in the early stages of development... that's just me though :)

nice piano loop. sick percussion. Still this track needs more like the other two reviewers are saying.

I know you said you didnt go to deep in to this track but i think u should man, this track has got potential. If you do go back to it and re-upload lemme know and I'll give you a proper review

Hey I like it! :)

I think you might have gone a little too far with turning down the volume of the vocals... They seem a little drowned out by the main synth. Maybe a couple of dB lower on the main synth and a couple higher on the vocal :) but over all good job!

love it,... chris brown step aside.

This is the first EVER glitch track I have ever heard in my life...

I have to say it's kinda weird, yet likable in a deranged, filthy way.

There's a lot that went into this I can see that. Must have taken some doing...

I *think* you done a good job, I have no base for reference sooo... lol

Ok,... So you might not like me much after this but the aim of this review is for you to hopefully take something away from this and improve.

From the start - The vocals do not seem to mesh well with either the beat or the plunky melody. They almost seem like they were forced together, which is never a good thing.

The main melody is nice, but there is a definite "gap" between the two phrases which tells me these are probably looped samples you put in right?? It's a nice idea, but it's a better idea to use your own loops as these have a FAR greater ability to blend with the song. If you aren't that experienced making melodies just experiment. Practice makes perfect after all :D

There also seems to be a notable lack of a solid bass line, which no track is complete without.

around 1:32 when the vocal kicks in again, not sure if it was an upload issue, but again a very apparent glitch. you can hear it for yourself :)

If I were you, I would completely ditch the vocals and any pre-made loops and concentrate more on track structure. I would suggest listening to some of your favourite tracks, look to see how they are set out.

A Classic Example of song structure is below:
intro (4 bars),
verse 1 (8 bars),
chorus (8 bars),
verse 2 (8 bars),
chorus (8 bars),
bridge (8 bars),
chorus (8 bars),
outro (8 bars).

Maybe try to build your next track to those guidelines above and listen carefully to your favourite tracks and try to "copy" them so to speak.

I really do hope this helps,... But if you want any more advice, feel free to ask :)

Sorry for the harsh review

Toonz